You Think It's Bad Now?
- Last fall, a City Council Committee shot down the most extreme of four pending proposals for civilian police review after one aldermen claimed the proposal was drafted to appease people who are “hateful of the police.” On May 29, proponents of the so-called Civilian Police Accountability Council will try again, emboldened by support from 15 aldermen in a City Council that has taken a sharp turn to the left.
Ald. Carlos Ramirez-Rosa (35th), chairman of the new Socialist Caucus, held a City Hall news conference Tuesday to announce plans to re-introduce a CPAC ordinance that still may be going nowhere, even after the changing of the guard at City Hall.
Get a load of these proposals:
- Their plan, championed by the Chicago Alliance Against Racist & Political Repression, calls for electing one representative from each of the city’s 22 police districts. They would serve four-year terms with a dedicated staff and an annual salary matching what aldermen are paid.
The elected panel would have an annual budget of $30 million and be empowered to: hire and fire Chicago’s police superintendent; establish police policy; investigate police shootings and other allegations of excessive force and police abuse; negotiate a police contract and pass judgment on police discipline.
It's like Portland 2.0 combined with Baltimore's ongoing death spiral.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
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Hit the medical. Problem solved for a year.
His plan also calls for abolishing COPA. I guess he expects the elected reps and their pals, I mean staff, will investigate police shootings.
He also wants to get rid of the Police Board, so I guess there will be no review or appeal of any discipline rulings they come up with.
I heard Lightfoot wants to punish the Department by also ending the 55 and out with insurance agreement. Anyone who applies for this job now and anyone with less than five years on that isn’t looking elsewhere to work should both require a psychiatric evaluation. It doesn’t make sense to me that people would want a job where benefits are diminished and non-existent coupled with the disrespect we receive from both the public and our political employers. Also, can people please stop all chases? Nothing good is coming from them and only worse things will be coming from them with our current elected officials.
Negotiate police contracts? I realize coppers don’t normally vote, but I bet we can find a way to get 12 pro police representatives elected. How about another week of furlough and 14% over four years?
It will never happen. LOL and crying at the same time.
That would be quite an impressive panel. They’d not only be policy makers, but also professional investigators, detectives, experts in use of force, contract negotiators, and disciplinarians. Wow. That is quite an array of duties. I’m sure they’ll be proficient in all of them.
“...Ald. Carlos Ramirez-Rosa (35th), chairman of the new Socialist Caucus, ...”
Socialist caucus. What the fuck is happening to this country? The finish line for me is 2.5-4yrs away. I cannot imagine what it’s like for the people who can’t leave this job (this city/county/state) for a decade or more.
This is a absolutely absurd idea and deadly for the future of the CPD. Already very low numbers are applying for the job and large numbers are fleeing the CPD for other departments. Of course residency is the main reason for this, but coupled with everything else, the job is very unattractive. First, how much more reform, monitoring and restricting can they due? Aren’t we maxed out yet? Second, how much more money does the city want to waste? Chicago was just ranked the number one city drowning in debt. Chicago needs to cut the waste on unnecessary things. Like this dumb idea. Hopefully Lightfoot will see how bad this will be.
I literally don’t know how much more fetal I personally can go?! Thank God there’s a whole fresh new crop of PPO’s and Kool Aid swilling coppers that will fall on their swords for this City with all the Bullshit they’ve been fed. Main lesson I remembered from the Military is someone will fuck up well before I ever do. It’s a damn shame, but some people just have to learn the hard way. Unfortunately we’ve hit that mark folks..... Let it Happen.
More pogues to do what we already have overpaid pogues supposed to be doing. The solution of a non-problem is somehow always getting more of their people on the taxpayer funded payroll.
Why is that Captain Ron?
Ramirez-Rosa is, tragically, my alderman. He's nuts. He's also a deadbeat who abandoned his office and hasn't paid the long overdue - nearly one hundred thousand dollars - rent on it.
No surprise that he thinks 300 million can materialize out of thin air to fund his idiotic whims. So what if the city is broke? Print more money, you peasants!
He also plans to reroute Milwaukee Avenue traffic at Logan Boulevard down SIDE STREETS to make the square a walking-only zone and, hey, that'll only cost 100 million.
Your tax dollars at work, guys.
And the Plan continues. Thanks Barry Soertero.
chicago alliance against racial and political repression. Kind of catchy, but lacking in depth. How about the chicago police officers alliance against depleted police resources. Does that make more sense.
I don't want Social Justice Warriors to dictate Policy. Emotions have no place in determination of Public Safety. Keep those people on Facebook, where they belong.
Let HeyJackass and statisticians determine which group is doing all the killin' and how to quash. Chicago doesn't run well on feel-good Leaders, times call for skull-crackers. NYC got cleaned-up, we can learn from their methods.
Portland, Seattle, Baltimore: that's the triangle for now.
Is Chicago next or will the abundance of professional
sports save us? Could that be the key?
Carlos Rosa is a piece of Communist shit and police hater that needs to be taken out pronto!
"Ramirez-Rosa acknowledged that he is still 11 votes short of the 26 needed for passage."
Why just 11 shy? It should be 26 short.
We need to stop this proposal. We can not afford to be complacent. Why does the public want to hold us accountable? We are already held accountable. The liberals are against law and order.
This guy is a marxist and yes, he has someone in his family that is a police officer, at least I think this person still is even after that recent meltdown.
Enjoy your CLOUT Now!!!
And this is why you start now by forming a good habit of not doing a fucking thing. Drive in circles and wave to all the citizens of the community. DO NOT give this administration any ammunition to take away your job or freedom , because that is exactly what they want to do.
So let me get this right...22 representatives with at least an annual salary of $100,000 and a 30 million dollar budget plus they get a staff of how many and paid at how much??? Where would this money be coming from and why cant we put this into our pension? The city is supposedly broke, FOP get your motors running.
And where is this 30 million plus coming from? If it is just laying around why not earmark it for the pension?
And each member would be required to ride one Friday night on 3-11 per month with a tac unit in their district to see how human beings i. e. citizens, really behave. If they do not ride one a month they are immediately fired.
Let me in on that “gravy” train, I am officially declaring my candidacy for that position and like all good ( err scratch that last word) pols will say anything to be elected.
Weird stuff.
This guy is a NITWIT. An unemployable barista who got to the public feeding trough now wants to create jobs for all of his buddies who also got useless college degrees and now work in retail. 30 million dollars is only the start, these morons will need benefits,like health insurance along with PENSIONS. It's no wonder this city is going broke. We need to organize and work to UN-ELECT ANYONE who signs off on this. REMEMBER THESE PEOPLE AT THE BALLOT BOX!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I heard Lightfoot wants to punish the Department by also ending the 55 and out with insurance agreement. Anyone who applies for this job now and anyone with less than five years on that isn’t looking elsewhere to work should both require a psychiatric evaluation. It doesn’t make sense to me that people would want a job where benefits are diminished and non-existent coupled with the disrespect we receive from both the public and our political employers. Also, can people please stop all chases? Nothing good is coming from them and only worse things will be coming from them with our current elected officials.
5/15/2019 12:26:00 AM
You heard right 55 and out will be gone, because they are losing 'experienced," coppers who will do nothing at all, in this anti-police anti-taxpayer climate of corruption that is so prevalent here. This moron is proposing estimated of 30 million plus to prop up their friends and family to get these lucrative "we hate the police," positions. So not only now do we have the inexperienced of the copa cabana crew we will have the "ghetto folks/peoples," deciding the fate of the police!
If your the police and do anything more than protect the homeland,your partners,the thin blue line.police families your on your own. The ghetto demands bullshit,take your time when it is over here is your Rd number, smile wave drive away advise warrants. Be like the firemen park somewhere and wait for calls being proactive will land you actively in the soup line, losing your family,freedom and bank account is it worth it to tell the little girls at the var "I be the real police?"
I see Seattle is spiraling down the drain. Watched a documentary last week where the city has 62% single occupancy in its housing, and an estimated 35% of its work force is high at sometime during the work day. How's that software problem coming along on the 737-800 MAX Boeing?
Well I was going to do 29 and a day. Now I might just pull the plug at 20
Racist? I'm not a racist. Why do they continue to call a whole group of people racists?
Now now where did we leave that federal broom? The wire? This stops the bullshit and lies from empty headed clowns like this group of morons! So they want millions to do this,to give the old fiends and fambly jobs and cash again and again it shows the swamp still needs that plug pulled. Oh and to you alderman proposing this sorry SCC for the vulgarity Fuck You,and when the animals attack you call your fellow progressives to protect your snowflake asses!
Bring the DOOM already, I’ve been waiting.
Carlos looks and acts like a little Hugo Chávez. This is a despot in its larval state. “Sí Se Puede” unbelievable that the ignorant masses still fall for that.
I can imagine massive walk-outs. Absurd policies...can't happen, can it?
I can imagine massive walk-outs. Absurd policies...can't happen, can it?
The totalitarian erosion of standards is the defining, paradoxical feature of the modern left.
I have two questions. Will the members of this panel get a uniform allowance and most importantly will they have the power to increase my garbage pickup to twice a week.
If someone though IAD was a money maker wait until you have to deal with a “panel”.
This is stupid beyond shit. And who wants to bet that if this became a reality, God forbid, that $30 million budget would double in no time. Yeah, let's find more useless things to spend millions on in a city drowning in debt.
Anonymous said...
"Ramirez-Rosa acknowledged that he is still 11 votes short of the 26 needed for passage."
Why just 11 shy? It should be 26 short.
5/15/2019 04:52:00 AM
Exactly! If they want to destroy Chicago and have crime go unchecked then put this plan in place. No one wants this job already. There’s already plenty of reform in place along with checks and balances. If Lightfoot wants to stop people from moving out of Chicago, then she’ll say “no way! The CPD is already doing much better” Remove residency, fix the pension, and settle the contract. Morale will skyrocket and you will get a ton of police applicants from all over America.
I truely believe Lightfoot doesn’t have her mind set on destroying the CPD. She’s very intelligent and was a US Attorney. I believe she’s had it with the 30-50 years of corruption in Chicago and cook county and will not be part of it. This should be her focus. It’s the aldermen and Kim Fixx that will be her biggest problem. She stated several times that she’s wants to keep people from moving out of Chicago. Destroying the CPD will not help. I’m guessing she will be pleased with the changes already in place and see the complaint and law suit numbers have drastically dropped. She needs to attract a bigger and better applicant pool to the CPD. A better educated applicant. Get rid of residency, raise the pay and require a bachelors degree. This will make a big difference.
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FOP where are you?
Public should have a say and they do by elections.
But when it comes to fundamental law and order, the people failed.
At some point (if ever) will these dimwits look up from their cellphones and take a good look around.
Eight years of absolute no-good civil disorder and disobedience and mostly due to actions of the Council too.
Think anything good will come during the next four?
I don’t.
If Hillary would have won in 2016, most of us would be in internment camps by now. A.O.C and her merry band of lunatics in Congress would be passing legislation making it a crime to be WHITE. Hopefully once the criminal Cabal in D.C. starts facing g justice these radical city councils will pump the brakes. And no I am not holding my breath for these radical assholes to be our friends in any way, but perhaps watching Comey and Brennan get indicted will distract them from local problems
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Portland, Seattle, Baltimore: that's the triangle for now.
Is Chicago next or will the abundance of professional
sports save us? Could that be the key?
5/15/2019 03:55:00 AM
Look at the San Francisco Bay Area and how many teams they have, it didn't save them. Look at the socialist mecca of Minneapolis-St.Paul, doesn't seem to have helped there either. Twin Cities Democratic Socialists of America https://twincitiesdsa.org/
The only hope police and law abiding citizens have is for a federal raid on city hall which won't happen, the insane are out of the asylum and are after law enforcement and taxpayers. The lemmings will be murdered, shot, maimed, raped robbed etc. protect your family and yourself get concealed carry, or if not carry a pistol in corruption filled Chiraq. The life you save will be your own or your loved 1!
Rosa's is a clown. Leave him to his own demise.
Rosa's 35th ward took one of the biggest property tax hits. He will pay with his job next election.
@12:26 Be like firemen
Not a bad idea. 24 on-48 off with Daley days., we respond from a satellite location where we take calls in a similar area that firehouses do. Time to nap so we are vigilant, cook on duty. Show up after the fact and draw paper. Maybe do an hour of “patrol” a day to give the allusion that there is a sliver of proactivity that the commies might want a minimal amount of. Sign me up!
Every big city is a mess. Leftists, progressives, Democrats ruin everything and turn all they touch into shit. New York's mayor wants to redo all bldgs there because they're not energy friendly. Civilization has come so far and these fucking idiots want to take us back to the days of cavemen. They're all full of shit and only stupid people believe their nonsense. We need a purge night.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I truly believe Lightfoot doesn’t have her mind set on destroying the CPD. She’s very intelligent and was a US Attorney. I believe she’s had it with the 30-50 years of corruption in Chicago and cook county and will not be part of it. This should be her focus. It’s the aldermen and Kim Fixx that will be her biggest problem. She stated several times that she’s wants to keep people from moving out of Chicago. Destroying the CPD will not help. I’m guessing she will be pleased with the changes already in place and see the complaint and law suit numbers have drastically dropped. She needs to attract a bigger and better applicant pool to the CPD. A better educated applicant. Get rid of residency, raise the pay and require a bachelors degree. This will make a big difference.
5/15/2019 11:28:00 AM
If she got rid of residency some will certainly leave, she wouldn't want to take a chance on how many. Why let overtaxed people out of the cage when the city is crying about needing more money. Raise the pay? Look at the money problems the city has, can't see any substantial pay raises happening. Bachelors Degree required? Her community wouldn't like that, that's not restorative justice, and it would be racist because there was once slavery. Why would smart people want to work for CPD today? Federal oversight that's a nice advertisement. And unprofessional clouted goofs, flakes and whores running the show. The same types will be promoted, the protected classes. And don't forget Lighterfeet is a progressive, a "triple threat" as she calls herself. She loves illegals and all the progressive way.
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