How Can This Be?
- Overtime spending in the Chicago Police Department is rising again after a 30 percent drop in first-quarter spending driven by tighter controls aimed at holding supervisors accountable.
From January through April, Chicago police officers were paid $29.7 million in overtime, down from $42.1 million during the same period a year ago.
But the trend was short-lived, according to records released in response to a Freedom of Information request filed by the Chicago Sun-Times.
They show that police overtime for the four-month period ending in August was $50.9 million, a 71 percent increase from first-quarter spending.
In May, an additional $7.1 million was spent. That includes the 1,000 moonlighting officers assigned to keep a lid on violence over Memorial Day.
So why isn't all the hiring alleviating the manpower shortages that seem to be driving OT costs? Could it be that the new officers are merely papering over a Department that is so top-heavy and so bureaucracy-heavy with hidden spots that OT is the only way to man the cars?
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
56 Comments:
Last time I checked we don’t need to punch in or out per our union contract.
The. Don’t cancel that dept members days off for 3 holiday weekends from Thursday-Monday. I would rather be with my family then riding the beat.
Hire more Officers we need 13000 actually on the streets!
They got what they wanted. Crime is out of control.
O.T. - I just watched the PBS show "Frontline". This week's segment is named, "The Pension Gamble". It focuses on looming issues concerning Kentucky's public-sector pensions. The show only touched the surface concerning public-sector pension issues, but the program does help to provide a foundation so members are educated consumers to ask questions. Votes in the election for Chicago Police Pension Representative - D1, D2 and D2A will be counted on Oct. 25, 2018. "An educated consumer is an organization's best customer."
The democrats consider Animal Farm as an instuctional manual.
You got that right. The gels want to score now,
not in 20 years. Plus their high maintenance life
style just eats cash. Ever see a gel book his next cut
before he leaves the Barber Shop? Sometimes two or
three cuts (in 2 to 3 week intervals). Sickening.
Let’s talk about 005
Merit cop killer
Merit special needs shooter
Merit CAPS detective
Selling accident reports
Applauding JVD’s conviction
Now a DIO making 50k in OT as a patrolmen...since what period? It’s all on the up and up...pretty Unnoble....
A quarter is 3 months, not 4.
Moonlighting is when someone other than your employer pays you.
WTF?
This is a circular argument and primarily applies to shit departments
When will the overtime scammers on this job finally becbrought to justice.
Funny, hold the police "accountable" for the failing of the Democrat government and Democrat controlled Circuit County Court network. As a citizen reader the cries of hire more police do not move me. I don't mind more police on the street and in the ranks but the problem and answer to street crime is not the police. It is the government and court system that are failing to administer swift justice and punishment to criminals rather than affordable bond and time served and supervision and right on down the line. The problem: which of the announced candidates for Mayor will solve the problems? Answer: NONE.
spending driven by tighter controls aimed at holding supervisors accountable.
Hey Sarg, pull my finger !
Anonymous said...
You got that right. The gels want to score now,
not in 20 years. Plus their high maintenance life
style just eats cash. Ever see a gel book his next cut
before he leaves the Barber Shop? Sometimes two or
three cuts (in 2 to 3 week intervals). Sickening.
10/24/2018 02:03:00 AM
I recently retired 2 young coppers were telling me how hard they work constantly I asked them if this was their first job they said “right out of college,” they have zero idea of what the real world world is and what working hard means. Many young coppers with the college degree which I the new high schools diploma with the “marketing” degree would be lucky to make 40K a year for many hours and actually work harder. Funny listening to the “f this job I’m leaving” morons then years later they are still here. The reality is you will never make that kind of money you make here unless your connected to someone. Oh and the residency dream will never happen now put those Batman pajamas on young ones, put more punishers stickers on your lifted wrangler, get some more tattoos and skinny jeans, tell the girls at the bar “I’m smart and people like me,” and please for your own good stfu!
Civilian here - A year ago I sat in a meeting at the Town Hall police station with 30 others and Ald Tunney. Police Superintendent Johnson told us that he would be ADDING 40 police officers to the 19th district by Summer (of 2018). He apparently used the new math, because the Alderman’s office says we now have less officers than a year ago. I understand that officers get transferred, promoted, retire, why doesn’t the police department take that into account? If the city hired 1,000 additional officers, where are they? All on the Southside?
Summer months always drive up ot. Let's see what it looks like from August on.
Check the money box.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You got that right. The gels want to score now,
not in 20 years. Plus their high maintenance life
style just eats cash. Ever see a gel book his next cut
before he leaves the Barber Shop? Sometimes two or
three cuts (in 2 to 3 week intervals). Sickening.
10/24/2018 02:03:00 AM
Stop hating on those who have hair ! Perfect example of hair envy. I suggest u work some OT and get yourself hair plugs. Maybe that will keep u from being a douche bag.
So why isn't all the hiring alleviating the manpower shortages that seem to be driving OT costs? Could it be that the new officers are merely papering over a Department that is so top-heavy and so bureaucracy-heavy with hidden spots that OT is the only way to man the cars?
You hit the nail on the head SCC.
Sadly it never seems to change.... in fact there only seems to be increases in “bosses” and “hidden special people”.
Must be the worthless Detention Aides earning over time.
I’m sorry but didn’t they change us to 12 hour days, RDO cancelled for the JVD trial? Didn’t the bosses cancel days for Memorial Day and Labor Day? Don’t get me wrong, I’ll take the extra money all the time, but the fact they want to bitch and moan about the OT is laughable. Stop putting out orders cancelling days of then. CPD brass is one big joke. Left hand never knows what the right is doing. Idiots
Sheesh be quiet, just bought my new Jeep Wrangler, putting the decals on it now, made appointment at tattoo shop for cool tattoos so I can tell the young girls at the "club" about how fantastic I am and the best police officer ever> Please don't tell anyone this is my first job,and I work really,really hard mom and dad who live in the lily white North shore (Near rahms house where he was raised we are uber rich like him).
At roll call I had my new Iphone 12 (I know its not out yet but I have it dad gave it to me), oh did I tell you I gots my degree from HRU Harold Washington University, don't be a hatr, I be the "real police!"
how about that one merit tactical lieutenant from 6 , now commander that made $150,000 in overtime ? No investigation of theft , double dipping .
IAD , AG , PBPA maybe some of that OT should have been offered to senior lieutenants ?
Pension should be based on last rank earned , not given .
No pensions for any rank over Lieutenant , only exempt pension should be superintendent . Superintendent pension should be based on last 12 years of salary and if any ranks were Merit , based on last earned Rank , special ed would retire as a P.O , so would Hillard .
Sgt D.S., the admin Sergeant in 007 highly contributed to the overtime going up. How can an admin sergeant consistiantly have over 100 hours of overtime??
Work OT don't do anything get paid
DIO from 005 making mega bucks for bs information casper the friendly ghost what a joke.
Guess rahm can say this when he has about 30 bodyguards costing millions to CPD along with a fleet of CPD vehicles covering his entire family what did rahm say:
Rahm Emanuel Says Trump “Exaggerates” Chicago’s Crime
http://www.con-alerts.com/rahm-emanuel-says-trump-exaggerates-chicagos-crime/
Ahh mayor how about asking shooting victims,families of dead you know murdered people/folks, how about the massive amount of carjacking victims? But then again being raised in rich areas and having constant protection you would have Zero clue right?
Not hard to believe. 003 offers extension of tour,and the ability to work your rdo almost everyday
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hire more Officers we need 13000 actually on the streets!
10/24/2018 12:32:00 AM
City can’t afford to hire an additional 2,000 officers to get an additional 1,000 on the streets. Plus the offices are almost full Would have to build a new headquarters and district stations
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Last time I checked we don’t need to punch in or out per our union contract.
10/24/2018 12:30:00 AM
Can you possibly post the section and wording of the contract that indicates that we do not have to "punch" or "swipe" in or out. I would like to be more enlightened on our contract. I couldn't find the section you are referring to. Thank you.
if you guys are looking for reinforcements, forget it.
fuckstick rahm blew all the cash on bullshit.
I recently retired 2 young coppers were telling me how hard they work constantly I asked them if this was their first job they said “right out of college,” they have zero idea of what the real world world is and what working hard means. Many young coppers with the college degree which I the new high schools diploma with the “marketing” degree would be lucky to make 40K a year for many hours and actually work harder. Funny listening to the “f this job I’m leaving” morons then years later they are still here. The reality is you will never make that kind of money you make here unless your connected to someone. Oh and the residency dream will never happen now put those Batman pajamas on young ones, put more punishers stickers on your lifted wrangler, get some more tattoos and skinny jeans, tell the girls at the bar “I’m smart and people like me,” and please for your own good stfu!
10/24/2018 06:25:00 AM
I know all kinds of people that make more money than me with their college degrees and I have 20 years on this shit hole. None of them get their days off cancelled, don't have to live in Shitcago, and they work normal hours with weekends and holidays off too.
"Rahm's hiring wave receding into memory?"
Faster than his hairline, SCC...
Anonymous said...
O.T. - I just watched the PBS show "Frontline". This week's segment is named, "The Pension Gamble". It focuses on looming issues concerning Kentucky's public-sector pensions. The show only touched the surface concerning public-sector pension issues, but the program does help to provide a foundation so members are educated consumers to ask questions. Votes in the election for Chicago Police Pension Representative - D1, D2 and D2A will be counted on Oct. 25, 2018. "An educated consumer is an organization's best customer."
10/24/2018 12:37:00 AM
How a Gang of Hedge Funders Strip-Mined Kentucky’s Public Pensions
https://theintercept.com/2018/10/21/kentucky-pensions-crisis-hedge-funds/
Illinois Gov. Bruce Rauner, Sworn Foe of Pensions, Made a Fortune Charging High Fees to Public Pensions
https://theintercept.com/2018/10/22/illinois-governor-bruce-rauner-pensions/
Anonymous said...
Must be the worthless Detention Aides earning over time.
10/24/2018 08:32:00 AM
Those positions used to be filled by Police Officers
Hey Sun Times...double the figures the CPD is giving you and it would be more accurate.
Never forget the FBI considers the CPD crime stats suspect to the point they're dismissed when calculating annual crime totals for the country.
THe Democommunist News Media ? They’re Lying..
Officers making all that OT, all OK as long as the Politicians get their envelopes
10/24/2018 12:30:00 AM
Is there a section where we don’t have to follow orders?
Snafu in the swipe card program.
It’s obvious that the fifth-party vendor gets a cut of swipes savings, just like a lottery agent, parking meter processor or GoFundME.
Just saying,what the new DOJ should look into is Federal $$$$ how was it really used for. I'll bet certain commanders will poop themselves.
Audit coming down on units 353 and 153. Not swiping in and out as ordered for OT.
fuckstick rahm blew all the cash on bullshit.
10/24/2018 03:10:00 PM
I'm still looking for Rahm's tunnel out to O'Hare....too bad his "Boring" buddy had to settle with the SEC after fraud charges were brought against him.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sgt D.S., the admin Sergeant in 007 highly contributed to the overtime going up. How can an admin sergeant consistiantly have over 100 hours of overtime??
10/24/2018 10:04:00 AM
Diamond Dave is slippery.
They put cameras up around 26th St. for a reason boys & girls. Bad news coming soon.
Retired 12+ years now and am proud to say I never once, in my entire career, worked a voluntary extra hour, let alone, a full day. I know. Everyone has an excuse for the overtime but you create the actual need. Take responsibility for that mostly unnecessary need that drives you to work overtime or days off.
What's my point or direction I'm going? Maybe, just maybe, if no one volunteered for overtime, the department would be forced to HIRE more cops. More cops that would feed into the pension fund and allow you to spend time with your family by not having time denied.
There is NO CLAUSE in the contract, unlike the no strike clause, that requires you to work your days off except in emergencies. Put pressure on the department/city and enjoy life in the meantime.
10/24/2018 02:03:00 AM
I recently retired 2 young coppers were telling me how hard they work constantly I asked them if this was their first job they said “right out of college,” they have zero idea of what the real world world is and what working hard means. Many young coppers with the college degree which I the new high schools diploma with the “marketing” degree would be lucky to make 40K a year for many hours and actually work harder. Funny listening to the “f this job I’m leaving” morons then years later they are still here. The reality is you will never make that kind of money you make here unless your connected to someone. Oh and the residency dream will never happen now put those Batman pajamas on young ones, put more punishers stickers on your lifted wrangler, get some more tattoos and skinny jeans, tell the girls at the bar “I’m smart and people like me,” and please for your own good stfu!
You sound like a fucking moron, maybe you need a little college. Oh you must be too good for that.
Where's the new 1000 police officers ?????? I don't fuck'n see them !!!!!
I know all kinds of people that make more money than me with their college degrees and I have 20 years on this shit hole. None of them get their days off cancelled, don't have to live in Shitcago, and they work normal hours with weekends and holidays off too.
And none of them have a pension plan which will guarantee you money in your old age. I retired at age 54 from the CPD and make more money in retirement than many of my friends who are school teachers, mid-level managers. They will work until 65. Count your blessings. Not all of your compensation arrives on the 1st and 16th.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They put cameras up around 26th St. for a reason boys & girls. Bad news coming soon.
10/24/2018 08:29:00 PM
Not going to reveal much but if you think that punching in and doing what you do was not going to jam you up your in for a big surprise. losing the job would be 1 thing, but with the camera evidence you will be another group of "media darlings" marched out and charged,oh and all that money will be required to be paid back after your prison stint.
City cries NO MONEY !!!!!! Where the fuck is all the O/T money coming from??????????
Where are the new 1000 police officers????????????? I don't see them !!!!!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Audit coming down on units 353 and 153. Not swiping in and out as ordered for OT.
Never going to happen. All Johnson has to do is order the swiping for OT. If it doesn’t happen that day, new CO the next. Can stop all of it if they really want to
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Last time I checked we don’t need to punch in or out per our union contract.
10/24/2018 12:30:00 AM
Can you possibly post the section and wording of the contract that indicates that we do not have to "punch" or "swipe" in or out. I would like to be more enlightened on our contract. I couldn't find the section you are referring to. Thank you.
Oh it must be true. Just ask a Sgt. in the Area Central. He hasn’t swiped in yet. He can’t find his i.d card. He’s manually put in.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Where are the new 1000 police officers????????????? I don't see them !!!!!!!
10/25/2018 10:27:00 AM
They were hired. Check the districts. Just because you don’t see them doesn’t mean they weren’t hired
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