All Caught Up!
- Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel is taking note of a milestone. Success in his pledge to add 1,000 new police officers by the end of the year. But is it enough? The police union doesn’t think so.
Chicago police welcomed 67 new recruits, the second to last class of the year. And with it, achievement of a goal by Mayor Emanuel. “Each of you represent our two year journey of growing CPD by over 1,000 police officers,” said Chicago Police Superintendent Eddie Johnson.
A mission City Hall claims he has now accomplished. Two years ago, Chicago police had 12,114 sworn officers. Today, it’s 13,319. Emanuel said with the additional personnel has come additional supervision for street cops.
We know the seniority to get days dropped by half in many places, so there's evidently some new hires out there somewhere. There also seems to be a massive expansion in inside spots, HQ spots, CAPS spots, and quite a few other places that hadn't been manned during the "austerity" times.
We still haven't seen a rapid response car up in about five years. 020 and 017 are downing beat cars on a regular basis on two different watches. 016 and 022 don't even have a midnight watch for all intents and purposes.
How about we see how many beat cars are up (or down) on a daily basis?
We still haven't seen a rapid response car up in about five years. 020 and 017 are downing beat cars on a regular basis on two different watches. 016 and 022 don't even have a midnight watch for all intents and purposes.
How about we see how many beat cars are up (or down) on a daily basis?
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
51 Comments:
Let the cockroaches in headquarters come out and see the light.
So are we back to 13,500 again?
Asking for a friend...
F you rahm, you little POS! You have done more to destroy CPD then even Daley and Daley had over 20 years. What is even more aggravating is that you have the gall to get up at that podium last night and shed your croc0dile tears. You can't leave soon enough!
Does this mean they will no longer cancel days off on 4th of July, Memorial Day etc.... since we all caught up now ?
My west coast city brass regularly put patrol under minimums to staff "missions" mostly with young eager coppers. Missions are actually forced proactive policing that might occur if patrol wasn't at minimums, but in reality likely wouldn't because 2018. Not sure if the brass is crazy or crazy like a fox.
A mission City Hall claims he has now accomplished. Two years ago, Chicago police had 12,114 sworn officers. Today, it’s 13,319. Emanuel said with the additional personnel has come additional supervision for street cops.
That is 9.5's fuzzy math. If he were telling the truth he would have included the retirement, promotion, resignation, discharge and deceased numbers versus the new hires. The little guy just cannot help lying even as he walks out the door. He believes he is one slippery emmeffer because the media never calls him on his lies. See ya nine and a half, I hope the door hits you in the ass because a boot to your ass is richly deserved. Shalom, adios, sayonara, ciao, bye-bye and get the fuck out of here asap.
For half the city it’s to little to late. They have became victims of crime. That should never be OK!
To whoever the tact car was that had the mutt that was up to no good in the parking lot at Devon and Lincoln at 11am 18DEC, thank you sincerely, I saw you and I support you.
Does that thirteen thousand plus figure include officers on disability? And why did it take the latter part of Rahm's last term to reach a campaign promise made 7 years ago? Rahm knew he was not going for a third term when he saw the backlash, especially in the Black Community, following the court FORCING him to release the McDonald video. So now are we supposed to ignore all of the arguments that had been made by Rahm's Administration to NOT increase the number of Chicago Police Officers? The City's population is in decline; so how does the City justify increasing police personnel to levels of when the City had hundreds of thousands more residents, and more businesses and industry? Large numbers of property remain abandoned on the West and South sides of the City, areas that are currently NOT being re-developed. The Big Box retailers that moved into "Da Hood", are now fleeing "Da Hood". So, as with Everything Rahm; there is more here than meets the eye. Stay Safe! Baby "G"
Congratulations to the new recruits. Maybe some day they will actually be allowed to fight crime?
"Rapid Response Car"?
What the fuck is that? I haven't seen one of those since '05!
What’s the number of retirements?
How many leave each month? Seems they’re just treading water trying to keep up.
If they are not on the street how does it help?????
So are the numbers correct? If so then all areas must be back to where they were several years ago, right. If he did what he said he would do and actually added 1000 police then give him credit. No more RAP in any areas, arrests way up and crime way down. Right?
Spin!
What's the real net gain from hirees to retirees?????? I'll bet it's NOT 1,000.....
Just an odd thought about all that extra supervision: when you have (I believe) like 6 cars chasing Laquan around, officers who were on the radio giving location, asking for the taser, WHERE in Gods holy land was ANY supervisor to head his/her asss over there to SUPERVISE??
Did any supervisor ever offer "expertise" over the radio as to what to do with the "high on PCP" young lad? Just asking.......
The manpower in 016 and 017 is a joke. Dangerous for the citizens who live there and the coppers who are working street patrol. This is not a new revelation. Sending in a bunch of ppo's helps, but also poses it's own set of problems. We need seasoned veteran officers, open up some bid spots. 017 had 47 people shot this year and 8 homicides. Slow district but plenty of work to do if you want to go hunting.
Shuffling and promoting staff does equal 1,000 new hires. How many retirees or resignations ? He fails to mention that. Fuzzy math indeed. Just another democratic lie.
With the rapid rates of retirements the priority should be making sure pension is funded! The next should be a federal investigation on who freely gave away over 60 million of "our money" in that ponzi scheme of daleys nephew and his friend dv urban realty bullshit,and they took millions for themselves and they are not being prosecuted come on FBI besides indicting the criminal cabal of democratic leaders which is easy fruit to pick, it would be a Merry Christmas to see you at city hall and county building for a start!
Wait what is this another rahm failure:
Ricketts family so angry with Emanuel over Wrigley, they considered moving team
https://chicago.suntimes.com/business/cubs-ricketts-wrigley-field-renovations-wrigleyville-contruction-rahm-emanuel-moving-team/
Excerpt:
“I just hate the thought of [Cubs Chairman] Tom [Ricketts] having to grovel to this guy to put money into a building we already own,” Todd Ricketts reportedly wrote.
Family patriarch Joe Ricketts replied, “Yes Todd, it makes me sad, it hurts my feelings to see Tom treated this way. He is way superior to the Mayor in every way. I have been brought up to deplore the type of value system adopted by the Mayor of Chicago. This is stating it mildly.”
Ricketts family spokesman Dennis Culloton acknowledged the veracity of what he called the “private stolen emails.”
“Reading those private stolen emails is a reminder that there was an arduous process at the time as the debate went on, how best to save Wrigley Field,” Culloton said.
Hmm when rahm lied about a police code of silence,do you think he really meant to say he has a "political code of silence?" You also have to delve into why the ballerina who has servants at his feet everyday would think about stepping down,have the feds finally been steeping up and rahm and many of the rest know it is getting hot as they resign also? Wonder how much Ricketts was forced to "donate" they have money and it will all be exposed soon!
If we have so many police where are they at? Beat cars down! Mass transit a ghost town! Guess the truth is "figures lie and liars figure!"
How many are hiding inside , assigned to clerical duties of a civilian .
Since working in the CAPS office the past four years I have had to work a beat car three times because of a shortage of watch manpower and I’m getting tried of it.
CAPS needs me and they should start looking elsewhere for manpower.
017 3rd watch can barely put up the minimum. High taxes low service.
Car 54, where are you?
Let the cockroaches in headquarters come out and see the light.
You know it's more like the roach motel where they check in but don't check out, at least until they either get promoted or retire.
“Two years ago, Chicago police had 12,114 sworn officers. Today, it’s 13,319*.”
*Actual District Outdoor Beat and Radio, BWC Equipped Assignment personnel may vary. The information should NOT be used as gospel on the word of an inappropriately, unqualified law enforcement agency or Triple Merit Exemption Rank, it’s Superintendent and meddling political influencers, not limited to any chickenshit failure and quitter Mayor.
KEEP in mind all those exempts smile and back the lie!
They will have you indicted.
They will leak your info to the press.
They will make sure to kill your pension while trying to fire you.
Take the twins indictments and notice no fricking email from special ED about the tough time of the department. Look for Ed to try and speed up promotions.
Bring on Captain FENNER
So, if 017 is so short on the watch, why did I see, not one, not two, but five bicycle officers peddling away together from the station the other day? This was on 2nd Watch. I'm sure the cars were not fully manned (rapids, wagons, etc.). If they were, then they have more than enough if they can put up 5 bike guys.
Maybe 017 should look at their CAPS office ... way way too many desk dollies doing nothing in there .
Anonymous said...
A mission City Hall claims he has now accomplished. Two years ago, Chicago police had 12,114 sworn officers. Today, it’s 13,319. Emanuel said with the additional personnel has come additional supervision for street cops.
That is 9.5's fuzzy math. If he were telling the truth he would have included the retirement, promotion, resignation, discharge and deceased numbers versus the new hires. The little guy just cannot help lying even as he walks out the door. He believes he is one slippery emmeffer because the media never calls him on his lies. See ya nine and a half, I hope the door hits you in the ass because a boot to your ass is richly deserved. Shalom, adios, sayonara, ciao, bye-bye and get the fuck out of here asap.
12/19/2018 12:48:00 AM
Not sure he’s doing the fuzzy math. If you had 12,14 then and you have 13,319 now that’s an increase of 1,205 sworn personnel plain and simple
If a year ago you had 400 officers in a district and today you have 500 it doesn’t matter who retired, died, resigned etc you still have an increase of 100.
If you have 13,000 sworn and you promote 1,000 you still have 13,000 , only 1000 of those will be of a higher rank. You don’t subtract the 1000
12/19/2018 02:44:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What’s the number of retirements?
How many leave each month? Seems they’re just treading water trying to keep up.
Simply put, not true. Retirements have remained constant for the last 20 years. Goes from around 450 to a high of around 600. Check with the pension , they have the numbers and list them. It’s no secret
Not sure if anyone else has ever noticed but they will invite media for large classes to the academy and report that as "xx new recruits" and then six months later they will report "xx new officer graduated from the academy and are on the streets" and a year after that, they will say "xx newly appointed officers" by that math they added "xx+xx+xx" making it seem like they are adding officers left and right. They have added officers but are still double counting a few classes to make 9.5 look good.
Pimps don’t cry says.... how many are double counted? We had people detailed out for years still listed in district.
Anonymous said...
Just an odd thought about all that extra supervision: when you have (I believe) like 6 cars chasing Laquan around, officers who were on the radio giving location, asking for the taser, WHERE in Gods holy land was ANY supervisor to head his/her asss over there to SUPERVISE??
Did any supervisor ever offer "expertise" over the radio as to what to do with the "high on PCP" young lad? Just asking.......
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You do realize that McDonald was shot about 5 years ago....when manpower was at it's thinnest due to McCarthy's "more with less" attitude and Rahm's manpower cuts?
To me the biggest joke about manpower is that the media types swallow Rahm...errr swallow Rahm’s propaganda, hook, line, ans sinker.
To 4:06 pm
Yes, I know when he was shot......I know that now there are more and more "high-command" supervisors out there, lotta merit doublers and triplers.......
The point was : you can have LOTS of supervisors out there, but if they DONT show up or offer supervision via radio, it don't matter how many you have....
And that's what I was asking.....after the 40/50 minutes of chasing the PCP-laden knife-wielding "young man" around, DID ANY SUPERVISOR EVER SHOW UP ON THE SCENE BEFORE THE SHOOTING.??? Did ANY SUPERVISOR ever offer advice via radio to those coppers out there? LM Had assaulted one man, stabbed the tires on a police car, running around with a weapon......where were the supervisors that night? I highly doubt that there weren't any field supervisors on duty that night, no matter how thin manpower was back then.
And as a secondary point: though politically incorrect: TOO MANY CHIEFS, NOT Enough Indians.....(and if the bosses can't pass the tests righteously, to get their promotions, what kind of advice are they going to be giving out?) when one has to bypass 2000 names to get a person "by merit" what are you really getting?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just an odd thought about all that extra supervision: when you have (I believe) like 6 cars chasing Laquan around, officers who were on the radio giving location, asking for the taser, WHERE in Gods holy land was ANY supervisor to head his/her asss over there to SUPERVISE??
Did any supervisor ever offer "expertise" over the radio as to what to do with the "high on PCP" young lad? Just asking.......
12/19/2018 07:32:00 AM
How many were working that night? Its not unusual for only one sergeant to be on the street covering the entire district.
You do realize that McDonald was shot about 5 years ago....when manpower was at it's thinnest due to McCarthy's "more with less" attitude and Rahm's manpower cuts?
12/19/2018 04:06:00 PM
You do realize there were 6 to 8 cars on the scene. You are blaming this on lack of manpower?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If we have so many police where are they at? Beat cars down! Mass transit a ghost town! Guess the truth is "figures lie and liars figure!"
12/19/2018 09:24:00 AM
Open your eyes. Look in the front offices or every district and unit. Look at CAPS. ET section? they made et’s and half went right inside
Just a few examples. Everyone has there own examples except tou
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If we have so many police where are they at? Beat cars down! Mass transit a ghost town! Guess the truth is "figures lie and liars figure!"
12/19/2018 09:24:00 AM
Guess you have never been to headquarters or the academy
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What’s the number of retirements?
How many leave each month? Seems they’re just treading water trying to keep up.
12/19/2018 05:21:00 AM
Call the pension board. Or read their annual report and newsletters They tell you how many sworn are employed and paying into the pension and list the number of monthly retirements. Call your representative at the pension board, they have the numbers, it’s no secret
People seem to forget that when Rahm first became mayor he eliminated 2000 budgeted spots from the department. So, actually we are still missing 1000 police officers. Where is the media on his out right lies.
Not sure he’s doing the fuzzy math. If you had 12,14 then and you have 13,319 now that’s an increase of 1,205 sworn personnel plain and simple
If a year ago you had 400 officers in a district and today you have 500 it doesn’t matter who retired, died, resigned etc you still have an increase of 100.
If you have 13,000 sworn and you promote 1,000 you still have 13,000 , only 1000 of those will be of a higher rank. You don’t subtract the 1000
12/19/2018 02:46:00 PM
You must be 9.5 or his chief of staff or you are wearing blinders.
In Year 2011 after he became Mayor, 9.5 drastically reduced our strength. With the recent hires he might of added a couple of hundred to the 2011 reduced number, but the majority of the hires within the last year were replacements for the number having left for reasons we all know. He did not ADD one-thousand to our strength. He made "an increase to the decreased number", but it was not 1,000 to our number previous to 2011. He's using fuzzy math and if you are not 9.5, you have been bamboozled.
Simply put, not true. Retirements have remained constant for the last 20 years. Goes from around 450 to a high of around 600. Check with the pension , they have the numbers and list them. It’s no secret
12/19/2018 02:49:00 PM
Okay, subtract 450 to 600 from 9.5's "added" one-thousand in the last year.
Is it clear to you? Simply stated, he did not hire an "additional" one-thousand officers in the last year.
Then subtract 900 to 1200 from the last 2 years of hires.
Now take a look at our strength before Year 2011 and after Year 2011.
He might have made a minimal increase to the decreased number of Year 2011.
9.5 practices fuzzy math.
If you have 13,000 sworn and you promote 1,000 you still have 13,000 , only 1000 of those will be of a higher rank. You don’t subtract the 1000
12/19/2018 02:46:00 PM
You are using fuzzy math to fortify your position.
You have not "added" 1,000 to the higher ranks. You must subtract the number of management in each rank that retired, were promoted, resigned for reasons other than retirement, were discharged and those that died. Then you have your true number in each rank that can all be added together for your true strength. Then compare your true strength number to the total strength number used previous to Year 2011 and the total strength number used post-Year 2011.
if you’re all worried about 020 or 017 you should see 001 second watch. pathetic
The bike officers you see riding around 017 are from the bike unit, not 017 manpower.
Nothing up my sleeve. Presto. It is all a slide of hands.
I have attached a breakdown of hiring, firing, promotions, retirement, etc. from 2007 through 2017. This is a fairly accurate breakdown of where we stand compared to 11 years ago at the rank of patrol officer. The numbers were obtained from the pension board and compared to media reports and departmental reports as well. I am not claiming the numbers to be 100% accurate but I would put the margin of error at +/- 2%.
Year Hired Left Dept. Sgt’s. Det’s Net Gain/Loss (P.O.)
2017 1067 621 153 243 +50
2016 514 552 191 0 -229
2015 441 456 31 144 -190
2014 315 431 182 44 -342
2013 585 406 0 69 +110
2012 451 570 129 0 -248
2011 50 475 0 0 -425
2010 169 553 30 0 -414
2009 129 262 30 0 -163
2008 128 454 74 15 -355
2007 393 441 85 10 -133
It is a fairly straightforward table. Under the "Left" column this includes everyone that quit, retired, resigned, or was fired. The "Sgt's" and "Det's" column are the number of people promoted to that rank. The "Net Gain/Loss" is what the Department gained or lost at the rank of patrol officer. I understand that there were other promotions at ranks that took individuals off the street such as E.T., Canine, etc. however those numbers are small and hence the margin of error mentioned.
2018 does not have final numbers in yet but preliminary numbers show a net gain of approximately 150 officers.
Not including 2018 the department stood at a net loss of 2339 officers from the beginning of 2007.
011 3 years ago on 3rd watch was able to fill every beat, mission, traffic, park, rapid and wagon on both starts.
Now you're lucky to get a traffic car, usually filled with someone buddy who does no traffic and runs errands all evening and ducks out early.
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