Eighty-One Months
- A Cook County judge on Friday sentenced ex-Chicago Police Officer Jason Van Dyke to more than six years in prison for the murder of 17-year-old Laquan McDonald in 2014.
Judge Vincent Gaughan sentenced Van Dyke to 81 months in prison, only on the charge of second-degree murder. Gaughan chose not to sentence Van Dyke on the aggravated battery charges, which carried more serious time and cut Van Dyke a serious break.
With good behavior, Van Dyke would serve about half his prison sentence.
And right on cue, the usual suspects are up in arms, demonstrating promptly and thoroughly their complete ignorance where the law is concerned.
- Activist Will Calloway, who played a role in bringing the now infamous video of the shooting to light, said: “It’s a slap in the face to say black lives don’t matter in this criminal courthouse.”
“We want to heal . . . We want to be able to create better relationships between law enforcement and the black community,” Calloway said.
No you don't. Stop lying. No one cared about this kid until there was the possibility of a payday - which Rahm gave up to the tune of $5 million. Politicians across Chicago flocked to offer their carefully crafted opinions that they believed would garner them the most votes from the perpetually aggrieved. He was a Ward of the State because no one in the family or community could be bothered to step up - one of thousands currently bouncing through the system. How many times did McDonald overnight at his uncle's church? How many times did Calloway offer him a bed? Mom didn't even bother to show up in court.
Van Dyke was sentenced no better and no worse than a few hundred individuals who were convicted of similar charges. But he'll be used as often and as pathetically as Burge was - a constant boogieman used to frighten children and maintain the chasm of mistrust sought after by innumerable activists and politicians for their own financial and power-grasping ends.
That being said, be very very aware and vigilant over the next few days, weeks, even months. There are going to be incidents and provocations. We'd suggest extra special attention up north where the spree killer struck twice executing pedestrians on the street. Being fetal doesn't mean being ignorant of your surroundings.
Van Dyke was sentenced no better and no worse than a few hundred individuals who were convicted of similar charges. But he'll be used as often and as pathetically as Burge was - a constant boogieman used to frighten children and maintain the chasm of mistrust sought after by innumerable activists and politicians for their own financial and power-grasping ends.
That being said, be very very aware and vigilant over the next few days, weeks, even months. There are going to be incidents and provocations. We'd suggest extra special attention up north where the spree killer struck twice executing pedestrians on the street. Being fetal doesn't mean being ignorant of your surroundings.
Labels: safety issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
197 Comments:
The only thing that aggravated me today was Patti Ex-first lady Blago.
She compared a hard working cop to a STUPID politician, who did not know when to shut up
As Patti should have been indicted, and would have been if not for the kids.
Time to STFU now.
And thanks for your sister.
Not one news outlet showed the "community activists" chanting "I hope you die" and I hope you get rapped" as the JVD children left the building.
CPD shot under 20 a-holes last year while the community shot around 3,000. Yup, the police are the problem and the community don't trust ya'll... To the community that causes ALL of the problems and doesn't trust the police... go fu@k yourselves
They say it's a slap in the face...or a slap on the wrist. But what about all of the jagoffs murderes that Kim FOXX refuses to prosecute? Everyone, feel free to add this into your conversations, I just attended a wedding and it worked well on civilians who had no idea.
SCC, I penned this after reading the Trib article about the jurors a few days ago and thinking about the Officers and everything else going on.
We are Doomed!
When the cowardly and self righteous sit in judgment of the humble and brave, We are Doomed!
When the brave men and women of this Great Country put the uniform on, leave their families, and go out to protect and defend their Country, State, County, and City yet are criticized, judged, punished, and dismissed for making split second decisions that would have never entered the mind of the average citizen, We are Doomed!
When ignorance and stupidity are celebrated, promoted, and held in high esteem, We are Doomed!
When good men and women are demonized and locked away for facing down the evil prowling the world in the dark of night, We are Doomed!
When evildoers are portrayed as victims and victims as evildoers, We are Doomed!
When the voices of the lazy, apathetic, and obdurate pilfering the fiscal and moral treasures of society hold more credence and significance then the voices of the industrious, principled, and hard-working, We are Doomed!
We are Doomed!!!
I watch a dog and pony show today. And it makes me angry.
And in the end we lost a man. We threw him under the political mess.
His family is now scarred, his friends deserted him. His profession was ruined.
All because he did something that he thought he was the right thing to do.
And all because a kid who decided he was invincible and could do what ever he wanted to do.
This kid died at the hands of this man and now became a martyr.
So now we lost a kid who was not smart enough to want to live any longer.
And we lost a man taking action when he should have walked away and let someone else handle it.
To look at this and say this has not effected me is wrong to say. It has messed me up. And probably others.
I was not there. But,
May god have mercy on the kid. Because that’s the Christian thing to do.
May god look over this man in the path he must travel now. Since everyone must get a second chance.
And may god direct me in the path of doing what is right when it is my time to make a decision?
When I was young I was invincible. But with age I have become fearful......
Although he’s going to serve at least two years, maybe less considering time already served, this was the best case scenario. If he would have gotten only probation the “community”, I’m sorry, piece of shit assholes, would’ve protested, rioted and raised hell. Now these activists won’t be able to put their names on anything because JVD was sentence to prison. Speaking of which, this isn’t going to be a full 81 month sentence. I give it until 2021 for him to get out and try and get his life back to some kind of normalcy. Guarantee you that he moves the fuck out of this god forsaken city.
Another win is the judge stopped that bullshit of a charge of Agg Batt per shot...please what a joke from the start.
Stay safe, watch yours and your partner’s 6, and FUCK YOU RAHM!
Let your conscience be your guide!
Where do these so called Bs activists get the money ,to be activists ,,,,
the reverends were in attendance as always,,, shithole Chicago sucks
How did Sheriff Dart get away with firing Van Dykes wife on the first day of training in the academy to become a jail C/O. Has she filed a suit? That is blatant discrimination.You can't penalize someone because they are related to a convicted felon. Dart should know better, he's a lawyer right.
If you have a family with kids, the first thing you do at the start of the tour is tape a picture of those kids on your dashboard and then start your tour. Drill it through your skulls what matter's. Stop chasing in cars and on foot. Glance at those faces throughout the tour, it might change your work perspective.
Very well said SCC! No mention of the genocide that is black on black crime. Now I know that I am the problem and will have nothing to do with stopping it. The next stop is a racist mayor. When the new mayor wakes up with 700-800 murders a year, maybe my sisters, brothers and I will asked to be part of the solution. God, why did I take this job when all I wanted to do is help people?
Lighfoot, Perkwinkle, Daly, Mendoza, and almost every other mayoral candidate says Van Dyke sentence is way to lenient and he needed to be sentenced to more years in prison. Just so I’m clear on this, all these people are now for longer prison sentences? Do I have that right?
kid was knocked around in The System since he was 3.
14 years later his exit cost $5M.
super blood wolf moon bodes ill this weekend
Once again we will be inundated with calls of justice and reform. None will offer that same mentality for the hundreds murdered each year or the thousands shot in this city. When those things happen we are met always with a "that's not the point" argument by those who lack common sense or are blinded by truth. We will hear about Van Dyke for the next 3+ years and how he "got away" with murder despite only being found guilty of second degree murder which normally for such an offense with no background would carry probation. However, cops are unfortunately on a different playing field as everyone else at 26th and California but you wouldn't know that by reading the headlines which dare to scream of unfair treatment but not for the reality but for the fantasy world in which these journalists all live.
The judge took care of him! Could have been much worse!
The testimony given by his wife during the closing arguments was remarkable. What a tough lady.
I don’t care what anyone says. This is a resounding victory for JVD. He got very lucky. We can all say that he shouldn’t have been charged which may be true. But fast forward to reality.. he did. He and his family and most of us believed he was going to be sacrificed to anywhere from 30-60 years for this at 85 percent on the agg bat sentences. Instead he’s out in exactly 3 years due to second degree murder being only 50 percent and he has about 4 months time served now. He will be out in 3 short years. Wow. Wow. Wow.
This is a great week. I would like to thank both judges for being fair and following the law. Neither caved to political pressure and that’s not easy in Chicago. I hope everyone who agrees with them will make sure to vote next time and don’t let them lose their jobs because of this.
This was the judge's plan all along.
With this sentence by judge I wonder if he was a not guilty if they went with a bench trial ?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I don’t care what anyone says. This is a resounding victory for JVD. He got very lucky. We can all say that he shouldn’t have been charged which may be true. But fast forward to reality.. he did. He and his family and most of us believed he was going to be sacrificed to anywhere from 30-60 years for this at 85 percent on the agg bat sentences. Instead he’s out in exactly 3 years due to second degree murder being only 50 percent and he has about 4 months time served now. He will be out in 3 short years. Wow. Wow. Wow.
1/19/2019 03:46:00 AM
The prosecutor McMahon was very humble too after the sentencing when speaking to the media. He didn’t preach about the injustice of the criminal justice system or whine how JVD should have been charged with the 16 aggravated battery counts. This guy wanted 90 years for Van Dyke!
Although I do agree, this is a victory for JVD. His wife recognized this gift and thanked the judge for his leniency.
Now get your shine box!
"CPD shot under 20 a-holes last year while the community shot around 3,000. Yup, the police are the problem and the community don't trust ya'll... To the community that causes ALL of the problems and doesn't trust the police... go fu@k yourselves"
I would like to add my "GO FUCK YOURSELVES" to the list.
Had this shooting not happened, how long would this throw away kid managed to avoid hurting or killing someone and become a another useless burden to society?
And suddenly the activists and community have an issue with sentencing, ignoring the criminal members of their community who are in and out of the Kim Fox revolving door of justice, always free again to prey on the next victim.
Excellent post, Scc.
Will Calloway is an opportunist. Not no fucking activist. He is a loud mouth who is trying to capitalize on the Laquan McDonald tragedy. First he ran for state representative and out of like 7 candidates he came in dead last. Hahahaha. Now he is running for alderman.
Christy Weber and Company and now Patti cake are in disbelief over JVD sentenced under "7" years! well just forget about Blagos and Company Elvis isn't coming home anytime soon! that million dollar thief isn't coming home any time soon!
Thank you Judge Gaughan for handing out a reasonable sentence.
P.S. I still think you are a showboater and an all around jagoff.
Don't foot chase,don't car chase,don't stop anyone. This is a new world and a new police. WE CAN BE THE CHANGE, thats what the Department wants. Be safe and God Bless
The dropping of the Agg Batt charges was done to throw water on an appeal. Multi Agg Batt charges would have show over prosecution period. Still hope there is an appeal for the poor bastard.
Right on SCC, your last three paragraphs were excellent and your caution up north is worth thinking about, guys n gals.
I pray for JVD and CPD
Officers, guys and gals? Please consider your sidearm as a defensive tool to be used to protect - yourself.
BE THE CHANGE. Thats what the Department wants. Don't foot chase,don't car chase,don't stop anyone. Be safe and God Bless
As we all know, his life will never be the same ! We can all easily observe the distraught and agony in his face. As cliche as it sounds, just answer the dam radio and be safe.
Community activists are the truly useful idiots of the already under way communist insurgency we suffer in this country. Follow them to the bank. Soros funded organizations? Joyce foundation? Dope money? Ask anyone who lived in eastern Europe pre- 1989 about the joys of socialism aka communism for a glimpse of our demorat planned future.
basically charging JVD for 16 agg batt shots was pointless and all for show. Judge didn't even bother with those counts.
After the smoke cleared, Herbert didn't do so bad after all.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
kid was knocked around in The System since he was 3.
14 years later his exit cost $5M.
1/19/2019 01:50:00 AM
Simply put. Nothing else needs to be said.
We'd suggest extra special attention up north where the spree killer struck twice executing pedestrians on the street.
Thought we were to refer to him as the dark complected, non-ethnic, duck walking killer...
People keep telling me he qualified for home monitoring as one of the conditions of the bail he produced, and that would have been credited day for day. If true, another Herbert disaster. JVD, would have months to go.
Anonymous said...
Lighfoot, Perkwinkle, Daly, Mendoza, and almost every other mayoral candidate says Van Dyke sentence is way to lenient and he needed to be sentenced to more years in prison. Just so I’m clear on this, all these people are now for longer prison sentences? Do I have that right?
1/19/2019 01:39:00 AM
One must wonder how much prison time these four crooks believe their friend bugsy burke should get or is he giving them up to the feebs...
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
The only thing that aggravated me today was Patti Ex-first lady Blago.
She compared a hard working cop to a STUPID politician, who did not know when to shut up
As Patti should have been indicted, and would have been if not for the kids.
Time to STFU now.
And thanks for your sister.
Too bad there isn't a penitentiary in "Fucking" Golden, Colorado
Those special prosecutors were two of the biggest A-holes I’ve ever seen. I’m sorry that you’re bald, middle aged and probably eternally flaccid. But those are not reasons to have an attitude in the court and try to destroy people.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How did Sheriff Dart get away with firing Van Dykes wife on the first day of training in the academy to become a jail C/O. Has she filed a suit? That is blatant discrimination.You can't penalize someone because they are related to a convicted felon. Dart should know better, he's a lawyer right.
Dart is and always has been a jag off
McDonald was a ward of the state. If he was so loved by his family (uncle's,aunts)why didn't they care for him ? Who got the $5 million if he was a ward of the state?
Mighty thoughtful of the authorities to have JVD show up to court in jail attire. And then putting that jag off on the stand that commented that those are the clothes he should be wearing. Fuckhead!
Can these activists, and Lori Lightfoot, please give us some examples of cities where there are great police and black community relations ? I really do not think this exists for a variety of reasons.
nonymous said...
Lighfoot, Perkwinkle, Daly, Mendoza, and almost every other mayoral candidate says Van Dyke sentence is way to lenient and he needed to be sentenced to more years in prison. Just so I’m clear on this, all these people are now for longer prison sentences? Do I have that right?
1/19/2019 01:39:00 AM
Preckwinkle openly stated that this incident is not the first time a chicago police officer killed someone and got away with it. This lady definitely is not on the side of the police, specifically white police officers. I know this positions will appeal to some in the black community, but I firmly believe that most people do not feel that way.
Not one of those activists or media members batted an eye at the over 8000 pieces of paper that DCFS had on Laquan McDonald! (as mentioned by Judge Gaughan)
I truly hate this city and what it has become. Do you get any sort of pension for 10 years on, coming up on that. Thinking about saying fuck this and moving away from this shit. Just not worth it.
Well said SCC. CPD should get their thumb out of their ass and take heed to your prediction/warning. But they won’t. Eddie is not capable.
According to the Washington Post over the last 5 years in the ENTIRE United States under 1000 a year were killed by the Police. Think about that, the millions of encounters during the year by Police across this country & less than 1000 end in a deadly encounter.
Now this little kid bit of info:
Johns Hopkins reported their research over an 8 year period shows 250,000 people die EACH YEAR due to medical error!!!
But the Police are hunting down & killing people... !!! No your Doctors are...
Let's not forget that NONE OF LAQUAN' S family really wanted to help him especially his Great Uncle the REVEREND who only cared about himself GRANDSTANDING to any media cameras pointed his way..... if only the POLICE HATING MEDIA in this town cared enough to ask the GREAT UNCLE were he was or any other family members were to help LAQUAN MCDONALD during his tumultuous young life the only response the GREAT REVEREND could think of is ..........SILENCE !!!!!!
https://youtu.be/RUvA3CZfseE
So many useless laws are passed, but this one is needed: a law against prosecutions going forward for political or racial reasons. If white-pandering governments were doing this to black citizens, such a law would have been passed a long time ago.
I want to apply to be an activist. How much do it pay?
With the SA's office refusing to prosecute these criminals, stop bringing them in! Give the city the kind gof police dept. they want, Show up and do the absolute minimum! Go home at the end of the watch to your family! FUCK RAHM !
Wow, only if L.M. Had such structured support when he was wondering aimlessly on the public way high on pcp with a shank. 🤔
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The only thing that aggravated me today was Patti Ex-first lady Blago.
She compared a hard working cop to a STUPID politician, who did not know when to shut up
As Patti should have been indicted, and would have been if not for the kids.
Time to STFU now.
And thanks for your sister.
1/19/2019 12:14:00 AM
In ignorant Patti’s statement she said LaQuan was unarmed!
He was armed with a knife bitch.
All things considered I think Officer Van Dyke got as good a sentence as was humanly possible. But my concern is -- can he survive in an Illinois Prison?
Even if he only has to serve half of the 81 months, each day is going to be a day with a target on his back from the inmates. There has to be a long line of losers doing life and who have nothing further to lose who'd like nothing more than to be the guy known for taking out the 'killer cop'. And spending 40+ months in 'segregation' doesn't sound exactly ideal either. Oh well, best of luck to Van Dyke on that.
an aside: ..........
I find it kind of funny that Patti Blagojevich had to stick her two cents in on Van Dyke's sentence compared to her hubby's, and that Officer Van Dyke can be out on parole sooner than Blago. It's still my point of view that if she still wants to be mad at someone or something, she has to look no further than her dear old daddy, Aldercreature Dick Mell.
It was Mell who got the ball rolling with the Feds wire-tapping hubby when Mell made that public rant on the City Council Floor that Blago was involved in a corrupt Land Deal (over a Landfill iirc). That rant perked the Feds ears up and that got them the wire-tap. If Mell had kept his mouth shut, Blago never would have been investigated.
Hmm??? I wonder if Patti sends daddy cards at Christmas, his Birthday, or Father's Day. LOL
So 2nd degree murder is better for the accused/prosecuted than agg batt??
Anyone else see the activist in the courtroom trying to direct the State's deaf guy witness to where Vandyke was sitting so he could identify him in court? Deaf guy could ID Vandyke and said he couldn't see, so judge lets him get up and look around. While hes standing there looking out into the gallery activist revrun Greg Livingston gets caught by the judge motioning to the deaf guy and pointing to Vandyke. The judge had him removed from the courtroom and detained by a sheriff, but after the break let him back into the courtroom with the rest of us. I was hoping he"d hit him with contempt and lock him up, but I knew that was only hope. Livingston is such a piece of shit, and you see the lengths these assholes will go through to get a cop. They do their own criminal acts and call it their justice.
Terrible as it is , JVD should mark this in the “Win” category!
Well they had to spare the little fish to keep from going after the big fish. If they hammer Van Dyke, March, Gaphne and Walsh you’d have to hammer everyone who signed off on the cover up; including Rahm.
This was the best case scenario for this shit sandwich. I hope Jason and his family get through this and then move on... Keep the faith....
SecondCity well written post!
Actually many great comments. Prayers to VanDyke and his family.
The false dead hypocrites politicians, revuns, and LMc Family cry crocadile tears.
There are 100s of LMc in Chicago. LMc's have been abused the moment they came out of the womb. Crack, abusive mother fathers?. They are kicked, scaleded, abused, given weed and crack, tortured, bruised, screamed at, psychologically tortured and then abandoned to grandma or whom ever or whatever.
As a teacher I saw 100s of LMc's. Their eyes are listless and dead. Parent, mother, uncle, cousins are nowhere to be found. LMcs go home to greased covered empty homes, with no toilets, soiled beds and no clean clothes.
Only the policeman and the teacher interact with these LMc's. The publice never does!
Jack Nicholson
You don’t want the truth because deep down in places you don’t talk about at parties.
Prayers to all Police Officers
Anonymous said...
If you have a family with kids, the first thing you do at the start of the tour is tape a picture of those kids on your dashboard and then start your tour. Drill it through your skulls what matter's. Stop chasing in cars and on foot. Glance at those faces throughout the tour, it might change your work perspective.
1/19/2019 12:53:00 AM
You're better off not having a family on this job.
i had the unrealistic hope that Jason would not get convicted of anything. The politicians and bosses on the job threw him under the bus. That being said I believe Herbert and his team did an admirable job defending Him.
To: 1/19/2019 12:26:00 AM
Well Said.
Anonymous said...
Vallas was just on the news saying the Van Dyke sentence is too light.
Damn! I was going to vote for Vallas. Not now! He is the same as the other panderers.
McCarthy did not speak negatively of the verdict. He only spoke of healing.
The Saint Sabina thing really sticks in my craw, but McCarthy might just be our best bet.
1/18/2019 10:33:00 PM
It’s been said on this blog before, Jerry Joyce is the only choice with integrity and a vision of a fair and law/order city.
Preckwinkle, Mendoza, Chico are wrapped up in Burke, that is why they have started their political TV ad’s, trying to clean themselves off. McCarthy is the part of the reason this lawless city is in this mess, Vallas is a wolf in sheep’s clothing, did you hear his comments yesterday (all of you who say what a friend of the Police he is because his kid is a cop)? The others are socialist and leftist who want to destroy this city with a anti-police and entitlement agenda, on the backs of the hard workering, tax paying, citizens.
Did you hear the teachers union? That this, we will take it! Tax them, we will take it! Tax that, we will take it! Pay attention to what these politicians say off script, hen they are caught off guard, those are their true intentions.
Why couldn’t his legal team given JVD, a suit or a shirt and tie to wear. He looked horrible in that prison garb.
Question? What will it take to “fix” the trust gap between police and the community? More police scrutiny? More money “ redistribution “? No jails? How about obey the laws? Whatever they are doing isn’t working. The national guard will not work. Reform? Transparency? Fancy liberal buzzwords. We live in bizarro world.
I want to vomit when I see candidates for mayor pandering to "the community" and totally disregarding the fact the Laquan was a "throwaway" and his drrugged up actions repeatedly led to his death. What the hell was JVD to do, let him walk away and stab a civilian? Then the elected officials would really howl.
The politicians are outraged about one African American death, what about the other 2000 shot and 400 plus killed. People of color are picked on because they are shooting and committing the crimes, just like the politicians. Politicians are criminals, criminals do not like COPS.
Once charged it would’ve been better If he was on house arrest. Could’ve been time served now.
Like most progressives, the “usual activists” are only interested in whipping up the mob.
“The community” doesn’t mistrust the police because police officers occasionally shoot and kill a few members of their “community”, they mistrust and hate the police because activists have told them - over and over, since they were born - that the only reason they are poor and stupid is because white people are keeping them from being successful, using the police to “keep them down”.
That’s why the arguments and claims of the activists and “community organizers” don’t make sense - you don’t know the subtext that underpins them. Once you realize that the core belief of “the community” is that their lives would be wonderful if only white people stopped oppressing them, THEN it all makes a sort of sense. It doesn’t matter how hard or gentle the police are, it is the very fact of their presence, as “tools of the oppressor” that makes them a problem.
If I could make a modest suggestion: do as “the community” asks - take crime reports, ask for witnesses, collect evidence, but DO NOT pursue, arrest or investigate. If “the community” wants to stop black-on-black murders, they can walk the murderers down to the station.
Vallas showed his true colors and joined the bunch on commenting on the sentance not being long enough.
At this point it is what it is and I wouldn’t appeal. Do the 3 years or so and hopefully you can find some sort of normal life after that.
There is only one who benefited from this and it is our lying, stealing, crooked midget of a mayor. Why in G-d's name isn't he on trial or in jail.
JVD, I feel for your family and wish it was not this way, but when you get out and i hope it is soon, please get the hell out of Illinois.
Richard
The Judge was sending US a message. He knew very well that Rahm, McCarthy, Johnson, Lightfoot, Alvarez and a slew of others should have been tried and convicted as well. JVD was wrong with the subsequent shots, but Judge Vaughn was not going to let JVD get thrown under the bus for 100 years. Keep those body cameras on and when a boss gives you a direct order to lie, cheat and steal, call your FOP rep and document heavily.
Vallas said the same thing sentence should of been longer ! Just like the rest of them.
At this time I can only say that I wish the entire VanDyke family all Gods blessings.
They’ll need some extra help from above.
Commenting on all the political aspects of this event would serve no useful purpose now.
Best of luck to all, you’ll need that as well.
Sad...
Well written...thank you.
1/19/2019 12:33:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How did Sheriff Dart get away with firing Van Dykes wife on the first day of training in the academy to become a jail C/O. Has she filed a suit? That is blatant discrimination.You can't penalize someone because they are related to a convicted felon. Dart should know better, he's a lawyer right.
1/19/2019 12:50:00 AM
If she hasn’t there is definitely a reason why she didn’t. Her lawyer along with many others were aware of this and never filed a suit. Dart knew about it and did it anyway
Anonymous Jiminy Cricket said...
Although he’s going to serve at least two years, maybe less considering time already served, this was the best case scenario. If he would have gotten only probation the “community”, I’m sorry, piece of shit assholes, would’ve protested, rioted and raised hell. Now these activists won’t be able to put their names on anything because JVD was sentence to prison. Speaking of which, this isn’t going to be a full 81 month sentence. I give it until 2021 for him to get out and try and get his life back to some kind of normalcy. Guarantee you that he moves the fuck out of this god forsaken city.
Another win is the judge stopped that bullshit of a charge of Agg Batt per shot...please what a joke from the start.
Stay safe, watch yours and your partner’s 6, and FUCK YOU RAHM!
Let your conscience be your guide!
He’s going to serve a little over 3 years. Half the sentence plus time served which was like 3 month. He wasn’t taken into custody until he was convicted
One thing through all of this that stuck out was the strength of his wife. Something I will always remember. I owe it to my wife as well to come home safe physically and legally. I hope other officers have husbands and wives like her.
When FOP-7 gets JVD's mailing address, inmate #, etc., please post on SCC and/or FOP eMail/monthly newsletter.
Thank you.
Jesus. One day is too long. A police officer that was trying to do what he believed proper at the time, with an armed, irrational and violent offender that was non-compliant was criminally charged and sentenced to prison. Anyone that tries to insert themselves anywhere into any problem of the "community" at this stage is straight out their mind. Let them kill each other, let them defend themselves. Because if you offend the wrong person doing so you are going to be charged and convicted.
Do you really believe that this vicious, lying defender of thug violence political machine will stand up for "you"? It will be different for "you"? It will be recognized that "you" are trying to do the right thing?
They will never get it until they descend into hell, and hell is apparently worse than what we have seen so far in the cold hearted, violent, uncaring ghettos of this city.
I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me
Who or how is anyone going to justify the sentencing?
Looking at maybe up to some 20 years in shit jail with real, seasoned violent ShitholeChicago feral.
Then there’s the parade of community witnesses none of which are background verified angels.
Notice that the CPD Brass, the Gmac or Special Ed Merit Board the many that all concurred with the original findings, none came to the the defense. They were quick to jump ship and quick to clam up.
If anyone should have been brought up was Special Ed.
He accountability was glossed over when he became the voice of the underserved.
He and PrickWrinkleFoxxx are doing a victory dance.
The SEIU-SlumTimes was quick to get opinions, all negative pandering bullshit.
Had to laugh that even crooked Blago ol’lady getting her 2¢ in too.
Does anyone out their working the streets really trust Cook County anymore?
Please - DONT ACT STUPIDLY.
Know the limits.
Be open and sensible to DO NOTHING.
Show up on the 1st & 16 just like flunkie Special Ed.
81 months seem short, unless your the one doing the time. May God watch over Jason and his family. ♠️
so.....he was turning his life around....was that after he was walking down the street with a knife?...maybe after that?....
Will there be uproar for the plea down of a male offender who dismembered a small child and threw him into a chicago lagoon. Chopped off his hands and his fuckin head.
Sadly this officer and his family have been destroyed. Even if he gets out in three years his life will be totally crisp until he takes his last breath. All of the Black haters were out in full force and will be back for the next "artrocity". When citizens call 911 for help just who will show up at their door. The back in the day cop that will go to all lengths to help or some fetal uncaring robot who doesn't want to get his hands dirty. Chicago will get the police department it deserves. Good luck with that.
That is 81 months too long. Unless you ask Paul Vallas, Lori Lightfoot and Anthony Prenkwinkle.
He should be home with his family, and with Gods help he will be. Just remember it could be any one of us. Stay Safe, and God Bless the CPD.
Yet, "the community" never is up in arms over black on black crime. I'm sorry.
Of course,the family is interviewed, the "revruns" and the usual folk.
What would I do in the same situation? Hindsight is a bitch!
I honest to God, feel for the officer who responded, had his life changed, etc.
You, in Chicago, live in a Hell-hole, but I think you know that.
This kids whole family abandoned him. DCFS failed him. Nobody, I repeat nobody stepped up to help him out. Now the police have to deal with his illegal actions. Our politicians will answer to a higher power someday. Good luck.
Everyone employed by CPD should now go over to the Go Fund Me Page and donate $100.00 so this family can live and move on. Could have happen to any of us. And our union needs to reach out to our labor/trade union friends so JVD has a soft landing upon his return. Just saying....
Vallas will be at Iron Horse tonight, maybe someone needs to ask him what he meant by his statement. I will be there and may be that guy to ask. I fucking hate Politicians.
It was nauseating to watch the biased, agenda driven coverage by our “media “ assholes.
One stations coverage had one of the anchors say “the FOP is giving a statement right now” but instead of cutting to the FOP statement they instead switched over to more “activists” coverage.
What happened to reporting both sides of a story ? In an unbiased way?
I hope you biased, agenda driven media rot in hell.
Community activists chanting....please tell me there is some video out there
The only thing that aggravated me today was Patti Ex-first lady Blago.
She compared a hard working cop to a STUPID politician, who did not know when to shut up
As Patti should have been indicted, and would have been if not for the kids.
Time to STFU now.
And thanks for your sister.
1/19/2019 12:14:00 AM
I must admit, the first things of which I thought after the announcement was Jason Van Dyke, his wife and family and then Blago. I think being a Chicago, Illinois resident and a sideline observer, there is nothing unnatural about having the two well-publicized trials and outcomes simultaneously pass through your thoughts. That said, try and cut Patty a break. Yes, she is a pushy, bossy, mouthy and salty-tongued woman, who probably deserved to have a mandated vacation, too, but she is just trying to get her husband released. In reality, nothing Blago did was deserving of a 14 year sentence. If talking bullshit before and/or after being charged is an aggravating circumstances, I know a bunch of pooches that were deserving of life sentences. Blago has already served more than half of an unfair sentence. They should let him go for cripes' sake. And, Patty did not have anything to do with conceiving the sister. Thank Mell for that one.
The judge took care of him! Could have been much worse!
1/19/2019 02:54:00 AM
Shut the fuck up, torn pocket.
"The judge was fair and followed the letter of the law. If the judge had succumbed to unfair public pressure, it could have been much worse."
https://patch.com/illinois/oaklawn/parolee-tasers-self-cop-during-pharmacy-struggle-prosecutor
Taser had no affect on this one now Officers are afraid to shoot be the next Van Dyke or Slager.
Agreed, SCC. He had no family until he became $$. I feel for JVD and his family, and yes he was sacrificed, but I too thought he would be socked at sentencing. Best of worse case scenario.
when i find out what correctional institution JVD is in, I will make it a habit of putting a few bucks into his commissary account every month. Any money left over will be given to him at the end of his sentence. He will need this small kindness to make this a bit better while inside.
Anonymous said...
The testimony given by his wife during the closing arguments was remarkable. What a tough lady.
1/19/2019 03:37:00 AM
a lady who got a raw deal from Dart.
The letter said Hunter used McDonald’s last paycheck from his construction job to buy the suit the teen was buried in.
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What about the 5 million payout?
Shame on the crooked cook county justice sysytem. This should have been probation. If this were a concealed carry holder and the same scenario had played out with the same result, the CCL holder would never have even been charged. This was always about getting g a conviction on a police officer to set a precedent for the future.
This is why his “grate” uncle spoke on behalf of that dead pos. Maybe O’Brien could ask him where he was
while pos was a ward of the state. Grate unc sez, I paid for his funeral, and the city reimbursed me. I picked
up pos’s last check and bought a suit for him to be buried in. Wait.... what? So none of these fuckfaces has
spent a dime on this kid. I feel nothing. Nothing. For pos or his “family”. Choke on a dick grate uncle.
In fairness, I thought that since the Judge allowed the Uncle to read a letter from the grave that the OFFENDER "wrote", he should also have allowed letters of the OFFENDER'S future victims to be read as well. In the interest of saving time, he could have allowed 10 letters or so.
If you have a family with kids, the first thing you do at the start of the tour is tape a picture of those kids on your dashboard and then start your tour. Drill it through your skulls what matter's. Stop chasing in cars and on foot. Glance at those faces throughout the tour, it might change your work perspective.
Great idea but keep the pictures in your hat. I don’t want to look at your family all night.
it is now 3:00 PM on saturday 1-19-2019.
i have been listening to the dick kay radio show on wcpt820 am.
he and monroe anderson have been trashing the hell out of the police and these verdicts for two hours now. the progressives are trying to turn the entire chicago population against the police.
i seriously think people who do not agree should let dick kay know.
either call the station 773.763.9278 or
email him at dickkay@doogiesplace.com
you don't have to agree with these outcomes but bashing the police does not help.
Van Dyke's wife was called the day before she was to start and told by one of Dart's top staff that she would not be hired. I believe she has filed a lawsuit.
Yes, it couldn't of been worse but JVD doing more than 3 years is not going to be easy for him. He will probably be one of the most high profile inmates wherever he ends up.
Jerry Joyce? Really? The guy showed up an hour late to his own forum in Mt Greenwood. Does Joyce even have a plan for the pension crisis?, retired healthcare for cops? Fixing the homicide clearance rate? Does he? No he does not. Vallas DOES. I find it funny how you all Even consider McCarthy when he fucked us over and over again. Vallas says one thing you disagree with (I disagree too) and you lose your shit. Get smart! Vallas has a PLAN for everything, something NOBODY else has done, especially Jerry Joyce. He’s only in it to take away votes for Vallas who will shut the machine down if he wins. Go to Joyce’s website, there’s nothing on there! And everything Vallas has said, he replies with “I agree with Paul...”
Here’s something the media didn’t tell you...during the ACLU forum, Vallas said that there is NO “code of silence” amongst the rank and file officers, but that the “code of silence” falls within Emanuel and McCarthy. He also said the 3 officers that were acquitted, should have NEVER been there in the first place and they were VICTIMS. But you don’t give a fuck about that. He was BOO’D at the forum for saying those things...sticking up for us! I’m a cop too, get smart people. You want the pensions that we’ve worked so hard for and retired healthcare? Then vote for Vallas. Quit bitching. You’re not going to agree with everything a person says.
At this point it is what it is and I wouldn’t appeal. Do the 3 years or so and hopefully you can find some sort of normal life after that.
1/19/2019 10:54:00 AM
that's smart don't appeal, idiot
To Jason, From an old retired guy/boss, Take care of yourself now. You looked like a zombie (rightfully so - who wouldn't after all you've been put thru). We all know you were a political pawn. You stopped a kid on a dangerous rampage. He should have been stopped by many other coppers before you got there but that's that "Stay Fetal" BS thats is in these millenials heads (let someone else do it).
I've handled many case where Officers shot numerous rounds because of adrenanline. That was understandable and not a factor if the shooting was justified. Your problems started when it was election time and the politicians got caught giving out 5 million to people that didn't deserve it. It's not over yet because guess what, It's election time again. Please stay strong and use this down time to your advantage Your case will go down in history as yet maybe the final nail in this City. To your family please stay strong, always know you are part of the police Family. Thank God Darrin O'Brien was brought in and to Judge Gaughan, thank you for a fair sentance with this shi-burger you were handed.
Just think, McDonald suddenly had a family and a construction job? I think the BS 4th uncle was embellishing like the goof that said Van Dyke put his gun to his head during a traffic stop but failed to mention it during his statement to IPRA. Yea right.
Listen , spread the message to all family , friends Not one vote to any of mayoral candidates that pander to criminals .
saying 81 months isn't enough , he should have received probation with time considered served .
All are looking for votes from criminals , can convicted felons , illegals , deceased vote in Chicago ?
Have a mental , high on drugs charge our mayor , cook county politicians and you can bet the offender will be shot down .
Does the Bodyguard detail for our mayor wear body cams , carry a taser ?
Years ago a mental was driving around D.C. , eluding Police and was gunned down by local police , no investigation by Federal Agencies , Attorney General ??
has a nice wife , children . all he did was eliminate a person threatening him and others with a knife .
Did that Uncle ever take laquan in as a family member , love him so he wouldn't be thrown into a state sponsored system ?
potty mouth patti blago complaining about sentence being lenient
was blago attacked with a knife , hell no
your father gave elvis up for shaking hius friends down
no pardon , no pardon ever
he tried to shake down Obama
I would like to listen to all the tapes
Great job SCC! Great coverage of this entire horrible case! Glad you are there! Where were all the CPD bosses yesterday? I did not see a single one in court.
Anonymous said...
when i find out what correctional institution JVD is in, I will make it a habit of putting a few bucks into his commissary account every month. Any money left over will be given to him at the end of his sentence. He will need this small kindness to make this a bit better while inside.
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This is a great idea. Can we do this on line somehow? I would love to contribute to this.
3 dead and 7 more shot during a major snow storm. Send the bill to the taxpayer.
Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these knob heads from the swift completion of their self destruction. Tattoo it on their foreheads while being good little Lemmings and repeating why average citizens "need" guns.
Maybe Governor Fat Fuck can lecture us on the need for more gun control and how it will make us safer while his personal State Police army surrounds him and his family on our fucking dime. Or maybe Burke can sponsor one last gun control bill before he hits Club Fed with his golf clubs.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Vallas will be at Iron Horse tonight, maybe someone needs to ask him what he meant by his statement. I will be there and may be that guy to ask. I fucking hate Politicians.
I thought he was pro police and from a police family. Had a kid who is a police officer. One guy writes everyday on the blog that Vallas is the only one to vote for and will take care of us and our pension. Let him explain the comment
Will there be uproar for the plea down of a male offender who dismembered a small child and threw him into a chicago lagoon. Chopped off his hands and his fuckin head......
Nope just a howling wind and a distant train horn
I wonder why herbert didnt do the closing. He told the fop he is the best attorney in illinois. If he did the closing jvd would have had 162 months. See what happens when u have competent skilled attorneys amazing
The 'value' of using Herbert backfired. 200K for a competent lawyer versus 6 years. I'm assuming his firm is now dead. Nice run.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: both Jason Van Dyke and Laquan McDonald were created and then destroyed by the corrupt, dysfunctional political dystopia that's lorded over much of the urbanized Western hemisphere since the Cold War. Until someone manages to both put the two things together and attract supporters to what ought to be a common cause, the failure and chaos will continue.
5 million bux paid to the uncaring mother was punishment enough for me
02:47pm that was brilliant.amen brother
Where was his uncle when this kid was flipping around the DCFS system. Now he’s all mouthy about the end result. Since “the State” took care of McDonald for most of his life(not momma who birthed him and failed), was the state given any of that money? Big time ghetto lottery for that family.
Yuup. Vallas shot himself in the foot by criticizing JVD's sentence. Claiming to be the father and husband of PO's. Real nice.
Amazing, no one gave a rats ass about that junky until he was shot by an Officer doing his job. Then all of a sudden he’s a platform for every idiot that wants to be the next Mayor, And was a Gold Mine for the family that didn’t give two shits about him in the first place.
1/19/2019 03:37:00 AM
a lady who got a raw deal from Dart.
1/19/2019 02:10:00 PM
You expected more
Anonymous Anonymous said...
At this point it is what it is and I wouldn’t appeal. Do the 3 years or so and hopefully you can find some sort of normal life after that.
1/19/2019 10:54:00 AM
that's smart don't appeal, idiot
And exactly what do you hope to accomplish with an appeal?? A new trial, where he can be sentenced to longer time??
You are the idiot.
And who used to slate judges for the Democratic party in Cook County? Maybe someone can ask Toni that question. Lets change the topic. Blame the police.
Potty mouth Patti Blago is upset because her husband got a longer sentence than JVD. Go figure
Anonymous said...
After the smoke cleared, Herbert didn't do so bad after all.
1/19/2019 07:49:00 AM
Darren O'Brien was brought in to handle the sentencing phase and the appeal. Dan Herbert, although a nice person, was in way over his head with this trial. Shame on the FOP for not paying for some big guns for JVD.
Yet !!
Zone 10 is jumping. I'm not talking about about radio calls. Traffic stops. Suspicious vehicles. Following a car.
Why ?!
Haven't you guys learned !!!! They dont like us !
Fetal ! Fetal ! Fetal !
1/19/2019 12:14:00 AM
I must admit, the first things of which I thought after the announcement was Jason Van Dyke, his wife and family and then Blago. I think being a Chicago, Illinois resident and a sideline observer, there is nothing unnatural about having the two well-publicized trials and outcomes simultaneously pass through your thoughts. That said, try and cut Patty a break. Yes, she is a pushy, bossy, mouthy and salty-tongued woman, who probably deserved to have a mandated vacation, too, but she is just trying to get her husband released. In reality, nothing Blago did was deserving of a 14 year sentence. If talking bullshit before and/or after being charged is an aggravating circumstances, I know a bunch of pooches that were deserving of life sentences. Blago has already served more than half of an unfair sentence. They should let him go for cripes' sake. And, Patty did not have anything to do with conceiving the sister. Thank Mell for that one.
Fuck Blago! That sentence should stand as the new minimum for any politician caught even THINKING about stealing.
1/19/2019 01:48:00 PM
Anonymous said...
Jerry Joyce? Really? The guy showed up an hour late to his own forum in Mt Greenwood. Does Joyce even have a plan for the pension crisis?, retired healthcare for cops? Fixing the homicide clearance rate? Does he? No he does not. Vallas DOES. I find it funny how you all Even consider McCarthy when he fucked us over and over again. Vallas says one thing you disagree with (I disagree too) and you lose your shit. Get smart! Vallas has a PLAN for everything, something NOBODY else has done, especially Jerry Joyce. He’s only in it to take away votes for Vallas who will shut the machine down if he wins. Go to Joyce’s website, there’s nothing on there! And everything Vallas has said, he replies with “I agree with Paul...”
Here’s something the media didn’t tell you...during the ACLU forum, Vallas said that there is NO “code of silence” amongst the rank and file officers, but that the “code of silence” falls within Emanuel and McCarthy. He also said the 3 officers that were acquitted, should have NEVER been there in the first place and they were VICTIMS. But you don’t give a fuck about that. He was BOO’D at the forum for saying those things...sticking up for us! I’m a cop too, get smart people. You want the pensions that we’ve worked so hard for and retired healthcare? Then vote for Vallas. Quit bitching. You’re not going to agree with everything a person says.
1/19/2019 03:42:00 PM
Vallas is as much a part of the machine as Joyce, Daley, Preckwinkle, Mendoza, etc.. He didn't get all those CPS jobs because he wasn't part of the machine. The machine even took care of him in Philadelphia and New Orleans. Granted, they feared him so they sent him far away and gave him very lucrative jobs, BUT, he is still part of the democratic machine.
We need someone who is NOT beholding to the machine. An Outsider who has been screwed over by that machine. Someone like..... Garry McCarthy, who will now NOT be answering to Rahm. but will defend the principals that we all took a vow to defend.
One of Chicago’s biggest cop haters. He has a cat, like Carl Nyberg.
https://mobile.twitter.com/mateodechicago
How about former S/A Bob Milan who is now a commentator for Channel 7 (ABC). He stated that had the IPRA or COPA investigators done their job correctly and punished JVD for past malfeasance, he would not have been there to kill Laquan. Punish him for what Bob? He had NO SUSTAINED beefs. Every working copper gets them, but dude usually lies about the incident and they become NOT SUSTAINED! I remember when you used to work WITH us to put bad people in jail. Apparently, ABC isn't interested in the truth, they want a former ASA to spew their bullshit. How much do they pay you Bob? What's your integrity worth?
Yuup. Vallas shot himself in the foot by criticizing JVD's sentence. Claiming to be the father and husband of PO's. Real nice.
1/19/2019 07:55:00 PM
I don't agree with him on this,but still voting for him. He's not the perfect candidate, but who's better for POs and retirees? I the Chicago, Cook County, Illinois. Beggars can't be choosers.
A Jackson just had to jump in front of a camera! Johnny Boy looks like he needs to lay off the cheeseburgers!
Too bad she doesnt have anyone in her family that works for one of the media outlets. She would be a shoe in.
Anonymous said...
when i find out what correctional institution JVD is in, I will make it a habit of putting a few bucks into his commissary account every month. Any money left over will be given to him at the end of his sentence. He will need this small kindness to make this a bit better while inside.
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This is a great idea. Can we do this on line somehow? I would love to contribute to this.
Better Idea:
Write a personal check to "Mrs Jason Van Dyke" and drop it off at the credit union.
You do NOT need the account #, the teller has it. I did this after the conviction, and have
a copy of my cashed check.
The wife & kids need the money more than J needs chips & a pop.
Also, Go Fund Me may be nice but GFM takes a %, and they report the donation as income to IRS,
meaning the Feds & ILL get a cut.
Don't be so hard on Dan Harbert's legal skills based on the results of this case.
There are very few attorneys who have experience in defending police for on-duty police shooting because it happens so rarely.
The JVD case was a loser from the the time McDonald hit the ground. There is no way to sell the public the idea that a subject lying on the ground is an immediate threat. If the firing stopped when he went down that would have been the end of it.
The verdict is pretty much reasonable as is the sentence.
What I took away most from the sentencing was that fact that every white male police officer is accused of being motivated by race for every police action they take. White male police officers are in the cross hairs of the media and the black community. I'm not sure that a white male police officer should dare work with another white male. If I were a beat car, I'd try to partner with a black officer to eliminate the race card. After watching the prosecutors parade out people who were previously stopped by JVD and listening to them lie and impeach themselves over and over again, I just think why put yourself through this. If a white male officer was truly motivated by race, he would not be able to drive 5ft without stopping someone. It's totally ridiculous. Honestly, white male officers should probably have all the inside spots and desks spots. The community doesn't want us in their neighborhood or alive for that matter. Our current leaders just feed the fire and have done nothing but promote the demonization and hatred of male white police officers. Finally, if you match this description, you'd be a fool to be proactive.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Jerry Joyce? Really? The guy showed up an hour late to his own forum in Mt Greenwood. Does Joyce even have a plan for the pension crisis?, retired healthcare for cops? Fixing the homicide clearance rate? Does he? No he does not. Vallas DOES. I find it funny how you all Even consider McCarthy when he fucked us over and over again. Vallas says one thing you disagree with (I disagree too) and you lose your shit. Get smart! Vallas has a PLAN for everything, something NOBODY else has done, especially Jerry Joyce. He’s only in it to take away votes for Vallas who will shut the machine down if he wins. Go to Joyce’s website, there’s nothing on there! And everything Vallas has said, he replies with “I agree with Paul...”
Here’s something the media didn’t tell you...during the ACLU forum, Vallas said that there is NO “code of silence” amongst the rank and file officers, but that the “code of silence” falls within Emanuel and McCarthy. He also said the 3 officers that were acquitted, should have NEVER been there in the first place and they were VICTIMS. But you don’t give a fuck about that. He was BOO’D at the forum for saying those things...sticking up for us! I’m a cop too, get smart people. You want the pensions that we’ve worked so hard for and retired healthcare? Then vote for Vallas. Quit bitching. You’re not going to agree with everything a person says.
1/19/2019 03:42:00 PM
Hey Paul Vallas Jr..get of the CPD blog. Don’t worry Chicago Fire Dept. will call you soon, then you can leave your deputy spot in Mayberry. Great Vallas prepared for his forum and gave a good answer, but caught off guard, Vallas said JVD should have gotten much more time. He is pandering. Is it possible Vallas has his campaign people trolling and commenting on this blog? Vallas is not the answer.
One thing through all of this that stuck out was the strength of his wife. Something I will always remember. I owe it to my wife as well to come home safe physically and legally. I hope other officers have husbands and wives like her.
This needed to reposted.
I didn't like what Vallas said about the sentence, he seemed to be pandering along with the rest of them. Still he is by far the best choice and actually has something concrete to offer. But given there are so many stupid voters and Chicago is so damn corrupt, I doubt he will win. The hateful racist candidates and the rest of the socialists will be sounding off about this nonstop until the election. It's all Lightfoot and Prickwanker have to talk about.
SCC! Great coverage of this entire horrible case! Glad you are there! Where were all the CPD bosses yesterday? I did not see a single one in court.
Absolutely! All these assholes say they have "our" backs..well where the hell were they? Afraid to come to court and hiding behind walls on the fifth floor of city hall watching the verdict. Fuck you Mayor and Gold Stars! Half of you should be behind bars.
Fuck Jerry Joyce, he is a Madigan puppet and Madigan wa ta to run the City as well as the State. SCREW all of them.
Patti Blagojevich is a spoiled brat with a nasty sharp tongue, a product of daddy, Alderman Dick Mell.She wss raised as a cocky little bitch and really never had alot of friends, just ask a prior friend who knew her well and served as the head of Blagos security team. PO Ralph who now works for Burke. DEANS brother in law too.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How about former S/A Bob Milan who is now a commentator for Channel 7 (ABC). He stated that had the IPRA or COPA investigators done their job correctly and punished JVD for past malfeasance, he would not have been there to kill Laquan. Punish him for what Bob? He had NO SUSTAINED beefs. Every working copper gets them, but dude usually lies about the incident and they become NOT SUSTAINED! I remember when you used to work WITH us to put bad people in jail. Apparently, ABC isn't interested in the truth, they want a former ASA to spew their bullshit. How much do they pay you Bob? What's your integrity worth?
1/19/2019 10:11:00 PM
ABC is the lowest of the low. Liberal, left-wing commie propaganda machine run by Disney for the purpose of promoting Disney parks, movies etc etc and tearing down the greatest country in the world.
I didn't like what Vallas said about the sentence, he seemed to be pandering along with the rest of them. Still he is by far the best choice and actually has something concrete to offer. But given there are so many stupid voters and Chicago is so damn corrupt, I doubt he will win. The hateful racist candidates and the rest of the socialists will be sounding off about this nonstop until the election. It's all Lightfoot and Prickwanker have to talk about.
I agree. Vallas should have just said "The judicial process has spoken." But I'll bet he was fed the response by a media "pundit". Still, even with what was said, he is the leaser evil for mayor of all the others.
McCarthy did not speak negatively of the verdict. He only spoke of healing. The Saint Sabina thing really sticks in my craw, but McCarthy might just be our best bet.
I'll say this again and again. McCarthy is the reason CPD is fucked up right now: poser merit appointees, depletion in manpower, elimination of a citywide response unit, massive OT, fudging on crime stats, the ACLU and ISRs, Comstat numbers game, decline in the number of detectives, and on and on. This guy shouldn't be mayor of an outhouse.
We need someone who is NOT beholding to the machine. An Outsider who has been screwed over by that machine. Someone like..... Garry McCarthy, who will now NOT be answering to Rahm. but will defend the principals that we all took a vow to defend.
1/19/2019 09:44:00 PM
you must have missed his re-do of his St Sabina slavery speech in front of the Tribune Editorial Board. His candidacy disappeared the moment Rahm backed out of the race. His whole campaign was based on getting back at Rahm. make no mistake, Willie Wilson will get more votes than Garry.
Don’t be hard on Dan Herberts legal skills ? Let’s see he’s defended three police officers who are now incarcerated . The fop paid him $ 1.4 million and then had to hire someone else to do the closing arguments . He has attacked current members of the Fop Board in the Sun Times , Tribune and even in our newsletter . He is never prepared for court and was constantly admonished by the Judge who he argued with on a regular basis . Even threatened to sue the Lodge !
1. Did not ask for JVD to wear a electric monitor .
2. Was offered a plea bargain but turned it down .
Could list all of his mistakes but bottom line is as you can see what happens when you have experience criminal defense attorneys the results . NOT GUILTY !!!!
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Some of you really need to get your head out of your asses. NO and I mean NO candidate who goes on record in support of JVD stands a chance in hell of being elected no matter what any of you say, they're are too many haters of the Police in the City for that to happen. That being said, we all know politicians will say whatever they need to to get elected so look at the totality of what each candidate says they stand for, dont base your decision on one sound bite. If you ask me, and I have ZERO skin in the game for any candidate, the one I'd choose is Vallas. Whoever gets elected will have to raise some taxes, that's just a reality but he sounds the LEAST anti-police and is a numbers guy so he should be able to come up with a real plan to fix the City's financial mess.
1/20/2019 12:53:00 AM
Well said.
Jerry Joyce really? Did you hear the guy speak at Steinmetz High School where he was an hour late. When asked who he will call when he first sat at the mayor's desk if he was elected, he said he would call his wife and tell her what a nice desk he has now. This guy is a moron!
Anonymous said...
when i find out what correctional institution JVD is in, I will make it a habit of putting a few bucks into his commissary account every month. Any money left over will be given to him at the end of his sentence. He will need this small kindness to make this a bit better while inside.
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This is a great idea. Can we do this on line somehow? I would love to contribute to this.
Better Idea:
Write a personal check to "Mrs Jason Van Dyke" and drop it off at the credit union.
You do NOT need the account #, the teller has it. I did this after the conviction, and have
a copy of my cashed check.
The wife & kids need the money more than J needs chips & a pop.
Also, Go Fund Me may be nice but GFM takes a %, and they report the donation as income to IRS,
meaning the Feds & ILL get a cut.
1/20/2019 12:44:00 AM
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GoFundMe does take about 8%, which is quite a bit. + 30 cents for each specific donation. But true gifts are NOT taxable by the IRS as income and GoFundMe (according to google anyway) does not report anything to the IRS.
Darren O'Brien was brought in to handle the sentencing phase and the appeal. Dan Herbert, although a nice person, was in way over his head with this trial. Shame on the FOP for not paying for some big guns for JVD.
I'm sure you would have done a much better job than Herbert. He chose Obrien like he chose every other expert witness. Great job by the entire Herbert team. Now go back to your moms basement.
All the exempts that justified the shooting should have been there supporting Van Dyke. Case is over, they have nothing to fear
Just how many politicians, community activists, and reverends would be out of work if the community and the Police actually got along?
It just ain’t gonna happen, it’s bad for business. It would be bad for the entire economy of Chicago, cook county, Illinois! Imagine the news media, electric, and print. The politicians, pollsters, campaign people. The educators, schools and unions. Everyone would have to find a new cause to deflect to, just to hide that they are ignorant self centered assholes. It’s a growing industry!
I always wondered how the judges decide sentencing. Seems a bit crazy that Bob Vaughan Ex Cook County Narcotics Officer received 7 years for taking dope off undercover feds and Van Dyke gets less than that for a much more serious offense.
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
Jerry Joyce? Really? The guy showed up an hour late to his own forum in Mt Greenwood. Does Joyce even have a plan for the pension crisis?, retired healthcare for cops? Fixing the homicide clearance rate? Does he? No he does not. Vallas DOES. I find it funny how you all Even consider McCarthy when he fucked us over and over again. Vallas says one thing you disagree with (I disagree too) and you lose your shit. Get smart! Vallas has a PLAN for everything, something NOBODY else has done, especially Jerry Joyce. He’s only in it to take away votes for Vallas who will shut the machine down if he wins. Go to Joyce’s website, there’s nothing on there! And everything Vallas has said, he replies with “I agree with Paul...”
Yeah really, Jerry Joyce does have several realistic proposals. He doesn't pander, he doesn't talk about his wife used to being on the job, he's lived here his entire life and doesn't carpetbag from one state to another. He doesn't try to be all things to all people. Joyce has been active on the southwest side giving time to charities, schools, preventive programs. Paul, wanted to be governor, then he wants to be mayor, then he wants to Philadelphia, or New Orleans or Haiti. If his vast experience resolved issues, I'd say fine, but those places are still screwed up. But vote for whoever you want. But last time I looked, pandering was still illegal in Illinois. And brother, Paul panders.
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How about former S/A Bob Milan who is now a commentator for Channel 7 (ABC). He stated that had the IPRA or COPA investigators done their job correctly and punished JVD for past malfeasance, he would not have been there to kill Laquan. Punish him for what Bob? He had NO SUSTAINED beefs. Every working copper gets them, but dude usually lies about the incident and they become NOT SUSTAINED! I remember when you used to work WITH us to put bad people in jail. Apparently, ABC isn't interested in the truth, they want a former ASA to spew their bullshit. How much do they pay you Bob? What's your integrity worth?
1/19/2019 10:11:00 PM
Let's take this a little further. As a beat officer and as a tactical officer, I like many, have had false beefs made against me. Drug dealers get beefs hoping their cases will be tossed or that it may keep the same officers from stopping them again. Even on a parking ticket, someone made up a beef. Now I'm not saying any and all beefs are completely false but It happens and it happens to officers throughout the city. They adopted the signed affidavit to try to address it however, this was met with protest that people may then be afraid to come forward. I'm retired and don't know if they pulled the signed affidavits or not but at every turn they ignore the reality of being the police. Not only should there be signed affidavits, any and all witness interviews should be audio recorded and those recording be given to lawyers representing the accused officers. There are no consequences for those who make false allegations, period. Yes, I know I'm a dreamer.
Very well said by 12:26pm. Sent to all family and
friends. I do agree with him/her we are doomed as a nation.
But,I will be fighting back the evil in whatever way I can until
my last dying breath. Improvise, adapt, overcome.
About as good as could be hoped for.
I ve seen ~ 30 years of these cases from Tawana Brawley, to Rodney King, to the Duke Lacrosse team rape hoax, Trayvon Martin, Ferguson MO - “Hands up don t shoot” (no pants up don t loot), Trayvon Martin , BlackLiesMatter. Usually there is some fake “Reverand” like Rev. Al Sharpton or Jesse involved . The fake news lugenpresse always does what it does.
The key is to just survive and let things blow over. There will be some new morality fake hate crime . Consider changing your/our name to something Spanish . The prosperous Dominican Republic is always looking for tough cops to keep the Haitians down.
The Philippines and Brazil just elected openly fascist leaders that use tanks, forced labor and short helecopter rides to deal with this sh&$.
Stay strong Brothers and sisters
J
Left Behind in Chicago
Don't forget that Vallas was Quinn's Lt Governor choice ! Vallas just another Liberal and caught with his comments . They are all the same !
If any person thought that VanDyke was going to get probation you are insane.Judge Gaughn gave him the fairest deal he could and is still going to be a political target, but I hear he is retiring soon.. vanDyke could be sitting for 20 years but he caught a break for a mistake, i want there and I'm not him but trying to convince anyone that he was justified dont make it.i know the truth hurts but it is what it is. Let's support Jason with cards and letters and let's not forget his family too.
7'58, I am with you
3:42. U are correct
I'll vote for the guy who actually attempts to remove the residency requirement. I can not wait to get out of this shit hole they call Chicago. Are we the last remaining major city that requires officers to reside in it?
Jeez, DK is still around ? His liver must be pickled by now. Burp.
I'm sure you would have done a much better job than Herbert. He chose Obrien like he chose every other expert witness. Great job by the entire Herbert team. Now go back to your moms basement.
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You must be joking.
I bet there was no dancing this time at Public Transportation Section, with Cindy Shame and the rest of the haters that work in that office.
It’s funny how vallas said one thing that you disagree with and you change your minds, because fuck pensions and healthcare, right? He must hate police, right? And some of you are saying you’re voting for McCarthy? Did you forget that he wanted JVD indicted and recommended it? Not to mention he’s the reason, along with Rahm, that this whole thing has been blown up. Vallas is the best bet. Maybe Chico
Dan Herbert did not select Darren O’Brien . He was suggested by another attorney and Herbert even sent a letter to the Lodge threatening a lawsuit if we used him . If you listened to the Proano appeal you would realize how incompetent he is . Herbert attacked a certain member of the FOP Board during a Board meeting and days after was in the media calling out calling members of the Board “ bad apples !” Herbert had nothing to do with bring O’Brien aboard . The past administration is spinning this to pander for votes . Keep Herbert happy and he can fund the next election . It’s not about the members it’s about the money !!!
Hopefully when he gets processed into IDOC they will release him as is common practice for real criminals.
Again, can the Vallas family quit posting - we do not like your Dad, Uncle, Cousin, Father...he is poor, he is a sell out, and he has had several cronnie jobs - he never changed any of them for the better. Career politician who did not make a difference. Tell Daddy to go run St. Louis' school system.
LaQuan the offender’s “great play-uncle” says “we have a million miles to go”. He left out “ and “5 million dollars to spend”. Maybe it’s all spent.....just sayin
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I'll vote for the guy who actually attempts to remove the residency requirement. I can not wait to get out of this shit hole they call Chicago. Are we the last remaining major city that requires officers to reside in it?
1/20/2019 07:48:00 PM
I think you need to wake up and realize that all of these mayoral candidates have to live in the city, so do you really think they are going to let you move out.
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Dan Herbert did not select Darren O’Brien . He was suggested by another attorney and Herbert even sent a letter to the Lodge threatening a lawsuit if we used him . If you listened to the Proano appeal you would realize how incompetent he is . Herbert attacked a certain member of the FOP Board during a Board meeting and days after was in the media calling out calling members of the Board “ bad apples !” Herbert had nothing to do with bring O’Brien aboard . The past administration is spinning this to pander for votes . Keep Herbert happy and he can fund the next election . It’s not about the members it’s about the money !!!
Darren O’Brien did a nice job, but those 81 months were decided before sentencing day. Judge Gaughan did his homework and already made up his mind and rationale behind it. He was reading off a brief and gave legal precedent along with reasoning why aggravated battery with a gun was added and second degree murder charge stayed. Same as when the verdict was read at the conspiracy trial. Judge spent and hour going thru every charge and reason for a not guilty verdict. She had 2 continuances so she could write her brief. Those things are t decided at the last moments. Gaughan took a 5-10 minute recess to probably make minor changes or adjustments and then returned to read the sentence
The judge is no friend of the police if he was he would of allowed a bench and found him not guilty. Forcing JVD to have a jury
trial in cook county was not fair. And Hebert was the wrong person to represent JVD, why would you let him testify, he was a terrible
witness and by testifying he talked himself into jail. We saw a good judge shred the states case against the officers charged with
conspiracy. Judge Gaughn needs to be gone, made JVD pick a jury and Hebert’s inexperience showed, JVD should of been found
not guilty. A real judge would of given him probation because after all if you did nothing wrong why do you need to go to jail to be rehabilitated. All these mayoral and professional politicians want people out of jail not in jail.
Dan Herbert did not select Darren O’Brien . He was suggested by another attorney and Herbert even sent a letter to the Lodge threatening a lawsuit if we used him . If you listened to the Proano appeal you would realize how incompetent he is . Herbert attacked a certain member of the FOP Board during a Board meeting and days after was in the media calling out calling members of the Board “ bad apples !” Herbert had nothing to do with bring O’Brien aboard . The past administration is spinning this to pander for votes . Keep Herbert happy and he can fund the next election . It’s not about the members it’s about the money !!!
The administration that you love so much just endorsed Ed Burke. Why would this administration endorse a criminal under indictment " keep voting for these morons and see what you get.
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The judge is no friend of the police if he was he would of allowed a bench and found him not guilty. Forcing JVD to have a jury
trial in cook county was not fair. And Hebert was the wrong person to represent JVD, why would you let him testify, he was a terrible
witness and by testifying he talked himself into jail. We saw a good judge shred the states case against the officers charged with
conspiracy. Judge Gaughn needs to be gone, made JVD pick a jury and Hebert’s inexperience showed, JVD should of been found
not guilty. A real judge would of given him probation because after all if you did nothing wrong why do you need to go to jail to be rehabilitated. All these mayoral and professional politicians want people out of jail not in jail.
I agree with some of your points. JVD should’ve not been put in the stand. He was an awful witness for himself. His hotheadedness was broadcastingly noticeable. Staring down the female attorney didn’t help him either. The judge would’ve slammed him.
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