Fetal - By Law
You know the "stay fetal" movement that has been percolating for the past few years? The old timers preaching to the young'uns that to keep your sanity, paycheck and job, the wisest course of action was to disengage from a community that wants only to sue you, take your house, and get multi-million dollar judgements against you? We weren't joking.
Now look what has been introduced in the Illinois legislature (THIS IS NOT A JOKE):
Now look what has been introduced in the Illinois legislature (THIS IS NOT A JOKE):
- Short Description: CRIM PRO-QUESTION W/O ARREST
House Sponsors: La Shawn K. Ford
Hearings: Judiciary - Criminal Committee Hearing Feb 26 2019 3:00PM Capitol Building Room 118 Springfield, IL
Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Code of Criminal Procedure of 1963. Provides that a peace officer shall not stop any person in a public place based upon an officer's inference from the circumstances that the person is committing, is about to commit, or has committed an offense as defined in the Code. Eliminates a provision requiring an officer to provide the person with a stop receipt that provides the reason for the stop and contains the officer's name and badge number. Makes conforming changes. Effective immediately.
Did you catch that? No, not the part about eliminating the stop receipt. The part where conducting a Terry Stop - the most basic of all police work, defined by the US Supreme Court and recognized nationwide as a lawful police action - is completely disallowed. A receipt isn't necessary any more because ALL STREET STOPS WOULD BE OUTLAWED BY STATUTE.
- you see someone hanging out in a known narcotics hotspot, fitting a given description, engaging in conversation with passersby, exchanging small objects for green slips of paper? No stop allowed;
- you observe someone with a burning piece of rolled up paper on a CTA platform, expelling a whitish vapor from their mouth, and discarding the paper onto the ground? No stop allowed;
- you see someone standing with their hands up in the air, while one or more persons rifles through their pockets, removing phones, wallets, other property? No stop allowed
Your observations as a police office would now be invalid according to LaShawn K. Ford's House Bill 0186. The Terry Stop would be no more. "Fetal" has been written into this bill and has already passed from First Reading to the Rules Committee on to the Judiciary - Criminal Committee and is currently awaiting action in the subcommittee.
Illinois politicians have to be among the stupidest people alive, and LaShawn Ford wins (hands down) the "Too Dumb to Breathe Unassisted" award for 2019.
If police work isn't dead, it will be if this passes. And even if it doesn't pass, guess what the prevailing attitude of the legislature is and which direction it's headed? Save yourself, your job and your freedom.
Illinois politicians have to be among the stupidest people alive, and LaShawn Ford wins (hands down) the "Too Dumb to Breathe Unassisted" award for 2019.
If police work isn't dead, it will be if this passes. And even if it doesn't pass, guess what the prevailing attitude of the legislature is and which direction it's headed? Save yourself, your job and your freedom.
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
189 Comments:
Are you kidding pass it! My job will be much easier making 100K doing shit and a front seat to the circus.
LaShawn Ford is obviously one dumb mfckr, but regardless of where this bill goes, i was already fetal and will continue to do so.
Get out of the state ASAP.
Liberal/progressives do not want the police to interfere with common criminals. In the future all policing will be against dissidents and enemies of the state/government. An armed robber is not an enemy of the state, a conservative is.
Well, I for one would NOT be surprised to see the Illinois legislature pass this. The brightest of them can’t add two and two without using their fingers.
If it DOES pass, just stay in the station and wait for calls, like the Fire Dept. Heck, just move into the fire station - the food is pretty good!
Wasn't this guy endorsed by the FOP?
Shiet, if you are voluntarily touring gang/narcotics hot spots, you don't understand your situation.
I hope that you are young enough to start all over once you get out of prison.
Good luck.
It will be a lot cheaper to put up a wall around Chicago and build a City Prison like in the movie - Escape From New York.
Eliminate the Chicago PD completely and go with Cook County Sheriffs only to police the walls - nothing inside the Wall. A LOT of MONEY SAVED!!
ALL neighborhoods would be "Jail", except Downtown. Downtown would only have access through certain railroads and CTA trains that would have no stops, except outside the city and into downtown - NO neighborhood stops.
Chicago would be "Chicago" only in downtown - the rest would be Chicago Prison. Midway and O'Hare would be part of the City and not the Jail part, of course. Police would ONLY serve the City part and be cut down to about 1,000 jobs.
The more you think about this, the "Smart City" idea for Chicago should be exactly that - a City Prison.
Save money in the Billions every day. This way it could be a Sanctuary City as well -- inside the Wall.
Farfetched??
Hey- this way every Alderman is like a crime lord over his or her district and in reality, does not sound to be too far from what it is today - except the framework is more formalized.
If anything, wards would be taken over and we would get that reduction in Aldermen that many talk about to "save money for the city". Wards would be overrun and be taken by those Aldermen who are power crazy. Maybe we could get it down to 10-12 wards? A BIG WIN for those who want to cut bloated spending- a lot less Aldermen and staff to pay.
Tom Dart is no Lee Van Cleef so we would have to get a real Sheriff(Warden) who is a real prick to run the Guards - but that would be easy.
Build that Wall!!
So...
The Illinois Legislature has overruled and nullified
the United States Supreme Court?
LaShawn Ford is the sponsor?
FUBU legislation...
For Us... By Us...
"The New Equality" centers on peeling away
Police Authority to enforce the laws of the land.
Whoops...
U.S. Law is "racist" and will not be enforced.
Never you mind that U.S. Law is the very foundation
upon which all other laws are established.
"Down with everybody!"
(Who isn't US)
"Overthrow EVERYTHING!"
(That WE don't like)
The United States Marshals should be
surrounding the Illinois Capitol building
right now over this subversive/seditious shit...
If this is allowed to pass, expect a whole lot
more lyin', cryin' and funeralizin' on the
South and West sides.
Look.
Point & Laugh.
Leave.
Police Like You Have No Friends.
"Why y'all actin' like y'all
don't care about US?"
Because you make it so easy?
Didnt Ford get charged a few years back by the Feds, how does this guy still have a job? Illinois will elect anyone.
If the Supreme Court already made a ruling and Ford is attempting to create new law that sidesteps the Supreme Courts ruling, couldnt that be easily challenged? How about the FOP, seems like a police related issue.
Seriously, time to leave Illinois this place is going down faster than the Titanic.
illinois, home of the criminals and illegals... everyone else left long ago.
It's clear that the DemonRAT Party is taking care of its primary element: criminals.
Let the Supervisors know we are on the same team. The war on police effects us all. Please take care of your beat officers. The officers that show up every day and eat sheet. Please set clout aside and recognize your officers. I fear for the department and city. We are the last line of defense.
Guess what? The bosses won't be able to tell you to make stops. They will have to concentrate their efforts on getting bus & park checks. This will be like that tv commerical where the bank is getting robbed and the people tell the guy dressed up in the bank guard's uniform, "Aren't you going to do anything", and he replies, "Oh I am not a bank guard, I am a bank monitor." Give them what they want, do nothing, it will get interesting over time.
time to put the bunks and kitchens and tvs and workout rooms and a nice brass pole in the district stations. maybe elevators for the chubbys. only come when called by the munnity. maybe have the bell system too so you know how many p.o. s are needed on a call. respond, code and get back before the food gets cold. give the peoples what they want, the customer is always right. the bwc s turned out to be a goodthing, on call reactive policing might actually be a great stress reliever. the politicians and police brass dont want anyone arrested, the courts dont want to try anyone and the jails dont want any inmates. as a bonus the revrunds and media might finally take a shine to you. hopefully after working out and taking a nice steam, having a great sit down meal instead of some fast food crap and watching a couple hours of sitcoms followed by a nice nap with your own my pillow, you might feel like pouring concrete or building garages like the firemen. dont fight it. embrace that pod next to your bed. the future is here. be the change!
La Shawn Ford is just what the citizens of Illinois wanted, another "Useful Idiot" in the legislature. He is what the Progressive Democratic Party wanted. Congratulations Democrat's. You wanted one Party to control our State and now you have it. Every State Office is held by a Democrat.
Well now that you have total control of our State, what are you going to do with it. Will your Democratic hacks in Springfield allow the proposed Bill to be made law? You can't blame Republicans anymore. You own it. The drive by shootings and killings in Chicago and elsewhere will explode. Much of your voting base will be killing each other.
Should this Bill pass, as well as your progressive taxes, gun control, sanctuary state/cities and out of control spending you guys will be very lonely. If you think you saw people fleeing this State as quick as they did in the past several years, you ain't seen nothing yet. You better get cracking and get more illegals to replenish the voting base in order to make up for the increased body count.
If Jaba the Hut spent $171 M of his own money to win (buy) the Governor's Office he can surely write a check for all the fleeing tax payers in order to make up the difference.
This crap and I hope it’s not true, but I worked 12 years on midnights since 30Apr01. Your driving alone, with a person that has no time, a Copper you’d rather not work with, and so on. The Job is a hard job. The Civilian that believes we spend all our time in D&D I’d love to discuss that topic with them.
Recently I heard “EVERY TIME” a Copper draws he/she has to fill out paperwork. If that’s true the Essential Service that’s already dangerous will be that much more dangerous. Who’s gonna cover my Beat while I’m writing why I feel I’m in defense of my Life. When I first got on the deal was draw when you feel it’s a necessary. Maybe you saw something the others didn’t. It was something I never thought about so as to make drawing one’s weapon reflexive. This was taught in 026 by the way. Cleaning, field stripping, practice with snap caps so your draw comes out like a professional. Off target, off trigger, but God Forbid it’s on target, on trigger I don’t want a trivial extra thought in there.
Remember that cat lover Fed Weiss? Outdoor roll call in 006 and he heads for the hills? We were duped cuz he was as much a Street Cop as “Irion Mike” Ryan.
The Police Officer shouldn’t be questioned as to why he drew his weapon. It’ll hurt those I truly respect, The Street Copper.
Robert Plant a few years back brought a guitar in Guitar Center for tuning. GC called A/3 to simply report it. I’m sure if Jimmy Page is in your Band he may have taught The Rock God how to tune his own guitar. Turns out “Fool in the Rain” vocalist actually liked Wrigleyville. So he asked GC 2 do it.
We found Mr. Plant and I drew my weapon. The last thing I wanted to do in front of ANYONE in Led Zeppelin, but I heard that whistle. U know the whistle. The one that says knock him out and take his shit.
Mr. Plant was given a full explanation of why he had to see that.
We offered Led Zep’s Lead Singer a ride to which he said yes. While in the car Mr. Plant wanted to know what it’s like to be a Cop in Chicago? We traded him. What was it like to play with Bonzo? Mr. Plant told us the reverb on “When the Levee Breaks” was by pure accident. They cleared everything out of the mansion they used to record and the living room created a natural reverb. Zeppelin didn’t know until late in the Album.
Hell Naw will something happen to Mr. Plant while we were up there.
He spoke of his OWN Country taxing him at an absurd amount if he graces the shores while his Wife was sick and his five year old boy was fighting for his Life which eventually lost.
C/O Kenny was Bono’s guide when Chicago had U2’s Day. They are the exact same age. Kenny, as decent as he was, couldn’t name one U2 Song.
We invited Them, not the other way around. You’d think just one U2 Song, but nada.
There are hundreds or thousands of bills introduced into the state legislature every year that go absolutely nowhere. A few of these bills get passed in forms that are completely different than what the original text said. You can't get excited about this kind of nonsense. It's just plain not going to pass.
This is not a lot different than the bills that NRA Affiliated Congressman introduced into the House of Representatives every year to Force all states to accept all other states concealed carry licenses. The fix is in. They know it will just quietly die eventually but in the meantime they can use it as a red meat issue.
So it begins, emasculate the police, the begining of the revolution
Can they make a law more restrictive than that allowed by a US Supreme Court ruling?
COMSTAT will explode. I guess the community really does not want proactive policing. So for the last eight years the bosses have lied to us? Siezures only based upon pc probably with a signed complaint in hand, this job gets easier each year. Thanks Gerry!
Hopefully someone keeps track of this and announces when law abiding citizens need to post witness slips to try and stop this bullshit. Between this and the anti gun crowd filing stupid bills its hard to keep track pf them all. This is getting ridiculous. Crime is not bad enough yet they want to make it even worse AND take away your right to defend yourself and family.
With all the anti-gun bills they're pushing now they really are wanting to turn the state into Venezuela or something.
Generally, the Rules committee means it is dead....But do not let the fact escape you that it got there..And also remember the Juvenile Justice law....
I hope it does pass, AND when it passes, I can't wait to decorate the station just like the Fire houses. 4K LCD TV with Cable and with Netflix and 8 recliners. It will be glorious working on CPD. Citizens (future victims) just call us when you have complaints signed with video and minimum 3 witnesses.
Uhhhhhhh, as you said SCC, it literally makes it illegal to stop anyone. If I see a guy shoot a guy in the face, I still can’t stop him the way this is written. My inference from the circumstances, me turning the corner east bound, seeing person A holding a metallic object to person B’s head, then seeing a flash from the metallic object held by person A, while also hearing what R/O believes to be a gunshot. Person B then collapses, there’s blood everywhere, people are running and screaming. R/O, given the circumstances, believes that person A has just shot person B in the face in violation of illinois criminal statutes, but given state law recently passed, R/O is not allowed to stop person A. Brilliant. I’m down for this. Since it’s illegal to stop anyone, we can’t arrest anyone. Which means all these shit head judges, states attorneys, and public defenders can all go suck a dick and sit in the unemployment line like they deserve. They dont do shit anyways. I love this bill, I vote YES!
Great, even less work for the beat cop.
i think ford would make a fine mayor.
this fetal by statute is awesome.
let the fucker burn. burn it all.
Visionary. Trendsetter. Early adopter.
Call it what you want, but I was fetal when fetal wasn’t cool.
La Shawn K. Ford could arguably be charged with genocide for promoting this atrocity. Only thing? We don’t care anymore. Carry on, savages.
Arizona Cop Takes Down Knife-Wielding Jihadist
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-02-22/body-cam-video-they-dont-want-you-see-arizona-cop-takes-down-knife-wielding
This individual's brain has been warped by years of activist influences and racial false narratives. Only a damn fool would think like this.
What will they discuss at compstat?
Best idea I've ever seen.... Give em what they want
In the future, we will no longer be Chicago police but Chicago security guards. Chicago security guards will be paid half of what the old CPD 1835-2019 use to make , no pension, less benefits. Use of force, not allowed if someone tries to attack you, you have to run.
To me the future doesn’t look bright. I love being a Chicago police officer. I know a lot of verterns will say I should leave and go to another state. But it’s not just this state this is happening all over the country. What is with America and all of these anti law and order politicians. Why in society do we have leaders supporting the criminal element and this type of non sense. Where will America be in 5 years 10 years and etc !!! I don’t even want to have kids because I don’t see a bright future for my kids. Like always please everyone stay safe and make it home to your family, friends no matter what!!!
My flee this hell hole plan just went on steroids. She must have many relatives in prison for hands up, I see it, I want it, I'm taking it, and other nefarious crimes.
Can't wait til it passes and one of the dumb lieislators or their families, is the victim of a terrible crime instead of fpisting cime on us. Don't wish it on anyone, but it's bound to happen.
Arm up and move out people!
Stay safe
On November 29, 2012, Ford was indicted on charges of bank fraud alleging he provided misleading evidence to obtain a $500,000 extension on a line of credit. The charges state he used the money for personal expenses rather than rehabilitating an owned property, as stated in the loan documentation. On August 4, 2014, all 17 felony counts of bank fraud and false information against Ford were dropped by federal prosecutors in exchange for his pleading guilty to a single misdemeanor income tax charge, and Ford's trial was removed from the federal docket
Again, pandering for votes! Where is the concern for the Citizens & Tourists that live and visit here? This sounds like utter and complete lawlessness. To a law abidding, tax paying citizen, this sounds horrible! After reading this, I am left with an urgent feeling that if I could move today I would. When I am able to, I won't care if it requires a short-sale on the crib. Anything to get out of this real-life horror show
He’s actually running for mayor of Chicago too
To 2/25/2019 01:20:00 AM
That has to be the biggest pile of mish mosh I've read here! Huh, what?? You drew down on Robert Plant because he wanted his guitar tuned??? My Lord, I woulda been asking for his autograph. Here's a tip, Pal, don't blog when drunk.
Everyone take a frickin deep breath. Just like anyone can file a lawsuit against anyone - you can sue a hamburger - it doesn’t mean the lawsuit has merit or that it won’t be dismissed for whatever reason. Same is true in the legislature. Any legislator can file a bill to do whatever stupid idea he or she has - doesn’t mean it’ll pass both chambers and be signed into law by the governor. Procedurally, if a bill is sent to a subcommittee, it’s a very strong indication it’s going nowhere. In fact, most bills filed are done so with no intent of passing it but instead to cynically use in their next campaign ad or brochure. Rep. Ford is running for mayor and if he has any chance (arguably none from my standpoint), he must maintain his “base.” That is the “community” or whatever else you may wanna call it. By sponsoring this bill he can now go to the black electoral and say “look what I did - I sponsored a bill that would ...blah blah blah.” With no intention of actually passing it. Smart politicians manipulate the system to their advantage. Everyone else should be smart enough to differentiate what’s actually going on. Btw there are enough law and order legislators in the current general assembly to make sure something like this doesn’t actually pass.
The ONLY thing a police officer should be doing today is backing another police officer because no one else will
But then, on the other hand...
When The Police, adapt to the "new" equality/crazy and finally stop
arresting/bothering/defending themselves from/detaining/genociding/
harassing/interfering with/law enforcing/protecting everybody else from
Dude Inc.; will "The Community" FINALLY come to a place where their
Perpetual Grievances are satiated and their "trust" issue with The Police
finally, peacefully and amicably resolved for the good of all?
>Very Pregnant Pause<
>Winter Wind Whistling<
...Or not?
Remember... In THEIR eyes...
That this legislation was even put forward...
Is "Justice" and a "win" for the oppressed Peoples/Folkses/
alphabet soup of aggrieved constituencies/demographic
subsets against The Police and by proxy, the rest of upright,
tax paying and law abiding society...
Right?
Or are we just fucked-up in the head by what we've
spent half our life seeing from behind the wheel of
a Blue & White?
"Why won't you Cops stop fighting US and forget about
that rough and tough manly stuff your Fathers and Grandfathers
taught you about being The Police? Get over it! It isn't 1960
anymore or even 1990. So why don't you guys just calm down
and be the humble "Public Servants" we're paying you to be
and forget about all that other stuff. Okay?"
When politically/culturally/socially weaponized grievance
is finally able to seized the levers governance and legislature.
Police Like You Have No Friends.
Protect Yourselves and Each Other ONLY.
Only an artfully crafted, deliberately charted
course of correction can mitigate this madness.
Until then?
Look.
Point & Laugh.
Leave.
He running for Mayor, right? Same guy?
Welcome to Escape From New York boys and girls. And no Snake Plisken to save it.
I hope this passes because 1)Yeah, give the people (or folks) what they want, 2)as with Terry vs. OH, it likely wouldn't pass SCOTUS muster (based on current composition) due to the reasonableness clause in the 4th amendment, thereby making the IL legislature look like the incompetent fools they are, and 3)the 14th amendment is clear that all the rights, privileges, and immunities contained in the Federal Constitution apply to the states as well.
From the 4th: "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated".
Each of the examples cited above easily pass the reasonableness test.
Seriously - That shit has no life of passing. Calm down and stay fetal.
No bill Lasahwn Ford introduces ever passes. He is an outcast nut job in Springfield. wouldn't worry about this one.
30 Apr. 01? .
Still a rookie.
You can’t just wait in the station like firefighters. Because if you go and stop someone while committing a crime you would be breaking the law.
Mr. Ford's biggest financial backer? The teachers union. Wonder why so many Chicago kids are unemployed? In 2012, he was charged with bank fraud but escaped by pleading guilty to tax charges. And he chairs the committee on Financial Institutions. Wonder why the state is so screwed up.
"This individual's brain has been warped by years of activist influences and racial false narratives. Only a damn fool would think like this".
JUCCY SMOLLETT THINKS THAT WAY.
Lol yet tact will be out rhere today doing it and half you nitwits sweating your beat car will still be doing it today.
It will never pass, however, that is pretty much what we should be doing, let them live the way they want.
Remember if "Illinois politicians have to be among the stupidest people alive'' and you are working for them, so how smart does that make you'?' Get out while you still have your sanity and a chance for a real life somewhere else. If you still want to be police there are other departments that don't treat their employee's like pawns serving the king.
No more numbers, no more contact cards, or even curfews. No traffic stops, or parkers too while they are at it. This will become the easiest 100k job out there. Will Detectives be able to contact people to follow up on crime? Most case reports say time to contact, any. Now they need a law to outline how merit promotions are given to stop all that clout driven non sense.
No, that would make too much sense...
SCC, you did done outdid yourself:
"un-fucking-fucking-believable"
So you're saying i can commit a crime now , even on the job and get away with it? Hmm.
Good.
Not a cop, but a supporter and all I can say is wow. Now I get it. This is the ocean of shit you guys swim in all day.
To all my fucking idiotic left-wing liberal friends, you're fucking idiots.
Someone out there has to realize what the change in law would mean?
It would look like the inmates of Arkum Prison were released across Gotham City.
But we have no Batman to catch them.
So the new police could not use any instinct during a possible arrest?
Only evidence?
How would a warrant arrest take place?
If subject refused to answer we have no reason to bring them in to print them?
Basically, you are not qualified to determine what is a crime or criminal conduct. Just do as you are told, we must empty the jails as they are racist and for profit off of minorities.
Next they will create legal no go zones for police, because the people don't want them there.
That may be a blessing in disguise! Vigilante groups can form, and light up anyone they see fit. News crews, aldercreeps, dope gangs etc.
Wait...... wut??
Best news I have seen here in a long time. It's about time the rest of the CPD gets on the fetal express because it's about to pass you by and all them REAL POLICE will be getting suspended, fired or going to prison. The days of the working police are over, you are not out there doing a noble job for a grateful community, you are just getting BS numbers for bosses that will sell you out in a minute. Give them nothing and expect nothing in return, you don't owe anyone and it's a good feeling. I barely respond to my jobs, write maybe one parker a month and go home stress free. Sitting watching Netflix, playing games and eating all while watching crime spiral out of control. It's good to be a DOG, I make as much as the working police ( take all them SAVM, VRI and CTA) without the nonsense. Being the real police/ working police is for SUCKERS!
765B
Dumb folks would think this is golden.
A so-called Harvard edgamacated former IL senator and rep of questionable Hawaiian descent may have wrote that for him.
Maybe he found a scribbled wishlist draft in desk he got handed down from Kwamato, who inherited it from that Hawaiian predecessor.
Fundamental transformed 21st Century Task Force Policing fools gold.
Basic educated legal scholars understand “Inference” is an after fact to reasonable suspicion.
Is it worth the legal test?
Nope.
Just mind your bidness and keep the criminal case reports coming.
I don't care.......
Whats the problem, this is what you have been promoting for a long time. stay fetal.
I’m shocked reading comments like,” oh I can’t wait”, “yeah bring it in”, are you fucking morons? You still live in this state and the city, it just a matter of time when you or members of your family will be affected. Think about it.
On November 29, 2012, Ford was indicted on charges of bank fraud alleging he provided misleading evidence to obtain a $500,000 extension on a line of credit. The charges state he used the money for personal expenses rather than rehabilitating an owned property, as stated in the loan documentation.[1] On August 4, 2014, all 17 felony counts of bank fraud and false information against Ford were dropped by federal prosecutors in exchange for his pleading guilty to a single misdemeanor income tax charge, and Ford's trial was removed from the federal docket.
All boxes on your report will use the unknown classification for gender.
All involved, victim, offender, witness, will be marked as such.
Same with race.
Does anybody know if Jimmy Dogs still gives free Hot Dogs??
10 Rules for modern Police Originally wrote after the Rodney King Riot
1 Only Arrest on signed complaints
2 Never "On View" anything except as an excuse to stay down.
3 No Street Stops
4 No traffic Stops
5 No parking tickets except for #1
6 Lights and siren only for a 10-1
7 Paper jobs take at least an hour
8 Always take lunch
9 Always take at least 1 personal
10 When in doubt DO NOTHING
So if police work is dead then lawyer work should be dead too. no criminals no need for a laywer
And another proposed bill as well SCC.http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/BillStatus.asp?DocNum=56&GAID=15&DocTypeID=HB&SessionID=108&GA=101&fbclid=IwAR0tSdhG1oKCCX0IpBtscM7YCRZAFq4i-qeEq5-T_RfbUMtaiDd4OlSnKvQ
It's alway been a very ver serious game of hide and seek where the criminal hides and the law seeks. But now it's the police who must hide for fear any action they take may cause them their job, media castration, or their freedom.
Your all on notice that your job is about to be eliminated. You cannot, chanson foor or in car, shoot, taze, defend yourself, stop a crime in progress, detectives cannot solve homicides. Why are we paying you. Hire a bunch of file clerks to go any crime scene and fill out paperwork a $20/hr job. Predict a big manpower cut in next budget if this passes who needs a "12,000" man police force standing around or sleeping in their cars. Be very careful what you wish for. As to the politicians being the stupidest I challenge tat comment. It is the voters that keep these people in power that are the stupid ones. Yes Virginia ALL ILLINOIS VOTERS ARE STUPID ESPECIALLY THE DEMOCRATIC VOTERS. But I voted Republican you say, I say your stupid for staying in thatbstate and continuing to vote there and pay their taxes. Collar counties in In, Wi, Mo and Ia should be having a building boom to meet the housing demands of SMART Illinois citizens leaving state. Those counties are all close enough to commute from or stay lose to any realities you have to. As to the city workers that "have" to live in city. Wake up fools every other city with those rules have lost court challenges. To the Stupid ones staying I say STFU you deserve your plight.
Should get rid of all the DUI checkpoints in the state.
Anonymous said...
“Can they make a law more restrictive than that allowed by a US Supreme Court ruling?”
sure. See all Cook county gun laws.
Ford is the dumbest mf’r on earth but I’m sure this shit is burried inside of some other bill that’s going absolutely nowhere. But by some miracle it passes i would rethink retirement and stay on the job to do absolutely nothing but drive around and wave as people get robbed, raped and killed since i can’t infer a crime is being committed. How da fuck do you wake up in the am and think this shit up. How fucking stupid can you be.
Kiss Illinois good bye!!! I highly doubt J.B. will go for this silliness. He may be a Democrat but he knows how bad something like that could be.
I like the old cop movies where all the squad cars are parked at the station and a big call comes in. You see all the cars racing out of the station with lights and siren. That is what will be the future of CPD. Only answer when called.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dswz1-ohhGk
Awesome, pass it already. Who gives a fuck. I don’t wanna do anything anyway and I can’t understand why anyone else would either. Just give reports, no driving around anymore. Save gas. Park car and wait for another call. Makes my job so easy.
The long term un-intended consequence to this will be the rise of automatic photographic identification systems. As time goes by technology will make computer systems that will be able to process data in real time, not like today's automatic license plate reader systems and their delayed response. What these political idiots don't realize (or maybe they do) is they will eventually create a George Orwell 1984 society, one that you see currently taking shaping in China. And remember, it was Chicago's native son, Sparklefarts, who once told the Chinese he had a pesky little thing to deal with, the U.S. Constitution.
And no one ever called cops racist again.
Chicago is a great place... to be a criminal.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Can they make a law more restrictive than that allowed by a US Supreme Court ruling?
2/25/2019 01:36:00 AM
I hope you are kidding. You are correct in a sense that state laws can be made more restrictive that federal laws when it comes to criminal statues like as if federal law states that legal speed limit is 70, a state can make its speed limit 60. I’m pretty sure a state cannot change a Supreme Court ruling.
I am on a team. I can't tell you which one. But I will keep being proactive. I need to keep my spot.
I am really ok with this. Free money for me.
LaShawn K. Ford is Legislatively Lynching the police.
If u have half a brain youve been abiding by this anyways for atleast the last 5 years.
Where is the leadership at 35th Street? No comment by Special Ed? Time to step up to the plate and put this legislation on display. Call out those who seek to neuter your mission to enforce the laws and maintain a lawful society. I know this LaShawn Ford is a democrat, but your responsibilities are not to the democrat party, but the good citizens of Chicago. Call him out and put him in the hot seat accountable to his constituents along with those fellow democrats in collusion who support this draconian legislation.
Great idea! Squad hold me down at Dugans for the rest of my tour.
"The Illinois Legislature has overruled and nullified the United States Supreme Court?"
No, the state, under the policing powers of the tenth amendment, can prove higher but not lower protection.
So, yes they can do this.
What is does mean is that officers who apply the Maranda standard will not be sued un 1983 inasmuch as the federal constitution has not been offended.
Who cares? The democrats think that people who use narcotics are victims; unwed motherhood should be celebrated. Obama has moved the ghetto into what had been nice, middle class neighborhoods.
Half a century or so ago an old state narcotics agent gave me this advise: "Big case, big caca, little case no caca." Those are words to live by.
We are the only country in the world that voluntarily reduced itself from first world to third.
In reference to post of 2/25/2019 12:26:00 AM
Escape from New York exterior filming was done in East St Louis.
It looks much worse now.
If this would happen to go thru our union should fight for a CFD schedule. We can work 24 hour shifts if we are only doing reactive policing! Then we all buy cottages to live at on our two days off
I'll say this again and again,don't foot chase,don't car chase,don't even stop anyone. Just answer the radio and go to your calls. The ACLU is ANTI POLICE and doesn't want police doing the above. Be safe and God Bless
unbelievable
Anonymous Anonymous said...
There are hundreds or thousands of bills introduced into the state legislature every year that go absolutely nowhere. A few of these bills get passed in forms that are completely different than what the original text said. You can't get excited about this kind of nonsense. It's just plain not going to pass.
2/25/2019 01:27:00 AM
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But it sure is a "raising of the curtain" to show what many, many people think of police today. AND it shows how much of a POS La Shawn K. Ford happens to be.
This doesn't put cops in a fetal position, it sends a Terminator back to the 1980s and kills their mothers.
I say we call our state reps and senators and advocate FOR passing this bill! I would inform them that if they do not pass it they would be raaaaaaaaaacist!!!!
Don't be to sure this won't pass with a few changes. The out the goofs on the committee going over it.
Google his name regarding his 2012 indictment and 2017 guilty plea. How the fuck is this MFer still in office????
defend Ft. Apache...defend the homeland.
Synopsis As Introduced
Creates the Peace Officer Accountability Act. Provides that before a peace officer is permitted to carry a firearm in the unit of government in which he or she is employed, the peace officer must either: (1) live in the unit of government in which he or she serves; or (2) complete 200 hours of specified work or training. Provides that the unit of government shall require each peace officer employed by the unit of government before entering upon the officer's duties to have a liability insurance policy. Provides that the public shall have access to all documents concerning promotions, which documents are subject to disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act. Provides that each peace officer, before discharging his or her duties as a peace officer, shall sign an affidavit declaring that he or she will report all unethical and unlawful conduct of other peace officers immediately to the internal affairs division of the department. Provides that the exclusive representative of a peace officer bargaining unit may not enter into a contract or collective bargaining agreement with the department that permits unconstitutional conduct by peace officers. Amends the Illinois Police Training Act. Provides that the minimum standards for police academies shall include 20 hours of race relations training, acquaintance with the youth residing in the unit of government in which the officers will serve, when discharging a firearm, the avoidance of the use of deadly force except when necessary to protect the life of the officer and on methods of using less than deadly force to disarm a suspect. Provides annual 20 hours of training of peace officers in race relations and constitutional methods of the use of force. Amends various other Acts to make conforming changes.
Amends the State Police Act. Provides that it is not a requirement of a person filing a complaint against a State Police Officer to have a complaint supported by a sworn affidavit or any other legal documentation (rather than anyone filing a complaint filing a complaint against a State Police Officer must have the complaint supported by a sworn affidavit). Amends the Uniform Peace Officers' Disciplinary Act. Provides that it is not a requirement of a person filing a complaint against a sworn peace officer to have the complaint supported by a sworn affidavit or any other legal documentation (rather than anyone filing a complaint against a sworn peace officer must have the complaint supported by a sworn affidavit). Provides that the provision is a limitation of power on home rule units under the Illinois Constitution.
Amends the Hospital Licensing Act and the Code of Criminal Procedure of 1963. Provides that each licensed hospital shall designate patient-care areas under rules adopted by the Department of Public Health. These areas shall include examination and operating rooms and out-patient care areas of the hospital. Provides that each licensed hospital shall post a sign of a type and size specified by the Department of Public Health in a conspicuous place at the entrance of each patient-care area of the hospital stating that peace officers may not enter the area without the knowing consent of the health supervisor or a valid search warrant. Provides that each hospital shall designate one of its staff as a health supervisor. Provides that the health supervisor shall be the person designated by the hospital to communicate and interact with peace officers including about the treatment and care being provided at the hospital to a person in the peace officer's custody who is being treated at the hospital. Provides that the health supervisor shall be a hospital administrator or other person in charge of supervising nurses at the hospital but who is not providing treatment to patients. Amends the Unified Code of Corrections and the Sex Offender Registration Act. Deletes provisions that require DNA submissions of persons charged with certain offenses and of each registered sex offender to the Department of State Police for DNA analysis. Deletes provisions that the detention, arrest, or conviction of a person based upon a database match or database information is not invalidated if it is determined that the specimen was obtained or placed in the database by mistake.
Amends the Illinois Public Labor Relations Act. Provides that on or after the effective date of the amendatory Act, any provision in a collective bargaining agreement that would limit the ability of a public employer to investigate the conduct of an employee of the public employer is declared to be against public policy and unenforceable unless the limitation is otherwise required by State or federal law. Amends the State Police Act. Provides that the Department of State Police shall adopt a procedure to bypass the requirement that a complaint must be supported by a sworn affidavit against a State Police Officer. Amends the Uniform Peace Officers' Disciplinary Act. Provides that every unit of local government with a law enforcement agency, and every law enforcement agency not part of a unit of local government, shall establish procedures to bypass the requirement that the complaint must be supported by a sworn affidavit against a sworn peace officer.
Ot but are taxpayers on the hook for Kimesha going to the Oscars and Eddie going to a PR interview in New York?!?!?! How about staying here and doing the job you are paid to fucking do??? She can recuse herself from her job but has no problem partying with Hollywood and he bitches about the amount of media coverage there is but there he is promoting it. Wtf??
If only.
If only there were no police.
If only there were no police actively enforcing the laws.
If only there were no police at all.
Then, what?
What do they really think would be the result, if only there were no police?
First: the lawyers. They gotta go.
Then, if any survived, the politicians. They gotta go.
Then, the dirty work begins.
The shitheads. They know they gotta go, and, unlike the lawyers/politicians, they know, that, being as there are no longer any police, it's gonna get ugly. Real ugly. Real quick. Just like it does.
Except, they, the shitheads, will never see it coming. Because, they, the shitheads, still will never think it will come from where they are sure it never comes, sure because of the presence of police, the police who are no longer present.
Glorious days, and nights, ahead, if these idiots succeed in removing the police from the equation.
Ah hunting we shall go, ah hunting we shall go.......
I thought this was satire. Give the people (or folks) what they want!
So as this is written, what would CPD do in an active shooter situation? For example, a shooter in Grant Park. CPD can't touch that! If the shooter is committing a crime, Don't you DARE stop him! Makes Sense.
Be safe CPD.
What an ugly, sad state of affairs.
1:20 AM, I know exacrly what you are saying after I read it twice.
If this passes I am buying stock in Funeral Parlors, Casket Companies and liquor makers!
Al Sharpton and Father Faker will support this!
Never happen. It's utter nonsense by a grandstanding, irrelevant politician.
I reasonably believe my bank account will increase on the 1st and the 16th. I can also properly articulate it. Thanks Chicago.
Maybe this is a way to reduce spending? If the police are "doing less" shouldn't a reduction in the force follow? Not the smartest way to cut spending but voters want less policing anyway so give them what they want.
La Shawn Ford has a degree from Loyola University in Chicago. That school now has a rep of being in the toilet and graduating some of the dumbest fucking clowns in recent memory. Way to reflect that glory, La Shawn Ford! Way to shine!
Wtf Is this bullshit he can go where he wants I guess since he is Hollywood no restrictions;
Jussie Smollett allowed to travel to New York, California while awaiting trial
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-met-jussie-smollett-travel-20190225-story.html
Lets think of this from the liberal's point of view: If the suspected criminals need to give consent to be arrested, an extension of this proposed law as would be logical to soon come, then all the hardship of arresting persons would be less since there would be less arrests. Nice!
If there is no consent to be arrested, no arrest can occur. Prior to that, a law such as this idea from Ford just makes sure that no police work can be done hence the likelihood of fewer arrests even being considered will result. Sweet!
With no arrests, there will be no crime! No crime means a happy and safe world with unicorn magic rainbow farts! Global warming can also be solved and all hate and harm will vanish too, somehow.
THINK ABOUT IT: If it were illegal to kill anyone, no one would have to fear getting murdered... MAGIC! There ought to be a law!
The superintendent showed balls by calling out the fake smollet, I wonder if he can be real enough to dismantle the bullshit known as compstat, something that's not even his baby. were not the police anymore just getting numbers, he should know that or he has no balls to make a stand against it. we have commanders pushing this bullshit all the way down to street officers. please show us your better than the idiot mccarthy.
There are hundreds or thousands of bills introduced into the state legislature every year that go absolutely nowhere. A few of these bills get passed in forms that are completely different than what the original text said. You can't get excited about this kind of nonsense. It's just plain not going to pass.
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You're probably right but it just shows the modern day madness of dems
These idiots are trying to make Illinois the abortion capitol of this country. This state is going to Hell in a handbasket. Jay Bee seems to be proud of this. Effin genocide seems to be DemocRats claim to fame.
Anonymous said...
I hope it does pass, AND when it passes, I can't wait to decorate the station just like the Fire houses. 4K LCD TV with Cable and with Netflix and 8 recliners. It will be glorious working on CPD.
I'm sure the Indian guy in 025 tact is lickin his chops to run next years super bowl squares if this happens .. Heard he bought a new car from the profits from all the idiots who bought squares for the big prize of a TV.
Ali baba suckers!!
Anonymous said...
The ONLY thing a police officer should be doing today is backing another police officer because no one else will
2/25/2019 05:49:00 AM
look at the bright side of this. You don't need to back anyone up if everyone is fetal and does nothing. Ford is an idiot whose only platform when running for office is " anti-Trump". Too dumb to say or think up anything else. And, you can bet that Toni feels the same way.
OT: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mz8Uncxd1UQ
EJ on the GMA show?
LaShawn Ford is an anti-police IDIOT and an ACLU **ORE and he wants to be Mayor No way
A couple people have pointed out that just because a bill is introduced does not mean it is going anywhere. That's true, and in this case, it probably is an effort by Ford to impress his base (he apparently honestly believes he has a chance in the mayoral race). However, the mere fact that this got introduced, and the fact that there are no doubt some legislators who think "great idea--we should do that" is terrifying. The Dems have a supermajority in the house and senate and own the governors mansion for the next 4 years. This is the type of shit that could (could, not will, but could) get through. All bets are off at this point, and any citizen who is even remotely concerned with public safety issues should be very worried about this.
Soooo much pandering to those who break laws, our legislatures are unbelievably stupid.
It ain’t your papa’s poleeces. Read the tea leaves.smarten up.
Detroit times 5 = Chicago.
NOT ILLINOIS. NOT LAW.
it will be just like the fire dept.only respond when called from station.
Somewhat O.T.
My kid just got hired by CFD and will be in the class starting March 1st. He told me that out of the 85 recruits present for final processing 11 of them are currently CPD and another 4 coppers from outside agencies. I’m retired CPD after 32 years and this number seems high to me. Don’t ever remember thinking about leaving to becoming a firefighter or even hearing about too many guys that switched back then but I guess it’s a sign of the times. It’s a shame what’s happening to our proud profession, but I guess the handwriting has been on the wall for awhile now. Stay safe and cope with the changes that are coming the best you can remember it’s only a paycheck.
God Bless
LaShawn is a complete and total dumb ass crook and also a friend of another clown, Bob Goofioretti.
Can they make a law more restrictive than that allowed by a US Supreme Court ruling?Can they make a law more restrictive than that allowed by a US Supreme Court ruling?
Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968), was a decision by the United States Supreme Court which held that the Fourth Amendment prohibition on unreasonable searches and seizures is not violated when a police officer stops a suspect on the street and frisks him or her without probable cause to arrest, if the police officer has a reasonable suspicion that the person has committed, is committing, or is about to commit a crime and has a reasonable belief that the person "may be armed and presently dangerous."
For their own protection, after a person has been stopped, police may perform a quick surface search of the person's outer clothing for weapons if they have reasonable suspicion that the person stopped is armed. This reasonable suspicion must be based on "specific and articulable facts" and not merely upon an officer's hunch. This permitted police action has subsequently been referred to in short as a "stop and frisk," or simply a "Terry frisk".
WHAT IS FOP CHICAGO AND STATE AND NATIONAL DOING?
Methinks La Shawn has a room temperature IQ.
You couldn’t make that shit up if you tried.
The sponsor of this bill has reportedly had" R Kelly" moments with an 17 year old girl from the west side. This is on top of the half million dollar felony fraud case the feds almost pinged him on..
Not gossip, or rumor , its truth.
The only good thing about a bill like this is it shows you exactly who Ford panders to.
There is no laws to support police in the pipeline. Where are all the politicians that asked for out support and said they will back us?
Not a chance this will ever pass. It goes against the Supreme Court.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This crap and I hope it’s not true, but I worked 12 years on midnights since 30Apr01. Your driving alone, with a person that has no time, a Copper you’d rather not work with, and so on. The Job is a hard job. The Civilian that believes we spend all our time in D&D I’d love to discuss that topic with them.
Recently I heard “EVERY TIME” a Copper draws he/she has to fill out paperwork. If that’s true the Essential Service that’s already dangerous will be that much more dangerous. Who’s gonna cover my Beat while I’m writing why I feel I’m in defense of my Life. When I first got on the deal was draw when you feel it’s a necessary. Maybe you saw something the others didn’t. It was something I never thought about so as to make drawing one’s weapon reflexive. This was taught in 026 by the way. Cleaning, field stripping, practice with snap caps so your draw comes out like a professional. Off target, off trigger, but God Forbid it’s on target, on trigger I don’t want a trivial extra thought in there.
Remember that cat lover Fed Weiss? Outdoor roll call in 006 and he heads for the hills? We were duped cuz he was as much a Street Cop as “Irion Mike” Ryan.
The Police Officer shouldn’t be questioned as to why he drew his weapon. It’ll hurt those I truly respect, The Street Copper.
Robert Plant a few years back brought a guitar in Guitar Center for tuning. GC called A/3 to simply report it. I’m sure if Jimmy Page is in your Band he may have taught The Rock God how to tune his own guitar. Turns out “Fool in the Rain” vocalist actually liked Wrigleyville. So he asked GC 2 do it.
We found Mr. Plant and I drew my weapon. The last thing I wanted to do in front of ANYONE in Led Zeppelin, but I heard that whistle. U know the whistle. The one that says knock him out and take his shit.
Mr. Plant was given a full explanation of why he had to see that.
We offered Led Zep’s Lead Singer a ride to which he said yes. While in the car Mr. Plant wanted to know what it’s like to be a Cop in Chicago? We traded him. What was it like to play with Bonzo? Mr. Plant told us the reverb on “When the Levee Breaks” was by pure accident. They cleared everything out of the mansion they used to record and the living room created a natural reverb. Zeppelin didn’t know until late in the Album.
Hell Naw will something happen to Mr. Plant while we were up there.
He spoke of his OWN Country taxing him at an absurd amount if he graces the shores while his Wife was sick and his five year old boy was fighting for his Life which eventually lost.
C/O Kenny was Bono’s guide when Chicago had U2’s Day. They are the exact same age. Kenny, as decent as he was, couldn’t name one U2 Song.
We invited Them, not the other way around. You’d think just one U2 Song, but nada
This is an awful long post just to drop a few names, anybody else out here really give a shit?
Yes! I've been retired for 5 years but now I'm coming back! 100k for doing nothing? Ohhhh yes
Nothing is going to happen. He's posturing!!
Interesting thing about requiring police officers to obtain their own liability insurance is that it is less likely that a private insurance company will roll over and play dead in defending themselves and their officer client. That could limit the "ghetto" lottery, not a good thing for the "community."
Anybody have info if the 003 commander is getting relieved?
Maybe Ford doesn’t know Chicago is MAGA a country now!
Just think, if only some copper had made a Terry Stop on two suspicious males wearing MAGA hats in Chicago late at night in a severe winter storm. That might have been enough to prevent the very real attack on Jussie Smollett.
This guy sounds like he could be a future Illinois governor.
This is awesome. Let it pass. Why are people so mad about this. Sounds like our job got a lot more easier. More time to watch Netflix and sports. Let’s not fight this. embrace it and enjoy the easier work days
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Interesting thing about requiring police officers to obtain their own liability insurance is that it is less likely that a private insurance company will roll over and play dead in defending themselves and their officer client. That could limit the "ghetto" lottery, not a good thing for the "community."
2/25/2019 07:44:00 PM
Not that easy as it seems. City doesn’t always just roll over and play dead. They settle cases to prevent a larger liability The way juries are giving away judgements it not always prudent to leave it in a jury’s hands
Anonymous said...
"The Illinois Legislature has overruled and nullified
the United States Supreme Court?"
No, the state, under the policing powers of the tenth amendment,
can prove higher but not lower protection.
So, yes they can do this..."
2/25/2019 11:08:00 AM
Perhaps not overruled and nullified...
But this is definitely NOT a case of higher protection.
Given the clear and apparent danger it poses,
it is plainly a deliberate diminishment of said protection.
LaFord's legislation is a direct endangerment
to the public peace, safety and well being.
A direct subversion of the SCOTUS ruling
on Terry vs. Ohio.
You cannot "carve out" parts of SCOTUS rulings
to not abide by because of loyalty to an aggrieved,
politically weaponized constituency.
If such were the case, this entire nation
would fall into chaos as every state legislature
will have air/opportunity to pick and choose which
laws, rulings and perhaps even Constitutional
Amendments they want to abide by or not.
This slope is slippery...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Somewhat O.T.
My kid just got hired by CFD and will be in the class starting March 1st. He told me that out of the 85 recruits present for final processing 11 of them are currently CPD and another 4 coppers from outside agencies. I’m retired CPD after 32 years and this number seems high to me. Don’t ever remember thinking about leaving to becoming a firefighter or even hearing about too many guys that switched back then but I guess it’s a sign of the times. It’s a shame what’s happening to our proud profession, but I guess the handwriting has been on the wall for awhile now. Stay safe and cope with the changes that are coming the best you can remember it’s only a paycheck.
God Bless
Been going on for a long time. Only reason it’s not worse is that the CFD doesn’t hire that often. Kids on the job and he knows at least 7 that made the move and said he hasn’t heard of anyone having the opportunity to transfer to the CFD, didn’t It’s like winning the lottery
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Somewhat O.T.
My kid just got hired by CFD and will be in the class starting March 1st. He told me that out of the 85 recruits present for final processing 11 of them are currently CPD and another 4 coppers from outside agencies. I’m retired CPD after 32 years and this number seems high to me. Don’t ever remember thinking about leaving to becoming a firefighter or even hearing about too many guys that switched back then but I guess it’s a sign of the times. It’s a shame what’s happening to our proud profession, but I guess the handwriting has been on the wall for awhile now. Stay safe and cope with the changes that are coming the best you can remember it’s only a paycheck.
God Bless
Been going on for a long time. Only reason it’s not worse is that the CFD doesn’t hire that often. Kids on the job and he knows at least 7 that made the move and said he hasn’t heard of anyone having the opportunity to transfer to the CFD, didn’t It’s like winning the lottery
Pass it. Let the self cleaning oven run full blast...lol
OT. Anyone else getting a lot of last minute court notifications lately? I'm talking the day before court. I have no prob going to court but a couple of days notice would he nice since the last date was weeks ago. Who is dropping the ball? The ASA or our court people?
So fucking glad I'm retiring and moving out of state.
Reporter on Chicago Tonight says there are two separate federal investigations in two different districts of New York State. He has information that the Cook County States Atorneys office is refusing to cooperate with the Feds. Foxx is complete joke. Her incompetence is overwhelming.
Levee Breaks” was by pure accident. They cleared everything out of the mansion they used to record and the living room created a natural reverb. Zeppelin didn’t know until late in the Album.
Hell Naw will something happen to Mr. Plant while we were up there.
He spoke of his OWN Country taxing him at an absurd amount if he graces the shores while his Wife was sick and his five year old boy was fighting for his Life which eventually lost.
C/O Kenny was Bono’s guide when Chicago had U2’s Day. They are the exact same age. Kenny, as decent as he was, couldn’t name one U2 Song.
We invited Them, not the other way around. You’d think just one U2 Song, but nada
This is an awful long post just to drop a few names, anybody else out here really give a shit?
I wouldn't walk across the street to listen to them.
Somewhat O.T.
My kid just got hired by CFD and will be in the class starting March 1st. He told me that out of the 85 recruits present for final processing 11 of them are currently CPD and another 4 coppers from outside agencies. I’m retired CPD after 32 years and this number seems high to me. Don’t ever remember thinking about leaving to becoming a firefighter or even hearing about too many guys that switched back then but I guess it’s a sign of the times. It’s a shame what’s happening to our proud profession, but I guess the handwriting has been on the wall for awhile now. Stay safe and cope with the changes that are coming the best you can remember it’s only a paycheck.
God Bless
2/25/2019 04:55:00 PM
Even back in the early 70's, we had three guys quit the academy after we had purchased all our uniforms and firearms. They were called for the CFD and happily left O'Brien Street behind.
Hmmmmmmm,
1) Neuter the Police,
2) Disarm the the people,
3) Legalize preying upon other people,
4) One party rule,
and
5) Weaponize the Government (IRS, EPA) against it's own citizens.
Might just work, I don't think it's ever been tried before.... But I'll have to ask my wife, she was born in '63 (but looks like she was born in '64) in Poland.
Too bad her Grandfather isn't around either, he was last seen on a train to Auschwitz.
Those who cannot see the parallels between Fascism/Socialism and our current crop of "Social Justice Warriors" and Progressives have no business wasting air on breathing.
I suppose if they ever stooped to being educated there might be a sliver of hope but considering the current state of the taxpayer funded CPS/CTU Babysitting Service there's about as much of chance of that happening as there is of a Liberal admitting they are wrong.
Think about it... have you EVER heard a Liberal/Progressive say "sorry," "I didn't know that" or "I was wrong?" In fact, I would bet the ONLY one who can truthfully answer "yes, I have" to that question is the actress Marlee Matlin.
This shithead LaShawn is running for mayor and is way behind in the polls the day before the election so this piece of fantasy legislation is his jail Mary.
What a liberatard.
“In the future, we will no longer be Chicago police but Chicago security guards. Chicago security guards will be paid half of what the old CPD 1835-2019 use to make , no pension, less benefits. Use of force, not allowed if someone tries to attack you, you have to run.
To me the future doesn’t look bright. I love being a Chicago police officer. I know a lot of verterns will say I should leave and go to another state. But it’s not just this state this is happening all over the country. What is with America and all of these anti law and order politicians. Why in society do we have leaders supporting the criminal element and this type of non sense. Where will America be in 5 years 10 years and etc !!! I don’t even want to have kids because I don’t see a bright future for my kids. Like always please everyone stay safe and make it home to your family, friends no matter what!!!”
Because, they are criminals.
He must work for the gangs. They'll ensure he gets elected again.
Fine by me. Being in OCD will be even easier.
2/25/2019 01:20:00 AM
Do not comment drunk.
I will be a retired NYPD sergeant in the next few months. If any officer does more then the bare minimum and get s jammed up? Shame on you. The public hates you, the local politicians hate you, and the executives seem to hate you too. Take care of yourselves and protect your job, pension, and family. By the ways, why fight this bill? Our job is to follow orders. Very simple. If our politicians feels this reduces crime? So be it. I don’t beg to do my job.
I can't wait. Baltimore is in full de-policing mode. Read about what happened there last week. 5 dead and some 24 shot in less than 48 hours. It will be coming here soon.
Can they make a law more restrictive than that allowed by a US Supreme Court ruling?Can they make a law more restrictive than that allowed by a US Supreme Court ruling?
Absolutely, States can give their citizens more rights Tha the federal constitution, weed ticket law forbidding arrest would be one examole. See Michigan v Long.
I hope you are kidding. You are correct in a sense that state laws can be made more restrictive that federal laws when it comes to criminal statues like as if federal law states that legal speed limit is 70, a state can make its speed limit 60. I’m pretty sure a state cannot change a Supreme Court ruling.
States do it all the time. See Michigan v Long. It's covered in the academy.
3)the 14th amendment is clear that all the rights, privileges, and immunities contained in the Federal Constitution apply to the states as well.
Not true, see Barron v Baltimore and The Stockard case, the Bill of Rights was not applicable to the States, parts of the Bill of Rights are not still applicable to the States even after selective incorporation (such as grand jury indictments).
2/25/2019 01:20:00 AM
OMG! What was that? Neurons in the brain must be firing out of sync.
Anonymous said...
“In the future, we will no longer be Chicago police but Chicago security guards. Chicago security guards will be paid half of what the old CPD 1835-2019 use to make , no pension, less benefits. Use of force, not allowed if someone tries to attack you, you have to run.
To me the future doesn’t look bright. I love being a Chicago police officer. I know a lot of verterns will say I should leave and go to another state. But it’s not just this state this is happening all over the country. What is with America and all of these anti law and order politicians. Why in society do we have leaders supporting the criminal element and this type of non sense. Where will America be in 5 years 10 years and etc !!! I don’t even want to have kids because I don’t see a bright future for my kids. Like always please everyone stay safe and make it home to your family, friends no matter what!!!”
Because, they are criminals.
2/26/2019 12:36:00 AM
I disagree with you. Outside of cook county and especially outside of Illinois, life is different for law enforcement. There are numerous states where police are respected and supported. Avoid major cities and look at smaller towns or even state agencies.I retired from CPD and traveled the country. Visiting towns outside of cities seemed like a different world. Police are supported. You can remain fetal in Chicago and survive. Or take a chance and look for other opportunities.
2/25/2019 09:26:00 PM. Ha ha ha ha ha. Yer not serious, are you? Can you say gun control? It is states and locals DOING exactly what you describe they cant and couldnt do!!! Care to explain?
Hopefully shit like this will get you out to vote. Don't bitch if you don't vote
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Levee Breaks” was by pure accident. They cleared everything out of the mansion they used to record and the living room created a natural reverb. Zeppelin didn’t know until late in the Album.
Hell Naw will something happen to Mr. Plant while we were up there.
He spoke of his OWN Country taxing him at an absurd amount if he graces the shores while his Wife was sick and his five year old boy was fighting for his Life which eventually lost.
C/O Kenny was Bono’s guide when Chicago had U2’s Day. They are the exact same age. Kenny, as decent as he was, couldn’t name one U2 Song.
We invited Them, not the other way around. You’d think just one U2 Song, but nada
This is an awful long post just to drop a few names, anybody else out here really give a shit?
I wouldn't walk across the street to listen to them.
2/25/2019 10:50:00 PM
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agreed. Worst story ever. I quit reading in the middle so I could go eat a bag of broken glass.
this bull shit is why the real danger to police officers is not the criminals. it is the liberal politicians, press and incompetent bosses.
Outlaw signed affidavits and tell tac to stop enforcring stupid commander made up complaints for trespassing. Thirsty 2 year wonders. This is for you ernest.
do nada , write reports , document all criminal behavior in Chicago
FOP , PBPA
Now is the time after jussie false report to start documenting every false police report , if unsure who made report , No problem ,
Complete case report , let our detectives investigate .
Time to show how certain neighborhoods make false reports to get a fast response .
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT. Anyone else getting a lot of last minute court notifications lately? I'm talking the day before court. I have no prob going to court but a couple of days notice would he nice since the last date was weeks ago. Who is dropping the ball? The ASA or our court people?
2/25/2019 09:48:00 PM
More than likely the ASA. They hold their cases until the last minute. Wasn’t a court given at your last court appearance in the case
Had it happen to me a few times, watch commander excused me
Easy was to handle it is to call the ASA and explain the late notification and ask them to get a continuance. They are good about that especially if it’s a late notification. Also if the ASA doesn’t complain there is no court deviance
nonymous said...
Reporter on Chicago Tonight says there are two separate federal investigations in two different districts of New York State. He has information that the Cook County States Atorneys office is refusing to cooperate with the Feds. Foxx is complete joke. Her incompetence is overwhelming.
2/25/2019 10:28:00 PM
The reporter on Tonight, wrote a book on R Kelly and said he is the worst mass sexual criminal in Chicago history with a documented 48 victims on the South side of Chicago and even more in other states. He keeps getting away with it. He pays off the mothers and even now has underage girls with him along with their mothers. And, he said NY state is investigating Kelly and Foxx refuses to cooperate. I suspect he will beat this current case. The video is very old, one victim refuses to cooperate.
orders. Very simple. If our politicians feels this reduces crime? So be it. I don’t beg to do my job.
2/26/2019 03:12:00 AM
great advice. It goes against everything that I stood for in 34 years of service, but in today's climate it is a smart thing to do. It was often said during my time that the only cops who get in trouble are those that are trying to do some work.
I think this bill is wonderful. I hope it passes and is signed into law. Our job would be that much easier.
Correction. Illinois politicians are not the most stupid. They are the most cunning and corrupt.
To all you political thieves pretending to be public servants FUCK EACH AND EVERYONE OF YOU!
Anonymous said...
2/25/2019 09:26:00 PM. Ha ha ha ha ha. Yer not serious, are you? Can you say gun control? It is states and locals DOING exactly what you describe they cant and couldnt do!!! Care to explain?
2/26/2019 10:07:00 AM
Don't be so smug.
No one is saying they WON'T do what they've been doing.
Stay on topic. Gun Control was NOT being discussed but keep
on conflating...
But in regard to Gun Control and similar such?
Chicago and D.C. gun bans struck down by SCOTUS.
How and Why?
Therein lies your answer.
Do your own work to find it.
Go fetal verses proactive COMSTAT policing.
I don't live in IL. And am SO glad. How do you poor eastwards put up with all the BS?
I'm late to the party but this would be great.
I don't think Ford realizes this works both ways.
Sure the police would not be able to stop members of the "community" from committing crime.
But the police also could not stop armed citizens from dealing with the "community".
I think it would be a fair trade.
As it is "community" members either walk or get probation.
There wouldn't be much of a change if you stopped catching them before they were later released.
However once word got out that the currently law abiding victims of these jack offs could take care of business, I think the problem would take care of its self.
Bill Status of HB0186 is done with, thank goodness!!
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/billstatus.asp?DocNum=0186&GAID=15&GA=101&DocTypeID=HB&LegID=114047&SessionID=108#actions
At least it's "TABLED"
Tabling removes a bill, resolution, or amendment from consideration.
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/glossary.asp#T
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