Bias Survey Canceled
Remember that survey we asked about a couple of days ago? FOP stopped it:
- Apparently, the Chicago Police Department has partnered with the Anti-Defamation League for a training class that will be presented to all Chicago Police Officers. This training class will address implicit bias. Initially, in order to participate in this class, Police Officers were required to complete a survey prior to attending the class.
Several members contacted the Lodge inquiring whether they had an obligation to complete the survey. Initially, the Lodge did not have a response as the Department failed to advise us of the existence of both the survey and the training itself.
The Lodge made inquiries to the Department asking what agency compiled the surveys, what agency was going to use the data from the surveys, would the data be saved or destroyed, and who or what agency would have access to the survey data.
While the Lodge is certainly in favor of any training that will enhance our members' policing skills, we are more interested in ensuring that our members rights are protected. We advised the Department of our objections to this survey: There was not any guarantee that your answers would be kept private, there was not any guarantee that your answers would not have a negative personal impact, and there was not any guarantee that your answers would not have a negative impact on either the Department or Lodge as a whole.
The Department took note of our inquiries and objections and has removed the survey.
We can hardly wait to see what liberal bullshit the Department has decided to foist on everyone, and what lib-tard is getting piles of money for this crap.
Labels: department issues, FOP
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
46 Comments:
This job has become such a joke.
Survey Saaaaaaaaays.......
Mind yer own bizness!!!!!!
The big question is that who were the Gold Star
simpletons who approved this Alinskyite
donkey dung of a survey?
"We're gonna PROVE you Cops are biased
if it's the last thing we do!"
These fuckers had the weighted answer grid ready.
This was going to possibly be their big play
to launch as many Coppers as possible.
"We're gonna terminate all those biased Cops."
All kinds of tragic comedy being foisted upon CPD
to promote a bullshit narrative.
Here...
http://www.gocomics.com/buni/2012/06/11
I never accessed the link to complete the survey. Thanks to the FOP for pressuring the Department to remove the survey "requirement."
It is possible that the survey was similar to a nationally-known IAT "bias-screening" test that has been admitted, by the test's very own authors, to have absolutely NO scientific basis whatsoever. (https://nationalpost.com/opinion/barbara-kay-actually-it-turns-out-that-you-may-be-less-racist-than-youve-been-led-to-believe)
I have no problem with the Department providing training that will educate me and make me a better police officer. BUT, if the training, from the get-go, tells us that ALL OF US are inherently biased and racist (which may affect our decision-making, including use-of-force), then I demand that the Department provide scientific studies that prove this assertion. A recent survey of nationwide police shooting incidents and use-of-force indicated that Chicago police officers tend to use force on a level that is LESS than the national average. Thus, we are already doing a GREAT job in the de-escalation that has been emphasized since December 2015.
Every human being develops some level of biases that naturally evolve from life-experience. A professional police officer is aware of these biases, and does not allow these biases to keep them from treating every member of society with dignity, respect, fairness and equal treatment.
It will be interesting to see what is the curriculum of this new training, and how much of it is scientifically-based. If the training has no science to back it up, then an investigation is in order.
So any mayoral candidate want to lift residency ??? My vote is yours !
That "survey" would be essentially a deposition,
and they don't have a court order for that. Shades
of the Soviet Union. Vodka, comrade?
Do you drink, lose your temper, beat your wife,
have you used illegal drugs, gambling problem?
Thanks, but no thanks.
What's in your garage?
Who can we thank for this bs?
Did somebody actually admit that they made a mistake?
Management should be going through classes on how to deal with your employee's. Not one of them ever had solid training on how to be a leader and professional. All we have a merit misfits trying to ACT like a boss. Perhaps all the assholes we have in this DEPT , like the idiots who cheered when Van Dyke was found guilty like 005, OEMC, HQ should go through the racist bias class.
A. Luba Wliiams on facebook is trying to organize a take down of all gofundme campaigns for Jason VanDyke. An evil rotten bitch, pay her a visit on her page.
The arrogance of Elitist Democrats never ceases to Amaze! It seems there is a presumption, that every cop, no matter what his or her education; is in fact a latent or overt Racist! And this Presumption of Racism comes from Wannabe Intellectuals who have been raised and hide in White suburbs for most of their lives! Working Class Chicago cops work and live in the City, with Minorities, and are Minorities. Perceptions that they may have, be they Positive or Negative towards Minorities are based on "Reality", not academic or political agendas. Outsiders driving in from White enclaves to teach us their perceptions, and then scurrying back to their White hiding places after they teach them, is absolute bullshit. This is an extension of the ACLU nonsense. Understand clearly, Chicago cops are well educated and more well integrated racially than most law firms or university faculties. Spend a week of working afternoons in Englewood or Austin in July; then tell us about the Real World. Stay Safe and Strong. Baby "G"
What's this bullshit I hear about trans-gender training?
Good one for fop.
The ADL? These are the people that declared the phrase “it’s ok to be white” as hate speech
I'll be sure to ask lots of questions and make lots of comments during this "training"
Hahaha! Whatever, Stay Fetal
Go in there with actual stats. The “implicit” bias is bullshit! Blacks and Hispanics commit more than 90% of all violent crime in the fucking city! Whites commit lea than 15 homicides in the city a year! Wrap your heads around that. Whites commit Less than 15 murders in this city a year. That’s fucking insane! Chicago wouldn’t be “crime free” but violent and property crime wouldn’t even be a blip on the radar if the adl uses stays of white offenders. Now go listen to this liberal bullshit on how “youre bias for thinking blacks are more likely to fight you or shoot at you.” You know why police think that, assholes.........because it’s factually true! Not only here. But, nataional stats too. Complete fucking bullshit class. The adl is not on the side of police. Neither is the aclu or any other organization disguised under the “civil rights” banner. Those agencies are here to protect criminals and illegals in order to push their anti-American left-wing agenda.
The fourth amendment was never meant to give criminals “protectetion” or to be specifically used against police. It is supposed to be used to keep our legal system just and fair. It has been manipulated and weaponized by left wing organizations and judges. If anyone is interested Look up how the fourth amendment started being used to “protect” criminals. It’s interesting and realize it’s been manipulated since. It was not supposed to be used to “protect” unintelligent criminals.
Example:
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2018/10/11/two-men-accused-filming-raping-9-month-old-girl/
These evil pieces of shit are guilty of the worst fucking crime. They also filmed it, so there is no “reasonable doubt.” A “fair” trial shouldn’t consist of the defense attorney trying to get these evil pieces of shit off. The are fucking guilty!!!! But, the do have the right to be judged by a jury of their peers.
The system is fucked and continues to get worse.
Surveys results are not private.
Unless the results go against what the survey was interested in obtaining.
Only then do they become private and eventually scrapped.
ADL gets a hefty grant and they want to perpetuate the global trend AND they’re big on supporting kneeling hack NFL quarterbacks and high paid pea brained followers.
How many did UC or UIC conduct since 1990?
Never were one of these egghead survey studies released that shown there’s a bias.
Think of the Traffic Study Cards.
It went from just bad drivers, then to race of bad drivers and then to civil rights violations of bad drivers.
Then they eliminated the bad driver element.
Since the mass reachout diversification they’ve managed to tenderize the Academy recruits and only now do they think they have a plurality of softshelled snowflakes and militant minded activists ready to concur with the global consensus that police are inherently bias.
Their new world order police, the newly trained tolerant are willing to go along with what they’re told.
New police are eager to please.
Please don’t fall for this nonsense, ever.
Thirty odd years ago they started this cultural awareness bullshit.
Taking a Dept authorized survey could become another “gotcha” in your permanent file to be held against you.
He/she failed a survey on bias.
They did not meet the standard.
They disingenuous, they cheated, they obstructed.
Hmmmmm.
Why don’t they survey supervisors on legitimacy and fairness of testing, promotions and competence.
Oh, they did...100% believe that there is.
See how it works.
They talk about trust.
How you guys/gals do it these days, God bless you.
Try to find some serenity between the 1st and 16th.
Attorney General Jeff Sessions:
"There is a misperception that police are the problem and that their failures, their lack of training, and their abuses create crime," Sessions said. "But the truth is the police are the solution to crime, and criminals are the problem."
***
Thank you, sir.
Retired, 30+
In Chicago.... one group in overtrained. One untrained group needs mucho training.
I just spent the majority of my tour watching the mandatory transgender e-learning course. Should have been 45 minuets, video would freeze up and start over. I was held down for nearly 3 1/2 hours. Time for lunch...
Meritorious sergeant UB related that officers need to put more skin in the game. What is this guy drinking?
Force mitigation instructors are out of uniform , grooming standards a joke , arrive late , Duck early .
Most could not conduct a legal street stop , conduct a vehicle search or clear a building looking for armed offenders .
Instructors that couldn’t write a case report , ISR , TRR are critiquing reports , instructing Officers to add this , take this out ,blah,blah ,blah
Another words lie , get some qualified officers or civilians that actually did police work to teach the course , not incompetent friends of exempts . Another waste of tax dollar money .
Assign these instructors to Englewood as a team , let them conduct traffic ,street stops ,maybe complete a few SNOV’s ,ISR ,Case ,Arrest Reports , Battery to P.O. IOD reports , they can then pass them out to students for a good laugh of what not to write in a report .
FOP , please look into this .
Off topic , pension board elections
Vote for Police Officers that will protect pension fund from politicians .
Vote for Police Officers that will keep all benefits for Current , Retired , Police Officers on disability and Future Police Officers .
For younger Officers. Years ago one person allowed $23,000,000 debt owed by city to go away for a promise of a better pension plan of 80% . It never happened , Officers lost a 3% longevity pay raise at 30years , which you will never get back for retirement . CPD received 29+ a day at full 75% pension . Younger Officers will never get this because now top pension is 70% at 55 years of age .
Police work is stressful as we all know , all Police Officers should receive the same retirement benefits .
Duty disability is one of the best benefits provided , it is a benefit 99.9% of Police Officers never want to receive .
We also lost subsidized health insurance at retirement.
Not many Police Officers are on duty disabled, but there is that 1 or 2 that take advantage.
Same with our generous medical benefit , most never use a day , others use a year of medical every few years , again a few that will ruin it for Police Officers that need it .
Some have been Forced back to work , but should have been fired .
Never let a few abusers ruin a benefit that can save a persons from bankruptcy.
Pension should be changed so all Police Officers can retire at 50 , FOP needs new leadership , pension board needs Police Officers from all ranks that will protect the fund for future generations.
We never see who approves this nonsense. It seems all the new order are never signed anymore by exempt hacks. They think putting a house mouses name on the bottom of citywide order keep them from taking the blame for F$%k
UPs
Sign your fricking name to the orders and emails
so when we write TO FROM 10 years from now i can blame you in the indictment.
We should survey all merits and see how many have had CR#s that were classified as CONFIDENTIALs.
signed the class commander of 94
You better believe your answers will be brought up if you are in a shooting.
I like illicit bias or complicit bias better. The city of Chicago is the most biased city. Good taxpaying middle class or working class simply do not matter
Why do anything ?
Snuffleupagus is real, sort of.
Implicit bias is some made up nonsense.
Does this mean I don’t have to take gender bs elearning.
The fact that as a Policeman, you encounter the dregs
of society which over time DOES lead to you thinking
about them a certain way, which is the VERY HUMAN THING
TO DO!
Especially when those societal dregs are hyper-violent,
nihilistic lovers of disorder, destruction and death
who loudly disavow any common/shared purpose with the
rest of law abiding society.
That Policemen "Think Funny Thoughts" about the peoples
an' folkses they're compelled to rub up against to keep
the rest of everybody else safe from THEM, is a reasonable,
logical, self-protective/survival oriented, common sensical
thing.
And it drives the perpetual grievant classes of peoples/folkses
and their SJW allies crazy that they have yet to succeed in
crafting criminal and civil law with which to ruin Policemen
if they dare manifest any of these so called "implicit biases."
Consent Decree = Changes in Conditions of Employment
to make it easier to "prove" so called "implicit bias."
Take note that these m/fers are still sore over
Hill-Dawg's loss which means no push to make what's
happening to CPD become nation-wide "Police Reform" policy.
Democrat controlled urban centers first.
Note that much capital is being burned by
the left to "take down" CPD and bust it out.
CPD is viewed as the hardest "Police Reform"
nut to crack because "the Cops in Chicago
are so mean, intolerant, brutal and racist."
Chicago is a rough, tough, mean,
smash-mouth/foot-stomp/eye-slap town.
"...But if only you Cops would be nicer,
more accommodating and not be so fast to
knock people down/take them to jail/shoot them.
Why can't you just slow down and give people a
chance to express their frustrations?"
...Fuckdat.
That's why judges and hearing officers EXIST and
get PAID much more money than Policemen.
Express your frustrations to THEM.
Your redress for your grievance
comes from THEM.
Anonymous said...
Meritorious sergeant UB related that officers need to put more skin in the game. What is this guy drinking?
10/13/2018 11:36:00 AM
What ever it is he is probably allergic to it.
the anti defamation league is an anti American terrorist group
Bunch of greedy bastards aren't we, all we care about is our inflated pensions. When city files bankruptcy they will be 50% of what they are now, if we are lucky.
Wynter Jackson was confronted about the survey when the question was asked by Pat Murray if the survey comes back with a negative result will there be further action taken against an offficer such as a Cr Number . Her response was to look at the other exempt rank officers in the room with her mouth open ? The next day the survey was dropped ! Let’s see its anonymous yet you sign in on your pc # and they have the results and know who u are pointed out Rich Aguilar . Hey I guess the Fop did something !
You better believe your answers will be brought up if you are in a shooting.
Good point.
They said the CR#’s would be destroyed! They lied!
Good news is AG Sessions has filed a court motion to halt the City of Chicago police consent decree.
Working Poleec need to start their own anti defamation club.
Surveys are NOT scientific !!!!!
You nailed it. Social justice is just a cover for shake downs. From global warming to implicit bias to diversity training someone is making money a lot of money.
I didn't hear the Anti-Defamation league speak up when Darren Wilson was being defamed for shooting Michael Brown
fuck you Anti-defamation league
Anonymous Anonymous said...
A. Luba Wliiams on facebook is trying to organize a take down of all gofundme campaigns for Jason VanDyke. An evil rotten bitch, pay her a visit on her page.
10/13/2018 07:34:00
These types are all over the social media, they live on facebook and twitter. Most on the dole, single, and have a bunch of kids they don't care for properly. Green has been whining about that too. As will all the other do-nothing, thug rats and other crying adolescent-children. And I'm sure the fake clergy will also be ranting, anything for a photo-op. Pity they aren't as upset about what people do in their own communities everyday. Green was recently saying he was paying for some of the funerals in the hood. This shithead has no money. How about someone looking into what he did with the money from his crowdfunding scam? Did anyone read the opinion piece by Kelly in the Washington Times, about Rahm and the city? https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/sep/13/what-will-chicago-do-without-rahm/
Given that it's to benefit his kids, who had nothing to do with any of it, I don't see how it could be removed. It was started by a lawyer, she surely anticipated these ever aggrieved mutts would complain and would have likely read up on the rules prior to posting. There are other such sites as well, so if it would be removed, there are other places that do the same thing. For average people from all over the country that want to support the family these sites are the easiest way. In this case it's all legit, but look at the couple that stole the 400k raised for the homeless veteran guy. Ya, he needed help, but 400k? And he wasn't a disabled vet either. And animal rescues and little shelters doing self-less work to help animals are likely to get next to nothing on average on these sites. Unless the media picks it up for some reason.
I still ALL police officers should sue the city for breach of contract for not destroying the CR#s according to the contract. If they did not follow this part of the contract, how man other parts did they violate. FOP needs to get a lawsuit and put punitive measures in the contract against the city for any future violations.
the anti defamation league is an anti American terrorist group
10/13/2018 06:39:00 PM
A long and we'll documented history of spying on American cities as well as harassment. They've also been caught in possession of stolen confidential police department files from multiple different police agencies. These scumbags are now setting policy of law enforcement. A real joke.
Meritorious sergeant UB related that officers need to put more skin in the game. What is this guy drinking?
Who gives a fuck what this Idiot merit wants...let him go fuck himself! You can bet he NEVER did any police work while he was a blue shirt.
Survey's are NOT scientific !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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