Don't Make Plans.....Ever
We really really need to get double-time or double-time-and-one half in the Contract:
- Off topic, The Department put out AMC message 248216 today regarding restricted time off July 3-7. Since this is more than 21 days in advance notice will they honor section 23.6, overtime for pre-planned events, in the contract? Or will they try and get around seniority again like they did on Memorial Day?
Every other union has specific instances where time-and-one=half just doesn't cut it. The City screws over the police because even if you win a Grievance, the penalty can only be.....time-and-one-half, so they get away with what would be extra penalties for any other union.
Labels: contract stuff
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
132 Comments:
Union will be quite don’t want to upset the mayor
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Chicago Police Officers do NOT have a union.
We have a social club, brotherhood, fraternity.
CPU?
That's a union!
What does it matter how many police are forced to work days off around holiday? In my district the bodies fill the caps and front offices and the empty squad cars fill the lot. You wouldnt have to cancel rdo holidays if resources were used appropriately. The tact teams could man a rapid too. They signed up, I might as well wear bluejeans on cancelled rdo holiday as protest. send me home unpaid....maybe i'll get my day off after all.
I blame the fop.
WTF are we paying you people for?
fop never provided me with a hard copy of the contract. Are they still worried about stuff from 40 years ago????? get with the times. come to a roll call or two...
If you want time off on those dates then just put it in the system. It's a scare tactic that works on most coppers. Just do it if really want the time off
Time cancelled/days off cancelled, why? Oh yeah, Puerto Rican Festival where gang fights and gang shootings are an added attraction.
To the youngsters in 009 on midnights.. when going down on a traffic stop, will you please stop saying every single time “we’re ok”. Example. 9xx traffic stop 4900 S Ashland were ok”. Listen.. we know you’re ok. Once you say send more cars we will then think you’re not OK. It sounds dumb.. real dumb. Is this only a midnight thing because I’ve heard this in other districts just on midnights. Also, feel free to put yourself down on a stop utilizing the “t-stop” button on the PDT. The only reason you have for going down on the radio so much is to make yourself heard.. just do your job. Stay off the radio and pull an RD via PDT, Aira or by calling the AD desk when you have an arrest.
I think we can all agree that babysitting the ghetto is more important than time with our families. They do suffer from poverty you know.
Get some time on the job, kid, and the “restricted” part of this teletype won’t apply to you. You’ll be one of the handful of people that has enough seniority to get those days off.
Or take that 7A furlough... when you have some time on the job, kid, and it won’t be an issue.
You cry when they pull this shit last minute and now you’re crying when they’re giving you ample heads up to plan accordingly.
My point? We’ve all been through this when we had no time on the job. And if you’re one of the Tactical Superstars or Unit Prima Donnas complaining? Well, you shoulda read the fine print when you signed up to be part of the “elite”.
I’ll be thinking of you chumps while I’m BBQing and knocking back beers with family and friends at the summer place on the lake.
No,this is an emergency because the problem we can't discuss might manifest itself in a way that would embarrass the mayor.
Doing more with less has a cost and the honest citizens and police must bare it.
Stay strong Heroes in Blue, you all deserve the credit that you never seem to get. There are so many civilians like myself who do appreciate you. You are all Heroes to me! Be Safe!
It sounds like your union sucks at negotiating contracts, and that your membership folds like lawn chairs when they ratify this garbage.
Just an FYI and to also be fair to both sides this was put out about 4 or 5 days ago.. well before 21 days hit. I know it’s exactly 21 days from when the blog is posting it but we should really go by when the order was really put out. The only thing this will do is ensure 1000 calls to the FOP tomorrow saying that 21 days is violated Yafo tads yada because they read it on the blog. When in doubt check the AMFN and you will see tht this is 4 days old already.
I’ll make plans if I want! WTF is anyone going to do about it! Now come handle my jobs for me before I make you say it to my face!
MAIU style!
OT - the skulls full of mush in 011 were “following” a black Trailblazer with temp plates all last night. FOR TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS. They called in this vehicle at least 3 times in Half an hour or so. At one point the car crossed south of Roosevelt into 010 where some sgt with half a brain told everybody to “not pursue” it. I counted ...only 3 seconds had elapsed to have that Trailblazer travel from Madison to Roosevelt. Seriously...SERIOUSLY.... somebody needs to spank these dummies before the inevitable happens AGAIN. What the fuck don’t you guys yet understand about chasing/following/pursuing/whatever????? The lieutenant or XO or commander needs to order these idiots to totally refrain in these instances, and furthermore not even put the shit over the air tying up the radio for nothing.
Use DuckDuckGo...
Memorial Day, 4th of July, Labor Day. What is this? Like the 4th or so where they've cancelled time due/rdo's?
"Fuck you and your family and your plans, peons!"
I’ll be hitting the medical if denied. Enough of this shit already, cancelling days off like they’re passing out candy. Hire more fucking people already.
This job has reached an all time low. For all the preaching about officer wellness, I don’t see ANYONE worried about how all this day off cancelled nonsense is affecting OUR lives, OUR minds and OUR wellness. Unless of course you’re one of the VERY SPECIAL people who work for a VERY SPECIAL PERSON. Then you get what you want. Fuck you, Terrible Tony. Fuck you, Little Lori. And a GREAT BIG FUCK YOU to Elephant Eddie who is masquerading as a police superintendent.
"Fraternal Order Of Police" its not a "police Union" This is nothing more than a social club that CPD Officers pay into and get very little in return. We can get way more bang for our buck.
This is an ONGOING issue and violation that has been going on way too many years!!!! These kids on job with 2, 3, 4 years are not forced to work but a guy on the watch with 23 years has to work their RDO? This needs to stop now, why are we paying FOP DUES, when they don't do nothing? This has to stop, SENIORITY should trump everything , if you have 15 to 20 + years on job, etc. you should not be forced to work RDO while some PPO is laughing at his family picnic. Lets go FOP! You have known about this for years since even DEAN-O
Ok 3am... If they are calling out stops, they ARE doing their job and they are simply letting others know they are good. What’s the big deal...? And what are others supposed to do if they don’t have a PDT to put themselves down with...? Christ. This is why the younger cops don’t listen to the vets. They just complain about the dumbest shit.
i say double time is worth 2 minutes of secret recording on a body camera!
Let see what we negotiate the FOP and MARTY THE scholar preib come up with. Real annoying going to meeting at the HALL for a year and not 1 thing has even been approved yet on the contract. That is really good faith...
CMON lite-GROOT save the city save the police department and let get that weed in Candy form at the medical section.
Second RDO should be double time period.If you work on a holiday outside of your regular shift,that also should be double time.Def getting screwed.
AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To the youngsters in 009 on midnights.. when going down on a traffic stop, will you please stop saying every single time “we’re ok”. Example. 9xx traffic stop 4900 S Ashland were ok”. Listen.. we know you’re ok. Once you say send more cars we will then think you’re not OK. It sounds dumb.. real dumb. Is this only a midnight thing because I’ve heard this in other districts just on midnights. Also, feel free to put yourself down on a stop utilizing the “t-stop” button on the PDT. The only reason you have for going down on the radio so much is to make yourself heard.. just do your job. Stay off the radio and pull an RD via PDT, Aira or by calling the AD desk when you have an arrest.
6/12/2019 01:03:00 AM
Seems to me they are being courteous by advising the zone they are ok because usually zone asks if you need another car.
Isn’t there more important things to obsess over?
I think you have too much time on your hands, busybody.
Better call in the military
1:03am....Are you really a cop or maybe a dispatcher?? Either way, your comment is one of stupidity. Yes there are plenty of kids on midnight's and despite some of them using the radio for every little thing unnecessarily, the idea of putting your stop over the air is so other units can start floating your way in case you would need an assist (009 may not be 011 but it's def not 020 either) They may not need it but I ALWAYS slide by the stops of the younger officers when I hear them go down, it's called SAFETY IN NUMBERS! They being young, may not always realize that another car on scene with them can never hurt so why not help them out.
Former 009th 1st Watch
The post calling the FOP a social club was right on. The comparison between the CTA abdominal FOP was perfect. If you want a better situation you need to become militants. The squeaky wheel gets the grease.
The consent decree should have addressed this, our comp time has been earned and should be used when we want it. Cancelled day off should be an option. People will work, offer it to them.
Here's a little trick I learned a long time ago.
Plan your holiday get togethers a week before
or after the event if you are forced to work major
holidays. LOTS of benefits: The 4th, Thanksgiving,
Christmas. Reduced traffic, reduced idiots on the
road, no pressure to fake interactions with friends
with one eye on your watch. RELAX. They roll
around again. Take the OT and bank it.
Hope the 4th weekend turns into a blistering heatwave. Everyone will behave, right, cuz it’s too hot to be outdoors. Will the city re-instate our once annual lakefront fireworks display so ‘children of poverty’ can pay their CTA fare and have one bright day of happiness in their poverty-stricken lives?
Make a plan to pay yourself first.
There will come a day when you will be
physically unable to do the job, nor will you want
to do it. So slow down, take the long view.
You will live longer and your B.P. will be lower.
Steady and slow wins the race.
Let them have the illusion that they are controlling
you, when in fact YOU are controlling them.
A calendar day is just that: a 24 hour period.
Rumor has it that "extreme poverty" will be breaking out near July 4
All hands on deck!
It sounds like your union sucks at negotiating contracts, and that your membership folds like lawn chairs when they ratify this garbage.
Hmmmm
Further more if the City is going to violate the terms of said contract then perhaps push back of some sort is appropriate, and since manpower around the Holidays seems to be an issue then that would be a point to exploit
The union only works when it wants to. Otherwise, it's good outing time.
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To the youngsters in 009 on midnights.. when going down on a traffic stop, will you please stop saying every single time “we’re ok”. Example. 9xx traffic stop 4900 S Ashland were ok”. Listen.. we know you’re ok. Once you say send more cars we will then think you’re not OK. It sounds dumb.. real dumb. Is this only a midnight thing because I’ve heard this in other districts just on midnights. Also, feel free to put yourself down on a stop utilizing the “t-stop” button on the PDT. The only reason you have for going down on the radio so much is to make yourself heard.. just do your job. Stay off the radio and pull an RD via PDT, Aira or by calling the AD desk when you have an arrest.
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Why do you care? You’re the guy not showing up to assist if they’re ok or not. Shut your mouth and continue on with your nap. If you don’t like listening to the radio, then turn yours down and when the wagon is called over and over and the desk has to call your cell phone to wake you up, then show up. PO Decker, no one cares for you much anyway. You’re the cry baby on midnights and you might’ve been able to stay on days on your school car if you weren’t such a tool. Most other vets in 009 help out the new guys and you’re the complete opposite. Grow up and show these kids the ropes instead of always complaining.
Been saying it for years, punish the city and they will stop cancelling days off. Double time or more will stop it or will create a bank of volunteer officers to take the work. Instead they get a pissed off work force that won’t do a thing on their cancelled holiday. MAnagement 101 !!!
“.....Also, feel free to put yourself down on a stop utilizing the “t-stop” button on the PDT. The only reason you have for going down on the radio so much is to make yourself heard.. just do your job. Stay off the radio and pull an RD via PDT, Aira or by calling the AD desk when you have an arrest.....”
You sound really dumb. We go over the air and say “we’re ok” because believe it or not, some of us still cares when our colleagues go down on a stop specially on a designated high crime area and we back them up! And most of the times, the Dispatcher would even ask us if “we’re ok “ on our stop. You should know that anything could go wrong on street or traffic stop even after we said “we’re ok”. And news flash, you idiot, not all the Beat and Tact cars are equip with PDT and that’s why we UTILIZE our damn radio!
In 17 fucking years, I don’t ever remember calling the AD desk to let them know that I have an arrest and get an RD number from them. You’re an embarrassment to this department. Let me guess, you got less than 5 years OTJ and no one taught you how to properly DO YOUR JOB.
To the 011th district chase guy.. just so we’re clear the car did not go from Madison to rooosevelt in only 3 seconds. As I have just done my math in order to go a mile and a half in 3 seconds the vehicle had to be traveling 409mph. Let’s not embellish sir. Don’t chase but also don’t make up things just to support your point.
should be all on deck then
every single sworn regardless of rank
Wait isn't that why they call it Exempt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
violence northwest side too late to sell QAS folks and peoples
Don't do SHIT.
BTW....Don't make any plans for Thanksgiving, Christmas, or New Years either. Furlo extensions will be restricted across the board. And the weekend time due will be severely limited throughout the year.
They didn't tell me that when I signed on...They said "Welcome to the Greatest Job in the city, if not the world."
I say..."It's a glass bottom boat ride through the sewer system of Chicago."
Can I get a Do-Over...?
Anonymous said...
To the youngsters in 009 on midnights.. when going down on a traffic stop, will you please stop saying every single time “we’re ok”. Example. 9xx traffic stop 4900 S Ashland were ok”. Listen.. we know you’re ok. Once you say send more cars we will then think you’re not OK. It sounds dumb.. real dumb. Is this only a midnight thing because I’ve heard this in other districts just on midnights. Also, feel free to put yourself down on a stop utilizing the “t-stop” button on the PDT. The only reason you have for going down on the radio so much is to make yourself heard.. just do your job. Stay off the radio and pull an RD via PDT, Aira or by calling the AD desk when you have an arrest.
6/12/2019 01:03:00 AM
Hey midnight scanner monitor, go to sleep. We do things over the air on 1st Watch so everyone knows where we're at if things go south. Going down on a stop using the "T-Stop" button means only the computer knows where we are and what were doing until someone looks for us. We'll keep doing it our way, thanks.
#1. Dispatchers on midnights always ask if your ok once you go down a traffic stop, so before they ask they just tell them. #2. Going down on traffic stop over the radio came down by commander, logic since shit can go south quick let people know where you are in case it does. If you Don’t like it, don’t work ot on midnights.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To the youngsters in 009 on midnights.. when going down on a traffic stop, will you please stop saying every single time “we’re ok”. Example. 9xx traffic stop 4900 S Ashland were ok”. Listen.. we know you’re ok. Once you say send more cars we will then think you’re not OK. It sounds dumb.. real dumb. Is this only a midnight thing because I’ve heard this in other districts just on midnights. Also, feel free to put yourself down on a stop utilizing the “t-stop” button on the PDT. The only reason you have for going down on the radio so much is to make yourself heard.. just do your job. Stay off the radio and pull an RD via PDT, Aira or by calling the AD desk when you have an arrest.
I feel for the officers having to be away from your families. That said, if i were you, i'd work. I'd stop every mover I came across. Go into the dog parks and ticket every dog owner whose dog doesn't have a city license. Arrest everyone with so much as a firecracker. But only in 16, 17, 19, 18, 20, and 24. (if there is anyone working in those districts...). oh, that might be profiling do it everywhere. well, everywhere you can do it and stay safe.
Hit the medical!
Some may be fortunate enough to get in those P-Days.
Some will get those bunions taken care of.
And some will never, ever see the Streets.
(LightLoafer: “We need EVERYONE on board.”
Since the 4th is mid-week will it affect house mice battened down doing paperwork ??
Makes me laugh how the New World Order Department has evolved.
There used to be a select few that would submit time due slips to have off Christmas Eve and Day during the first week of January preceding.
The WC and the House Secretary bemoaning, they decided that no slips can be submitted until the first day of the period.
Lari LightLoafer is willing to circumvent the Contract, with help from the milquetoast Team SpecialEd, FOP should consider adding time constraints to the negotiations for these pending feral violence details.
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Chicago Police Officers do NOT have a union.
We have a social club, brotherhood, fraternity.
CPU?
That's a union!
Sorry, that should be:
CTU
That's a union!
I’m ok on a traffic stop......
I always wondered how somebody is ok before approaching the car and taking to the driver?
In the best interest of the members ARBITRATION is the way to go. FOP are you listening ????
Something tells me Lori isn’t going to want to budge on any of FOP’s suggestions or demands.
Blogger I Fart In Your General Direction said...
Get some time on the job, kid, and the “restricted” part of this teletype won’t apply to you. You’ll be one of the handful of people that has enough seniority to get those days off.
Or take that 7A furlough... when you have some time on the job, kid, and it won’t be an issue.
You cry when they pull this shit last minute and now you’re crying when they’re giving you ample heads up to plan accordingly.
My point? We’ve all been through this when we had no time on the job. And if you’re one of the Tactical Superstars or Unit Prima Donnas complaining? Well, you shoulda read the fine print when you signed up to be part of the “elite”.
I’ll be thinking of you chumps while I’m BBQing and knocking back beers with family and friends at the summer place on the lake.
6/12/2019 01:19:00 AM
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I have 25 years on and I was forced to work my RDOs over Memorial Day weekend because I am on 3rd Watch. Those on 1st and 2nd Watch got their RDOs off. Explain "Seniority" to me.
I wonder when FOP will come out and call the mayor out on the treatment of PO's, the amount of stress the city puts on us is out of control. Cancelling days off without regards to you or your family obligations, forced OT working with maybe one day off. The constant harassment from incompetent merit hack supervisors who never did anything to deserve the promotion except get on their knees. The media constantly flaming the fames that keep the citizen stirred up by repeating the same bullshit stories over and over again not caring that the stories are not completely true and no retractions when the stories are proven false. Why doesn't FOP explain to the undeserving elected nitwit politician that the reason crime is out of control is because all the tools that we have to address crime has been taken always by the ACLU, Politicians, and the foolish people you think that the police are the problem. The chosen who cheat on exams and fat Eddie doing nothing about it and than keep promoting to specials spots newly created for them. We as the police are treated as the lowest of the low and are mental and physical health does not matter to the mayor or the merit hack supervisors on this department and why should they get off all the time they want including working maybe a half of a shift. The city just keeps plying the shit on and we have no recourse but to take it because FOP does nothing but collect their salary and remain quite. The mayor with all her shit ideas still think crime reduction can be accomplished with the help of community policing she needs to wake up has been tried and failed it just gave some inside dolly a place to hide. My parting shot is F@CK THIS CITY AND THE NO ACCOUNT CITIZEN, YOU DOING NOTHING TO EDUCATE YOUR CHILDREN AND LET THEM RUN WILD UNTIL THE ARE DEAD OR ARRESTED AND THAN IT'S THE POLICE FAULT AND YOU WIN THE GETHO LOTTERY FROM THE CITY. STAY FETAL AND THEY WONER WHY MORAL IS LOW
This is a fairly recent problem. I remember when I first got on taking off Memorial, 4th, Thanksgiving, Xmas, and New Years just wasn't happening because I had no seniority. The good thing back then was if I was rdo, I could plan on enjoying it. Now this whole more with less nonsense is impeding people enjoying holidays with loved ones.
“To the youngsters in 009 on midnights.. when going down on a traffic stop, will you please stop saying every single time “we’re ok”. Example. 9xx traffic stop 4900 S Ashland were ok”. Listen.. we know you’re ok. Once you say send more cars we will then think you’re not OK. It sounds dumb.. real dumb. Is this only a midnight thing because I’ve heard this in other districts just on midnights. Also, feel free to put yourself down on a stop utilizing the “t-stop” button on the PDT. The only reason you have for going down on the radio so much is to make yourself heard.. just do your job. Stay off the radio and pull an RD via PDT, Aira or by calling the AD desk when you have an arrest.”
Easy tough guy. You clearly like yourself too much! If the kids want to go over the air on a T-stop and say they are ok why the hell does it bother you. Back in the day there was no Tstop button. Take your 7 years on and learn something!
Not complaining about getting days cancelled, but the fact that working VRI on a tuesday in february pays the same rate as a cancelled saturday on memorial day weekend is trash. Ask a city electrician what they get paid for a saturday of Ot. If the union doesnt at the very least attempt to address the rate we are getting paid for these cancelled holiday weekends, then we can almost guarentee they are in bed with the city.
This bull-shit has been goin on since the 80's, fuck this union, they agreed 2 all this crap!
Some very ignorant and stupid responses on this thread. the one bragging about how much time they have in a job and get some time on the job kid was especially ignorant. on Memorial Day they did not care how much time you have on a job in cancelled days off, this was kind of the point of the original post. and as for the person saying they let us know more than 21 days in advance you actually might want to read the contract itself and see what it says before you post stupid s***. I'm sure someone's going to say but hey they haven't canceled days off yet. Well since they're restricting time due more than 21 days in advance they know that there's an issue aka pre planned event, so now if they start canceling days off they are violating the contract.
would they be trying to get rid of "DA"?
Just watched FOP present arguments to Mayor Lightfoot at city council meeting......
And Lightfoot decided to insult the entire union and it’s members!
Guess we are now in a hostile work environment being a union member working for current mayor.
We are at war! And the enemy is the Mayor
Anonymous Quit chasing !!! said...
OT - the skulls full of mush in 011 were “following” a black Trailblazer with temp plates all last night. FOR TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS. They called in this vehicle at least 3 times in Half an hour or so. At one point the car crossed south of Roosevelt into 010 where some sgt with half a brain told everybody to “not pursue” it. I counted ...only 3 seconds had elapsed to have that Trailblazer travel from Madison to Roosevelt. Seriously...SERIOUSLY.... somebody needs to spank these dummies before the inevitable happens AGAIN. What the fuck don’t you guys yet understand about chasing/following/pursuing/whatever????? The lieutenant or XO or commander needs to order these idiots to totally refrain in these instances, and furthermore not even put the shit over the air tying up the radio for nothing.
Have to agree with you on chases, but there has to be some middle ground. Once the word gets out that all you have to do is drive away from the police, there will be anarchy on the west side.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
What does it matter how many police are forced to work days off around holiday? In my district the bodies fill the caps and front offices and the empty squad cars fill the lot. You wouldnt have to cancel rdo holidays if resources were used appropriately. The tact teams could man a rapid too. They signed up, I might as well wear bluejeans on cancelled rdo holiday as protest. send me home unpaid....maybe i'll get my day off after all.
The bosses and Lori are never going to empty the front office and CAPS of the special people. They are the DC’s people and they will protect and the DC could care less what the superintendent or Lori say
“You know, there were rumors floating around about, but rumors floating around that — I have given up writing tickets and Parkers and non felony arrests because it leads people to poverty crimes
Come on there youngsters you took this job knowing this could happen, don’t act surprised please it was like this and will always be like this!
Don’t blame the union make the cash get that jacked up wrangler, wear skinny jeans and backwards baseball cap, looking good!
HEY FOP, can you please invest in a spokesperson! I mean WTF, was that at the hearing today! No wonder she won’t take you guys seriously, you look ridiculous!
Anonymous said...
To the youngsters in 009 on midnights.. when going down on a traffic stop, will you please stop saying every single time “we’re ok”. Example. 9xx traffic stop 4900 S Ashland were ok”. Listen.. we know you’re ok. Once you say send more cars we will then think you’re not OK. It sounds dumb.. real dumb. Is this only a midnight thing because I’ve heard this in other districts just on midnights. Also, feel free to put yourself down on a stop utilizing the “t-stop” button on the PDT. The only reason you have for going down on the radio so much is to make yourself heard.. just do your job. Stay off the radio and pull an RD via PDT, Aira or by calling the AD desk when you have an arrest.
6/12/2019 01:03:00 AM
Really this bothers you. YOu are some kind of idiot. Grow up. There is nothing wrong with what these officers are doing. Safety is a number one priority on this job you goof
Whoever just wrote that a car went from Madison to Roosevelt in 3 seconds is either lying or cannot count. That could be accomplished with a fighter jet, but no car goes 1.5 miles in 3 seconds. I know you're trying to make a point, but that's just as bad as hearing someone say that an AR-15 can shoot 300 rounds a second or has a velocity of 3 miles/second. Proofread your posts otherwise they just look like 95% of the paper I see written in this department
These holidays continue sneaking up on everyone. Who would have guessed that the 4th of July comes the same time every year?
Anonymous said...
If you want time off on those dates then just put it in the system. It's a scare tactic that works on most coppers. Just do it if really want the time off
6/12/2019 12:59:00 AM
Not true. In our district the commander denies anyone that doesn’t provide copies of tickets to something. Basically need plane tickets somewhere to get off.
Blogger I Fart In Your General Direction said...
Get some time on the job, kid, and the “restricted” part of this teletype won’t apply to you. You’ll be one of the handful of people that has enough seniority to get those days off.
Or take that 7A furlough... when you have some time on the job, kid, and it won’t be an issue.
You cry when they pull this shit last minute and now you’re crying when they’re giving you ample heads up to plan accordingly.
My point? We’ve all been through this when we had no time on the job. And if you’re one of the Tactical Superstars or Unit Prima Donnas complaining? Well, you shoulda read the fine print when you signed up to be part of the “elite”.
I’ll be thinking of you chumps while I’m BBQing and knocking back beers with family and friends at the summer place on the lake.
6/12/2019 01:19:00 AM
If you are really at a lake house whooping it up, why would you be thinking about "chumps" back at work? Most likely you are a sad and lonely person who enjoys the disappointment of others. Sad. Please call EAP.
OT: say bye to Virginia. Virginia welcome to crime shitcago style.
https://dmlnewsapp.com/report-soros-scores-wins-va-prosecutor-primaries-defeating-incumbents-progressive-candidates/
Maybe it’s tome to move to Poland or other shit banning country.
OT: just heard she wants to lift residency requirement to appease FOP
To the youngsters in 009 on midnights.. when going down on a traffic stop, will you please stop saying every single time “we’re ok”. Example. 9xx traffic stop 4900 S Ashland were ok”. Listen.. we know you’re ok. Once you say send more cars we will then think you’re not OK. It sounds dumb.. real dumb. Is this only a midnight thing because I’ve heard this in other districts just on midnights. Also, feel free to put yourself down on a stop utilizing the “t-stop” button on the PDT. The only reason you have for going down on the radio so much is to make yourself heard.. just do your job. Stay off the radio and pull an RD via PDT, Aira or by calling the AD desk when you have an arrest.
At least they go down on their stops. In 003 all the rookies and 3 year wonders don’t say a word. KM and the 06 rookies want to keep everything a secret to impress Lt MM sgt RJ and the almighty know it all 368.
A sergeant with "half a brain" said don't pursue a vehicle for traffic violations?
Maybe you're the one with half a brain.
Wait until you meet 5790. Even Don Jerome is afraid of him.
Every other union has specific instances where time-and-one=half just doesn't cut it. The City screws over the police because even if you win a Grievance, the penalty can only be.....time-and-one-half, so they get away with what would be extra penalties for any other union.
Labels: contract stuff
Remember liberals believe Police officer are paid to be seen and not heard. If a certain part of society acts up you are there to protect everyone...
To the person complaining about 009th discrict officers pulling stops , why don't you say something to them them instead of complaining here about it
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I’ll be hitting the medical if denied. Enough of this shit already, cancelling days off like they’re passing out candy. Hire more fucking people already.
6/12/2019 04:40:00 AM
There’s manpower, they are just not on the street.
OT Have not heard anything about the goof Sgt RG. What has happen to him since his incident on lower Wacker?
Also wasn't there a story a few months ago about about Fat Ed's wife sueing the city cause she was denied a promotion cause of race? What is the news on this incedent?
I’ll be hitting the medical if denied. Enough of this shit already, cancelling days off like they’re passing out candy. Hire more fucking people already.
6/12/2019 04:40:00 AM
They hired more last year and as fast as they hired them they found another office or room to put them in. Open up a new room , throw in a few more chairs and add a few new titles
In the real world, it's time and a half for Saturday's, and double time for Sundays. Some people get triple OT on Holidays, so the company never asks them to work holidays. Anything Over 8 hours in a normal day is time and a half.
Somewhere along the line, FOP gave up way too much...time to get it back.
Just say'n...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
If you want time off on those dates then just put it in the system. It's a scare tactic that works on most coppers. Just do it if really want the time off
6/12/2019 12:59:00 AM
Not true. In our district the commander denies anyone that doesn’t provide copies of tickets to something. Basically need plane tickets somewhere to get off.
6/12/2019 01:36:00 PM
Has to be done by seniority. If somebody gets off with less time than you, grieve it.
The bosses and Lori are never going to empty the front office and CAPS of the special people. They are the DC’s people and they will protect and the DC could care less what the superintendent or Lori say
6/12/2019 11:53:00 AM
Empty them! They just added another full-time position.
I have 25 years on and I was forced to work my RDOs over Memorial Day weekend because I am on 3rd Watch. Those on 1st and 2nd Watch got their RDOs off. Explain "Seniority" to me.
6/12/2019 10:31:00 AM
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If it violates the contract, file a grievance. Everyone should file one every single time the contract is violated.
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We need more heads!!!
You’ll have no life......... and you’ll like it!!
Watching Murray from fop at city council mtg was kind of embarrassing. We can’t get anyone better to speak for us?
And let’s not be confrontational just for the sake of not going along with the mayor. We need to embrace reform, true reform, not the political bullshit that they are trying to sell as reform. Like a lot of fellow officers I voted for Lori hoping that just maybe she would really change the department and flush away some of the shit but it seems like she doesn’t know which are the turds.
Reform means real transparency in all the department’s dealings. That means real hiring standards that even special people must meet, real promotion standards and not our political merit system. It means real training, not the typical watered down bullshit the CPD has provided for my almost 30 fucking years. We should not be fighting reform, we should be demanding TRUE reform ourselves. Or we can just sit by and do nothing, I’m good with that too ms. Mayor.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I’m ok on a traffic stop......
I always wondered how somebody is ok before approaching the car and taking to the driver?
6/12/2019 09:54:00 AM
You’re ok...... until you’re suddenly not.
OT: just heard she wants to lift residency requirement to appease FOP
6/12/2019 02:35:00 PM
She will not even talk with the FOP until they agree to go along with reform. She said it today at the city council meeting. She is not talking about incremental change. She wants everything about our contract changed from the ground up. She wants the FOP to totally succumb to her will and ideas before even walking in the door. She is gunning for the FOP and our contract. She is not looking to negotiate. She is not willing to negotiate. She is committed to her way or the highway. She has already drawn the line in the sand.
to those criticizing the newer officers for going down on the radio. it was not long ago when that is all you had. technology is not always the best thing. like a poster said, Safety first.
6/12/2019 02:43:00 PM
Thats your big complaint. I really hope your trolling for blast responses. Telling the dispatcher that you are on a traffic stop is fine and good. Don't care what watch you're working. You relating to every car in the district your location. Saying your ok is just a polite way of saying, if your close and want to slide by, "Thanks". But there is no reason at this time to come flying from a distance. The PDT option doesn't let people know where your at, just the dispatcher. But maybe you just want the peace and quiet while your backed up in the hole drooling and dreaming about your incredible war stories of yesterday's gone when you were the police. (NOT). No need to bust someones balls for a good safety practice.
Our Union looked like fools at the City Council addressing the mayor. We don’t have an articulate speaker amongst the entire union?
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"Have to agree with you on chases, but there has to be some middle ground. Once the word gets out that all you have to do is drive away from the police, there will be anarchy on the west side."
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If you're working for Chicago, you are working for the "anarchy".
"Middle ground"? JVD?
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: just heard she wants to lift residency requirement to appease FOP
6/12/2019 02:35:00 PM
Did you see the Mayor’s exchange with VP Murray at the City Council today? Oh yeah, she is looking to appease the FOP.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: just heard she wants to lift residency requirement to appease FOP
6/12/2019 02:35:00 PM
You left out the part she is going to give us 10% raise each year for 5 years along with straight seniority and no more merit promotions
Yea, she wants to appease FOP. Give me a break
If you are really at a lake house whooping it up, why would you be thinking about "chumps" back at work? Most likely you are a sad and lonely person who enjoys the disappointment of others. Sad. Please call EAP.
6/12/2019 01:59:00 PM
Agree. He must be a real pleasure to be around
Anonymous Anonymous said...
These holidays continue sneaking up on everyone. Who would have guessed that the 4th of July comes the same time every year?
6/12/2019 12:30:00 PM
When is the 4 of July. Lol
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To the youngsters in 009 on midnights.. when going down on a traffic stop, will you please stop saying every single time “we’re ok”. Example. 9xx traffic stop 4900 S Ashland were ok”. Listen.. we know you’re ok. Once you say send more cars we will then think you’re not OK. It sounds dumb.. real dumb. Is this only a midnight thing because I’ve heard this in other districts just on midnights. Also, feel free to put yourself down on a stop utilizing the “t-stop” button on the PDT. The only reason you have for going down on the radio so much is to make yourself heard.. just do your job. Stay off the radio and pull an RD via PDT, Aira or by calling the AD desk when you have an arrest.
6/12/2019 01:03:00 AM
Not a youngster here. I LIKE hearing guys go down over the air so if I’m around I can slide by whether they want help or not, especially if they are young guys on mids.
After today’s city council meeting it is clear..
Arbitration NOW!!
The Mayor will not negotiate.
So much effort to prevent you from spending time
with your family and ZERO effort to boost morale!!
Department exempts speak about Officer wellbeing
with no action. Allowing supervisors to continue
demoralizing Officers to the point of the destroying
their mental health! This BS has to STOP
Just remember while your working your RDO on that holiday weekend,
Our Mayor will be flying to have brunch with another media big shot like Oprah in California!
This is why police are just hated everywhere!
We are the only ones speaking the truth about crime in this cesspool
They OWN U! Don’t forget it. It’s a Semi Military Organization which means you’re not a Civilian.
It only gets worse
The young POs OTJ that aren’t hooked up are FUCKED
Time is on the young POs side, so consider a different career.
Please consider a different Career or you’ll be angry all the time, divorced, playing the 1st & 16th game, and taking Orders from a Clout child that U would otherwise run intellectual circles around.
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Sooooooo I’m thinking the residency thing is not gonna happen
HEY FOP, can you please invest in a spokesperson! I mean WTF, was that at the hearing today! No wonder she won’t take you guys seriously, you look ridiculous!
I watched it live.
The guy from 008 needs to rehearse more without reading from cards.
Thank you 008 guy doing it on your own time.
FOP guy was terrible. He made good points, but delivery was bad.
The bottom line in addressing the Mayor today was to call her out . If the Union doesn’t they are in bed with the city . Lori Lightfoot is trying her best to take away our contractual rights such as the sworn affidavit . She wants to make it easier to discipline and fire officers . She reacted by losing her temper when she was called out by VP Murray . The mayor has put together a transition team with input from everyone including Father Pfleger and Jamal Green . You want these people deciding your fate ? The mayor is frustrated because the current regime at the Lodge will not acquiesce like the previous ones . Is it frustrating waiting for a contract or is it better to wait for a better one ? Can’t have it both ways !!
So it isn't anarchy on the Westside now? Where have you been?
Did you see the Mayor’s exchange with VP Murray at the City Council today? Oh yeah, she is looking to appease the FOP.
6/12/2019 07:37:00 PM
A good response to her would have been "And, our door is open to you Ms. Mayor, should you desire to ever have a reasonable conversation and/or negotiation, but please know, our priority, our Job #1 is preserving the contractual rights of our members."
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If Murray had brainstormed with others concerning the words he had written on those blue cards, he might have been prepared with a polite, but pointed response to her wise ass, flippant response to him. He was not prepared for a word joust with her.
Lightfoot, not one to shy away from confrontation, fried back.
“Mr, Murray, anytime that the FOP wants to do anything other than obstruct and object to reform, I’d be more than willing to meet with you,” she said.
https://wgntv.com/2019/06/12/mayor-lightfoot-to-unveil-ethics-reform-measures-at-city-council-meeting/
“The only reason you have for going down on the radio so much is to make yourself heard.. just do your job. Stay off the radio and pull an RD via PDT, Aira or by calling the AD desk when you have an arrest.”
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Oh look. Someone woke up a dinosaur. Listen ace, the radio is used for the safety of all officers. News flash, but every other department goes down on traffic stops over the radio with plate info, location, how many heads etc. Saying you have a t stop at wherever location is perfectly fine. No one is trying to hear themselves on the radio.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I blame the fop.
WTF are we paying you people for?
6/12/2019 12:45:00 AM
Then start electing better officers for that position!
Stop electing “so-n-so” because he’s a “good guy” or a “great cop”.
Start electing people that know about contract law, negotiation... and more importantly, know how to keep the membership TOGETHER, as one.
Not district against units, old against new officers...
The Mayors standpoint is we can all bend over and take it in the ass. Because what are we going to do, strike?
I have no problem with going over the air for a traffic stop and saying you're ok. It's a safety thing and you can't be too safe. However, I don't understand why people have to go over the air to get rd for 143a. Aira is down. Stop showing off and act like you've gotten one before. It's especially hilarious when they ask for a repeat on the rd for the 143a.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: just heard she wants to lift residency requirement to appease FOP
If she really does want to lift residency, it will NOT be to appease FOP. It will be to extract MAJOR contract protections. Like most of our due process protections and rights.
If you are accused, you are assumed guilty until you are cleared, which will not happen!
Don't fall for that deal. You have a complaint by a heavy, you will be gone on the stroke of a pen.
If any police officer does any police work in such a hostile legal environment is a fool.
Lightgroot and the SJWs believe that every allegation is totally true. A strange stance for a former prosecutor. Tho it shows what kind of legal mind she has.
Have to agree with you on chases, but there has to be some middle ground. Once the word gets out that all you have to do is drive away from the police, there will be anarchy on the west side.
6/12/2019 11:46:00 AM You definitely do not work in 011 or 015 lol
agree with 7:04. worked for a city dept. worked o/t on all the holidays. couldnt wait till i had enough seniority to take holidays off. we had to pick the whole year by jan 15. so i would take all the major holidays to take my pack of kids traveling to tourist destinations. pissed off my merit hdo boss and his special people. we could only have a few guys off at a time. well i found out holidays suck majorly to travel. crowds congestion, traffic and premium pricing for everything. so what i did was still put in for the holidays, locked em in, and sold them to the worthless political pukes that had some important gang banger affair to attend on a major holiday. started traveling before and after and mid week and off season. retired know, can travel whenever i want and still dont travel on holidays. good advice from 7:04 try it youll like it!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: just heard she wants to lift residency requirement to appease FOP
6/12/2019 02:35:00 PM
Did you see the Mayor’s exchange with VP Murray at the City Council today? Oh yeah, she is looking to appease the FOP.
6/12/2019 07:37:00 PM
That must have been a sarcastic comment because there is no way a po could possibly believe that the mayor is going to appease the CPD
Then the hiring standards have been lowered
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So it isn't anarchy on the Westside now? Where have you been?
6/12/2019 10:31:00 PM
Worked the west side for a lot of years and at present we aren’t there yet
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: just heard she wants to lift residency requirement to appease FOP
Yep, we have her on the ropes. Was quite apparent at the city council meeting. Anybody could see she was scared
Wake up , your dreaming and naive if you think she is going to appease us
Ok. Another police-off between 5790 and Don Jerome. Have at it boys.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT: just heard she wants to lift residency requirement to appease FOP
If she really does want to lift residency, it will NOT be to appease FOP. It will be to extract MAJOR contract protections. Like most of our due process protections and rights.
If you are accused, you are assumed guilty until you are cleared, which will not happen!
Don't fall for that deal. You have a complaint by a heavy, you will be gone on the stroke of a pen.
If any police officer does any police work in such a hostile legal environment is a fool.
Lightgroot and the SJWs believe that every allegation is totally true. A strange stance for a former prosecutor. Tho it shows what kind of legal mind she has.
6/13/2019 12:16:00 AM
The residency rumor again. We have heard that rumor for 30 years. There is absolutely no benefit for the city to lift residency requirements. Do you really believe that the new mayor really cares about morale or if the FOP is happy? She is at war with the union. In her mind, the FOP stands in thew way for true police reform. Why left a large group of tax payers leave the city who pay taxes? Never, ever going to happen. You can wish, dream, pray but the city will never give up residency for city employees. Sorry but you are stuck in this great city until retirement or a new job.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Have to agree with you on chases, but there has to be some middle ground. Once the word gets out that all you have to do is drive away from the police, there will be anarchy on the west side.
6/12/2019 11:46:00 AM You definitely do not work in 011 or 015 lol
6/13/2019 01:21:00
Yes I did
"She will not even talk with the FOP until they agree to go along with reform. She said it today at the city council meeting. She is not talking about incremental change. She wants everything about our contract changed from the ground up. She wants the FOP to totally succumb to her will and ideas before even walking in the door. She is gunning for the FOP and our contract. She is not looking to negotiate. She is not willing to negotiate. She is committed to her way or the highway. She has already drawn the line in the sand.
You are correct.
FOP should stall.
The longer we have this contract, the better off we are.
Let the FF & teachers determine the pay raise.
Watch the FF on minimum staffing.
Watch the CTU on class size, etc.
If they don't cave in, we won't have to either.
Did you see the Mayor’s exchange with VP Murray at the City Council today? Oh yeah, she is looking to appease the FOP.
6/12/2019 07:37:00 PM
Murray handed her a walk-off home run.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"Fraternal Order Of Police" its not a "police Union" This is nothing more than a social club that CPD Officers pay into and get very little in return. We can get way more bang for our buck.
6/12/2019 04:44:00 AM
Exactly. We could do better without them. The only thing the FOP "Lounge" 7 is good for is planning golf outings and picnics. In 25 years I can't remember a contract being settled on time, and when they are setteled years after they had expired, we've gotten screwed.
I feel most elected FOP have good intentions initially, but some may get corrupted once in office for a stretch, just like most politicians.
Uhmm I’m in the academy this week & detectives are extended another week for training with no actual classes or curriculum but just to be deployed at the city’s will.. at the last minute I hear some of them calling to cancel plans with the family.. CPD the Chicago way!
I think it’s great to read comments by so many veteran officers shaming the one shit-talker who has a problem with cops calling out their stops. It really is refreshing to see you guys go to bat for each other and doing things the right way for officer safety, especially during a time when more violence is exacted upon cops than any other. Good for you guys sticking together. And shame on the guy whose nap is interrupted by radio traffic.
You can thank dean Angelo that took away duty availability for new hires that’s why recruits don’t get days canceled.. Thx you fat prick for screwing patrol to get your son promoted.
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