Something Isn't Right Here
- Enrollment at Chicago Public Schools dropped to historic lows this autumn after the district recorded one of its largest single-year declines in 16 years.
The 361,314 students counted on the 20th day of classes represents a reduction of 10,000 students from last school year.
That’s not quite as big a drop as in the 2016-17 school year, when enrollment went down by about 11,000 from the preceding year. But it continues a long-standing trend as CPS enrollment has been in steady decline since 2003-04.
Unlike in previous years, there will be less of an impact on the budgets of schools that saw enrollment declines. CPS opted this year to base school budgets on enrollment counts from last school year instead of this year’s 20th day of classes.
So enrollment is going down. You know what's not going down?
- The property tax assessment portion tied to the schools.
Enrollment down, spending up. That's a recipe for disaster.
Labels: money questions
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
76 Comments:
Combine low-enrollment schools and close/sell off the shuttered ones. Like you said, our taxes aren’t decreasing as the enrollment does.
Why shouldn’t enrollment be down. CPS teachers are fleeing Chicago along with their children in tow. Moving to the suburbs and the real troopers as far out as Indiana. Oh but wait the CPS principals operate on the don’t ask don’t tell motto. CPS teachers for the most part should reside in Chicago and take huge chances of getting caught. Oh but wait a minute who monitors the residency over at CPS? What a joke I can give you 25 right now and it’s not even my job.
Lets do the math. 10,000/25 per class equals 400 less teachers needed. -10,000@$8500 ea =$85,000,000 fewer budget dollars needed. Probably 40-50 fewer principles and same number vice principles and thousand or so office staffs. Willing to bet head count is the same and administrative staff dollars higher this year then last. CPS shell game and the really sad part is they are turning out non functional graduates. The CPS is a total joke.
Chicago is being hollowed out...
CPS enrollment during the 1960's
was something like 750K...
Gee... Wonder what happened?
Maybe there's something to the rumor
of the middle class saying "fukdis"
to their children being dumbed-down
and endangered.
Funny... People are all angst-y because
"You Cops are saying 'Leave and let them rot'
to us who want to live here."
No... It's your fellow citizens running
for their lives to escape this town."
I know a few teachers who are changing careers— the say that they can’t teach at CPS— too much bs
Blacks moving out back south....to escape unsafe streets.... old folks getting squeezed out..taxes skyrocketing... property values trail rest of USA cities .,,,expensive for young folks ….crime rising... what do blue dems care ,except for illegals
A vote for dimms in nov is a vote for fox , perpwinkle, arena rest of asssholes
Providing a world class education is a expensive business,
Most people wouldn't even send their dog to Chicago Public Schools.
It has been my understanding now that many people, of all races, and of all types are leaving. Getting out while they can. Crime, high taxes and corruption are the reasons given. Eight years ago I talked to a gentlemen who was leaving the state and moving south to Georgia. It was cheaper and safer there he said as he picked up his last paycheck and headed out. The state is losing more and more people. The city is losing more people. And yes Chicago is slowly dying, make no mistake about that people. Rant off.
Stay in the sanctuary city for the lead drinking water, red light cameras, speed cameras, out of control random violence, surging property taxes, political corruption, etc.
People are moving away from the fuck'n City of Chicago. I don't blame them. Chicago schools suck!!!!!
Here is what they do with the extra staff. They assign them to the "problem" children in the building. That's right, CPS does not kick out kids or suspend them. What they do is have a large group of highly paid non-doctors come in and say the child needs a "one on one" aid. They then have the extra staff babysit the problem child every day at regular teacher pay. So if your child goes to public school have them disrupt the class and swear at the principal and they can get themselves their own private teacher.
Has JB's people been seen removing any toilets from the schools?
Tax increases are needed to replace the missing computers, tools and other supplies that disappear. Yes internal theft is a major problem at CPS. Sadly CPS employees have very sticky fingers.
Close underutilized buildings. Consolidate yutes in gyms of remaining facilities and give them old truck tires to throw around for 8 hours. Start with shithole Schurz.
10/27/2018 02:12:00 AM
And yet these mfers will still vote Democrat.
I would say Chicago is already dead. The race-baiting, police-hating, minority-pandering sanctuary city, Chicago, and it’s cohort, Cook County, are the laughingstock of this country. The rest of the state of Illinois is on it’s last leg with no real way of coming back from the catastrophic damage caused by Madigan. It’s over.
And yet the mayor is rapidly spending billions of dollars building new schools for a totally declining population of students unless you’re counting the illegals that the mayor is filling the scores up what we have how many of them going to invade a country still marching in from everywhere along the route if the president doesn’t stop them many wind up here in Chicago going to school is free voting three free healthcare free free free everything on the backs of the hard-working United States citizen taxpayers yet the federal government does absolutely nothing to arrest and died and charge elected that are evolving so much criminal behaviors
They smart already. They don’t need no education.
Let them leave.
Math never lies. How about $120 million in transportation services! I understand the need to get the students with Special Needs back and forth safely and have no problem paying. There is absolutely no need to be paying for bussing for able people. Every household has 2-3 cars that can drop off at school. Bussing was established to promote diversity not as a mode for parents to shift their duties. This is real money. If parents or parent want their kid to take the bus, then they should pay for it. Education might be free, but transportation is not part of the deal.
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
Lets do the math. 10,000/25 per class equals 400 less teachers needed. -10,000@$8500 ea =$85,000,000 fewer budget dollars needed. Probably 40-50 fewer principles and same number vice principles and thousand or so office staffs. Willing to bet head count is the same and administrative staff dollars higher this year then last. CPS shell game and the really sad part is they are turning out non functional graduates. The CPS is a total joke
Not to worry. This 10,000 shortfall will be made up in the next few months
Word on the 5th floor is that lame duck Rahm will dispatch buses to the border to bring "caravan" people back to Chicago to show we are a world class sanctuary city
In case none of you ever noticed...
The purpose of Chicago Public Schools is to employ people to work for CPS. Everything they do and everything they want to do furthers the goal of staying employed, and increasing their income, power and prestige.
It has NOTHING to do with educating Chicago's Children.
Don't believe me? Look at the actual miserable results. Are they actually educating Chicago Children?
Democrats.
Go to Indiana where they tax your pension, 401k, 457, whatever you have they tax it, No Senior citizen tax break period. Wisconsin too, don't fool yourself plenty of info to make a decision.
Guess CTU, aka commie teachers union won't have any legs to stand on for their whining for raises and pension contributions next contract.
But it is "for the children!"
Good to see that lie isn't working anymore.
Don’t worry, sanctuary status allows everyone in illegally ...anchor babies and those crossing the border get the free education our taxes are paying for. Too many English speaking teachers tired of dealing with this and needing an interpreter to deal with the non English speaking parent or the kid who can’t do the their work in English. Fact.
5 more years to collect a pension & I’m out chiraq.. Chicago is a Dump a product created by Democrats.
Probably yet another reason to vote for Vallas.
He knows all about the CPS budget and has family on the job and thusfar is the only candidate for Mayor that has published plans to bail out the budget and pension syste,
Please VOTE!
gotta make sure the parasites are living well
CPS has a sexual assault problem.
The property tax assessment portion tied to the schools.
Enrollment down, spending up. That's a recipe for disaster.
The DemoRats used the be the working man's party.
Now its the "line my pockets party".
Vote Republican.
"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of 'liberalism' they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened.
I no longer need to run as a Presidential Candidate for the Socialist Party. The Democrat Party has adopted our platform."
Norman Thomas, Socialist Party Presidential Candidate in 1940, 1944 and 1948, co-founder of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU).
Chicago has been slowly dying for years. The school system has been a disaster. Paying more tax money and getting less.
Troll reader: No Dah, Remember the Benjamin Willis (Billets) trailers parked on school property in the mid 60's when enrollment was 700K plus as a stop gap to increase classroom space? The city boasted 3.2 million souls? I hope CPD officer Remax is reading this because when the comparison of the decline of Chicago and Detroit is made, if is for real. Feel me?
It’s the Democratic way.
Democrats don’t reduce spending. Absurd taxes for 💩 schools.
Never let a good Scam go untested, axe Bird-Bennett.
Who trusts the integrity of the Corrupt CPS...raise your hand.
Whether it’s grades, admissions, criminal activity, overspending, internal fraud and even attendance.
Annual Illinois CPS funding is based on opening day attendance.
So, after 20 days they find out there’s 11,000 students missing?
Were undocumented tallied up or brought in to boost the Gubmint funding?
And to think they’ve been doing this for decades.
Cross check those missing student addresses with voter registrations if you dare, Inspector.
Corrupt CPS funding is tied to teacher pension too.
Corrupt CPS was given the authority to increase property tax levies for pension funding, rather than raise their outdated measly 2% contribution. Talk about “entitlements”.
Lot of low info people like to blame Paul Vallas for his time at CPS and that’s too bad.
Look at all his predecessors, just all of Rahm appointees for starters.
Vallas was able to reform three other public schools since he left CPS.
Something was up with Shortshanks spending and manipulating.
I also think Vallas is so hated and feared by The Machine for his finance reform efforts.
Vote Early.
And remember, Write In Candidate for Cook Co Bd President - Jonathan H. Luers
Dump or at least send a message to Prickwrinkle.
Its no wonder caravans of foreign non American flag waving seeking asylum refugees are pouring in encouraged by a political party which has the most to gain. The newest foreign nationals will ultimately have children on someone else's dime filling in those enrollment gaps for public schools ensuring the need for government awarded contracts for school buses, free or reduced to free school lunch programs and delivered to the front door of the school free of charge never any deductibles medical care. All paid for by you.
Education is the gateway to money making contract schemes for so many who participate in those established educationally inspired money making opportunities. Third world educational achievements require non-stop in-addition funding to improve educational outcomes.
More teachers equate to more union dues to be redistributed to local progressive democrat candidates in the form of campaign contributions in exchange for more generous funding mechanisms for public school bureaucracies to squander in the name of the children.
But Chicago-Americans are not fooled by this education based scheme sending their children to performing schools outside the C.P.S. system that educate and give their children the opportunity to live the American Dream. And yes, American born children are Dreamers too! This is contrary to disturbing daily fake media who are more concerned with other than American children and ignore the crisis of an established out of control failed public education system right here in our own backyard.
This is a positive story.
Parents are sending their children to other schools, other places to get away from the one party Lib Leftist Dem BlackLiesmatter state.
I'm not a Libertarian and believe our government can and should do good things like a strong effective military to kill or deter various real enemies (not the Russians or Serbs), but yeah, in this corrupt one party Lib Dem state - let parents have more freedom to choose private, religious schools or other states not run by the likes of Rahm Arnie Duncan (never attended a Chicago public school, refuses to enroll his children in a Chicago public school), Kim Fox, Toni P, Tim Evans.
Who's the new head of Chicago public schools? Isn't she a Kim Fox type BlackLiesMatter type?
When some clown called something like "Chance the Rapper" is presented as some expert on Chicago public school education, yeah, parents are going to flee from this sh*#&$#.
Let's privatize, live in more gated communities, have private security/police forces like the University of Chicago police force. Private prisions.
India was once run by the British East Indian company before it became a formal British colony. That could be the model.
Google and Twitter now have $ billions - they could offer private education and private health care to separate their high tech workers from the drug addicted homeless or "undocumented" polluting the Bay Area California.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Combine low-enrollment schools and close/sell off the shuttered ones. Like you said, our taxes aren’t decreasing as the enrollment does.
10/27/2018 12:11:00 AM
Now that makes sense so the CPS won’t do it. In fact it was in the papers a day or two ago that the CPS agreed to give those schools two years to improve attendance. Closing a school produces large savings. Not only teachers salaries and benefits , but the costs of support staff, heat, electricity, building maintenance ,etc
When will my "school district" portion of property tax go down?
Chicago is going the way of San Francisco. It will not be too long that what is left is the rich and the poor. There will be no middle class or a very small segment of what is now known as the middle class These figures are telling. Look at the schools on southwest side and many on the Northwest side of the city. Almost all Hispanic. The white middle class is leaving in droves. According to the last census, the city was approximately 1/3 black, 1/3 Hispanic, and 1/3 white. It should be interesting to see the next census.
Providing a world class education is a expensive business,
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Okay Rahm...
So if they lost 11000 last year and only 10000 this year. That Means enrollment is up, Isn’t that how they will portray this at the press conference.
Detroit in a few year book it
Then over here why won't this pathetic crybaby just go away?
Mail bomb suspect may have threatened U.S. Rep. Gutierrez on social media, congressman says
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/politics/ct-met-mail-bomb-suspect-luis-gutierrez-threat-20181026-story.html
*May of threatened him? "Mr Kotter,Mr. Kotter,oh oh look at me!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ju-lptJweTc
looks like little luis also, just go away quickly terrorist sympathizer your time is finished resign now retire please!
"Turn out the lights the party's over
They say all good things must end
Call it a night the party's over"
In any company when business is down the company cuts back and lays off many. Lets examine this we have 10,000 less students (there are probably many more we know how they lie "Liars figure,and then figures lie), so many should be let go! look at all the new schools rahm is building spending billions and billions of scare dollars, like throwing "our dollars" into the fire-pit, who is getting paid-off for this malfeasance? The feds take a total hands off approach to all the corruption by the elected, it is no wonder liberal publications say "Chicago is the most corrupt city in the entire USA."
Here's some contributing factors: charter schools are more popular and predominant than they were 10 years ago and even more so 15 years ago. Charter schools are in no way associated with the CPS. Actually, the influx of charter schools is detrimental in general. Most charter schools are "private" in a sense, yet still get tremendously more state funding than your traditional private schools--Catholic and Christian schools. Additionally, it's statistically proven that parents are having less kids in 2018. Thus, the average size of the family is smaller. It's not 1960 where a family of 10 was squeezed into a second-floor apartment. The times have changed for a variety of reasons. I am not denying the fact that Chicago's population is undergoing a slight exodus, however it is not at number that is overly concerning.
how many of CPS students are Illegals
no medical history on file
your tax dollar supporting Illegals
New way of dealing with scum years ago hmm:
F*ck the police" (Denver edition)
On the 16th Street Mall
https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=C6NyM_1539809194
Coppers had a lot of patience happy to be retired sickening, maybe they will meet their own “mr mayhem” soon!
There are a lot of Folks living out here in DeKalb these days. The only rental market is the one for Section 8. This resulted when a now departed University President managed to drop the NIU enrollment by about a third. And after the University let a private consortium build a huge new residence hall complex on University property. So, who else can our local landlords rent their apartments to?
One local racist and xenophobe has tried to research how many kids in our schools are legitimate, and how many are out here living with relatives. So far the inquiry has gone unanswered.
Dear “Let’s do the math,”
Over the past 10 years, there are 7,000 less teachers due to declining enrollment, the newish “per pupil expenditure formula, and the influx of charter schools/privatization movement. There are tons of vacant teaching positions! Please, try the job for a week. You will see how great it is.
I live in the Dunning neighborhood and after this latest round of getting screwed over by CPS over the new Taft Freshman Campus, I am seriously considering leaving Chicago for the burbs. I dont understand why the the citizens who pay the most taxes, get the least amount of city services. We are shorted police manpower in 016 and now CPS wants us to send our kids to Steinmetz instead of the new school once they get out of elementary school. Steinmetz has had an awful reputation since the 80s that they still cant shake. Why in the hell do I want to send my kids to Steinmetz when Taft has a much better reputation. This city really sticks it to the taxpayers...
Why isn’t our taxes going down?
Yet some schools like Canty (even after a new addition was built) seem to be overcrowded every year. Guess no boundary enforcement?
I hope you notice no teacher layoffs, Fuck You CPS!
As long as the appointed school board gives our money To connected for profit charter schools, they will continue to steal students from CPS. Shell game. That’s all this is. For the connected.
Then this the agin the people paying hevay taxes for mundane almost zero services don't they know Ryan stated long ago, "If you do anything here you will be caught," you would think that with that stern warning from a laughable clouted exempt the shooter would have not done this right?
'Everyone scattered': Frightened shoppers duck, hotel guests hear shots from 13 floors up as gunman wounds man in Loop
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-chicago-violence-shooting-20181027-story.html
This is incredible the liberal paper giving a description of the usual suspects a 'black man"
The shooting suspect stands about 6-foot-2, is black and was wearing a black jacket and black pants, police said. He was carrying a black book bag with red lettering, they said
Needs down but spending up, the Chicago Values and Chicago Way in action. Not often that both things that make city so "great" come into play at same time. But the CPS is a perfect example, especially when you look at what a sterling job they do educating the community students.
So who picks up the bill when even more taxpaying citizens leave the city? Not long before all that's left is lakefront condo dwellers and the needy. Just how much more are you willing to pay to live in the city? This is why residency is required of all city workers. 40,000 city workers leaving the city will cause the complete collapse of property values and city treasury. That cannot let that happen. All it would take is one city employee union to file out case. All other cases in country have struck down residency requirements. Someone needs to step up and eight this battle. But if you be prepared for the higher taxes bankruptcy and that will be unavoidable.
Anonymous said...
There are a lot of Folks living out here in DeKalb these days. The only rental market is the one for Section 8. This resulted when a now departed University President managed to drop the NIU enrollment by about a third. And after the University let a private consortium build a huge new residence hall complex on University property. So, who else can our local landlords rent their apartments to?
One local racist and xenophobe has tried to research how many kids in our schools are legitimate, and how many are out here living with relatives. So far the inquiry has gone unanswered.
10/27/2018 02:23:00 PM
Now NIU is like Chicago State don't send your kids to Northern! We now have Rockford and Chicago gangs fighting each other over the Dekalb drug trade.
Anonymous said...
how many of CPS students are Illegals
no medical history on file
your tax dollar supporting Illegals
10/27/2018 01:17:00 PM
Who do you think is bringing the new strain of Polio spreading fast?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why isn’t our taxes going down?
Because the CPS is doing their annual INCREASE in their budget even tho enrollment is down like it has been for years. Did you expect anything different?
So if they lost 11000 last year and only 10000 this year. That Means enrollment is up, Isn’t that how they will portray this at the press conference.
10/27/2018 11:29:00 AM
Are the one's who terrorize the loop part of the lost?
FLEE ILLINOIS!!
Since there's less kids in the classroom, can we expect less expenditures for Communist Public Schools (CPS)? Its all the about the kids right?
Not!!!!!!!!
Its all about the corrupt and selfish CTU.
We Are All Replaceable
Why in the hell do I want to send my kids to Steinmetz when Taft has a much better reputation. This city really sticks it to the taxpayers
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Taft Highschool is no better. CPS across the board is nothing but breeding grounds for self-entitled, commie-sympathizer young Liberals.
Save your kids. Move out if you can.
Because Canty and every other school north of Dever are the only ones worth a shit.
It’s always been about ‘the children’ since Ivstarted. Look at the miserable results that these young Ems have turned into -generation after generation..
We have been dealing with CPS the last 16 years. I am happy to say we are done. I will gladly make sacrifices and make changes to our lifestyle to afford private high schools.
I left IL. And its GRRREAT!
Instead of teaching , CPS has turned into baby sitting class rooms !!!!!!!!!!!
Chicago Dying? Never, it'll find new life as another Detroit or Baltimore.
The budget will be pared to account for decreased enrollment, with any remaining surplus going straight to the CPD pension fund.
Right?
As long as the appointed school board gives our money To connected for profit charter schools, they will continue to steal students from CPS. Shell game. That’s all this is. For the connected.
10/27/2018 06:44:00 PM
The ctu posts a commiement.
How lovely.
Chastising for alleged clout whilst thoroughly saturated in greedy clout for it's entire existence.
Boo fucking hoo.
The fucking democrats, grafting scum all, have been the ctu hog trough fillers forever.
Turn the ENTIRE fraud of the cps into ALL privately operated true educational providers.
Public financing via Vouchers of set amount defined by 3 criteria:
1. Age of student. Tentative stages: 5-7, 8-10, 11-13, 14-16. (After this, taxpayers have no longer any reasonable interest in financing further educational ambitions of anyone.)
2. Optional offer of discount off tuitions, with verifiable proof of standard yearly income, said discount only where voucher amount less than chosen school's tuition, thus, voucher accepted as covering the tuition.
3. No preferences on voucher acceptance other than first come, first served. Vouchers paid at end of each successful quarterly completion of student so enrolled. This motivates both school & student/parent to pay attention to the result.
Private school acceptance into voucher payment receptions comply with public interests in paying.
All cps buildings offered for lease to private enterprises so inclined.
Parents decide with far more control & responsibility.
The ctu clout graftings in collusion with the democrat hogs is the base source of most problems. The base source.
Fuck the ctu. Fuck the democrats.
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