Casino Sites
Five choices, all of them less than ideal:
The Reese and Pershing sites have limited access and potential.
The US Steel property is an ecological nightmare. Why stop there when you can go five minutes away to Indiana?
Harborside isn't convenient to much.
And a casino in 011? At least it's closer to the suburban customers and near 290 for downtown access. Twenty-five years ago, that site was under a few billion tons of rubble from the Dan Ryan project that Bill Henry took $5,000 in bribes for.
But there's a connected contract to hand out:
The US Steel property is an ecological nightmare. Why stop there when you can go five minutes away to Indiana?
Harborside isn't convenient to much.
And a casino in 011? At least it's closer to the suburban customers and near 290 for downtown access. Twenty-five years ago, that site was under a few billion tons of rubble from the Dan Ryan project that Bill Henry took $5,000 in bribes for.
But there's a connected contract to hand out:
- Mayor Lori Lightfoot is floating five sites, all on the city’s South and West sides, as possible locations for a Chicago casino, her office said Wednesday.
A state-hired consultant will study the economic feasibility of the sites and report its findings to the state and city. City officials stressed that the casino won’t necessarily wind up at one of the five spots, which they characterized as test sites, but the choices suggest that Lightfoot seeks to fulfill her campaign promise to direct growth to the city’s struggling areas.
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You don't need a casino.
Chicago itself is a fucking gamble.
Yes- casinos boats off of navy pier—the north end of it
Who in their right mind would go to the casino in 011........
Anywhere on Elston Ave between Fullerton and Chicago,ave. Lots of potential,there. Close to,the expressway and the Chicago,river.
Bribes. Skimming. Money laundering.
Assaults, robbery, carjacking.
Chamber of Commerce stuff.
Goose Island or the Lincoln Yards project in the 18th District.
The South and West Side locations will provide a carte blanche invite to armed robbers. Who in their right mind would want to visit those locations, particularly at night. Why go to the former U.S. Steel land with an Indiana casino only minutes away.
Bring the Casino to The Mt. Greenwood/Beverly Area!
The Northeast part will participate heavily. The South Part would have a litany of JOBS w/City Benes and a fraction of the Traditional Jobs.
Evergreen, OAK LAWN, Palos, and Orland would be fantastic, but the TRUE Southern Suburbs would bring decent people ready to have a great time and generate a hefty Profit for this Project.
By the time you build it, America will be in a recession.
Urban blight. Think Trump Atlantic City.
Unemployment, workers comp, slip & falls, ghetto lottery.
All on the way.
All across the U.S.: mousey female bookkeeper embezzles
stacks upon stacks. When caught, attorney says client has
a gambling addiction. Bullshit!
Casinos: a fake job for people who barely graduated h.s.
Casinos are worse than the Olympics
Please put it at kostner and Roosevelt, I’ll need to go buy more popcorn.
Put the casino at Kostner and Roosevelt in 011. Model it like Monte Carlo with plenty of valet parking for Ferraris, Lamborghinis, Bentleys and Rolls Royces just like Monaco.
Eat your heart out Vegas. What happens in Fillmo' stays in Fillmo'.
You can’t fix stupid. Put it at Roosevelt and Kostner and people with a half a brain wont go where they may get robbed, shot, etc...and on the other side of that coin, someone will cry that the casino will be a detriment to the black community because it will be making money off the people who can least afford to lose it. Don’t put it anywhere near the tourist attractions downtown, possibly on the lakefront, at, let’s say, old McCormick Place, where Arie Crown Theatre is, by Soldier Field, the Field Museum, that new arena that they built (that we didn’t need) for DePaul. Don’t put it a few minutes away from the state’s largest tourist attraction, Navy Pier. Don’t put it in proximity to new McCormick Place, where you have numerous trade shows, and the annual auto show. It’s obvious Bugeyes never played a Sim City type video game back in the day.
South works site is best. Who cares about Indiana. We need to build up the
4th district like when the mill was operating. You say it’s an ecological problem
but funny how a lot of money was made at that mill, that’s why people had the
resources to move to Indiana , along with Orland, Tinley , Mokena, New Lenox
and other southwestern suburbs. Time to give back , u runaways! Where do you
want the Casino? Mount Greenwood or Edison Park?
Every one of those locations is surrounded by people with no disposable income, and no impulse control. A casino won't improve those areas, it will make them worse.
Meigs field.
Who in their fucking right mind would go to a casino in 011, that is known for its street corner hookers, curbside drug stores, and its weekly contributions to the city’s morgue, to gamble? Tourists and morons. And how long will that last once the ducks are plucked of their winnings when news gets out on the internet blog sites and word of mouth? Another failed financial investment because of demorat insider oversight and of demorat fucking over and talking for granted a portion of the city’s population.
The demorats think a casino will magically erase what they have been reaping for what they sowed for decades.
Unfucking believable. Two Targets closed on the south side, Target is building a new store at foster and Cicero on the northwest side. I'm just sayin.. Good enough for Target, good enough for a casino
Why not the old rockwell gardens site?
The geographical center of Chicago is at the intersection of 3700 S. Honore. Why not go two blocks south on Pershing/Honore where the old board of education buildings are? The city already owns the land and the site which gives them an opportunity to make some major money. The city already said a private company would own and run the casino and the city would gets a 10% profit from it. Well, the millionaire that was Ray Kroc once said, it’s not the building that’s going to make you the money, but it’s the land it sits on that will. He went on to purchase land which he then leased to McDonalds franchise owners that made him his millions. Lease the land and take your cut!!! Make us some god damn money already!!!!!!
Oh yeah!!!
She’s gonna get rich on this deal, as well as other city officials.
It better be the Michael Reese Hospital site.
IIRC: If the City doesn't build on that property in the next few years, the City is going to owe in the neighborhood of $50 Million in interest payments.
https://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20160930/bronzeville/theres-radioactive-waste-on-michael-reese-site-city-is-marketing/
..."There have been numerous studies and plans for the site since the city bought the property, which will have amassed $50 million in interest payments if the city does not sell it by 2024."...
And how much is the City in Debt?
Thanks Lil Dick Daley
May you rot before you go to Hell!
We need a Blue Ribbon Committee (highly paid of course) to study this for at least another ten years!
Yeah this will be great for impoverished people to gamble whatever money they have away. Seems racist to me. She is doing these people no favors.
https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/pol/d/chicago-new-casino-locations/6936548806.html
The Mayor in her infinite wisdom has suggested 5 locations.
1) 111th Street and the Bishop Ford Freeway.
2) 31st Street and Cottage Grove.
3) Pershing and State.
4) Roosevelt and Kostner.
and
80th Street and Lake Shore Drive.
It will be a difficult decision as all 5 have one thing in common. That's right, some of the highest crime rates in the USA.
In an area where People (and Folks) are routinely murdered for $20 bucks or a stolen Link Card the thought of someone going for an evening stroll with a few thousand stuffed in their pockets after a successful run at the tables must be a Godsend for those Criminal-Americans that seem to inhabit those areas.
Now I'm not saying everyone there will be involved in robberies, far from it. There are the Prostitutes, Dope Dealers, Carjackers, Loan Sharks, Pawn Brokers and just plain old Fences who must also practice their trade in an attempt to service some of the casino's clientele.
And what better environment to apply those skills than where Fast-Easy Money is the coin of the realm and what better way to teach the next generation the value of hard work and perseverance than the lure of a few hundred bucks gained by rolling someone who had a few drinks after winning a game or two of craps ?
But let us not forget the Aldercreatures and land speculators who will drive up the price of local Real Estate (meaning Taxes) to recoup the losses suffered when they were outbribed on the 2016 Olympic games to, of all places, Brasil !!!
Not a big deal since, as usual, the taxpayers were/are left holding the bill....
What about the old Leclaire Courts site? That complex aside from the chronic violence, was demolished and removed for a convention center and hotels. But after nearly 10 years of being vacant land still nothing. Buy out the rest of the houses from 44-47 Cicero to Laramie and you have a huge expanse of land to work with, with Midway airport down the street and I55 within throwing distance. 23 ward can finally rid itself of the CVLs and 4CH that occupy the housing over there and contribute to the drugs and violence in the ward. Then, finally Cicero Ave will become revitalized and bring much needed tax revenue back to 60638.
What's on Meigs field?
I'd go with the one off the 290. I'll never go to it, but whatever. And isn't a city owning a private, for-profit business THEE definition of socialism?
People aren’t going to wade through shit to get to gold.
https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/pol/d/chicago-new-casino-locations/6936548806.html
The Mayor in her infinite wisdom has suggested 5 locations.
1) 111th Street and the Bishop Ford Freeway.
2) 31st Street and Cottage Grove.
3) Pershing and State.
4) Roosevelt and Kostner.
and
80th Street and Lake Shore Drive.
It will be a difficult decision as all 5 have one thing in common. That's right, some of the highest crime rates in the USA.
In an area where People (and Folks) are routinely murdered for $20 bucks or a stolen Link Card the thought of someone going for an evening stroll with a few thousand stuffed in their pockets after a successful run at the tables must be a Godsend for those Criminal-Americans that seem to inhabit those areas.
Now I'm not saying everyone there will be involved in robberies, far from it. There are the Prostitutes, Dope Dealers, Carjackers, Loan Sharks, Pawn Brokers and just plain old Fences who must also practice their trade in an attempt to service some of the casino's clientele.
And what better environment to apply those skills than where Fast-Easy Money is the coin of the realm and what better way to teach the next generation the value of hard work and perseverance than the lure of a few hundred bucks gained by rolling someone who had a few drinks after winning a game or two of craps ?
But let us not forget the Aldercreatures and land speculators who will drive up the price of local Real Estate (meaning Taxes) to recoup the losses suffered when they were outbribed on the 2016 Olympic games to, of all places, Brasil !!!
Not a big deal since, as usual, the taxpayers were/are left holding the bill....
7/18/2019 02:03:00 AM
Shhhhhhh. That’s a secret. They think we don’t know.
Don't worry those DemocRAT loser politicians will screw this up just like every other decision they make.
Hope the consultant got paid upfront. TheRemember goes another couple million down the drain. They want someone to blame when the ghetto Casino fails. Point figures and say , they told us to build there. The real interesting point will be how large is that companies campaign contribution would Grooms fund will be. Always follow the money.
The casino is a potential billion dollar generating business venture. There is no fucking way it’s investors are going to go along with any of these locations. It will be going to Mccormick place east.
The mayor is just pandering to her base. Gives them the illusion that the mayor is on their side
LeClair courts are you nuts. Who in their right mind would travel thru the gauntlet to get there. From the south a mess, from the west a mess and I don't think you can get there from the east. The north is out as well due to traffic issues, so that leaves the local community dwellers as most likely to patronize the place. Good luck with that.
Why bother hire consulting "experts"? The idiots running this city won't listen to them anyway. Casinos, for the most part, are a money-making proposition. Except in Chicago, the worst run city in the worst run county in the worst run state in the country. If and wherever it's built, just more dough to steal, give and piss away. Next idea?
Nothing good will come of a Chicago casino.
Dear Mayor Lightfoot,
WE will let you know where WE want the casino to be located.
Love, The Mob
Great place to cash your welfare check. Count me out I'll still gamble in Michigan or Iowa, much safer.
It won't be at any of those sites. She knows it won't. She is wasting money on the consultants so THEY can say not to have it at any of those sites. Makes me sick.
Michael Reese is the obvious sane choice. Accessible for her constituents to commute for jobs, not too scary an adventure for tourists to get to.
I think a couple more election cycles and legalised prostitution will be floated as another tax revenue stream. Of course with all the same graft of where to locate and another office of clouted individuals to over see it.
The east building of McCormick Place!
It sits empty during most events or is used for truck parking.
It is already wired for electrical and internet use.
And has parking for the entire thing!
Why build something we already have in place?
It will be State St or Michael Reese near downtown. South and West sides named so it gives appearance of fairness
Put it in the middle of Grant Park and call it the Obama Casino
Or put it in City Hall, not used for anything productive now
Or Chicago and Halsted, send the Trib out of town
Pershing and Wentworth, tear down Wentworth Gardens, you have all the ramps for Sox park already,
Tear down everything between 65th to 67th, Stony Island to the Metra tracks,
There’s a decent sized corner lot at 35th/Michigan that is pretty much useless right now maybe they could fit it there. It’s on the S/W corner.
Trump hotel ready
McCormick place East!! McCormick place East!!
how stupid can you be... it's ready to go.. it's near the convention sites... the casinos will invest their money there... you put them on the Westside or Southside, these casinos aren't going to invest their money there, cuz they're going to go down, there going to go under... maybe this is just a ploy to give it to the gambling feasibility committee with the recommendation to be at McCormick place East ,(we hope ) because the rest of those places you'll never get the investors to put their money in.
Yeah, that’s right, as the mayor related about parking tickets, booting cars, and city stickers mostly impacting people who can least afford to pay, it’s a brilliant idea to put a casino in their neighborhood, that aught to generate a bunch of revenue for the city. LOL
K-Town Kasino.Link cards accepted.Five star eateries in walking distance-mr.gyros,tasty sub and sharks coming soon.24 hour drug store walk up service.cheap smokes-3 for a dollar untaxed.Tour the nearby Cicero,Illinois Roosevelt Road historic district.
Anonymous said...
What about the old Leclaire Courts site? That complex aside from the chronic violence, was demolished and removed for a convention center and hotels. But after nearly 10 years of being vacant land still nothing. Buy out the rest of the houses from 44-47 Cicero to Laramie and you have a huge expanse of land to work with, with Midway airport down the street and I55 within throwing distance. 23 ward can finally rid itself of the CVLs and 4CH that occupy the housing over there and contribute to the drugs and violence in the ward. Then, finally Cicero Ave will become revitalized and bring much needed tax revenue back to 60638.
7/18/2019 03:05:00 AM
Many developers have looked at this site, however they want public housing to also be included with anything they were going to build Wisconsin billionaires were looking to build a indoor waterpark here but of course the politicians and the morons wanted public housing on the property also they said no way that was the end of that the bullshit they do is ridiculous.
Like our great phenomenal president Donald Trump says the Democrats and their bullshit right here he is correct again the citizens the honest people are really getting tired of their bullshit:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8rzAlNtEKxc
Choose the West side sight, and with it justify building the Crosstown Expressway, and clean up half the city while creating a path for the new road. Then you could "revitalize" the whole city. And while you're at it, construct the new Crosstown out to Peotone, build the new airport, and link it to all the surrounding suburbs with a Metra rail outer ring.
As air traffic moves to Peotone, close Midway and make it a new stadium for the Bears, all the infrastructure will be in place.
There is no opposition to a Crosstown Expressway -- Those protesters are moved out or buried
This brings economic development, there are always going to be challenges, let's at least work on solutions.
Build it in Wrigleyville. All the folks from the south and west side can take the red line there 24/7.
I’ve never been the sharpest tool in the drawer but the Old McCormick place is ready made for casino and would draw well. HIRE the employees from the Southside and develop employee shuttle buses to pick them up and bring them. Build the affordable housing close by in mixed use developments in all the vacant lands along State and Michigan. With the amount of vacant lots and help of TIF Funds and private developers it could be all be done quickly and stress free. It’s not that hard.
Doesn’t matter. They will way over estimate the amount of revenue into the budgets which will time and time again fall short leaving a budget shortfall every year which will cause a bigger hole. They will promise money in the budget to a dozen different things like schools, roads and pensions. When the inflated revenue estimate from the casino for the year doesn’t come through the pension won’t get its cut or a severely undercut amount. Like everything else, they over estimate revenue every year so they can say they have a “balanced” budget at the beginning of the year. Then the real numbers come out and they realize they are 50 million short.
Just keep it away from the north side.
The Thompson Center. State wants to unload. City buys it. Build a Casino/Hotel with some nice condos.
Name the Casino: Best Side Casino,Rock City Casino,Redrum Casino,No Fades Casino,Chance the Wackers Casino,Roll Me Casino,Monte Casino.
omg how fucking stupid are politicians??
just load up mccormack place with slots and gaming tables
done............
The tourists, whose money we want, will never go near any of those places. Also why only 1 location, and why not the south loop. Lots of open land between Cermak and 35th street.
Pulaski at Night
Great sites! Love em all. Just keep a strong security budget to keep the parking deck robberies down. Also, enjoy the gaming agents dumping every collar on the beat cars despite the fact they are sworn.
Oh LL, Bwhahahahahahahahahahaha!
How about the site where the tore down the leclaire courts in 008? It's a big area and It's right off the highway. Close to the
To put a casino anywhere away from down town tourism, conventions, and the business districts is a waste of time, money and resources. Do you really think tourists will leave the down town night life, restaurants and lake front to gamble on the west or south sides. That, in and of itself, is a gamble... with your life.
Kostner and Roosevelt? I can't stop laughing.
What a great idea.........NOT
What happened to Maggie Daley Petunia Park on the Lakefront now that the city has lost a lot of money when Daley demolished the thriving business of Meigs Field?
I thought that was the future site for a casino?
Wait. Wouldn’t all those locations be racist? Looks like they are targeting low income areas to wager their little bits of money. I mean it is 2019 and people are not responsible for their own choices anymore.
Yeah this will be great for impoverished people to gamble whatever money they have away. Seems racist to me. She is doing these people no favors.
7/18/2019 02:01:00 AM
Ha ha - you said “these people.”
This is like opening a bagel Restaraunt next to an ISIS camp, just plain dumb, why would a tourist travel through Indian Country?
It might be in Lightfoots best interest to confer with Gov Pritzker who knows a thing or two about business and ask where he'd put it. You know he'd never put a hotel at ANY of these places.
Anonymous said...
South works site is best. Who cares about Indiana. We need to build up the
4th district like when the mill was operating. You say it’s an ecological problem
but funny how a lot of money was made at that mill,
MEATHEAD, a lot of money was made because they didnt care about the brown soil that comes after the closing. A TON OF MONEY WILL BE NEEDED JUST TO CLEAN THE SOIL.And if u would have paid attention in economic class u would have known that having 2 of the same businesses next to each other will not succeed. Plus u can smoke in Indiana. Can t here.
Really the best place to make the most money would be the Lakeside McCormick place. Building is wired already for a casino. By downtown where the money is at .Ur not going to b killed as soon as u walk out with winnings. remember its about making the most money to put into pension funds. Not about employing the neighborhood.
What about the old meigs field?
The old lady and me do enjoy an occasional casino night, but we still call casinos shrines to the mathematically challenged.
80% of casino revenues come from slot machines. Have you guys seen how many slot machines are already in the West suburbs? Suburban Berwyn alone must have 50 of them just along Roosevelt road.
those 5 sites don't qualify. not shitty enough.
something smells because of the resurrected peotone talk.
with all the beaks that need wetting. this casino will be a disaster.
I retired from CPD a few years ago and also survived Viet Nam, this map looks map like sights targeted for napalm.
The perfect spot would be somewhere accessible to suburbanites, tourists, and conventioneers but unappealing to Chicagoans. That way you get the income while minimizing the city resident problem gamblers you'll be creating. That's cynical, but there it is. The casino should go near McCormick, but the only site they're considering that's even close is Michael Reese.
Based on the potential locations, it seems like the city is just trying to suck money from poor residents; suburbanites and others aren't going to go to shithole neighborhoods to gamble.
Thinking a casino is going to revitalize a neighborhood is stupid. At the sites they're choosing, even if they do get gamblers to go to the casino, they're going to drive in, spend their money at the tables, and drive out. I don't see a lot of people coming from out of town to eat at Church's Chicken.
This whole thing is about plugging holes in the city budget and giving business to connected contractors, not driving tourism.
Pls be in 011!!
🤣🤣
lightfoot had a meeting yesterday with the chicago federation of labor [city trade unions] she wants pension relief,but in what form?
and the most logical location being mccormick place was not on the list because ???
fire fund is at 19% funded the rest not far behind,buckle up!
I’m glad Groot is going to build the casino in one of these locations. Build it as far away as possible from my far northwest side home. Keep the debauchery and debasement of society where it already exists in those south side hell holes.
O'Hare International Terminal on the secure side. Let the out-of-towner crowd get fleeced.
Who puts up the money for this casino ? If a group of investors are doing this, I would think/hope they would do marketing research. A casino is not a sure bet. Would you invest your money in a project at Kostner and Rooselvelt ?
Lightfoot selects 5 possible sites for a casino. She just picked the worst possible locations. The only one with a slight chance of drawing gamblers is 31st and Cottage. And she’s now paying(wasting)money to a company to do an economic study. Attention Lightfoot!!! No one will drive to the south side or west side to gamble. No tourists or business visitors will leave downtown to go there. You don’t need a study. It’s downtown that attracts people. Put it where the action is. The restaurants, bars, businesses, attractions, hotels etc. You will screw up this one time chance. People will just gamble in the suburbs or Indiana. The idea is to make money!
I rather drive and have driven to Four Winds Casino, in New Buffalo, Michigan about an hour away!
Much nicer area and no worries of getting robbed by Pookie and company leaving the casino!
On the way back, I buy gas, food etc. in Indiana before crossing the Socialist line!
Da Pelon
The Mayor is not going to have the final say on where the casino is located. The gaming company (or private equity concerns) that own or manage the casino will decide. The bill that governs the Chicago casino states that the the city will get 1/3, the state 1/3 and the owners 1/3. The owners will have to pay all of the expenses out of their 1/3. This is a questionable arrangement at best. The CEO of Penn National Gaming (Hollywood Casino's) is already on record as saying that he isn't sure anyone will be interested in the Chicago license. He also called the Illinois Gaming Board the "North Koreans" of gaming regulation. They are considered (by most casino owners) to be the worst gaming regulators in the country. The casino must be placed in the exact location where it will make the most money. None of the locations she chose will help any of the people who live nearby.
Chicago will build a casino that loses money for no attendance.
Some keen idea.
Maybe it’s all for community show.
NO CASINO will put there name on the marquee in the ghetto, unless they get their bailout money up front.
Bankrupting the venue in under five years after an expensive infrastructure expenditure and low and guess what, when they fold...
NO PENSION REVENUE.
The money is in the vacant real estate (already glommed up by insiders) that will be sold off to the Casino LLC and turned into section 8 residential for the underserved, maybe a strip mall or two which will take the heat off them to build elsewhere, likely south Loop downtown or along the Chicago River.
Casinos are not in the bidness of losing money.
Take away:
If you don’t win at the craps table there will be less the violent armed robbers waiting in the parking lot to take, or when they follow the mark back home.
Defrocked Asst to a Federal Prosecutor, Lootin’Groot LightLoafer is now officially in the Shortshanks RealEstate & Development Club.
We are Open for Business.
Casinos alone cannot generate profit.
They need gamblers to do that.
Why does Lori think gamblers would rather go to these shit hole sights she’s picked instead of the gamblers going to IN?
Is she really that dense and short sighted?
The parking will have to have security and walls around it or every car will be broken into daily.
Here's exactly what's going to happen. A casino will be built in an "economically challenged" area, because that's what we're supposed to do...to "invest" in those places...to bring financial resources to areas that are "underserved". All the hoodrats will whoop in approval.
Then, in order to support that new investment, efforts will be made to drive out crime. People will begin to see the area as a potential goldmine. They will build homes, and businesses, and hotels, and grocery and convenience stores. Property values will go up along with tax revenue, and there will be a massive influx of cash.
Then, all the hoodrats who used to live there will start yelling "gentrification, unfair!" They will point to other "underserved" shytholes requiring "investment", and wonder why THESE areas have been ignored.
It's an endless cycle. Places BECOME shytholes when residents are indifferent. No amount of outside "investment" can change the way those residents operate. They will just move to another area that hasn't yet reached rock-bottom, and will sprinkle their magic dust there. Sorry to be Captain Obvious.
Are we living in Total Denial? I hate to make a Generalization, but let's get Real here; Chicago is still a segregated City, either by Race or Economics. Many people who live on the Northwest side fled the West side when it "Changed". (Code word for the "Colords" moved in.) The Southwest suburbs are now filled with second generation Chicago "Refugees" who Fled in the White Flight of the 50's to 70's. SO DOES ANYONE SERIOUSLY BELIEVE THAT THESE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO RETURN TO THE SOUTHSIDE OR WESTSIDE TO GAMBLE AND RISK THEIR LIVES IN THE PROCESS? Mayor Lightweight did not do well with her own African American community, and providing jobs for that community may ensure her reign of power. Why is anyone flying in to O'Hare going to want to travel 40 minutes to gamble or be carjacked in a shit area? Building a Casino does not mean people are going to go there to spend their money. If you doubt what I am saying, just consider Atlantic City, New Jersey. Even Trump could not save it. Baby "G"
Anyone else trying to compute how many post-gambling robberies there will be in the parking lots if there is a casino built anywhere near the South or West sides?
This just sounds like a plan to redistribute wealth, via actual robberies.
Anyone who thinks that building a casino in any of those areas will change the neighborhood is nuts. It’s all about the casino making money and if there’s a low turnout because of the terrible location then it will fail. If visitors, business persons or people out for the night, are downtown in hotels why would they make the commute to these locations to go gambling when they could just stay downtown at the bars and restaurants? It’s just not convenient. If the casino were downtown it could possibly be the biggest revenue generator and most successful casino in America. It’s has to be where the people are. It has to be convenient. It has to be unique. Imagine a casino downtown on the lakefront? The location and optics of it will be a huge draw. Jobs galore too. It has to be where people are spending money already. There’s too much competition outside downtown. If people have to commute to it they’ll just go to Rosemont or Indiana.
43rd and Cicero is best option
"A state-hired consultant will study the economic feasibility..."
Now that Wilmette can run Chicago, what state other then Illinois will this state-hired consultant hail from?
Put it on Reese and Pershing.
It is too late. Who is gonna come to this fuckin combat zone to gamble,dine, and try to have some fun ? And you know it will be a big ripoff for parking, etc. too. How fucking stupid can you. Overeducated Pinheads be??? Even the crappy Illinois Suburbs are way better than Shit-cago. Few yes If Any will Come here. You people are all stupid and crazy losers who have destroyed Chicagoland with your Sociocommunist garbage leadership. Fuckin Morons.
do you think that any millionaire investor is going to sync his millions into the God for second west side or Southside? Never going to happen.
Downtown, the Thompson Building. Only choice. Money is going to come from people staying at the downtown hotels, businessmen and tourists. Why make them travel?
Wherever they put it, it is going to look like Biff's Casino in Back to the Future II. Abandon buildings surrounded it. Abandon cars, 55 gallon drums for fires and people begging. Oh wait isn't that Michigan ave?
East side parcel will be a movie studio. The Canadians own half the buildings in 4. Wolf and he friend will build a production studio much like the one on western. Why? Cheap land by the water. Most likely the hospital land close to the Asians. The others are shitholes but she full of stupid ideas
You have got to be kidding, can you imagine building a casino then having the same misunderstood mutts go wilding there like they do downtown... They have no way of stopping them there what makes you think it'll be different at a casino
City Hall sounds like a good location. Would be a more honest enterprise than what's going on there now.
Doesn't matter where it's put, the quality of life will go to shit for anyone living within 10 miles. Twenty-four hour traffic jams, influx of illegal peripheral activities, and a general degradation of the area. A casino, unlike a manufacturing plant, doesn't produce a damn thing. At the end of the day no goods have been created, no wealth has been created. All that's happened is the dim-witted have been enticed to put their money into someone else's pockets, aka wealth redistribution, in the foolish hope of striking it rich despite the overwhelming statistical odds against it.
The state/Pritzker should be ashamed. A casino is a last ditch effort to make money by preying on peoples' weaknesses when the pols are too bereft of original ideas or too unwilling to make money the old fashioned way; by creating an environment that encourages companies and entrepreneurs to locate in Illinois and create wealth by building stuff people want. Improve the state economy by building the tax base instead of sucking out the pockets of those who can least afford it.
And when those hopeful gamblers crash and burn, when mortgages or rent can't be paid, when families fail and mom or dad hit the bottle and are living on the street, who'll want the state to step in and take care of them? To fix the problems that a casino created?
Democrats are effing idiots to believe they can fix the state economy through gambling and taxing marijuana. Their vision of the future: Turn Illinois into gambling and drug based Utopia.
Morons.
All 5 locations are shit holes. Gamble and get robbed on your way home !!!!!!!!!!!
LeClaire Courts - easy expressway access and near the airport.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You don't need a casino.
Chicago itself is a fucking gamble.
7/18/2019 12:05:00 AM
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Comment of the day!!!! DING DING DING!!!
The railroad property at Roosevelt and Clark is about the most sensible followed by Michael Reese spot. The rest are pure stupid an ghetto and will be boarded up 3 years after the open.
No one will fly in to visit these shitholes
Convert Sox park.
That team is losing fans every year.
I love it. All South or Westside communities. Besides maybe a couple of hundred full time positions most of which will not com from the neighborhoods, the casinos will do nothing positive for the communities. What it will do is provide easy access to a vice that will quickly siphon away their government handouts. I’m all for it. At least the city county and state will recover some of these funds. Problem is these people will need more subsidies then ever when they can’t buy food or pampers because they blew their government checks at the casino.
Talk about dumb fricken ideas. You want the tourists money people wake up. Navy pier McCormick Place China town. All easily accessible and will draw tourists.
Before anyone gets their shorts tied up here is what almost everyone is failing to talk about. The owners of the casino who is going to build the casino will have the biggest say on where it will go. The sites that Mayor Lightfoot suggested are her beard. She can suggest any number of places but the owners/builders will have the final say. Do you honestly think they will build a casino in the 11th District? The owners of the casino will want to build the casino where they will get the biggest bang for the buck. Where is that? Somewhere near the center of the city> Chicago has a great tourist industry. The owners of the casino will want to tap into this market. Pain and simple, somewhere near the center of the city.
The old McCormak convention site. It is already set up electronically for a casino, is big enough and has good access,
What about the old Leclaire Courts site? That complex aside from the chronic violence, was demolished and removed for a convention center and hotels. But after nearly 10 years of being vacant land still nothing. Buy out the rest of the houses from 44-47 Cicero to Laramie and you have a huge expanse of land to work with, with Midway airport down the street and I55 within throwing distance. 23 ward can finally rid itself of the CVLs and 4CH that occupy the housing over there and contribute to the drugs and violence in the ward. Then, finally Cicero Ave will become revitalized and bring much needed tax revenue back to 60638.
7/18/2019 03:05:00 AM
You nailed it. I agree.
Anywhere on Elston Ave between Fullerton and Chicago,ave. Lots of potential,there. Close to,the expressway and the Chicago,river.
7/18/2019 12:10:00 AM
Pure genius! You can use the expressway to get to the casino and then drive into the river after you lose everything!
We demand that it be built in K-Town at Kostner and Roosevelt.
Is Lori and her people folks reading the blog:
Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot says downtown casino site could still end up in the mix for consideration
https://www.chicagotribune.com/politics/ct-lori-lightfoot-casino-sites-20190718-fakkmn6vz5bo7allmmcpnekzby-story.html
Keep reading Lori we have your prep work all done for you at no cost to the taxpayers!
Gambling in casinos does not create wealth, it only moves it around.
If you want to create wealth you need to build something, grow something, make something, mine something, create something, and then have people buy it. Everything else just moves around the wealth and nothing was created.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
To put a casino anywhere away from down town tourism, conventions, and the business districts is a waste of time, money and resources. Do you really think tourists will leave the down town night life, restaurants and lake front to gamble on the west or south sides. That, in and of itself, is a gamble... with your life.
7/18/2019 08:03:00 AM
Well said, a no brainer. If LL cared about the income and success of a casino it would be downtown. Not on the west or southside
Anonymous Anonymous said...
K-Town Kasino.Link cards accepted.Five star eateries in walking distance-mr.gyros,tasty sub and sharks coming soon.24 hour drug store walk up service.cheap smokes-3 for a dollar untaxed.Tour the nearby Cicero,Illinois Roosevelt Road historic district.
7/18/2019 06:53:00 AM
Almost sounds like a cant miss location!
How about in the basement of the new Obama center?
Put it in both airports.... put in a couple million slots there too. Slots make the most money?how many people travel thru O’Hare? Why risk your life going into the community.
4400 Grenshaw Block Club said...
"We demand that it be built in K-Town at Kostner and Roosevelt."
7/18/2019 02:13:00 PM
...Ohhh shit!
We MUST be getting old.
Upon first viewing, we thought it was the
4400 Grenshaw BOOK club!
"Dafuk? A civic improvement of some sort took hold?"
Thank goodness we blinked a couple of times and saw
it for what it really is before we took a dive
into deep storage and gathered some books to donate.
Well... The "ladies of idyllic leisure" would've
appreciated some fine literary diversion between clients.
No?
"Bring y'all own wine, cheese an' crackers..."
>Grin!<
Build the casino near an already present customer base. Chinatown has huge billboards for all the casinos in Indiana. All Chinese newspapers have half page ads run daily for the casinos in Indiana. All the Indiana casinos offer hourly bus shuttle service from Chinatown to their casinos. Buses are usually full every hour. Follow the money.
The people willing to spend money are all downtown on business, travel, leisure, and site seeing. They’re all in the hotels, restaurants or working. The casino has to be easy to get to. Especially if it’s walking distance or very short drive. Even better if it’s on the lake for the beauty of it. This could be major money maker if done right. If it’s in a poor location it’s a failure. Downtown is the only place. Why can’t they see this???? It’s a no brainer
Is it wrong to think how U gotta imagine the pit bosses needed to watch the pot bosses to watch the dealers and everybody else from the being on the take! Pookey won! He's a mathematical genius! Ha! It's the Chicago way why else tale the job
Supposedly the tourism revenue is sky high in Chicago. So why in the world would anyone consider building a casino anywhere other than downtown??? Tap into all that money. No one will leave downtown to drive far away to a casino. Especially when there are so many other things to do. A downtown casino could bring in astronomical amounts of revenue.
More convenient for the thugs to attack tourists. Load the tourists in buses and deliver them to the casino. It keeps the thugs off the red line.
Not one developer or investor will want it anywhere other than downtown. Only a fool would build it far away from where all the people, action and money is. People are attracted to Chicago because of downtown. If that’s where the people are then that’s where you have to build it. If it’s far away it’s a much easier decision for someone to say, “na, let’s just stay in the hotel tonight or see a show instead.” CONVENIENCE and LOCATION. There’s no better location than downtown Chicago.
Mayor needs to be drug tested for these ideas.
There’s no other location than DOWNTOWN! That’s where the people are spending money and staying in hotels. Tap into that and Chicago will win. I can’t believe any other location is being discussed. It’s so obvious.
Anonymous said...
Before anyone gets their shorts tied up here is what almost everyone is failing to talk about. The owners of the casino who is going to build the casino will have the biggest say on where it will go. The sites that Mayor Lightfoot suggested are her beard. She can suggest any number of places but the owners/builders will have the final say. Do you honestly think they will build a casino in the 11th District? The owners of the casino will want to build the casino where they will get the biggest bang for the buck. Where is that? Somewhere near the center of the city> Chicago has a great tourist industry. The owners of the casino will want to tap into this market. Pain and simple, somewhere near the center of the city.
7/18/2019 12:46:00 PM
The owner of the casino is Chicago stupid, that's why the city is picking the site.
No casino at all: they just bring a flood of corruption and crime. And they victimize those without much money who hope to make a quick buck. The odds at a casino are designed to turn a profit for the casino; it's a losing game. Like lottery tickets, gambling is a hefty tax on those who can't really afford it. Plus, it will destroy whatever neighborhood it's built in.
Very, very bad idea.
She's only pandering to the south and west side aldermen and reverends with these suggestions. The casino will never be built in these locations. She has to appease her voting public by suggesting these as viable spots. It will either be built downtown or at McCormick.
She must be seriously crazy. The customers will be eaten alive by the members of the community and the community will spend their government subsidized income in the casinos. This was not well thought out by the Mayor.
Casino will have a brothel attached once prostitution is legalized in city. Talk about a tourist draw.
How about the old Post Office over the Eisenhower?
"A casino right up the skreet?
Oooooh... JACKPOT!"
Come down people. Leftfoot is given the script to read. The real Rulers will make the final decision. Book it!
The owner of the casino is Chicago stupid, that's why the city is picking the site.
Or...
Perhaps she is saying to the potentional casino operators these are your choices, however shitty they are. She is giving them shitty choices because she doesn't want them at all.
They are not the development boon everyone thinks they are.
McCormick Place East. The building is almost never used and as parking there already and close to highways.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
It might be in Lightfoots best interest to confer with Gov Pritzker who knows a thing or two about business and ask where he'd put it. You know he'd never put a hotel at ANY of these places.
7/18/2019 08:38:00 AM
Trust fund baby. Born a billionaire. Has nothing to do with hotels. However if you are looking for a mansion with no toilets and zero maintenance performed, he can hook you up.
All of you calling for the casino to be built on the site of Leclaire Courts should run for office.
That’s not a compliment.
"...The Canadians own half the buildings in 4..."
I gotta call mooseshit on dat one dere hoser. My people are a lot smarter about throwing away our devalued Canadian dollar away in da lower forty eight. Besides, why settle for Olde English 800 when you can have a Molson? Right Skipper?
26th and California! Best site in the city!
"Casino will have a brothel attached once prostitution is legalized in city. Talk about a tourist draw.
7/18/2019 09:28:00 PM"
A transgender brothel or a normal one? You'd make a lousy Democrat if you cannot parse out those basic issues ahead of time...
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Before anyone gets their shorts tied up here is what almost everyone is failing to talk about. The owners of the casino who is going to build the casino will have the biggest say on where it will go. The sites that Mayor Lightfoot suggested are her beard. She can suggest any number of places but the owners/builders will have the final say. Do you honestly think they will build a casino in the 11th District? The owners of the casino will want to build the casino where they will get the biggest bang for the buck. Where is that? Somewhere near the center of the city> Chicago has a great tourist industry. The owners of the casino will want to tap into this market. Pain and simple, somewhere near the center of the city.
7/18/2019 12:46:00 PM
The owner of the casino is Chicago stupid, that's why the city is picking the site.
7/18/2019 07:05:00 PM
The city will not own the casino. If you can read, try reading the bill.
Leclaire courts would be second choice
Michael Reese property is the best location, it will allow downtown ,McCormick place visitors to visit , and spend dollars .
Casino hotels at leclaire courts would attract travelers going to and from Midway airport a place to stay and gamble .
2 great spots in 012:
The old Fisk plant south of Cermak off Throop or Roosevelt/15th St - Ashland/Loomis
Old Meigs Field....with offsite parking, with armed shuttle guards and boat ferry, in the summer from navy pier and the river...Or Micheal Reese with a built access road straight to LSD and 55.....both sites easy to defend...anywhere else other that downtown or the chicago river or McCormick will be a nightmare....crime and robberies for sure!...its gotta be on the water and its gotta be grand!
LL those eyes has got to see through the BS
cut aldercrooks , cut exempts on CPD , CFD
want to clean house in CFD
8 hour shifts , do a study , many injured between 2200-0600 hrs when firemen are woke up , answering calls half asleep .
Put it on Reese and Pershing.
7/18/2019 11:06:00 AM
Sure, if the intersection of Reese and Pershing existed. WTF?
Goose Island. Perfect location.
Accessible via Chicago Ave, Division St, North Ave, Ashland Ave, Halsted St.
Kennedy X-ray, Water Taxi’s
Michael Reese site makes sense. Even if Sophia “I’m friends with the Obamas “ King doesn’t want it there. Wonder why? Probably because Rahm, the real mayor, wants it somewhere else. Kings husband is a wannabe ethically challenged lobbyist who already got off of one violation because Steve Berlin and Conlon let him off on Rahm’s orders. King must be exposed for what she is, a Preckwinkle phony and Rahm ass kisser. She is turning the south loop into a ghetto with no police protection because her and Pigott have sent police to 11.
Anonymous said...
Goose Island. Perfect location.
Accessible via Chicago Ave, Division St, North Ave, Ashland Ave, Halsted St.
Kennedy X-ray, Water Taxi’s
7/20/2019 07:51:00 AM
Hmmmmm...
For ingress and egress, reconstruct Ogden Ave and configure
it into a traffic "loop" around the casino complex...
Easy access from I-290
Easy access from I-90/94
No sweat from I-294/I-355
I-55 can jump off on any
major north/south street and pick up Ogden?
Pity about Joliet Road though...
Goose Island?
Which Chicago political/corporate
lick-hitter has their thumb on that parcel?
The site of the Finkle Steel Company is perfect for a casino
All those sites look fine. Keep the lowlifes away from downtown lakeshore. We will tie this up in court for years if they try to put it anywhere from loop to lakeview and east of 94.
"Finkle Steel Company is perfect for a casino "
Are you kidding? These casinos will attrack bangers and crooks. No one in their right mind wants to live near one. Keep it on the southside.
The site of the Finkle Steel Company is perfect for a casino
7/20/2019 06:00:00 PM
14710 Cypress North Houston Rd -- Agreed.
Once an Intelligent Man, but Not No Moe Says:
The best lace for a Chicago Casino is in Milwaukee...
The Brach's Candy site in Austin, with transit and proximity to Oak Park is a winner!!
For example, would you apparently win tons of cash while playing poker,
and then go and blow it all lower than a few minutes later on the slots, or
would you have the ability to perform really well at the blackjack tables and then go and
lose your entire winnings playing poker. "The learning curve with this strategy specialty doesn't need to look at years, just months. Betting systems are typically applicable to even money bets - red, black, even numbers, odd numbers, 1-18, and 19-36 - and zero isn't in a of these wagers.
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