School Cop Training (UPDATES)
We don't know where to even begin quoting this article.
Go read the link above and comment below.
The bullshit is deep and the condescension is heavy.
UPDATE: As some readers/commenters are pointing out, the school officers are being placed into an environment where, many times, the kids have already been taught to hate the police.
Not only that (and we've written about it) there's a curriculum in place that teaches distrust and promotes hatred of the police in schools based on nothing but innuendo, fiction and lies.
And finally, the Chicago Teachers Union which, though not all of them, actively promotes a "fuck the police" attitude as demonstrated at many of their public appearances and chanted from the podium by their speakers.
UPDATE: Anyone know if the students and teachers are being taught to (A) obey the law or (B) respect the law or (C) respect the police?
Go read the link above and comment below.
The bullshit is deep and the condescension is heavy.
UPDATE: As some readers/commenters are pointing out, the school officers are being placed into an environment where, many times, the kids have already been taught to hate the police.
Not only that (and we've written about it) there's a curriculum in place that teaches distrust and promotes hatred of the police in schools based on nothing but innuendo, fiction and lies.
And finally, the Chicago Teachers Union which, though not all of them, actively promotes a "fuck the police" attitude as demonstrated at many of their public appearances and chanted from the podium by their speakers.
UPDATE: Anyone know if the students and teachers are being taught to (A) obey the law or (B) respect the law or (C) respect the police?
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
91 Comments:
More out of state trainers! Why can’t our people come up with the training. I love the line that they want the brightest, like it’s above us all.
Last one out turn out the lights.
"the course would cover de-escalation techniques using real-world examples"
My example: BOOM. You need a doctor?
You volunteer for a spot that you think would make the final years of your police career easy.
How in the hell you thought that going to work security in 21st century chicago public schools would somehow be like 1950's policing?
These CPS students are taught to distrust the police, to scream racism every time they are caught and told that the CPD hates people of color so every law enforcement reaction to their actions is racist no matter the color of the police officer.
It's the times.
Where to begin is to not even start.
The times isn't even worth using for puppy training anymore.
It's already saturated with poop.
The officers were dragged by a female 4 four corner hustler down the stairs and then bit one of them as the other broke a knee cap.This article makes street police not "special" because we don't coach drug dealers or shooters on the streets.
I was in gangs worked all over the city before retiring. I would rather do tours in any district in the city than having to go into a CPS high school and deal with those kids and their teachers.
“This SRO job is not for the weak,” Don Bridges, a NASRO trainer and a police officer with Baltimore County Public Schools, told the trainees. “It’s for the best and the brightest.”
Hahaha! They obviously have no understanding of how the Chicago Polive Department works then...
0570 is a good man
Arguing with a fool proves there are two
How many 1-Star hotels in Chicago?
On the job first 12 years in Englewood, last 20 + in the schools (CPS). I have had much training. But never a title. Much discussion over the years over school resource officer title. I did much more work on a daily basis as a PO assigned than a youth officer with little no training of benefit or pay. Time for transparency . Will this be a assignment ,and where is FOP on this? Or a daily patronage assignment ? And what or who will govern and enforce the school administrators to do there part the proper way?
Wrigleyville Cam blacked out with electrical tape.
Fuck these students. Let them die on electric scooters.
Well there was not one word taken out of context, a huge furry mic in your face you had to know that would be the take from the day. I don’t know if this officer wants to police in the schools anymore , but by the time this training over ,I don’t think that’ll be a option.
As a teacher in the western suburbs, I make it point to get to know my SROs. The middle name Resource is what the relationship is intended to.be, and I am grateful for your efforts and work and support.
I didn’t t waste the officer’s time with Johnny isn’t coming to class on time if at all. Or when a kid gives me some disrespectful attitude. I handle that shit. However, in partnership, we have hopefully set a few kids to change their ways for the better.
The part that is scary is this gem: “Chicago police do not currently have any policy directives covering the role of school officers.”
You’re damned if you do, damned if you don’t. Gotta get that fixed.
So, thanks officer for your service! Not all of us hate you.
No Agreement with CPS?
Why the f-bomb are any CPD Officers assigned to schools if they don't have an agreement with CPS?
Why?
Never worked in a school and wouldn't want to, but I never knew there was a written agreement to do so. Any way to see a copy?
Why? Most of the teachers hate the police. Why cause friction?
Let them police j themselves.
Wanna do good and change the world and get paid
doing it? Simple. J-F-K.
Instead of training cops to be pseudo-psychologists,
let's give the psychologists police and military training,
then there will be no second guessing any decisions.
Surely (Shirley) there's got to be some buff, ripped
psycho-babble idiots who would take the job at triple
the pay. Leave the problem inside their own profession.
Don't be like Dangerfield. Don't take the bait. Don't go
"Back To School." It's a fucking killing ground worse than
Vietnam. And you know how that turned out.
Before Mo was a school expert he was a builder.
Of sand castles. Great foundations. He went bankrupt.
Let's bring in Al Bundy, Homer Simpson, Henry Kissinger,
and Alan Greenspan. Great minds think alike.
If you think that's bad take a ride to state rep Fran Hurley's office and gander at the racist cop hating poster in her window.
Ask yourself, does Mo know Mo Better than you?
Condescension? Where?
B.S.
Who the fuck made Mo "God"?
He's a lazy fuck with a big paycheck who works M-F
(maybe) and sleeps in his own bed every night.
Feeling sorry yet? This asshole is an expert on his
own 401(k) plan and 6 weeks of vacation, plus holidays.
Remember holidays? NO fucking shootings on holidays!
And you're actually gonna get on your Stingray bike, ride
home, and come back with your shine box for this asshole?
I didn't come on the job to work in the schools. I dont have 40 hours a week to do this. They leave that out. Who gets up in the morning and wants this shit?
That is incredible it says in the article the mayor was going to pull the police out of the schools why didn’t she do that another thing she said she would do and again she failed. Then you read the article you can clearly see if you are stupid enough to be working in a school as a police officer you are totally out of your mind you are a liability, you must have money to lose a career that you do not like to do this job everything is against the police you’re better off work in the streets why bother?
Mo got a doctor excuse for no SRO duty.
Too big of a center mass, too slow, doesn't work well with
others, melts under pressure. Doctor said an M&M would
hold up better.
You can bet Mo is despised in every department he's had
contact with, only you haven't heard about it yet. He's
like the lying military recruiters who told the kids in the 60s
they would be fighting to stop the spread of Communism
in Southeast Asia. Yeah right. Fuck you, Mo.
Want the do nothing spot? Get trained then. Additionally, send those school officers to CIT instead of bombing my email with the bullshit CIT invitation. I ain’t going.
This should have told you (in addition to your gut)
that this line of reasoning was flawed: we've got
a problem in the schools, and CPD, you're the answer.
Thank goodness they brought in people from LA and Baltimore to show us how it’s done.
With no SRO policy and no school agreement in place , what would you expect to happen? Lack of leadership and accountability by your department. That is the fault of your top command.
You can have that job, I'm not interested.
Is the mission for cops in the schools even defined properly? It seems that they're there in order to keep order with the students, not to protect the students from outside threats. So why use kid gloves with a person that crosses the line from being a student to being a criminal while in the school? If that kid exhibited the same behavior while out in public, would they be dealt with any differently by police?
Couldn’t continue reading after they failed to mention the heifer bit the coppers amongst other physical attacks
The school unit is for the best and brightest?
Yeah ok, Be interactive more with the students outside of being a cop, like a coach or after school activities. That's the parents job to be interactive with the child/student for after school activities. We have our own children to look over and try to get to their after school activities after our day of work is complete being a COP.
What a joke!! In 020 during the summer all the school units still get the weekend off Even though they're working beat cars while the school is closedinstead of helping out the rest of us so we can have a day off on the weekend. Somebody needs to tell these snowflake principals that we're not there to be there mommy and daddy and tell him they have to go to school and eat their green beans
Chicago public high schools are Gladiator training grounds.any P.O.that volunteers for a school post is bat shit crazy.mentals,gangs, druggies,preggies,crazy parent,socialist staff,LSC infiltrated by thief’s,students on house arrest, probation or parole,19 year old freshmen etc.
Why would anyone want to be a school officer in cps. Your better off in 007
Pull out the cops. Let Windbreaker CPS Security handle it.
You need to have your head examined if you willingly work in a CPS School next to these liberal pieces of shit . Seriously and please don’t say it’s for the kids ....
Cradle til grave they need to be babysat.
YET they line up to work that GIG.
WE need to think clearly when doing work in the schools.
The teacher think you are to aggressive until their cell phone is stolen out of their desk.
Teacher want strip searches then.
Principal hide rapes and abuse for fear of being dumped from school.
Janitors stealing lap tops and then blaming student.
The laptops mysteriously are never properly secured and the principal never even suffer for the lapse in losing 10k worth of tax payer paid hardware.
These kids are taught to reject and hate ANY type of authority figure.
The old saying that, those that can’t do anything, teach. Those that can’t teach, teach gym! You can always tell who the teachers are, but you can’t tell them anything!
FOP should push to make School Resource Officer a slot like FTO.
Application
Test
Training program
D-2 pay
Make it real. See how many apply.
These kids aren't kid size half the time either. Don't know why I always hear the
"poor" excuse, they seem to be eating well...
And what about the goof on the far right side of the picture. You know that you have reporters in the room monitoring the class and taking pictures. Take off you cover nad look like a police officer. And shame on the goofs running the class for not saying something to him at the onset. No wonder people think we are a bunch of buffons. We can't even try to look professional.
" “I do believe it’s a special type of officer who should be in the schools and the training is definitely a major part of that.” "
More special officers coming to a school near you...
“You have the kids that are homeless, the kids that are hungry, the kids that have mental problems — that are diagnosed and undiagnosed,”
THANKS DEMOCRATS! Used to be: Kids and a mom and dad (female and male) at home and the parents cared about the well being of the kiddos. Welfare state and Sanctuary City policy get in the way of how matters used to be?
Why the f-bomb are any CPD Officers assigned to schools if they don't have an agreement with CPS?
Why?
7/16/2019 04:55:00 AM
because when the powers that be want something in this town they get it. No thinking, training or planning needed. But, to fully realize the extent of craziness in the department and city, just grasp the fact that the CPD had to being in instructors from Baltimore, probably one of the most screwed up cities in America. Take the cops out of the schools and hire more civilian guards. The hell with the CPS and their craziness.
I remember when I was in school in the 60's we had Office Friendly coloring books and were visited by Officers whom we respected. Sadly, I doubt anything like this exists today. The teachers have it out for the Police as much as the gangbangers and criminals.
Move officers out of schools....period. CPS have their own security, let them call 911 when arrest is needed.
It is just not in the schools. They teach it in the churches too. Some even hand out business type cards with the numbers for COPA and legal services, with instructions on how to make a complaint. Personally I feel that damage has been done and it's is not going to change anytime soon. 1st & the 16th baby, the rest is all Bull Shit.
Bringing in a Baltimore school cop is like bringing in someone from New Orleans to teach government ethics or someone from Seattle to clean up homelessness.
The problems with the schools are a result of politics, and a complete lack of maternal responsibility on the part of the 'parent', or baby momma. No amount of school police will change that, especially with the current climate of media and ghetto lottery entitlement.
Good luck to all those kiddie cops. Seems a waste of time, money and energy though
I just...I can't imagine why anyone in the world would sign up to serve as a police officer in a school. Has to be the most thankless job in existence.
According to Wikipedia, the job didn't even exist before the second half of the 20th century. Shows how far things have fallen from...the rest of recorded history.
I couldn’t finish reading that BS the officers working these schools are being set up for failure. I still support our officers in the schools they are better men and women then I am. But these clown trainers are making a buck and unfortunately not provide anything other than BS to our guys. DEESCALATION hahahaha that’s when I knew it was BS.
Any police officer that works in the school are touched in the head and are afraid of the street. You all get what you deserve. Cps is not our friend.
No chance Footloose LightLoafer is going to pull out Police from CPS.
More waste of manpower.
They brought in experts from across the country.
Any clue to what they’re preaching ?
Tolerance, acceptance, peace circling cafe stuff?
One freaked out mental and all that training goes out the window and CPD -CPS wash their hands while the PO hopes to retain his employment after a lengthy, expensive retainer.
Somewhere in the lesson plan they forgot to include CPS mandatory parental training.
.............
“Let's bring in Al Bundy, Homer Simpson, Henry Kissinger and Alan Greenspan. Great minds think alike.” (7/16/2019 05:29:00 AM)
– I think a Bernie Mack school of discipline would be worthwhile too.
Ever notice that as much as "the community" (usually the worst 5% that bring zero to the table) always say the police need more training, be it in the academy or in situations such as this, the article almost always ends with "community groups say the money can be spent elsewhere?" Ghetto lottery must be losing steam
Respect!?
That’s crazy talk.
Lots of “students” and lots of “teachers” hate the police.
Talk about having the deck stacked against you right off the bat.
Mo got to go
In response to your update SCC?
"Tha' Communerty," CPS and CTU say:
"Fukyawl..."
The onus of "respect" falls wholly upon
The Police.
Deliberately and by intentional design...
It's all part and parcel of:
"Reform and Accountability."
"Community Justice."
"Making Right of Past Injustices and RACISM by The Police."
"It's OUR TURN to finally run thangs NOW!"
You know...
The great collective thirst of "Tha' Communerty"
for their long awaited revenge against society and
The Police for THEIR collective failure to launch.
Who will be the first Copper loudly lynched from THIS
tree for political expediency and "optics?"
Haters gonna hate
Fran is one of them
CPS idea of handling a problem is to call the police and let them do their (CPS) job for them.
How could any police officer even work inside a public school? If they don't like or want you there, what are you doing?? And dont give me the bullshit about weekends off, it fits my schedule, you have to have some dignity and respect for yourself. let the liberal bitches handle there own mess.
CPS is the stink bomb, the skunking.
No way to escape the stench.
And no way to keep the skunks from spraying.
Ya might as well drop trouser and present for penetration.
The intergovernmental agreement between CPS and CPD was not renewed when it expired and was a contract as to what CPS requested (#P.O. s) assigned and paid for. It has continued on unfunded by CPD. Can anyone say liability... And no personal injury or work comp. if you are injured in this assignment only the medical.
"Anyone know if the students and teachers are being taught to (A) obey the law or (B) respect the law or (C) respect the police?"
If so, call Ripley.
I can be a school officer
Example ::
Teacher: Officer, this student is not behaving
Me: O-k, Just call his/her parents (hahahahaha) ooops I mean call his mommy.
There, situation handled
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The intergovernmental agreement between CPS and CPD was not renewed when it expired and was a contract as to what CPS requested (#P.O. s) assigned and paid for. It has continued on unfunded by CPD. Can anyone say liability... And no personal injury or work comp. if you are injured in this assignment only the medical.
7/16/2019 02:58:00 PM
If you are assigned to a school during your tour of duty, you have all the rights and benefits the same as if you worked a beat car
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How could any police officer even work inside a public school? If they don't like or want you there, what are you doing?? And dont give me the bullshit about weekends off, it fits my schedule, you have to have some dignity and respect for yourself. let the liberal bitches handle there own mess.
7/16/2019 02:26:00 PM
It’s a clouted spot. Po’s are begging for the spots
44: Years Biden spent in Washington D.C.
In a meritocracy, he figures he's next in line.
I'm due, baby. I done paid my dues!
Amtrack Joey Plugs, former V.P.
Pull CPD out of CPS immediately , CPS has a budget , let them pay for private security .
If assigned to a school , stand outside , write every vehicle tickets that do not display a city sticker , both license plates , have equipment violations .
Do your job .
i was in 14 in the 90 s . Lucky our schools were 1st - 8th. Still had many calls on my beat having to deal with crazy parents and just as crazy Principle. Parents that don t have the time to get Johnny his meds so the kid keeps stabbing the students with his pencil. WAs by Hirsh school 1 day and the parents were throwing F Bombs while starting fights..all in front of the kids. Glad i never worked in a school.
From 2017-present, Google matches show the reinstatement of Officer Friendly in Chicago and elsewhere.
Why work in the schools for weekends off. The principals and teachers don't want the monsters arrested. It will cost the schools money. Let CPS hire security guards to police those animals.
Fire in the hole!
We all can't be like the White House and have our own
24/7 fire truck and crew.
Is society going to be manned by cops in supermarkets,
churches, schools. There's not enough people to go around!
Simple...let the savages fight each other in the schools and the teachers who make more than us break up the fights.
There's a sucker born every minute
P.T. Barnum
As a school officer your school is your beat. Just as you wouldn’t let a citizen tell you where to be, or who to arrest the school is the same. Problem has always been the officers try to do their job, but when a principal calls to complain that the officer isn’t conforming to their crazy demands, the supervisors cave..... officers are not school employees. The principal cannot assign them to posts. They should never be where the students expect them to be.
Wasn't Sgt Knezevich one of the merits SCC mentioned recently who jumped 1000 plus people on the list? He just got merit Sgt and he's already boss to a bunch of school officers? I want his clout. For what it's worth, I've heard nothing bad about him from guys that currently work with him, and used to work with him.
It’s not my job to fill jail-bird or flight-bird daddy slot. It’s not my job to fill every-week-night-block-party-mommy either. Teacher wants service tell them it’s not a police matter because some student told you to fuck off. Deal with it and your at best 60% graduation rate yourself.
New merit Sgt K, recently assigned to schools, obviously deserves mon to fri gig on second watch.
Wait, I thought the Community wanted us out of the schools? Come on, which is it? I'm confused.
O.M.G. Where do I start??? As a CPS teacher and supporter of police officers, let me set this argument straight. NO ONE from CTU said "Fuck the Police"... that was someone named Paige May who taught at a private school. Secondly, that was NOT a CTU event. It was a city union workers event. Third, as a teacher of that particular Civics curriculum, I will present the Jon Burge case because it happened! However, I will invite the police officers stationed at my school to come to my class and have a "real talk" session with the kids about the things they've seen and have to deal with. They also spend class time teaching the students the best way to interact with police officers during a traffic stop or arrest by giving the students their POV. I give as much "pro-police" time as "anti-police" time...probably more if you want to know the truth. Hopefully one day, SCC will give some of us teachers the benefit of the doubt instead of shitting on us like everyone in this city does. Whether you like it or not, we are all brothers and sisters in the same struggle.
How about lying Lightfoot and evev city aldercreature take the first shift of security at the schools so they can show how it’s done. They should perform for minimum of two weeks to get an idea of the needs. The illustrate to everybody else how it’s done..go ahead and take big Ed with you so he can take notes and video.
Anonymous said...
"Wait, I thought the Community wanted us out of the schools?
Come on, which is it? I'm confused."
7/17/2019 09:08:00 AM
Heh...
If the CPD "baby sitters" are made to go away,
CTU will be left all by their lonesome in those
CPS/"Communerty" indoctrination centers/zoos/crematoriums
as they go up in flames at the hands of the adult-sized,
3x strong as any man, "children" who attend these wretched
places.
CTU adds "value" to the inner party apparatus,
Policemen apparently do not...
nonymous said...
44: Years Biden spent in Washington D.C.
In a meritocracy, he figures he's next in line.
I'm due, baby. I done paid my dues!
Amtrack Joey Plugs, former V.P.
7/16/2019 06:59:00 PM\\
it seems that " the smart money" is predicting a democratic ticket of Harris/Warren.
Let's cut the bullshit....the police can't order the CPS security around...they work for CPS (unless an emergency in which case they will probably bail out with the students) but they really work for the principal..... the principal was anti-police (which we had both pro and then anti) and we were unwanted until shit hit the fan (which could have been avoided if the principal/staff communicated with us )or they wanted a certain student out....Teachers, counselors and staff loved to scream for the police, but we decided to make them do their jobs cause the P was so anti police and very liberal ...some teachers were so afraid to come to the police cause they knew he (P) would be out for revenge.....We were CIT trained and used to have yearly training but it stopped.. It won't work if everyone was not on the same page so the training needs to include CPS....Also the P was a TYRANT towards his staff and it burned him up that he couldn't control us too!...the little jags would also film police/fire events while the security just watched so you had to be careful...So much to say sorry for the rant! it was good for my family for awhile but with the last P so anti police im glad im gone! (parents and teachers were happy we were there....it was the P who wanted us gone)
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