No More "Bait Cars"
Almost immediately after Kim Foxxx dropped all charges against the burglars who cut open truck trailer seals in order to unlawfully loot whatever was within, Norfolk Southern acquiesced to the criminal class and agreed to allow their trains to be looted with impunity:
- The Norfolk Southern Railway apologized on Friday for its controversial "bait truck" operation in Chicago's Englewood neighborhood and said it wouldn't use the tactic again.
In a letter in response to a Tribune editorial, Herbert Smith of Norfolk Southern acknowledged that the undercover operation “eroded trust between law enforcement and the community.”
“We sincerely regret that our actions caused further unease, and we don’t plan to use this method in the future,” wrote Smith, the railroad’s manager of community and legislative relations in Illinois, Iowa and Michigan.
The joint investigation with Chicago police — dubbed "Operation Trailer Trap" — used a truck loaded with goods that was left parked near 59th Place and Princeton Avenue in Englewood as a lure for potential thieves.
The probe, however, came under fire from the American Civil Liberties Union of Illinois and others after video footage of the operation went viral.
Reverse Stings are completely legal and accepted police tactics. If you don't cut open a trailer seal and unlawfully enter and remain within while intending to commit a theft, YOU CAN'T BE CHARGED! It's like an actual law. Imagine that - obey the law and nothing happens.
But now, newly emboldened burglars can cut open train cars and parked trucks and loot with the knowledge that whatever they break into isn't being watched by cops. And the cost to everyone else can be calculated in million of dollars. And you can thank Kim Foxxx and the ACLU for starters.
But now, newly emboldened burglars can cut open train cars and parked trucks and loot with the knowledge that whatever they break into isn't being watched by cops. And the cost to everyone else can be calculated in million of dollars. And you can thank Kim Foxxx and the ACLU for starters.
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The department was talking about resurrecting the bait car program, the uproar over the bait truck will probably put an end to that idea.
Go ahead and rob, loot and pillage! No one will be watching you people (folks) who like free shit.
We have totally caved to PC and continue to pay the price!
Bait trailer is much more news worthy than 74 people were shot, 12 fatally.
Idiots!!!
Kim Foxxx needs to go AND many crimes like carjackings need REAL penalties.
Over a century ago, horse thieves were hung. If we had a couple of public hangings of car thieves, that would eradicate that crime forever.
Too draconian?? Sorry, I don't think so.
And the cost of doing business in Chicagoland continues to increase.
ALL bait - bait cars, rat bait, fishing bait, bait shops, click bait, etc
All bait is Racist and should be removed from our society!
No more bait!!!
Wish I didnt have to follow laws. Keep enabling these people until no civilized behavior is required. What the hell kind of bizzarro world are law abiding people forced o live in now ? This is fucking ridiculous.are there consequences for any crimes the community does anymore or is it just free reign ?
Good move Kimmie, letting the thieves go!
The way things are going, I predict a free for all in Chicago this weekend based on the message sent by Kimmie. STEALIN IS OK FOR PEOPLE AND FOLKS!!!!
Last week the aaawipe mayor and the puppet in a police uniform sent their tough on crime message and how many were shot and how many killed? Oh yeah BLM, just can't figure out to who?
Said it before and saying it again,
EVERYONE THAT CAN NEEDS TO GET CCW AND THE SHIT WILL STOP REAL QUICK!
The person who wrote the article on behalf of the railroad isn't exactly connected to the railroad police. Think of him as sort of a CAPS community BS spot. The police department isn't going away. The arrests aren't going away. If the bait trailer is put on hold for a few years, it'll have a negligible result on arrests and activity. The statement is from a guy who handles "why is the train stopped and blocking my road" complaints, and not a police spokesman.
What is a bigger issue is the states attorney's continuing refusal to prosecute solid cases based on her activist agenda. There have been a few times we've tried to move forward with burglary cases with video evidence and been said "no." I can understand dropping shaky cases with out strong evidence. Not gift wrapped convictions. Until the sheriff, states attorney's, and judges are replaced the criminals will own Chicago.
So why exactly were charges dropped? It wasn’t entrapment because the rail cars weren’t left open, nor was there any obvious expensive good like a pile of 65” 4K Tv’s. It didn’t really force anyone to cut open the rail cars, unlawfully enter and force them to remain within to commit yet another crime. It’s almost like our State’s Attorney is pandering to criminals or something while following a clear and obvious agenda against the police...hmmm
This whole entire operation went against the principles of reamining fetal. I thought we all agreed before that police work is done?
Does no one find it strange the lack of support among CPD brass? Almost like......it proves when ANY negative attention comes down they wont have your back. Learn from it
Related to this topic:
Tonight Laura Ingram had as a guest, United States District Attorney (Eastern District of Philadelphia) William McSwain. He is going after Philadelphia District Attorney Larry Krasner, a Democrat, and the City because of their sanctuary city policy in which an illegal alien, Juan Ramon Vasquez who had been previously deported came back and raped a five year old. Philadelphia like Chicago refuses to cooperate with federal law enforcement.
McSwain's point was what is happening in these cities is that they are creating a certain group of people who are not subject to the laws like everyone else. He said by not enforcing the laws against certain groups of people is un-American. He said in prosecution we should be non political, neutral and non partisan. But what these cities are doing is making law enforcement political.
So why is this story related to "No more bait cars"? You can draw the parallel in that CPD and the Norfork & Southern Railroad ran a joint legitimate sting operation to stop burglaries/thefts and they are criticized by the "community", the politicians, the ACLU and the news media. The spokeman for the railroad apologized for "eroding trust between law enforcement and the community". And the burglary charges were dropped! So what we have here can be compared to the Philadelphia case. We have a certain group of people, "the community" that we are not going to enforce the law against because they are using the race card again and everybody is terrified of them. Why maybe the railroad will pass out some reparations to make good. What's next for this special group of people, the community" what laws will be un-enforceable just because they throw a tantrum? So if a sting like this was conducted in a "non community" town or area of the City the offenders would be arrested and prosecuted and it wouldn't be news. In fact the residents would be grateful. What does Chicago and Philadelphia have in common besides being sanctuary cities? Well they are both teeming with violent crime and teeming with Democrat politicians who will pander to anyone for the vote. Good luck trying to enforce the law in "the community".
Interview available on youtube: Fox News The Ingram Angle Fri 10 Aug 18. Starts at 39.15 minute mark
Stupidest thing I’ve seen in awhile. Don’t steal!
From the writings of the anti priest Michael Pfleger on his twitter and facebook page: "Who in CPD signed off on setting up a BAIT truck in Englewood SMH"
If it isn't yours don't touch it.
at her Faker has taken priest abuse to a whole new level. He is fucking the whole CPD and city of Chicago. What a POS. Are you still putting money in the collection plate? Hope your not that stupid.
Just keep appeasing the thugs and keep apologizing to them for trying to enforce the law.
Now, kimmeeeeee, the aclu, the rev-rearends, and community mis-leaders might consider UPS leaving unattended packages on front porches to be "entrapment" because some feeble-minded doofuss might take it because "it's there".
Railroads will henceforth be required to post the contents of the trailer on its side.
Any carrying guns or liquor should be labeled as such, in 3' high in day glow orange.
And everyone is catering to these criminals. I won't feel sorry for the railroad company when all their stuff gets stolen. I cannot believe the decay in society in such a short amount of time.
From the writings of the anti priest Michael Pfleger on his twitter and facebook page: "Who in CPD signed off on setting up a BAIT truck in Englewood SMH"
Uhh, whatever happened to "Thou shall Not steal"?
Just asking Father
Lars Pilsen
HEY that would free up a whole UNIT!
THE Narcotics unit you know the guys with beards, bad ink and baseball caps.
The pretend to buy dope and trick drug dealers into crime.
Is special ED disbanding them to not trick black FOLKS into crime?
The trains system is a trillion dollar industry once the decide to hire more security to protect railyards then i will worry.
Kinda like the store in 001/018 lots of shoplifter but little in the way of actual security gaurds grabbing thieves.
IF many of you have not figured out KIMMY FOX the state attorney is destroying the whole criminal justice system from the inside.
Tell me what happens if you let offenders go with a signed complaint and video evidence? You see those cream of the crop FELONY REVIEW attorneys call an unknown supervisor for the most basic cases. YOU did not notice the walk away from you to talk to this unknown supervisor? Do you ever hear that supervisor name mentioned or documented on any reports?
BUT if you have worked any case where a police officers in question look out!!!
charges like official misconduct come out of the closet and high bond amounts.
I just wanted to say what is the problem with this "BAIT TRUCK" ??? We now have to listen to the criminals on how and what we use to catch them?? Are you FUKIN kidding me!!! I have been on this job for 24 years and we have used all types of schemes to catch these A-holes. We are bending backwards for all these fake preachers and these aldercreatures, just let us do our job!! I know those days are long gone but still. Unreal!
This makes sense. Most law abiding, honest people are leaving the city and county. The Democratic politicians don’t care what happens to Chicago and Cook County as long as they get re-elected. They’re sending a message. Their voting blocs are untouchable. They can steal, make, and kill with no repercussions now. If you’re a victim, you have no recourse.
when you walk down the street don't have a phone or wallet, cause you will be bait?
open season has been declared
Ahem! Ask Martin Nesbitt, Obama's buddy, about this because Nesbitt was appointed to the Norfolk Southern board a couple of years ago during Obummer's reign. Not that Nesbitt knows anything about railroads but, hey, maybe he can make a useful contribution now - to which side?
He needs to earn his board compensation with his special "Chicago" skills.
Nationwide Insurance Co. has agreed to donate a bait car to Forest Park, as a way to combat carjackings and thefts
From The Forest Park (IL) review, 6/5/18
Oops, I guees they better return this car as well
So the railroad caved immediately, well it’s time to stop responding and expending resources to them. Let their police handle all the in-progress burglary calls of railcars.
just one more thread was pulled from the fabric of civilized society.
so sad to see this kind of crime was green lighted.
one more victory for the ACLU/SJW crowd.
the media does not see this as a problem?
guns are also shipped thru these rail yards----- nothing like several hundred semi automatic handguns available to our oppressed "victims" living in these economically depressed neighborhoods....
Hey, Tell your "Folks and Peoples" to don't take what is NOT theirs!
They will then NOT have a problem with Police or going to Jail!
Freaking Dummies!
The mopes that got released by Kimmie Foxx, will be a shot dead victim very soon, we can only hope!
Make everything that is illegal, legal. No more crime. We can save billions by eliminating the police, prosecutors and the courts and jails.
and who will scream the loudestd when guns and ammo get stolen?
Did anyone check the arrestee's criminal rap sheet to see if he was convicted of any similar crimes? How about any crime at all? Who is this criminal that he should get special treatment by not being prosecuted despite overwealming video and visual evidence by law enforcement?
Does no one find it strange the lack of support among CPD brass? Almost like......it proves when ANY negative attention comes down they wont have your back. Learn from it
8/11/2018 02:34:00 AM
Yes, an accepted and legal police practice of using " bait" is now dead in the City of Chicago and the state's attorney has dropped all charges " in the interest of justice". And,not a word from the police brass or the mayor in defense of the working cops of this city. The ACLU and Father faker has just called you racists, again, targeting poor innocent black people. If you, the working cops of this city, have not yet gotten the message that no one on the administration has your back, then God help you.
Did anyone check the arrestee's criminal rap sheet to see if he was convicted of any similar crimes? How about any crime at all? Who is this criminal that he should get special treatment by not being prosecuted despite overwealming video and visual evidence by law enforcement?
That crazy concept of following the law. You're right this is outrageous. Outrageous that cpd is even trying still. Trailer was sealed, locked up. But that is the culture of this city. Bunch of simple jacks.
Hey phalgher you should be preaching thou shall not steal. We know you have given up thou shall not kill........
How many people went past this unmarked trailer and never though of breaking into it before this goof cut the security band entered and took a box of shoes? How is this illegal? Unethical? The criminal makes a decision before he acts and like it was said before. "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time". Real simple isn't it?
Double standard???
I can’t stand when the few dirty coppers make the good guys look bad but what about when the G sets up police officers with BAIT money on a search warrant etc?
I have no sympathy whatsoever for the dirty coppers but that is celebrated by the media, the G and the pfony revs, but God forbid you put a bait truck in the ghetto.
This city is upside down.
And who complained??? Some guy on a "viral" video. The offender admitted to the burglary! He said he wanted to steal food. Still illegal last I checked. So if some one beefs on a video, Kim Fox will drop the case?
Ebert Smith you should be ashamed of yourself. You are just another enabler. Hope the decimate your freight yards.
The pandering is nauseating.
Will somebody please post a list of crimes that Blacks can’t be charged with?
Hey Smith, if you think your unjust apology will keep them out you are out of your everloving mind. They understand power and weakness, and you just showedthem how weak you are. Look out big trouble is headed your way. Better get tough or walk away because they will own you.
Based upon this logic, any dirty cop who was caught up in an FBI sting of ripping off drug dealers should be freed.
Why bother showing up to work anymore? I’m so done with this job!
Good news is the patrol unit should be getting a lot more officers assigned to them since the narcotics unit is basically set up as an intire “bait” operations unit.
Money speaks volumes. Apparently the railroad has more than enough to afford to have goods stolen from their care. Lets see if the companies who's products that are being stolen feel he same way. Ah, who are we kidding. The cost will just be passed along to those of us who still pay for our stuff.
This storefront church attitude that it's ok to collect welfare your entire life, sell dope, steal, rape, have 6 kids by the time your 30, and murder whomever because they looked at you or had something you wanted is ok just as long as you're really sorry is absurd.
Ended trust between law enforcement and the community?! You mean the felons now comprise a community? Give me a break. Any community that doesn't work to enforce the law isn't a community worth living in. It's not a race problem but a cultural one at that point.
The division of our country has begun. I will be moving to a more "Friendly" location soon. Once others with $$ follow its all over for Crook County and the late, great, State of Illinois.
Well now, I guess the railroad can't complain when the train cars get broken into yard now can they?i
The beginning of the ultimate end of the middle class in Chicongo. Downtown and financial business is safe for now , but with this nonsense goods can not be moved thru the city with out incredible “shrinkage “ Problem. So now the railroads and the trucking Co’s Will be fair game and open season . Which means the will start to reroute and exit . Thanks ACLU and thanks Kim and Tom
That truck was just asking for it.
OK the world has turned upside down. When you walk down the street in Chicago and when you are attacked, it is your fault for being so stupid. You thought you could walk down a street in Chicago safely? When somebody steals your car, well moron why did you bring a car to Chicago. When your house is broken into, well your house looked like it might have nice stuff inside so what did you expect. The new criminals are the people who want to be safe in their person and property. Any steps to protect yourself is now a criminal act.
A bait truck is just a truck. No different than a thousand other trucks except that it has people watching over it. The truck is not doing anything criminal. Watching a parked truck is not a crime, except in Chicago.
The politicians in Chicago are corrupt and dangerous but at least they turnout the gang vote.
They will never take responsiblity for their actions. Blame everybody else
From the writings of the anti priest Michael Pfleger on his twitter and facebook page: "Who in CPD signed off on setting up a BAIT truck in Englewood SMH"
Perhaps fr. FLAKER should read the 10 Commandments to his flock.
Especially the ones " Thou shall not kill" and "Thou shall not steal."
Apparently he has no problem with either.
Still trying to be the Big City Police?
Having fun yet?
How many entities will be held responsible and sending pre-election settlement checks?
Cook County States Activist KimmFxxxup is sending all those boys a referral.
“Oh give me a a home,
where the feral can roam...”
It is time to take the city back. If
the police are the problem why are they putting more on the streets costing millions of dollars in overtime?
To answer Father Pfleger who in the archdiocese signs off on your antics? Wife of a Chicago police officer.
Sweet! Looks like my Christmas shopping bills will be slashed in half since Santa is coming by train this year. Thank you NorFOLK Southern for making all our dreams come true.
So. following this logic, any person arrested for
soliciting an undercover, should have their record erased and any fine refunded?
Criminals are one of the biggest Democrat constituencies. They must be served, assisted and accommodated by the political structure and portrayed as oppressed victims by the media.
Handcuffs on the police only reduces the level of safety and security for the law-abiding and tax paying citizens. The silent majority needs to speak out and take action.
Well these poor under privileged people need to steal to make ends meet and why not go into the rail yards to do it. I used to drive trucks part time and was up in those rail yards and saw theft as a daily occurrence. Poor dude just steals and the alderman then says it is entrapment.well mr. Sawyer, I was taught that if it's not yours dont touch it. But I guess this is just a cultural thing. Alderman does that mean its OK for politicians to take bribes too. Poor poor people.
Woman apolagizes to carjacker's for having a car that they want but can't afford.
Stealing ..... what is it that people don’t understand that you don’t take property that isn’t yours. What a bunch of idiots we have running the show. Pathetic and embarrassing. Just keep on enabling the criminals here in Cook County, you go to any other part of the state and they don’t succumb to this nonsense.
This city and county has lost its mind. The endless pandering to the most violent and criminal segment of society. The movement to decriminalize black crime continues. The result will be more victims of their savagery. All you white liberals will be feeling and sharing the pain soon, they will be coming to your neighborhood too.
In answer to Father Pflegers question we want to know who in the archdiocese signs off on your antics?
Where can I get some dam bait!
With these shitheads in charge of crook county it’s all but fucking over with! You can’t enforce the laws anymore, the N & S Railroad apologizing to the ghetto fucking savages that are ripping them off on a daily basis . This shit is unfucking believable, Detroit here we fucking come! Stay Fetal,Stand Down,and by all means Stay Safe out there Boys, and Girls.
Well you didn't expect it to get burglarized parked in Hinsdale,....did ya??!!
Stores best hide their merchandise..remove from shelves...
So very tempting and racist.
It's okay to steal now? Thou Stalt not steal...words not uttered by father faker.
I learned it early in life the election must be won. At all costs. Any cost.
Does this mean the POS in the ghetto can no longer master-bait! ROTFLMAO
In 2018 policing, it’s just a property crime. Call 311 and make a report for insurance purposes. Give them the police response they desire.
This confirms to me that Toni Preckwinkle and her hand picked Prosecutor, Kimisha are in fact the heads of the criminal elements in Illinois. They are responsible for the killings and the drug dealing and yes, even the box car robberies. People need to wake up and realize the Democrats in Crook County are the cause of all of the pain an suffering in the minority communities. Hold them accountable and confront them wherever you see them.
We live in a society where it's not the thieves fault. The thief is now the victim
I swear I thought I had seen it all....now we apologize to criminals for their behavior? Listen, I teach my kids if it isn’t yours don’t touch it. And btw everyone up in arms saying that it was”entrapment” needs to look up the definition. You can clearly see on video, the one criminal cut open the seal, enter the trailer and remove boxes. But the community feels it’s a set up. Unfucking believeable.
If such than all the coppers should stop making any kind of arrests unless on signed complaints due to the community and the strained relationship with the police as it seems this is their go to phrase. What a joke this has become.
If offenders were white that wouldn’t even hit the news.
Talk about bait, they used to put drop dead gorgeous girls in the prostitution unit to walk the stroll with all parts hanging out, cars were making u turns crashing into each other, very effective
Hey Fr. Flaker....ever hear this one? Something along the lines of "thou shall not steal" ???
The City of Chicago has gotten out of the business of Law Enforcement. They can't expressly stated that but if you are unable to read the signs and instead try your hand at probative enforcement of the law, you are rolling the legal dice.
Apologizing for doing police work.....sigh.
But, I agree. Don't do any police work. Just sit back, relax and watch the show.
Rumor on the skreet is that the Keesing Bandit excelled at the application of Bait Cars while cutting his teeth in the Boys Town implementation of same.
The Northside limp-wristed thieves quickly learned the legend and lore of the Master Baiter.
Then why even have laws it all? if that’s the case why are you even sending policeman in to enforce laws in that community if they don’t want it’s time to wall off like ThunderDome and let them have their way. Just imagine the amount of money you’ll save by not having us patrol those areas
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From the writings of the anti priest Michael Pfleger on his twitter and facebook page: "Who in CPD signed off on setting up a BAIT truck in Englewood SMH"
8/11/2018 03:27:00 AM
Perhaps he would remind his flock about one of the ten commandments ...thou shalt not steal...
And a big fuck you to norfolk southern, the latest in a long, and continuing line of spineless people, organizations, pols, and businesses to cave and sell out CPD, and LE.
The white shirt who authorized that mission was known to be a master baiter.
Would you expect anything less from Gimmie Foxx ?
Never a better time in all of human history to be a member of the 'community'
that doesn't have to play by life's rules. Oh how they must laugh at the new lowes that so many groups, media, Black leaders,elected officials,ACLU, liberals and scared corporations will go to protect them from being offended.
Welcome to Chicago, the safe city for illegals and criminals.
And the morons can't understand why there is so many shootings.
Thievery is legal. Killing and maiming goes unpunished. Every decent person in this city should go out heavy when they leave the house. If they want to make you a victim deny them the same mercy that they would deny you. The politicians are ready to let you die in the street. Fight back.
"Every decent person in this city should go out heavy when they leave the house." A law abiding citizen can't even carry a three inch blade or pepper spray for self defense. Call 911 after the crime. That's all we have.
bait truck made me steal, dope made me deal, gun made me shoot, white privilege made me...
A lot of blame goes to Fioretti who aided by his felon campaign manager ran a scam campaign against Toni Preckwinkle only intended to raise money and not pay legitimate bills. This is becoming a regular occurrence with the Fioretti campaign. More to come. Stay tuned. Wonder if Operation Push and Jesse, Fioretti’s great friend knows about this? He will soon.
In the "Interest of Justice" stop doing any Police work on South and West sides of the city!
"Now apologize to us for puttin'
that racist bait truck out there
to set us up an' entrap us!
I hope Amazon is paying attention. Understand, you DO NOT have any expectation that civil authorities in Chicago are responsible for protecting your property. People are poor and have a right to steal from businesses. The police cannot utilize acceptable tactics elsewhere in the country and the prosecutors will not charge criminals. You are idiots and deserve losses caused by the community if you invest any business operations in this City.
So, Kim Foxx doesn't like the idea of snagging thieves with bait trucks. Would she prefer to see freight haulers like N & S protect their property with armed guards? Because when shippers can't depend on their products getting from point A to point B (with Chicago smack in the middle of the transit route), they will start demanding solutions. N & S was stupid squared for apologizing; there is no excuse for thievery, and the race-baiters who believe the folk should be exempt from following the law have only themselves to blame for the rest of the culture they helped to create (i.e. 70+ shot over one weekend.)
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