Great Debate in Springfield
- After just seven minutes of debate, Senate Democrats took the first major step Wednesday in advancing Gov. J.B. Pritzker’s goal of revamping how the state taxes income — seeking the biggest change in the state income tax since it was enacted a half century ago.
The Illinois Senate passed its version of a graduated income tax package on strictly partisan lines — and its fate now lies within the Illinois House, where changes are anticipated.
The Senate first approved a proposed constitutional amendment that removes the flat income tax structure from the state’s constitution. The amendment to a previous Senate resolution is the first part in getting the Illinois Constitution to require a “fair” or graduated income tax — Pritzker’s No. 1 priority.
Up next is a battle in the Illinois House, where not all facets of the plan may make it through. Legislators have just weeks to figure out a capital plan, approve a budget and try to pass another one of Pritzker’s priorities: legalizing recreational marijuana. It sets the stage for an action packed home stretch of the spring session.
Remember, when all the "rich" people move out or change addresses to their out-of-Illinois residence, guess who the new "rich" people are? Nothing in this proposal defines "middle class."
Get out if you can.
Get out if you can.
Labels: state politics
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
35 Comments:
Lying Gov jabba toilet seat says budget deficit is $3.2 B..lol actual deficit for
this year is $10B.. which is why the fast rush to tax everyone even more
Time again to shop in Indiana
Working class in the lowest bracket( $10k to $35k wages) get no break What so ever. 4.75% on first $10k then 4.95% up to $100,000 ? Are they kidding us ? Who cares if mega millionaires pay 7 point some or other. That jump from 10k to 100k charges the same so working poor get no break. Why not tax 10k to 35k only 3 to 3.5%% ??? Tax and spend Democrats won't give working poor any break. Guess what ? Your taxes stay the same and less gun rights. (Rant off).
To only ones paying more will be the middle class! I can’t wait to leave!
The Ad campaign is run by "Think Big Illinois." In charge of "Think Big Illinois is a Pritzger election campaign manager. The major contributor to Think Big is....Pritzger! So look at this guy as a schemer, as in "I'll pull my toilets out of my Astor street mansion to change it's taxability. In the mean time, my taxable money is in a Trust off shore!" This stinks to high heaven! I think the real goal is to get at the Illinois State Constitution. They can't do progressive income tax because the Constitution doesn't allow it. But, if you open up the Constitution you can then get at all the public employee pensions that are currently held as permanent contracts. A warning to those wanting to gut public pensions, you better look out for the 80 year old retired teacher with nothing to lose, now bankrupted by these shenanigans, and coming for any politician or their family.
What the dumbocrats do not wish anyone to know is the Bill also eliminates the Estate tax. So people like J Billa the Hun pay a few more million up front in taxes in a lifetime but keep tens of millions in the long run for their family when they die.
The middle class is self defining.
We are in the middle, so we get fucked from both ends.
Because we feed both the moochers and the elite pricks, we are the go to for their survival.
The moochers mooch and the elite mock, yet they would both fall into the abyss without the middle class doing all of the actual work.
The phrase, Fuck You, Pay Me, is applied, by us, to the elite.
The phrase, Fuck Off, should be applied to the moochers, tho the moochers will reliably play deaf ear. Or bemoan our heartlessness.
Alas, the middle class is the center upon which the elite and moocher class revolves.
SCC, once again you nailed it in your last paragraph. To everyone reading this, please copy or memorize it and forward it to all the well intentioned, uninformed sheep who cry "fairness" like six-year-olds. A tax increase is a tax increase, coming to a tax bracket like yours soon enough. Of course, governor jellybelly doesn't mind. He has Billions. Made the old fashioned way, inherited.
The Master Plan is to eliminate the bedrock of America: The Middle Class. Big push for Super Rich and Very Poor.. Must create chaos so unwashed masses beg for Socialism.
Guess who own a recreational marijuana company in Colorado? None other than the Pritzker family, of which JB is a partner in. Not a conflict of interest, is there?
Just a few more years till I pull the pin and never come back to this state.
The Madigan-Cullerton-Fatfuk death spiral accelerates.
Spend less. Spend less. Spend less. Spend less.
Wasted words on our state government.
You are the rich quit saying your middle class. Starting pay of over 70k, add in overtime maybe a promotion and your well over 100k. Have a spouse that works? Is it possible they are in a position for raises, overtime or a promotion? That 250k limit is getting near your income now.
I guess I never understood why a flat tax isn’t a fair tax? Why shouldn’t everyone pay the same amount of ALL their income....whether they make 10k, or 10M! No deductions for kids or other stuff....
Corrupt POS!
Shop in Indiana hell time to move to Indiana. Get out while you can.
The estimated $3 BILLION a year from the "rich" won't be nearly enough and they know it.
Then they'll turn to the middle class.
EVERYONE sees this. They're lying through their teeth but with moronic Chicago voters it doesn't matter.
Thats why we're despised by the rest of the state.
Like California there's now a permanent welfare class north of I 80 large enough to maintain democrat political dominance forever
THIS IS MAKE OR BREAK FOR ILLINOIS ....
They can't fuck over the middle class anymore , they have taxed everything but the air you breathe so the only way they can get more is income tax. This nonsense about amending the State Constitution should tell any idiot how important this is . The reason for this is so exactly what they are trying to do doesn't happen. Once the Constitution is amended they can do whatever they want and I absolutely guarantee it's not gonna be good the average Joe
Remember when Pat Quinn's income tax increase was temporary?
Litmus test for Pension Amending - but the tax bill has to pass the voters and like the pension amendment, it probably will not Pass on the 2020 ballot.
JB PigNuts hasn’t don’t anything but complain about the States dire financial situation and propose more taxes.
Won’t cut government one bit, not that 3/5’s Elected Madigroiners would allow cuts anyway.
At any rate, CPS - Cook County will still get property tax levies added regardless of what state amendment is ever pushed through.
There are two things happening here:
Along with this new income tax plan is the elimination of the estate tax.
Rich guy doesn't mind the increase in yearly taxes,
as long as the big bite on his wealth is gone when he dies.
Rich guy wants to pass his money to his family when he dies, not to ILL.
I don't blame him.
Changing tax law requires changing the ILL constitution .
That requires a Constitutional Convention, Con Con.
Anything & everything can be changed with Con Con,
including pension law.
I believe this tax change is a smokescreen to open Con Con and get rid of that phrase
"Pension . . . cannot be diminished."
Just like CWB is doing....go to the right side of SCC home page and click on WIREPOINTS to see the financial scams of the state.
Got out 10 years ago.
Mr. JB Waternoose sighting at Public Safety HQ today. As one of his Monsters Inc employees would say:I’m watching you Officer Wazowski, alwayyyys watching!
an you say and understand rubber stamp. Surprised it lasted seven minutes.
Abba the Hurt will get what when he wants. Your all screwed. Except those smart ones that have a U Haul reserved before the next round of real estate tax increases. Yes Virginia there will be a next tax increase, much easier to do that then cut spending. They after all Democrats and you put them in total power. LOL from a Red State.
By the way, where is J.B.'s full tax returns?
SCC you nailed it once again when you touched on the "rich" leaving this state. Several posters think that "we" in the middle class are paying taxes. We do pay taxes but NOTHING like the "elite" as one poster called them. Do some research before you start ripping the "rich" or "elite" because the top 3% of tax payers paid 90% of ALL taxes in 2016! ALL these democRATS want is "class envy" so they can keep fooling the ignorant who don't do a little research. As they keep fooling you, you keep ripping on the "rich" instead of the idiots running, or ruining this state. These posters are doing EXACTLY what all the dems are hoping for; HATE THE RICH! Because when you HATE the true bill payers, you're letting these RATS escape blame. DemocRATS never want a "flat" tax because they would be held to the actual FAIR SHARE that each and everyone of us would be paying. 10% on my 100 grand is the same 10% on a guy making a million. What's wrong with that?
How these un-honorable puppets follow the wishes of communist fatso J-Bloated who never had a real job or was never elected for even dog catcher, what a joke. Trust fund asshole to boot. Jag Bag.
All of you political POS who created this problem are true scrum!
Soon I will exit this cesspool of deceit, lies, fraud and corruption to a low property tax state that doesn't tax a meager social security and my parting words will be Fuck You!
Still think they won't change pensions?
J-Bloated has offshore bank accounts, takes toilets out of his mansion to screw the poor and middle class, is a known tax cheat and wants to raise taxes on families and business owners (his definition of rich) making $250,000. What CHUTZPAH!!
Hey media and politicians this guy is a two fold son of hell leading you to the abyss. REPORT THE TRUTH AND DO NOT FOLLOW.
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Pritzker tried to screw his own cousins out of their inheritance, big court case which he eventually lost. Look it up. Guy has no scruples. Toilet-scam is just the tip of the iceberg regarding Pritzkers' amoral tendencies.
I am newly retired , and I'm moving, going to a Republican state. When I get there I'm going to declare "ECONOMIC REFUGEE" status. I am being forced to move due to a stupid electorate that keeps voting for these idiots. Along with high crime, unjust taxes, and political persecution from the ruling class, I will claim "ECONOMIC REFUGEE" status when I arrive. As a "ECONOMIC REFUGEE", I would be eligible for free stuff/programs promised to other REFUGEES. Hopefully, at least a double-wide at the local trailer park...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I guess I never understood why a flat tax isn’t a fair tax? Why shouldn’t everyone pay the same amount of ALL their income....whether they make 10k, or 10M! No deductions for kids or other stuff....
5/03/2019 07:38:00 AM
Because it's the fair Socialist way....Eliminate the really rich, then the Pols control everyone....AKA Communism.
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