As Feared
And once again, Crimesha flips the police the bird:
- Two felony weapons charges were filed Wednesday against a man who was being chased by two Chicago police officers before they were fatally stuck by a train on the Far South Side earlier this week, officials said.
Edward Brown, 24, of Chicago, is charged with aggravated unlawful use of a weapon and reckless discharge of a firearm, according to the Cook County state’s attorney’s office. He was scheduled to appear for a bond hearing Thursday at the Leighton Criminal Court Building.
And we all know what a deterrent those charges are. We've all seen UUW offenders in the lockup mere days after getting out on a previous gun charge. Cook County "justice" has often been a joke, but under Crimesha it has become farcical.
Remember when they used to charge criminals if an officer had a medical emergency during a foot pursuit? Or when the actions of the offender could be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to have caused injury to responding personnel? You'd think firing a gun in a populated area would provoke a police response, and therefore fleeing into a zone of danger would be chargeable under the law.
Nope.
Remember when they used to charge criminals if an officer had a medical emergency during a foot pursuit? Or when the actions of the offender could be proven beyond a reasonable doubt to have caused injury to responding personnel? You'd think firing a gun in a populated area would provoke a police response, and therefore fleeing into a zone of danger would be chargeable under the law.
Nope.
Labels: un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
127 Comments:
But if a firefighter dies, the person found to have started the fire gets charged with murder.
Agg discharge and he can be charged with murder. This is only reckless discharge so is not able to be upgraded to murder. For agg discharge you MUST have a victim or witness who WILL say they were being shot at so you can’t charge agg discharge without a victim. Reckless discharge can have a state victim as it’s just discharging the gun. It was charged appropriately in my mind and that’s after being a detective for 22 years. Reckless discharge is NOT classified as a forcible felony or one that may cause gbh to a person.. agg discharge has potential to cause GBH. So now you can only hope for a few things.. at indictment he will be charged with numerous felonies including felony disorderly conduct, felony reckless conduct etc. so, if found guilty a good judge is needed who will find him on all charges then sentence him CONSECUTIVLY and not concurrently so he can get anywhere from 16-30 years consecutive depending on how many he is charged with and what he is charged with.
If anyone held out a glimmer of hope that Foxx is working to represent the good people of Cook County and not acting as as social justice warrior defense attorney for every shitbag that walks the streets and does crime , this is your wakeup call.
When I read this at 8 oclock, my first thought was wait til SCC comments.
Thank you SCC for your efforts.
To the incumbent Cook County States Attorney.
F.Y.
Would the media ask her why not felo y murder?
To the A.S.A.'s when you look in the mirror the image is of a Quisling.
Bastards.
I just can’t wait to leave Chicago and Cook County. This place is a joke!
I'm retired now but I've been in that room many times. I can only imagine the state insisting that it's two separate incidents and the train striking the officers was only an accident. I'm sure the detectives put up a good fight but the state has the last word. The state ignores the fact that the officers were only there IMMEDIATELY due to the offenders actions. Now I use the word immediately understaing the fact of electronic time lapse (shot spotter, 911 call, time to dispatch) but that's as immediate as an officer can get to while working on the street. Can anyone there chime in if it went down that way?
She’s absolutely disgusting. FOP, go on the offensive. Call this bitch out every time there’s a serious crime and she either undercharges or doesn’t properly charge. The more you show it, the more it’s gonna be noticed. Embarrass this bitch.
No. I just can't say it here.
Unbelievable! Keep working hard! Criminals have the upper hand in Crook County!
Where is the double homicide charges?
Where’s Rham and Special Ed when you need them to call out Crimesha in this travesty???
Don't let their deaths be in vain!!! Young officers, the people of Chicago voted for Crime-esha knowing her hatred for police. It IS time to stop!!! Forget that "Be the change" crap they are teaching you in the academy. Older cops aren't lazy, we just see the writing on the wall. You all are basically learning the job from each other, rather than from experienced officers... because the city still wants their numbers... and, you are their means. I'm hoping the cuteness of the job has worn off and you all are ready to play some political hard ball.
It was all for nothing.
Felony Murder. And she knows it! This is what they think of us
If the criminal had been hit, the family would be suing. I hope these families Sue everyone.
What statute would have fit this best?
Foxx and her enabler, Preckwinkle, will make an appearance at our heroes wakes and funerals. The FOP should call for all officers to turn their backs to these two police hating individuals in order to show our disgust with the policies they are pushing.
Well if you had any doubt about how Crimisha see you it should be obvious now. You are just a target that her people get to use anyway they want. You on the other hand had better not say or do anything they can construed to cost you your job. Chase no one for any reason or better would be to find another way to make a living that dosen't have a POS gunning for you.
We obviously need stricter gun laws! (har dee har har)
Why dont the Feds charge the MUTT with FEDERAL CHARGES OF MURDER because the two officers were killed in pursuit of this MUTT? Or at least viol of the officers civil rights by getting them killed chasing this MUTT. Stay F E T A L boys and girls !
The FOP should contact President Trump and DOJ and request that the Federal government prosecute the asshole whose actions led to the death of our two heroes.
This is a tragedy on many levels. Two officers that had their lives taken from their family, friends and co-workers because someone feels the law doesn't apply to them. Another example of a felon defeating an arrest. Drop the gun...Stop. This doesn't happen! We all know very well that if the offender was killed by the train. The officers would be in jeopardy of losing their jobs, being charged criminally and a huge settlement would be on the way to the family. The City would just pay the offenders family a large sum of money and get rid of the officers involved. How screwed up is the thought process. Defeating an arrest of a fleeing felon. Those words don't mean anything any longer. JVD is the prime example that the State Law that is supposed to protect us all is not a Law any longer. I know the family will receive help from many different organizations, but it seams to me the City should be writing a big check to each of them at the levels that they approve for the offenders that die.
As for myself I am going to pray for the families of the 2 officers. I am going to find what i can give up financially to help the officers families.
The Felony Murder rule dd not apply, as the bad guy had not been involved in the commission of a forcible felony at the time of the incident. Nothing more we could ask for.
Lesson of the day: Proceed slowly to Shotspotter calls.
Those days are over. The Great Unwashed Democrat welfare voter must be placated.
I am mourning the loss of the fallen but why are coppers not just writing reports? Why are you guys putting your life and freedoms on the line when the CCSAO is not stepping up to the plate? I get the "We took an oath,,," but nothing says we have to give chase. Now I see ahy the department ame up with a foot chasing pllicy. I just don't see how cops don't see the writing on the walls.
In this lawless cultural wilderness you are lucky this idiot was charged with a felony at all. Did you really expect a felony murder charge in Cook County?
No Forcible Felony thereby.....
The State and Federal FOP organizations should be organizing some type of action against the States Attorneys office (KIM FOX). If a police offices risks his life for the community its officials should follow the law as it is written in this instance at least, fficer lost their lives.
Keep voting Democratic !
Just keep on putting your life, liberty and fortune at risk for a system that dosen't respect you at all.
You are a human resource worth 72,500 and due all the respect of a robot.
Fuck foxx.
Bring in the feds.
They are not responsible for their actions. They pay for nothing, free housing, cell phones, child care.
FOP CPD Brass someone needs to call Fox out on this bs. This is exactly what the “felony murder” charge is for. So cops can be charged with murder and 16 counts of agg battery when shooting g an armed assailaint but offenders shooting a gun and fleeing the police resulting in the officer’s death can’t be charged with felony murder. Unfrickenbelievable.
And I'm sure Mr. Brown is shaking in his pants with these charges.....NOT. Screw you kimme....just SCREW YOU.........
She came out of the Obamma mold!
Maybe the NTSB after a thorough investigation can recommend some federal charges to the US District attorney.
Sorry to hear that your SA no longer charges felony murder. It's not that way for a majority of the country. Just know that when you sign up for CPD, you will not be backed by your SA or the department for that matter. What a fucking crime!
Right and this asswipe "fully cooperated" ????? Found the gun in the alley ?
Should be charged with murder. Offenders actions caused death of both officers
How do we get rid of Foxx? Serious question
Kimmie has got to be the most racist, police hating, incompetent stares attorney in the country.
Sorry guys, but as a veteran detective i would have to agree with the charges. It's the best that could have been done under the circumstances.
Read the ILCS. It sucks, but it’s not gonna fly in this case. Like a previous poster said, hammer his ass with charges and hope for maximum consecutive sentences.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The FOP should contact President Trump and DOJ and request that the Federal government prosecute the asshole whose actions led to the death of our two heroes.
12/20/2018 06:07:00 AM
Now that is the first sensible response,Kevin get away from the buffet, pull that chair back blast to the media you and Marty, don't be scared "just do it!"
Again coppers that gave it all get slapped in face, where is our overpaid pathetic leadership? Eddie can you hear us? Any of the elected rahm,susie,the 50, any state senators, governor that are outraged? The old adage "piss on us and tell us it is raining," as usual Kimmy please resign immediately your incompetence shows in every-way everyday.
This is interesting from this thread:
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The FOP should contact President Trump and DOJ and request that the Federal government prosecute the asshole whose actions led to the death of our two heroes.
12/20/2018 06:07:00 AM
That is a great idea, but will anyone at FOP stand up and actually call a news conference and get this done? how about FOP so called leadership march into 219 dearborn and meet with the U.S. attorney and get results or are they to shy and afraid?
I will say it again.. Chicago is a great place to be a criminal. Just wait til the soda tax queen gets elected. This place is a joke.
Why would you turn your backs on them...the wake or funeral is not the right place...this is about honoring and saying farewell to the Officers...think about their families....maybe they do not want the drama...now you are making it about you...think of the families first
Foxx hates the police. She has publicly said that the police messed with HER PEOPLE when she was growing up in the Pfojects. I sure hope Precwine doesnt win the mayors race, she will probably then be the Corporation counsel. This is racism at its highest level. My kid is a suburban cop and they have the same issues with the States Attorney's.
SCC - I support you guys plenty. Absolutely detest what Foxx is doing most of the time.
But you guys are just wrong on this one. Wrong under the law.
Not wrong for the emotion. But, as you've maintained many times - emotion isn't law.
And it just doesn't help your cause.
Hey listen, I don't enjoy being the contrarian here, but you really want to put 2 homicides of cops on this guy? I know that's the law, and I know Crimesha is a fucking racially -oriented liberal clown, I get it. But you want a kid who fired a gun and ran from the police to be put in prison for the next 100 years? I don't know. People run when they commit crimes, that's what they do. Sorry, that's how I feel about this. And I'm a long-time cop on the CPD and I'm white.
Oh officers, this was just a poor24 year old who found a gun and just wanted to mess around up on the tracks and shoot the gun. This ass is an adult who should be held responsible. These 2 officers just weren't up there checking the scenery out, his actions caused the tragic outcome. DIRTY KIM STRIKES AGAIN.
Not sure felony murder fits into this incident though don't know all the facts and it could depending on circumstances. However if there was ever a time to throw the book at a gun offender this would be it. Max sentences for each crime. This subjects actions led to death of two officers. No excuses.
Imagine if this “ poor misguided child” had been struck and killed by the train? Instead of the officers?
Anonymous said...
Foxx and her enabler, Preckwinkle, will make an appearance at our heroes wakes and funerals. The FOP should call for all officers to turn their backs to these two police hating individuals in order to show our disgust with the policies they are pushing.
12/20/2018 05:47:00 AM
Fuck the FOP, Do you need to be told by anyone to turn your backs? Act like you have a pair and do it on your own!
Well, Illinois justice COULD be worse....
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/12/stunning-islamist-screaming-allahu-akbar-as-he-attacked-cops-with-sword-found-not-guilty-did-not-mean-to-hurt-anyone/
They unanimously acquitted the Uber driver, who lashed out at three officers on August 25 last year.
One of the officers said he had ‘fought for his life’ in the terrifying incident but a jury had failed to reach a verdict in June this year.
After that trial collapsed, Chowdhury was held at Belmarsh Prison – where he passed the time sketching pictures of an Islamist terrorist gunning down a man outside Number 10.
Momma on the news said her son doesn’t own a gun. It’s not him. Anyone check his Facebook page yet?
I can’t wait to leave this place. It’s fucking disgusting. In normal city and county he would been liable for death of this two officers, but who has a time for that, all of the ASA’s walking around wearing tight ass pants and Snapchating each other all day. They are bunch of useless lefties with no experience.
She in one of the reasons that taxpayers, both black and white are fleeing the state.
They do not respect decent, hard working people.
"Embarrass this bitch".
I don't know if that is possible.
From the Tribune: Cops killed by train were answering call of shots fired — suspect says he was just 'testing' a gun he found.
Incredibly how many people will believe his bull_h_t.
And when the judge asks him how much bail can he afford he will of course say $0 and will be let out on an ibond.
The FOP should contact President Trump and DOJ and request that the Federal government prosecute the asshole whose actions led to the death of our two heroes.
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A viable option because the train tracks are regulated by the federal government.
If I am not mistaken isn’t this his 3 Uuw charge?? Couldn’t he at least be charged as an armed habitual?? And I believe he is a documented gang member, what about the Alex Valadez law?? Again just asking.
What the hell is going on at swat?
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2018/12/19/marcy-hospital-chicago-fop-shooting-swat/
Lesson of the day: Proceed slowly to Shotspotter calls.
or 19p them
OT: was thinks about getting Puma brand shoes for Christmas gifts until i saw this.
Proud to stand with The Trayvon Martin Foundation. PUMA Hoops will donate five dollars for every Peace on Earth sold, up to a $100,000 donation.
another left wing company that stands against law and order. what does this foundation do and who gets the money? sounds like another lottery ticket scam.
Thank you 12:24 am for explaining that to me. I'm not a cop and don't always understand the laws sometimes. And a thank you to SCC for this blog. I read it every day and always learn something from the posts. Prayers for the POs, and to those in 05 also.
Is the Capital punishment via Federal indictment possible...sooner than later?
Passed in the House In May 2018 and to be sent for the Senate to approve is,
H.R.5698 - Protect and Serve Act of 2018.
The Senate Judiciary Comm. needs to get this to vote and on the desk of President Donald J. Trump.
The DOJ should be automatically referred all arrests for the injury or death of a law enforcement officer of every jurisdiction.
Cook County is not capable for following the laws of the land and it’s been proven over and over again.
KabriniKimmFxxxxp and alum 13th Flow Jugghaid “We need tougher gun laws” Special Ed
So where will this go?
Cook County does not have a intended victim of a Agg Assault, the Public Defender will likely argue that.
The discharge of a firearm statute seems to be written sufficiently for the UUW Ag Asslt complaint to proceed, if there were an “intended” victim. A slam dunk acquittal and chuckle compared to Rahm and his hefty ANOV fines. No FOID and ammo tax evasion?
It’s no surprise that Manslaughter was not considered either, given the climate and political charge that there are too many social injustices being perpetrated upon the people of colour.
This violent asshole is going to walk.
I heard on the radio that the dindu nuffin “fount” the gun.
Which is why he ran onto the tracks, government subsidized property and jurisdictions.
I hope this case can somehow get out of Crook County.
Rest In Peace Officers.
What about federal charges cause it happened on federal property-a rail line?
"Foxx and her enabler, Preckwinkle, will make an appearance at our heroes wakes and funerals. The FOP should call for all officers to turn their backs to these two police hating individuals in order to show our disgust with the policies they are pushing."
That's a great idea - they wont give a rats ass but it would make a great statement.
When officer in lockup struggled with s arrestee the officer had a heart attack and died. arestee found guilty of murder.
All politicians should be barred from the wake, they should be stopped at the front door and told they are not welcome f@cking hypocrities they could care less about us
Hope she at least had 1 count for each shot fired
(OT) So knives are weapons and kill people:
Police: 2 women killed in separate throat slashings Wednesday evening
https://abc7chicago.com/police-2-women-killed-in-separate-throat-slashings-wednesday-evening/4936559/
Better informed the crook county judges and states attorneys who are busy going after coppers for doing their jobs. In this county wrong is right yet right is wrong! "Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends come inside come inside" Like the hotel California you may never leave, look around at the massive corruption the most corruption in the entire USA per liberal media and if they say that it must be bad!
Did you hear the uproar the FOP speaking out on this and other shit from Rham and Crimessa?
Yea, me neither. DUMP THE FOP!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
When I read this at 8 oclock, my first thought was wait til SCC comments.
Thank you SCC for your efforts.
To the incumbent Cook County States Attorney.
F.Y.
Would the media ask her why not felo y murder?
To the A.S.A.'s when you look in the mirror the image is of a Quisling.
Bastards.
12/20/2018 12:29:00 AM
Unfortunately, the Illinois Felony Murder staute does not allow for this person to be charged with any murder related crimes. No forcible felony was being committed at the time of this incident.
Absolutely dispicable that MURDER charges weren’t sought against the offender. There are laws in place when offenders unlawful actions (Called Accountability) lead to deadly incidents like this tragic event. Once again Kim Foxx anti-police and Toni Preckwinkle stead fast and consistent with soft on crime. Fuck You both. We as an FOP must stick together for a very important cause and spread the word to have these disgraceful clowns in office replaced. Public servants my Ass!!!!
Elements of the crime are just not there. It’s fucked up, but its the law.
Retired W/C
rahm is the anti christ
The ‘community’ cares, but they really want to know where they can get their free Christmas ham.
His public defender stated that the 24 year old is a good ‘kid.’
Hey listen, I don't enjoy being the contrarian here, but you really want to put 2 homicides of cops on this guy? I know that's the law, and I know Crimesha is a fucking racially -oriented liberal clown, I get it. But you want a kid who fired a gun and ran from the police to be put in prison for the next 100 years? I don't know. People run when they commit crimes, that's what they do. Sorry, that's how I feel about this. And I'm a long-time cop on the CPD and I'm white.
12/20/2018 09:52:00 AM
You’re also an assclown.
WHY WHY WHY did the Crook County Assistant States Attorney go on live TV and cite the "OFFENDERS" version that he... "FOUND the gun in an alley and merely went to that area to test fire off '1' round."
Screw the Crook County soda tax revenue idea, fire all the liberal Crook County Public Defenders... the Crook County States Attorneys have now assumed that role.
To believe that crap was one thing but to go on TV and cite that BS as a defense is unconscionable.
another left wing company that stands against law and order. what does this foundation do and who gets the money? sounds like another lottery ticket scam.
12/20/2018 12:02:00 PM
"Believe in something, even if it means sacrificing everything". Beautiful thought. Of course that was/is the Nike ad campaign supporting their hero, Colin Kaepernick. Funny, this campaign started during the summer so I was sure come 9/11 Nike would have a heart warming ad about all the first responders who perished and "sacrificed everything". Still looking.
Kimesha has her law degree from SIU. Apparently, the only requirement is breathing since they have an acceptance percentage of 87!
What the hell is going on at swat?
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2018/12/19/marcy-hospital-chicago-fop-shooting-swat/
12/20/2018 11:30:00 AM
10 rifles were issued and found to be defective. Swat is also missing 8 handguns and one shotgun. IAD investigating.
Lets hope its a field day for all you CCW carriers.
Calling Paul Kelsey! Have a job for you in Chicago.
was he a felon with gun and known gang member? Why not add that to charges. Someone check bullets in clip bet his fingerprints are on the bullets. If so question where and when he bought the ammo, they are sure to have video, bet he is not on that video. You want him charged with more do the legwork.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey listen, I don't enjoy being the contrarian here, but you really want to put 2 homicides of cops on this guy? I know that's the law, and I know Crimesha is a fucking racially -oriented liberal clown, I get it. But you want a kid who fired a gun and ran from the police to be put in prison for the next 100 years? I don't know. People run when they commit crimes, that's what they do. Sorry, that's how I feel about this. And I'm a long-time cop on the CPD and I'm white.
12/20/2018 09:52:00 AM
Yes, I absolutely would like to put 2 bodies on him and hope that he never sets foot outside of prison for the rest of his life. His actions are the direct result of two police officer's deaths. If you think otherwise, please quit.
You know what else people do when they commit crimes? They run, they fight police, they commit more crimes; they put the rest of society in danger by the very virtue of their freedom. And if you, as a police officer, attempt to take that freedom away and are killed while doing so, then I would also want that person to be in prison for the rest of their life.
She is doing EXACTLY what she campaigned on.
Yep, every time I come into possession of a new firearm, I make my way over to the rail yard where commuter trains carrying hundreds of people to and from work go by every 25 minutes or so. So when I'm testing that newly acquired/found gun, the chance of an accidental discharge or errant shot would be sure not to hurt anyone. Some public defender came up with that line of bullshit. But God forbid an offender of color be held over before getting his electronic monitoring bracelet and I-bond, even if his actions resulted in the death of two police officers.
And that moron who lives on North Monticello with his social media comments on this tragedy ought to be throttled.
The whole point is that the offender can not be charged with the officers death, I Imagine the engineer was interviewed about what he saw before the officers were struck and in addition the train cameras along with the body cameras were viewed and if it is determined they were just walking/running on or by the rails before they were struck then it is an accident. If the cameras show that they were actively chasing the offender before they were struck then he could be charged in their deaths....apparently the video shows something that we are not aware of but it wasn’t enough to charge the offender with the officers death.
What if this gun has a match to another crime/murder? Can this mutt be charged with that crime.
Claims he found the gun , soon to be released on electronic monitoring.
SCC,
Things are really bad on swat. It’s hit or miss if we get a rifle that works. We hardly train and when we do it’s horrible.
It’s obvious our team is in very bad shape. We are being threatened not to reveal what is really going on over here. Now we are rotating watches every period. Not what I signed up for.
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2018/12/19/marcy-hospital-chicago-fop-shooting-swat/
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What the hell is going on at swat?
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2018/12/19/marcy-hospital-chicago-fop-shooting-swat/
12/20/2018 11:30:00 AM
What is going on swat?
-Malfunctioning rifles because they are at least 20 years old.
-Ten rifles issued to us that would have malfunctioned, like the one did at Mercy.
-Lieutenant that has been promoted beyond his capabilities.
-Number 2 that made 250k last year and is the one of worst operators on the team.
-OT initiatives that do zero but check a box.
-Poorly trained Instructors that lead to poorly trained swat officers.
-Hardly any training because we the new guys have to rotate and man three watches.
-Poorly maintained equipment and now the team is missing at least 10 firearms that were loaned to us by ERPS.
-Back stabbing between team members concerning overtime initiatives.
We all know
If the cards were turned around and the DINDU NUFFEN was the one hit by the train being chased by CHICAGO POLICE. This whole fuckin city be all up in flames. Let's face it JUSTICE IS DEAD in this great country. Better to be a criminal now a days. Not lying eather.............
To the idiot who asked “do you want to put 2 murders on this guy “. Man I don’t even know where to begin ! Put the murders on him ? Hey moron nobody made him pick up a gun and shoot it !!! He did it and he should be held accountable !!! He’s not a little kid he’s a grown man who’s actions directly brought those officers to those tracks ! How about this, please come to the 005th district roll call and we can have an open debate on the subject ! Oh and thanks for letting us know you are white when right now it’s all about being BLUE ...... TRU-4-EVR
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Absolutely dispicable that MURDER charges weren’t sought against the offender. There are laws in place when offenders unlawful actions (Called Accountability) lead to deadly incidents like this tragic event. Once again Kim Foxx anti-police and Toni Preckwinkle stead fast and consistent with soft on crime. Fuck You both. We as an FOP must stick together for a very important cause and spread the word to have these disgraceful clowns in office replaced. Public servants my Ass!!!!
12/20/2018 04:13:00 PM
What your saying about the accountability statute in this case is just plain wrong. The claims of the FOP in this instance are not consistent with the law. It sucks that these officers and their families or not getting some sort of justice from this tragedy, but the Felony Murder rule and the law of accountabilty just do not apply with the circumstances as they are now known. We can only blame the law as written, we can’t blame those who carry out its enforcement.
UST what is it going to take to get you all to understand that when Kim says there are too many people of color in jail she means it. Stop all the bitching and do something constructive about it. Find and back and fund a candidates to defeat her and her kind at next election. Better start now to build a war chest. Because that is what the city is in war. Most do not realize yet but they will.
Yes I do want this offender to be held accountable. Just like I want every other offender held accountable. Just like the police are accountable. Actions have consequences. His actions, firing a weapon, resulted in a police response which resulted in their deaths. He needs to be held accountable. Police don’t patrol train tracks. They were up there investigating “shots fired.” Like other posters pointed out if the “offender” was killed by the train while police were in pursuit they would want the police fired, charged and there would be a pending lawsuit. But somehow we’re supposed to accept that this was a terrible accident and the offender didn’t mean any harm. This kid is going to end up with possible probation for actions which resulted in death of two people. Unfuckingbelievable.
At this point, I'm beginning to like the idea of a foot pursuit policy including factors when to terminate it. Society doesn't stand behind us. I know we have many supporters, but many of them stay silent and vote the wrong (leftist) way. My thoughts are respond, cut paper, arrest on complaints signed while captured on BWC, eat and repeat. That is all for the large percentage of ingrates of our society.
What is going on swat?
-Malfunctioning rifles because they are at least 20 years old.
-Ten rifles issued to us that would have malfunctioned, like the one did at Mercy.
-Lieutenant that has been promoted beyond his capabilities.
-Number 2 that made 250k last year and is the one of worst operators on the team.
-OT initiatives that do zero but check a box.
-Poorly trained Instructors that lead to poorly trained swat officers.
-Hardly any training because we the new guys have to rotate and man three watches.
-Poorly maintained equipment and now the team is missing at least 10 firearms that were loaned to us by ERPS.
-Back stabbing between team members concerning overtime initiatives.
Did that M4 or any of the other 10 misfire or jam during their training?
Hey listen, I don't enjoy being the contrarian here, but you really want to put 2 homicides of cops on this guy? I know that's the law, and I know Crimesha is a fucking racially -oriented liberal clown, I get it. But you want a kid who fired a gun and ran from the police to be put in prison for the next 100 years? I don't know. People run when they commit crimes, that's what they do. Sorry, that's how I feel about this. And I'm a long-time cop on the CPD and I'm white.
Yes I would like to see him in prison for the next 100 years! It’s called making an example of someone, like what is being done to police officers across the country. Maybe if word gets around that you will actually go to fucking prison for causing the death of a police officer maybe, just maybe, some dipshit will think twice about whatever dumbass idea they have...
The reality is that this dipshit will get probation. In the unlikely event he does any jail time, he will probably be hailed as a hero for taking out 2 in blue and now you will have created a career criminal!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What the hell is going on at swat?
Same thing that’s been going on at SWAT for years
Evidently you are new to SCC as SCC has been documenting it all along from the training, equipment, the member who was hospitalized from the beating during training and the sgts
Anonymous Anonymous said...
was he a felon with gun and known gang member? Why not add that to charges. Someone check bullets in clip bet his fingerprints are on the bullets. If so question where and when he bought the ammo, they are sure to have video, bet he is not on that video. You want him charged with more do the legwork.
Maybe read the news or watch the press conferences. He had no prior arrest
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What the hell is going on at swat?
https://chicago.cbslocal.com/2018/12/19/marcy-hospital-chicago-fop-shooting-swat/
12/20/2018 11:30:00 AM
10 rifles were issued and found to be defective. Swat is also missing 8 handguns and one shotgun. IAD investigating.
12/20/2018 05:46:00 PM
Why weren’t the 10 found to be defective prior to the Mercy incident?. Doesn’t SWAT have an armorer who checks them out? Were they test fired and did they jam?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
SCC,
Things are really bad on swat. It’s hit or miss if we get a rifle that works. We hardly train and when we do it’s horrible.
It’s obvious our team is in very bad shape. We are being threatened not to reveal what is really going on over here. Now we are rotating watches every period. Not what I signed up for.
Hardly train? thought that how you spend most of your time because it’s necessary. FOP. stated the rifles fire 6,000 to 10,000 rounds
Hey listen, I don't enjoy being the contrarian here, but you really want to put 2 homicides of cops on this guy? I know that's the law, and I know Crimesha is a fucking racially -oriented liberal clown, I get it. But you want a kid who fired a gun and ran from the police to be put in prison for the next 100 years? I don't know. People run when they commit crimes, that's what they do. Sorry, that's how I feel about this. And I'm a long-time cop on the CPD and I'm white.
Then shame on the Police Department releasing the press info that this guy was charged in connection to the two officers that died. Either he had something to do with it and charge him accordingly or he didn’t so it’s not related.
Had a bad knee Injury while wrestling with guy trying to place him in custody, said injury put me out of work for almost a year. Felony charges denied, misdemeanor resisting arrest. Even the judge was baffled as to why this wasn't felony resisting after watching the BWC.
Just an ignorant racist
https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/preckwinkle-fundraising-email-seeks-to-capitalize-on-cyntoia-brown-case/Content?oid=65441729
Joanna Klonsky who was a senior strategist for Cabrini Kim is also the pr person for the leftist city hall progressive caucus headed by arena and Scott Waguespack which also includes Sophia king, friends with Prickwinkle and who made foxx. Kong’s dj ethically challenged husband is now in cop hating raoul’s Transition team.
The progressive caucus of the city council is all anti cop and Klonsky’s own family has deep roots in the communist party. Look at Michael and Fred Klonsky. Klonsky started Chicago votes whose mission is open borders and illegal alien voting rights. They are all involved with the rights of violent prisoners. Klonskys friend lesbian activist Jen Sebella started the pro BLM, anti cop progressive block club rag which writes nonsense against anyone who cop hater arena tells them to. They are also for rent Control and section 8 in the 45th Ward. It’s sad that these anti American scum are allowed to play this game and get away with it. Klonsky is also a senior strategist for cop hating racist lesbian activist Lori Lightfoot. These people must be stopped and exposed.
This just makes me sick to my stomach, 2 officers were killed by this pos, even if he did just find the gun.... umm that gives you the right to test it out in a obviously unsafe area? umm how about if he was a decent human he would have called the police and said he found this weapon and could someone come and pick it up to be disposed of properly??? umm no he is a pile of shit career offender who is just looking to try and get off of being charged with anything related to these great officer's deaths. He should be waiting to get fried on death row for what he caused, not trying to get out of it.
Hey listen, I don't enjoy being the contrarian here, but you really want to put 2 homicides of cops on this guy? I know that's the law, and I know Crimesha is a fucking racially -oriented liberal clown, I get it. But you want a kid who fired a gun and ran from the police to be put in prison for the next 100 years? I don't know. People run when they commit crimes, that's what they do. Sorry, that's how I feel about this. And I'm a long-time cop on the CPD and I'm white.
12/20/2018 09:52:00 AM
Riddle me this Long-Time CPD White Cop:
If he had not been firing a handgun up on the RR tracks, do you think the two police officers might be alive today, maybe even rdo and enjoying life with their families?
Or, do you think he was just funnin, clownin and/or goofin? And, he is not responsible?
Or, do you think he is responsible, but the punishment is too severe in this situation?
Please impart your wisdom.
The whole point is that the offender can not be charged with the officers death, I Imagine the engineer was interviewed about what he saw before the officers were struck and in addition the train cameras along with the body cameras were viewed and if it is determined they were just walking/running on or by the rails before they were struck then it is an accident. If the cameras show that they were actively chasing the offender before they were struck then he could be charged in their deaths....apparently the video shows something that we are not aware of but it wasn’t enough to charge the offender with the officers death.
12/20/2018 09:15:00 PM
So there is a difference in your mind between looking for the offender, walking towards the offender, running after the offender and chasing the offender all on the RR tracks when the officers were ONLY on the RR tracks because they were told there was someone up there discharging a firearm?
You are a real beauty.
Even though the officers were there
So how you going to stop or expose them. How about a billboard along the Kennedy, only state actual facts or web site to outline in great detail what these people are. But be sure of information and facts because they will sue to stop it. How about showing up at their rallies and ask questions they don't want asked. But be sure to have video ôf any negative confrontation for your counter suits.
Should have been charged with reckless homicide at the least.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey listen, I don't enjoy being the contrarian here, but you really want to put 2 homicides of cops on this guy? I know that's the law, and I know Crimesha is a fucking racially -oriented liberal clown, I get it. But you want a kid who fired a gun and ran from the police to be put in prison for the next 100 years? I don't know. People run when they commit crimes, that's what they do. Sorry, that's how I feel about this. And I'm a long-time cop on the CPD and I'm white.
12/20/2018 09:52:00 AM
Riddle me this Long-Time CPD White Cop:
If he had not been firing a handgun up on the RR tracks, do you think the two police officers might be alive today, maybe even rdo and enjoying life with their families?
Or, do you think he was just funnin, clownin and/or goofin? And, he is not responsible?
Or, do you think he is responsible, but the punishment is too severe in this situation?
Please impart your wisdom.
12/21/2018 07:33:00 PM
There is currently no Illinois law which would make this guy legally responsible for these Officers deaths based on the circumstances.
Anonymous said...
The whole point is that the offender can not be charged with the officers death, I Imagine the engineer was interviewed about what he saw before the officers were struck and in addition the train cameras along with the body cameras were viewed and if it is determined they were just walking/running on or by the rails before they were struck then it is an accident. If the cameras show that they were actively chasing the offender before they were struck then he could be charged in their deaths....apparently the video shows something that we are not aware of but it wasn’t enough to charge the offender with the officers death.
12/20/2018 09:15:00 PM
So there is a difference in your mind between looking for the offender, walking towards the offender, running after the offender and chasing the offender all on the RR tracks when the officers were ONLY on the RR tracks because they were told there was someone up there discharging a firearm?
You are a real beauty.
Even though the officers were there
12/21/2018 07:49:00 PM
Yes Einstein I know what I’m talking about.... most of us detectives know what the laws are and how to apply them when they are applicable and don’t jump to conclusions like some officers do who don’t know as much as we do.
So maybe you should study the ILCS some more then maybe you can talk to me.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey listen, I don't enjoy being the contrarian here, but you really want to put 2 homicides of cops on this guy? I know that's the law, and I know Crimesha is a fucking racially -oriented liberal clown, I get it. But you want a kid who fired a gun and ran from the police to be put in prison for the next 100 years? I don't know. People run when they commit crimes, that's what they do. Sorry, that's how I feel about this. And I'm a long-time cop on the CPD and I'm white.
12/20/2018 09:52:00 AM
Riddle me this Long-Time CPD White Cop:
If he had not been firing a handgun up on the RR tracks, do you think the two police officers might be alive today, maybe even rdo and enjoying life with their families?
Or, do you think he was just funnin, clownin and/or goofin? And, he is not responsible?
Or, do you think he is responsible, but the punishment is too severe in this situation?
Please impart your wisdom.
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why don't you riddle me this oh fucking wise one. What if you get pulled over for a ticket by a state trooper and he gets hit by a semi as he walks to your fucking car. How about we put you in fucking handcuffs and lock you up for 100 years.
So how's that fucking riddle?
Or maybe change it up a bit, and it's your teenage daughter that got pulled over. You like fucking riddles so fucking much now?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Should have been charged with reckless homicide at the least.
12/21/2018 08:47:00 PM
Read that statute and you will see the circumstances of this incident do not fit that crime either.
Riddle me this Long-Time CPD White Cop:
If he had not been firing a handgun up on the RR tracks, do you think the two police officers might be alive today, maybe even rdo and enjoying life with their families?
Or, do you think he was just funnin, clownin and/or goofin? And, he is not responsible?
Or, do you think he is responsible, but the punishment is too severe in this situation?
Please impart your wisdom.
Not agreeing with the logic but if a guy is beating his wife and the police are called and arrive on the scene. As they exit their car they get hit by oncoming traffic. Does the guy beating his wife get charged with two counts of murder with your logic if the guy wasn’t beating his wife the officers would be alive. You being a long time white hat, if you pulled over a speeder and stepped out of your car to write the citation and were struck and killed by another motorists, would the driver you pulled over be charged with murder.
Not agreeing with the logic but if a guy is beating his wife and the police are called and arrive on the scene. As they exit their car they get hit by oncoming traffic. Does the guy beating his wife get charged with two counts of murder with your logic if the guy wasn’t beating his wife the officers would be alive. You being a long time white hat, if you pulled over a speeder and stepped out of your car to write the citation and were struck and killed by another motorists, would the driver you pulled over be charged with murder.
12/22/2018 03:19:00 PM
Two very different situations with very different circumstances than what occurred on the RR tracks.
The wife-beater question can be written with more serious elements making it a situation where the wife-beater could be charged with the death of a police officer. Does the wife die or is near death? Does the wife beater flee? Is he armed? Is the police officer struck and killed by a vehicle while actively pursuing the offender and/or murderer? Is Crimesha in a good mood or a hater mood? Did she get a call from Bullshrinkle telling her to leave it alone? Lots of things come into play.
With the white hat question, as written, the motorist is not eligible to be charged with the death of the police officer.
Read that statute and you will see the circumstances of this incident do not fit that crime either.
12/22/2018 10:14:00 AM
Involuntary manslaughter?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just an ignorant racist
https://www.chicagoreader.com/chicago/preckwinkle-fundraising-email-seeks-to-capitalize-on-cyntoia-brown-case/Content?oid=65441729
12/21/2018 12:35:00 PM
Preckwinkle is a disgusting racist pig. Here's a quote from the article: "This isn't just a failing of Tennessee's criminal justice system," Preckwinkle writes. "It also paints a harrowing picture of systemic white supremacy in America." She points to famous recent examples of white men getting away with crimes-"Stanford rapist" Brock Turner and "affluenza" drunk driver Ethan Couch.
...
"Maybe young Black women like Cyntoia aren't the problem-maybe it's the policies we've put in place that set them up for failure," she writes. "We can no longer stand by and allow this to happen to people like Cyntoia who've been silenced and betrayed by a broken judicial system. And I vow to do everything in my power to fix it. But the truth is, I can't do it alone. We need to get elected first, then we need to continue building our movement."
Funny, who is getting away with murder in Chicago if 70% of homicides are committed by blacks and the clearance rate is 8%??? Asians?
Toni, you alone are a movement.
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