Please Be True
The one time we might actually attend this bullshit:
- Anyone hear the latest from comstat, that officers are going to start being called down to the meetings? Heard that officers that aren’t doing anything out there (no activity) are going to get officially notified to report to the comstat meeting and explain why they are doing nothing. Should get very interesting.
We've got names and dates for dozens of CompStat attendees and their "statistics" over the course of their careers. We'd love to compare and ask what gives them the right to question our numbers when theirs are so poor by comparison. Perhaps if they came out and showed us how it was done, we too could aspire to mirror their careers?
(yes, we know it's probably BS. No way in Hell they demand numbers - no quotas, remember?)
(yes, we know it's probably BS. No way in Hell they demand numbers - no quotas, remember?)
Labels: dumb ideas
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
56 Comments:
I hope I’m called down there. Hour each way with traffic, sit at the meeting and shrug for a bit, gas, lunch, car wash, slowly roll back to work. Not a bad day.
Maybe 10 years ago all the tact sergeants were called down for a meeting with chief of patrol about declining arrest numbers. Each district went at different times. It was non confrontational.
If true they will only call down the non-connected. Any cop that’s friends with someone important will never be touched. It’s the Chicago way. Headquarters will now have to create a team that first makes sure none of the connected people get yelled at.
Lemmer. That asshat actually brags about his DOPW pinches when he first got on and how the judges would bang the offenders with a $30 fine knowing it was his pinch and therefore legit. Lemmer you are a bonehead!
Lol!
Pull up the complementary histories of these
gump-stat merit/clouted grand inquisitors to be...
Every last one of these gold star anal-clowns
stole MULTIPLE UNDESERVED PROMOTIONS!
This is one of Larri Lightloafer's staffers
or a tragi-comedic, quasi Count Chocula dentition
having doofus like Lemmer who had reportedly been
shit-talking about "how those guys are getting away
with generating no activity."
He's already on blast for feeding Frooty-Poot Groot
that "FOP told those guys to lay down on Memorial Day"
bullshit.
Treachery and cowardice...
When the gump-stat monster isn't being fed,
it will swap ends and eat it's masters ass-first.
>CLOMP! CLOMP! CLOMP!<
"GRRAAARRRHHH!"
>SNATCH! CHOMP!<
"AAAAIIEE! MY TUSHIE!"
Calling Blueshirts down to Compstat...
>Pffft!<
These stupid m/fers are driving Policemen
deeper and deeper into self-preservation mode
and they're too fucking obtuse to understand why
it's happening.
We'll be proactive when we see the clouted gold star
exempts hanging by stretched necks from the same knotty
pine of "Community Justice" the public wishes to see
more Policemen twisting in the wind from.
It'll do the Blueshirt foot soldiers much good to see these
incompetent "generals" laid out like a bunch of dumb donkeys
with their hooves sticking in the air on battlefield Chicago.
...Of course they hate and revile The Policeman.
It's not like any sizeable number of them ever
were any kind of a Policeman anyway.
Buncha busters...
As for THE Police?
Police Like You Have No Friends.
Look.
Point & Laugh.
Leave.
Well, they obviously never heard of Sir Robert Peel's principles of modern policing, especially the one that says that "the test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, and not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with them."
If officers are really making a difference numbers should go down.
What do you mean "no activity". I've done 3 twitter posts!
Call me down. Please. I have an accounting of all of my time on the street. Travel time, community interaction, Order research, ability to solve problems without having to generate any reports which will ultimately be used to discipline me. FOP rep will need to be present at every compstat meeting. Why aren't they already there?
1) quotas are illegal in Illinois.
2) I hope they call in all of 35th st, unit & district office staff that has been hiding for years
3) not for get the academy staff
4) all I’m required to do is answer my jobs and back each other up.
If this was a couple years ago, you’d have GMac taking it personally and inviting the officer to take it outside with him.
I wish they would call me down there ! 21 years on this job
and they have 2 year wonders in the camera room. That be
be a bid position (hello union). Early in my career having time
on the job meant something and respect was given. And don’t
get me started on connected people on foot routes. Work the
nonsense out in the streets and then you can hide in the camera
room. No roll call, improper uniforms , leaving early and the
list goes on. I’m just saying !
It’s funny- any member of the department USED to be able to look up any other department members arrest activity.
Of course not everyone was computer savvy enough to have known how to navigate the system, but I remember printing out newly made bosses activity and distributing it to the watch.
I guess that was an early version of “transparency” that wasn’t too well liked from above, and eventually the department took that access away.
After all, how can a career do-nothing to get made a boss and stand up there and “command/demand respect” from the rank-and-file- street cops if the troops in the field know they’ve never done anything?
It’s much easier to just stand up there and try to demand respect if your subordinates don’t know what the boss’s history is about.
And the beat goes on.....
"The reason my numbers are X is because you have not told me what number they have to be. What number of arrests do I have to get in order to not get called down here? Please speak into this pen and start with your name, rank, and social security number."
Don't doubt it, the inspectors now report to Lemmer. Guess Lott wasn't doing a lot.
Remember the first rule of the Command staff is,do as I say not as I do. Just because they do nothing doesn't mean you can do nothing. There will be a couple of symbolic firing of fetal cops to get you all bringing numbers and that will be that.
It could add a little zest to the poopshow.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
SCC,
Wouldn’t surprise me. The following is from an email regarding Preventative Maintenance (PM) of Department Vehicles. If past due PM is reviewable at Compstat, why not activity. Oh, and the Mayor’s Office wants to know immediately too. I say the Mayor should worry about infrastructure, violence and pensions and not whether I got G&O in a timely manner.
6. Past due PM is now subject to review at Comp Stat.
7. Effective immediately, a past due Preventative Maintenance report is being sent to the Mayor's Office per her request. This will be done on a weekly basis going forward. Information on this report will include date of request, car number, unit of assignment, last date of PM and last date of fueling.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I wish they would call me down there ! 21 years on this job
and they have 2 year wonders in the camera room. That be
be a bid position (hello union). Early in my career having time
on the job meant something and respect was given. And don’t
get me started on connected people on foot routes. Work the
nonsense out in the streets and then you can hide in the camera
room. No roll call, improper uniforms , leaving early and the
list goes on. I’m just saying !
7/10/2019 01:33:00 AM
It will never be a bid position. The bosses want people in those rooms that are capable of operating all of the equipment, and can perform basic computer functions. Some people cant even copy and paste or create a new folder. They have no reason to be in a room full of computers. But I agree, you should have at least 5 years on the job to be in one of those rooms, not fresh off your ppo status, a few of those years on the street should be midnights in some ghetto district.
If you are answering your job, coding it, arresting people on signed complaints, then you are doing your job and that is your activity. That is what is required of officers in patrol. Anything more is just extra activity. If they complain about no activity when you are doing what you are required to do then they should have it on paper and give us a quote. Let's see how that plays out.
They won't fire anyone over activity, no rule or go has been violated. They can go promote more cronies & bed wenches! This would be nothing but a show & there are po's who would call them on this bullshit
Not true. Everyone calm down and keep doing nothing.
Lemmer just keeping goofier and goofier
How about bringing up the commanders and looking at their history, see what stellar activity they had. I hear commander bangles was always thirsty and has huge arrest numbers, like all the exempts made by Ed "Its our time" Johnson. Lead by example right. I call BS, you can't call someone to the carpet in front of a group of exempts who did nothing their entire careers. Look up Babs Pillow West, it's funny that she did absolutely nothing as a PO.
not a cop. see a great opportunity to break it off in their motherfucking ass. inexpensive to obtain and upload to youtube.
they wanted cameras, you give them cameras. quotas? what quotas?
I knew one silly asshole who would go in on every pinch he could just to stay down for 4 hours to "help" by doing the prisoners inventory. That way he could both dog it and get his name on the paper.
“Shit rolls downhill until you stop it at the bottom, PUKE”. DI, Fort Leonard Wood 1967.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Don't doubt it, the inspectors now report to Lemmer. Guess Lott wasn't doing a lot.
7/10/2019 04:22:00 AM
Anyone know why 2 of them were walking around 26th street Monday? Be careful! they are prowling don't get caught off base in anything simple as that!
IF this happens file a grievance that you are being disciplined without representation and would like to have an FOP lawyer with you. Refuse to go unless ordered to do so. If you go refuse to answer questions unless ordered to do so. Then sue he shit out of the city and department because of the stress and pressure they are putting you under.
Lemmer again? Everywhere he goes; doesn't the dept see this? Launch this character now, before the entire ship sinks!!!
Special ed said we can't arrest our way out. That means no arrests and more fixed posts, more special attentions, spot light crap, focused deterrence crap, post shootin crap, positive communerty crap and dancing clown caps cop, shall I continue?
“After all, how can a career do-nothing to get made a boss and stand up there and “command/demand respect” from the rank-and-file- street cops if the troops in the field know they’ve never done anything?
It’s much easier to just stand up there and try to demand respect if your subordinates don’t know what the boss’s history is about.
And the beat goes on.....”
7/10/2019 03:27:00 AM
Chief of Detectives Staples, I would love to see her vast experience with box 1-2 arrests. Not the paper she jumped on, but those arrests she effected and then processed and then testified to. You know...something resembling real police work.
While you raise valid points SCC I think the current “leadership”,and I use that term very, very loosely, might just be dumb and ignorant enough to try some nonsense like this.
Mr. Compstat:
I’ve been inflicted by fetal-itis which is recognized and covered by the ADA.
It’s not fatal but it almost always persists until retirement.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Lemmer. That asshat actually brags about his DOPW pinches when he first got on and how the judges would bang the offenders with a $30 fine knowing it was his pinch and therefore legit. Lemmer you are a bonehead!
Ask that asswipe Lemmer about his public fornication arrest when he thought he was a young stud way back when he was wet behind the ears in 009.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I wish they would call me down there ! 21 years on this job
and they have 2 year wonders in the camera room. That be
be a bid position (hello union). Early in my career having time
on the job meant something and respect was given. And don’t
get me started on connected people on foot routes. Work the
nonsense out in the streets and then you can hide in the camera
room. No roll call, improper uniforms , leaving early and the
list goes on. I’m just saying !
Unfortunately it will only get worse. There are many PPO’s that will tell you they didn’t come on the job to be the police or work the streets. It was for the pay and benefits and have no intention of working the streets but will be inside before 2 years. The sad part is the bosses go along with it used to be the bosses would throw you out of the office if you came in asking for an inside spot with 2 years on. Not anymore
Could the department take away your step increase as a punitive measure for a negative review?
Dear compstat. In recent past the CPD has had a mission. Years ago it was gangs, guns and drugs. Then it went to an extreme broken windows theory of anyone that moves goes to jail. Then it moved into anyone that moves in “level, 1,2 and 3” DOC box went to jail. Then it moved into GMAC where he wanted Quality vs Quantity which then turned back into broken windows when crime went up then went to a mixture of quality and broken windows and “hands on the wall”.. it got goofy for a while and confusing what he wanted but it was still a defined mission. Then we got special ED who came in and publically said “we aren’t going to arrest ourselves out of this problem”. We stopped doing broken windows and quality of life arrests. We went to only targeting the “right” people and focus on “bridging the gap” and “community policing” with limiting arresting people. What the hell does any of that mean??? We won’t arrest ourselves out of this problem, be good to the community, bridge the gap but at every compstat it’s asking “where are the numbers???” There is no mission and no leadership. If you want crime to go down then go back to broken windows. If you can arrest a gang member for drinking, pissing, gang loitering, obstructing traffic, being in parks after hours etc instead of mandatory ANOV and it’s actually supported by the brass as our mission then crime will go back down.. especially downtown with the obstruction of traffic charge. There is also a disorderly conduct charge for gang members we CAN USE! Nobody really know this, but it was approved for use again where the officer can be the victim on one certain disorderly charge. This was sent out from the city law department itself in a department bulletin about two years ago. The problem is this is now discouraged every step of the way from the desk Sgt, Watch Lt, captains and commanders because we have NO CLUE what our command staff wants! They would rather do dance parties and basketball games with 11 year olds that don’t address the actual gang problems in our city.. the dope boys are not going to any of your stupid community evens. In fact, when you are having your community events the thugs are still selling dope, robbing and shooting people. But hey, you get to put some stupid 2 year millennial suburbanite be the change coppers picture on Twitter and Facebook and claim how in touch we are with the community on your blatant social media propaganda campaign. You show house mouses on the street on the 4th weekend out taking pics with large groups of the community... hey guess what... the PO from media affairs taking a picture with all the community members “bridging the gap” in 007 on the fourth?? Yep, that was just his family at a family BBQ. The same exact thing with the Hispanic officer from news affairs taking pictures with the “community” in 008 on the fourth, that was also his family. It’s all fake, misleading and false propaganda. We are police officers. In our specific job description it says to enforce laws, make arrests and ensure the safety of the community. We are now advised to do none of those. Take away one of the above three things and you can’t do the others. Take away the arrest part and the other two are gone. No leadership and no mission causes the troops to wander around aimlessly. We have a specific job.. do it and stop trying to turn us into community ambassadors and social workers. We are neither and the history of policing and the specific job requirements which are written on paper say so.. give us a leader with a plan and give us something to do.
26 Yrs 58 Yrs old. Yeah sure ill do a lot. HAHAAHHAHAAHAHAHAHHAHA
Anonymous said...
I wish they would call me down there ! 21 years on this job
and they have 2 year wonders in the camera room. That be
be a bid position (hello union). Early in my career having time
on the job meant something and respect was given. And don’t
get me started on connected people on foot routes. Work the
nonsense out in the streets and then you can hide in the camera
room. No roll call, improper uniforms , leaving early and the
list goes on. I’m just saying !
7/10/2019 01:33:00 AM
With 21yrs, you’d think you’d know that every job isn’t about seniority!
CAPS, tact, commanders & watch secretary’s etc always have been and always will be.
I recently retired with 33yrs on & some of the officers that felt seniority should’ve been used are complete morons! If I was a boss I wouldn’t want them in there either!
I’m sure the FOP wants it to be seniority but that’ll have to be a contractual bargaining issue.
Bring it on. Waste more time. Peddle more bullshit. The game is up and you numb nuts bosses know it. These are acts of desperation by Special Ed and his staff Mutts. Start out by bringing in Special Ed's kid and the other clout babies.
Read your own General Orders, Polices and Procedures. Look in the mirror and you will see why you have created the chaos in the Department. Look and listen to what comes out of the Murder Mayor's own mouth about crime and policing. You're not pushing anyone around with your bullshit Compsat meetings. Ed and his Mutts are on their last legs and soon will be dumped.
We are not being held hostage and threatened by you. You're being held hostage by the Murder Mayor. Go bargain with her. Better yet tell her the truth why things are so screwed up in Murder City. You don't have the STONES to do it!
No problem. If asked why are my numbers down I will say this: Very simple Sir/MAm, I answer my calls according to the Departments General Orders, Special Orders, and Patrol Division Orders. I patrol around schools, parks, play lots, CTA bus/El stops and stations, Special Attentions for my beat. When not paying attention to the various specified patrol activities, I am answering my radio assignments and conducting Official Police Business according the above mentioned directives. When I am not involved in these various activities I do go on patrol. I can not help it if my visible present encourages people not to engage in illegal activities and/or conduct. If while on patrol I SEE SOMEONE CONDUCTING AN ILLEGAL ACT I WILL ACT ACCORDINGLY. However, if I DON'T SEE ANY ILLEGAL ACTIVITY I CAN NOT ILLEGALLY PRODUCE ACTIVITY>
Good luck with that because 3/4 of the department will be down there.
I could see them doing it to tact teams ect....to explain drops in numbers between mertings
Anybody else notice a disturbing influx of liberals on this job? Funny how these are usually the same goofs that think ISR’s and blue cards make them the working police
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I wish they would call me down there ! 21 years on this job
and they have 2 year wonders in the camera room. That be
be a bid position (hello union). Early in my career having time
on the job meant something and respect was given. And don’t
get me started on connected people on foot routes. Work the
nonsense out in the streets and then you can hide in the camera
room. No roll call, improper uniforms , leaving early and the
list goes on. I’m just saying !
7/10/2019 01:33:00 AM
It will never be a bid position. The bosses want people in those rooms that are capable of operating all of the equipment, and can perform basic computer functions. Some people cant even copy and paste or create a new folder. They have no reason to be in a room full of computers. But I agree, you should have at least 5 years on the job to be in one of those rooms, not fresh off your ppo status, a few of those years on the street should be midnights in some ghetto district.
7/10/2019 07:56:00 AM
You are wrong about the bid position. If you bid for a spot you still have to meet the requirement necessary to do that job. Seniority alone is not the only issue. Usually doesn’t come up because in most cases anyone can meet those requirements. No so in the future when technology takes over
Hey Jimmy, hows that 150% spike in shootings going in 010. Those merit appointees in 010 really have a handle on things.
I am SO familiar with those 2 year wonders. The bosses see
something special in them and don't want to burn them out by
getting ACTUAL experience. It's in all lines of work. Just because
it's a new technology, they figure the young shits will be better.
They couldn't spot a drug deal if it bit them in the ass. There are
cops using all around them, yet they are unaware. They are also
being groomed to be incompetent house cats. It will be held
against them in the coming years. Raise? You don't have any
Street Cred. You never made an arrest. This is all we can afford.
Be happy with this or get another job. Oh, you're having eye strain
from 40 hours on the screens. They got special glasses for that.
Sergeants from narcotics and gang investigations had to answer questions at these dumb ass meetings. I'm sure tact sergeants are up next.
Lori and Ed are showing their ass again. Saying and doing the same silly moronic strategies again and again by different names. We have 1500 extra police in the field. How much did that magic trick cost? It cost the Community 6 killed and 66 maimed. You paid thru the ass monetarily and the Community's 66 families traumatized forever. If you could shit out 16000 or 1700 extra police what would that do for you?
Ed you still don't understand or want to understand that you are not going to fix crime in Murder City with your social justice bullshit. Can't wait for the next Reckoning meeting with you, little Lori and your staff Mutts. Waiting for the results of her meeting. Hope you got some great strategy for the Taste of Chicago. Be sure to order the "shit sandwich" and share it with the Murder Mayor. Have a great Taste.
Half those merit exempts never made s felony arrest on their entire career. What a crock of shit.
Anonymous Needs to be said said...
Dear compstat. In recent past the CPD has had a mission. Years ago it was gangs, guns and drugs. Then it went to an extreme broken windows theory of anyone that moves goes to jail. Then it moved into anyone that moves in “level, 1,2 and 3” DOC box went to jail. Then it moved into GMAC where he wanted Quality vs Quantity which then turned back into broken windows when crime went up then went to a mixture of quality and broken windows and “hands on the wall”.. it got goofy for a while and confusing what he wanted but it was still a defined mission. Then we got special ED who came in and publically said “we aren’t going to arrest ourselves out of this problem”. We stopped doing broken windows and quality of life arrests. We went to only targeting the “right” people and focus on “bridging the gap” and “community policing” with limiting arresting people. What the hell does any of that mean??? We won’t arrest ourselves out of this problem, be good to the community, bridge the gap but at every compstat it’s asking “where are the numbers???” There is no mission and no leadership. If you want crime to go down then go back to broken windows. If you can arrest a gang member for drinking, pissing, gang loitering, obstructing traffic, being in parks after hours etc instead of mandatory ANOV and it’s actually supported by the brass as our mission then crime will go back down.. especially downtown with the obstruction of traffic charge. There is also a disorderly conduct charge for gang members we CAN USE! Nobody really know this, but it was approved for use again where the officer can be the victim on one certain disorderly charge. This was sent out from the city law department itself in a department bulletin about two years ago. The problem is this is now discouraged every step of the way from the desk Sgt, Watch Lt, captains and commanders because we have NO CLUE what our command staff wants! They would rather do dance parties and basketball games with 11 year olds that don’t address the actual gang problems in our city.. the dope boys are not going to any of your stupid community evens. In fact, when you are having your community events the thugs are still selling dope, robbing and shooting people. But hey, you get to put some stupid 2 year millennial suburbanite be the change coppers picture on Twitter and Facebook and claim how in touch we are with the community on your blatant social media propaganda campaign. You show house mouses on the street on the 4th weekend out taking pics with large groups of the community... hey guess what... the PO from media affairs taking a picture with all the community members “bridging the gap” in 007 on the fourth?? Yep, that was just his family at a family BBQ. The same exact thing with the Hispanic officer from news affairs taking pictures with the “community” in 008 on the fourth, that was also his family. It’s all fake, misleading and false propaganda. We are police officers. In our specific job description it says to enforce laws, make arrests and ensure the safety of the community. We are now advised to do none of those. Take away one of the above three things and you can’t do the others. Take away the arrest part and the other two are gone. No leadership and no mission causes the troops to wander around aimlessly. We have a specific job.. do it and stop trying to turn us into community ambassadors and social workers. We are neither and the history of policing and the specific job requirements which are written on paper say so.. give us a leader with a plan and give us something to do.
7/10/2019 11:10:00 AM
Bingo! SCC, this needs to be a thread all on its own. The media and everyone need to read exactly this post!
I would love to go there to answer why I don’t do shit. It’s because if I do anything it’s deemed racist. I can’t point a gun at anyone anymore without going into deep explanations and paperwork of why, therefore I do not want to jeopardize my or my my partners life. All kinds of civilian goofs are Monday morning quarterbacking everything I do. Citizens are empowered to defy and fight the police. You kidding me? And you are wondering why I don’t do shit. You mayor and your liberal brainless political hacks have created this environment. Don’t ask me to explain why I can’t do shit. Look in the mirror and ask yourself that question.
So the commander is clocked doing 114mph---but he is given a ticket for doing 80mph---I guess the commander got special treatment from Indiana State Police; should have been charged with a felony for being more than 30 mphs over; i bet his pompous attitude ruined it for all other cpd officers kinda like what happens in Wisconsin. jerkoff commander; and then the moron press guy for cpd claims that the supt called the commander in to supervise interviews on a death investigation; yeah right. again the commander getting special treatment and the cover-up starts at the top; he should be stripped and put at call back, any other officer would have been stripped for sure; a staples guy that's why he isn't stripped yet, trying to save his dumb ass; miserable clear up rate and top echelon still in place and still making the same mistakes...
I hope they call me down. I’ll invite the media too and tell exactly how CPD really works. After I’m done talking, you’re gonna see several bosses putting in their papers and retire early! It will be a huge embarrassment for CPD.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
So the commander is clocked doing 114mph---but he is given a ticket for doing 80mph---I guess the commander got special treatment from Indiana State Police; should have been charged with a felony for being more than 30 mphs over; i bet his pompous attitude ruined it for all other cpd officers kinda like what happens in Wisconsin. jerkoff commander; and then the moron press guy for cpd claims that the supt called the commander in to supervise interviews on a death investigation; yeah right. again the commander getting special treatment and the cover-up starts at the top; he should be stripped and put at call back, any other officer would have been stripped for sure; a staples guy that's why he isn't stripped yet, trying to save his dumb ass; miserable clear up rate and top echelon still in place and still making the same mistakes...
7/11/2019 10:52:00 PM
Most definitely NOT a staples guy, she can’t stand him even though she’s a goof herself. Ed W. is in good with Ed J. AND even tighter with Riccio.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I hope they call me down. I’ll invite the media too and tell exactly how CPD really works. After I’m done talking, you’re gonna see several bosses putting in their papers and retire early! It will be a huge embarrassment for CPD.
7/12/2019 12:23:00 AM
Kind of full of yourself there, aren't you? If you're so powerful and hold so much sway, don't wait to be called down. Fork over to the media now.
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