Consent Decree Dead
- Days before she’s scheduled to give a speech on Chicago’s massive budget deficit, Mayor Lori Lightfoot has imposed a hiring freeze across all departments and positions in city government, including police.
The administration announced the move in a memo earlier this week from Budget Director Susie Park to all city commissioners and department heads. In an interview, Park told the Tribune there are about 3,000 vacancies citywide affected by the freeze.
Has anyone here sat down and read the Consent Decree? Has Groot even read it?
Has anyone been at Roll Calls where the Consent Decree people give their little speech outlining all the hiring and promotions that are required to be undertaken by a Department under a Consent Decree? They're talking 300 new sergeants at a minimum to properly supervise, along with 50-to-80 lieutenants. This is the time to be studying for the next test, because the classes are going to be coming quickly in order to meet the Consent Decree requirements - requirements overseen and enforced by a judge.
Unless Groot refuses to hire. Then what?
The last hiring freeze was about 12 years ago and if you remember, it gave rise to all sorts of shortages, promotional lists that stayed up for nine years, Department wide burnout, unmanned cars over all watches, and led directly to the closing of three Districts and two Areas after McCompStat arrived - due to staffing shortages. It impacted training across the board and (in our opinion) led to a breakdown of institutional knowledge. The burnout we observed was worrisome. It was also the subject of countless articles and critiques here.
No manpower means no Consent Decree. The Department would be incapable of meeting many of the "requirements" and cannot properly Patrol, Serve and Protect the citizenry.
Has anyone been at Roll Calls where the Consent Decree people give their little speech outlining all the hiring and promotions that are required to be undertaken by a Department under a Consent Decree? They're talking 300 new sergeants at a minimum to properly supervise, along with 50-to-80 lieutenants. This is the time to be studying for the next test, because the classes are going to be coming quickly in order to meet the Consent Decree requirements - requirements overseen and enforced by a judge.
Unless Groot refuses to hire. Then what?
The last hiring freeze was about 12 years ago and if you remember, it gave rise to all sorts of shortages, promotional lists that stayed up for nine years, Department wide burnout, unmanned cars over all watches, and led directly to the closing of three Districts and two Areas after McCompStat arrived - due to staffing shortages. It impacted training across the board and (in our opinion) led to a breakdown of institutional knowledge. The burnout we observed was worrisome. It was also the subject of countless articles and critiques here.
No manpower means no Consent Decree. The Department would be incapable of meeting many of the "requirements" and cannot properly Patrol, Serve and Protect the citizenry.
Labels: city politics, department issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
155 Comments:
who cares anymore????
just answer the call, give a flash message, and write a report.
America
Out of control clueless whack job
Stop hiring and eliminate positions throughout the entire City. and find more ways to cut costs. Who cares about the concent decree. It basically serves the same purpose as toilet paper.
I am only 300 out. If the list stays up for another 5 years, I think I have a chance. I am going to buy my white shirts now and beat the rush!
It's like that old children's book with illustrations,
Which Is More Powerful, The Sun or The Wind?
(Spoiler: the Sun won because he made it so hot
that the Traveler removed his cloak)
In this case, Lori "The Wind" Lightfoot is blowing
cold air and has frozen Chicago solid. Ultimately,
this will backfire, because honey attracts more flies than shit.
The "Consent Decree" was manufactured donkey-dung
from the get-go designed to make The Police back-up
from aggressive crime fighting and pursuit of criminals.
The "Consent Decree" is "tha' communerty's" revenge
against The Police and by proxy, law-abiding society.
Unless she plans to cut staff numbers.
If the money isn't there to hire and staff the CPD it isn't there. Chicago/Cook Co. are broke and there is no monetary relief in sight.
While she’s on vacation in Maine the CPD has restricted time off. While the city is in a budget catastrophe she spends $220,000 upgrading her City Hall office. I find it hard to believe Rahm stepped foot in that office without all the finest quality furniture and fixtures. So what exactly is in such dire need of repair? Let’s see the line items, let’s see exactly what WE the taxpayers are paying for! Transparency Lori! Accountability Lori!
Ha Ha and Kick Ass!
I’m guessing OT will be next in her crosshairs. She’ll be gunning for the detective division and the units milking it. I wonder if she’ll place any of the blame on king Daley who is really to blame for the mess? Will she blame Rahm? He’s at fault too. Or will she honor these two clowns with naming buildings and parks after them for all their good deeds? PS...Fuck you Daley!
What about this? Will this have any effect?
The memorandum, which Sessions signed shortly before President Trump effectively fired him, “provides guidance on the limited circumstances in which such a consent decree may be appropriate” and “limits the terms for consent decrees and settlement agreements with state and local governmental entities, including terms requiring the use of monitors; and amends the process for the approval of these mechanisms in cases in which they are permissible.”
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/415885-on-his-way-out-sessions-limits-use-of-consent-decrees
This reminds me of.....
Tonight, listening to Ian Punnett on Coast to Coast
relate the story how he was working at a small radio
station in West Virginia as a young boadcaster, when
a listener sent in some type of rag doll. The station
manager saw it and warned everyone to STAY AWAY,
DON'T EVEN TOUCH IT! (This was a Mountain People
Thing). So the manager takes the package with the doll
to the alley out back, and they set it on fire, and they all
watch it burn. This is what Lori has done to Chicago.
She has paralyzed it. It is filled with fear and afraid to move.
And you have a sense that this will not turn out well.
Yet she’s blowing nearly a quarter million for her office renovation? The must be having to redo it so short people can reach the books on the shelf and build a platform for her desk and chair so she can look people eye to eye while they’re seated.
And a quarter mil would build a nice cozy place outside of city limits.
She’s truly pathetic.
Shrink and grow rich
It's all bullshit anyway.
Who cares.
The inmates are running the asylum.
Well the birdies I heard tweeting this afternoon said it will not effect sgts and detectives from being made...in fact it’s in the article that they will work with the department in maintaining those that solve crimes detectives....they are just stopping recruits from getting hired
I'm kinda at the point now where I'm looking at this like if the city refuses time and time again to impose things that are not negotiated through the CBA and it's the subcommittees seem to be acting in bad faith FOP and the city - why don't we fucking just strike ? It has never been this bad between the police and the city ever because even when it seemed bad - there was always some sort of good faith measure for getting contracts done and some sort of fairness being applied to all of us. We are so far from that anymore that fuck it what are our options are anymore ? What's the worst that's going to happen with a strike ? They barley can get people to take the damn job anyway so why the fuck are we worried about losing shit ? Maybe someone with more knowledge on the matter can tell me why I'm wrong but as of now striking looks like a damn good idea in my opinion.
Just more excuses why city services will diminish; while taxing us more and charging more in fees.
More so now than ever, if the city wants to save money the mayor should explore a reduction in the aldercreatures to save money on salaries/bennies/pensions and monies for office expenses. The same goes for the ward offices also and then sell the vacant lots of the closed wards.
Oh please. They'll follow the consent decree on the cheap, well, not if you're an unclouted PO. You'll be the one paying the consent decree out of your ass.
Whoever keeps posting that KJ is sitting in prison cell collecting a pension is lying. KJ is free on bond his next sentencing hearing date is:
The defendant's motion to
reset sentencing [17] is granted, and by agreement of the parties, the sentencing is reset to
12/3/19 at 1:30 p.m.
So he is free till December.
You hit the nail on the head. It is the machine’s formula for Chicago Mayor: Raise taxes and recklessly cut jobs in your first year when voters are stuck with you. Later when you get close to an election, you start hiring, slow down on the taxing and start buying the votes.
It was not long ago that a certain mayor stopped hiring police. As officers retired, nobody replaced them. Citywide units were disbanded. Officers from the units were sent back to the districts in a feeble attempt to make good on the campaign lie of adding 1000 officers to streets. The force shrank. OT went out of control. Officers grew tired. Crime spun out of control. Chicago’s homicide rate skyrocketed. The blood was on his hands.
But then he started hiring police. He also purchased votes by paying parents to stand along the safe passage routes. Everyone forgot about what he had done in the first two years and he won reelection.
Could the groot be thinking of putting the police department on 12 hour shifts. I can hardly wait to hear her crybaby shock and awe speech next week.
Sounds like the CPD may perish too.
If we’re not short staffed, why are weekends cancelled weeks in advance?!
Hiring Freeze? Does anyone actually want to work for the racist, sexist, homophobic, black lives killing police? /sarc
It’s not the end of the consent decree. It’s simply selective enforcement of its features. The expectations and demands of the decree will simply be thrust upon existing officers, without the addition of manpower due to a budget shortfall. I don’t know why you would say the consent decree is dead. The corrupt authors and enforcers of the decree will continue to mandate all other requirements. You didn’t expect this process to be fair and reasonable with actual attainable goals did you?
Its obvious that she doesn't know what is goes doing.
Who the FUCK voted for her?
Forgot to mention. As police retire and start pulling from the pension, no newbies to add into the greatest ponzi Scheme ever devised. Makes Madoff look legit. Genius move. All in the master plan to kill the pension. Meanwhile the gold braids keep sucking their 120k or more from the veins of a soon to be emaciated fund. Oh wait, taxes will be raised again to cure the problem while 40% of all monies collected continues to go into the TIF accounts for their Christmas shopping binges. 70 years of democrats. This is what you get.
Sandra Day for superintedant, she’s dumb as a box of rocks, typical merit pos.
No manpower means no Consent Decree. The Department would be incapable of meeting many of the "requirements" and cannot properly Patrol, Serve and Protect the citizenry.
Heck who needs manpower? We have Grootpower! Now let's all say it together; I am GROOT...
that fifth floor renovation was really a extreme federal bug sweep.
I'm kinda at the point now where I'm looking at this like if the city refuses time and time again to impose things that are not negotiated through the CBA and it's the subcommittees seem to be acting in bad faith FOP and the city - why don't we fucking just strike ? It has never been this bad between the police and the city ever because even when it seemed bad - there was always some sort of good faith measure for getting contracts done and some sort of fairness being applied to all of us. We are so far from that anymore that fuck it what are our options are anymore ? What's the worst that's going to happen with a strike ? They barley can get people to take the damn job anyway so why the fuck are we worried about losing shit ? Maybe someone with more knowledge on the matter can tell me why I'm wrong but as of now striking looks like a damn good idea in my opinion.
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We are not allowed to strike...
So, is it time for a reduction in the number of aldermen?
50 to 25? Or how about to the same number of police districts, 23.
Graham got bitch-slapped hard yesterday by one of the Trustees. He was given a dose of reality. Expect graham to not run in next election. He has no support from the board.
build a platform for her desk and chair so she can look people eye to eye while they’re seated.
No, there's steps that lead up to her chair like a judge in court. Her court hahaha and adress her as Master (insert chosen name)
220,000 upgrading her City Hall office. I find it hard to believe Rahm stepped foot in that office without all the finest quality furniture and fixtures. So what exactly is in such dire need of repair? Let’s see the line items, let’s see exactly what WE the taxpayers are paying for! Transparency Lori! Accountability Lori!
8/24/2019 12:23:00 AM
Didn't a Congressman lose his job over spending funds to redo his office in the tv show Dowton Abby
ITS another lie!
SO all these brave new officer are spending thousand of dollars on a SGT test that will not happen for a few years????
GROOT does not understand attrition and retirement numbers.
THIS very short woman is over her head. it an angle also for arbitration with the police fire and teacher unions.
GROOT gonna cry poor and tell the arbitrator the City is broke while growing WEED and building casinos and Obama museums.
I would like to see her do 2 lines of blow and
flail around in a Star Wars Haloween costume.
You know, jumping around in stalled rush hour
traffic on the roofs, hoods, and trunks of cars.
Tourist: "Does this happen all the time?"
CPD: "Yeah. That's just the mayor."
You all better hope her speech doesn't say there will be a smaller CPD. It would devastate your pension even further. Fewer paying while list of retirees grows. City gas 27 Billion in debt. Can you say much higher taxes not only this year but the next several years. Bankruptcy is the only way out. Need to start over. No way out.
A hiring freeze will not impact the consent decree.
There’ll be no NEW HIRES, but promotions - certainly as required by the decree - will take place. Along with typical CPD half-assed interpretations and manipulations of the supervisor-to-officer ratio. So, through normal attrition the number of police officer positions will diminish. My guess is that Ms. Hater wants close to a thousand unfilled sworn spots. That will take about two years of no hiring. The question is whether she’ll write those positions out of the budget or just keep them unfilled and spend the money elsewhere. We’ll see what the puppet City Council does.
So hang on, it’ll be a bumpy ride.
And to the poster at 8/24/2019 01:05:00 AM - I don’t know if you’re just ignorant or an imbecile, but IT’S ILLEGAL FOR THE POLICE TO STRIKE. What could happen? Well, my guess is that you’d be fired and quite likely charged with Official Misconduct. That’s why there’s this thing called ”binding arbitration”. Try showing up at your FOP meetings and holding your “union” accountable.
Yet there’s droves of young officers risking their necks speeding to calls, doing ISRs, writing movers, and searching for arrest. Your arrest will be I-bonded out immediately. That arrest will do nothing for you and it might cost you a TRR or being sued. Same for the ISR. There is no point in doing anything above the job description. Go to your calls at the speed limit or below. Write a report for the person. Go home. Stop doing foot and squad chases. You may feel as if you’re doing good but one wrong move and the mayor will make an example out of you. It’s your life/freedom/mental health.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Well the birdies I heard tweeting this afternoon said it will not effect sgts and detectives from being made...in fact it’s in the article that they will work with the department in maintaining those that solve crimes detectives....they are just stopping recruits from getting hired
8/24/2019 12:54:00 AM
Well they cant’t drain the current ranks with no replacements in the pipeline.
Simple fix for the CPD is take ALL desk jobs away. Put those cops on the street and replace with retired LEO's and hire office staff at 1/2 rthem going CPD rate. That way same number of cops on the street and budget cuts by 20-25% with lower cost office staff. Everybody happy but the desk dollies forced to work the streets.
How about privatizing many city services. Get out from Union contracts and save 100'some of millions each year.
Dude, you let the manpower numbers drop then you need less supervisors. That's her way of thinking. Less manpower, less supervisors, still maintaining a consent decree span of control.
I can't say as I blame her for the Office renovation. It will take at least that to get the RahmYuk out of the carpets.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
That piece of shit ILL Attorney General Lisa Madigan caused all of this , Go See the ASSHOLE Democratic about the Hiring Freeze you Twit !
Democrats don’t have to follow rules, only police and republicans
Just wait til the swipe out comes in play I havnt done a tvb in years might take me 4 hrs
Batten down the hatches........stormy weather ahead. So brace yourselves........
Well put the 100 plus officers at the academy on the street !!
They ignore the decree when it benefits us. Stop canceling RDO’s.
Damn. I was only about 90 out!
LightGroot is even underwater in Utah
NOT a single word about "cutting" any overfilled spots within any departments not just the police department.You could fill the entire consent degree with all the supervisors just at HQ....
It’s not the end of the consent decree. It’s simply selective enforcement of its features. The expectations and demands of the decree will simply be thrust upon existing officers, without the addition of manpower due to a budget shortfall. I don’t know why you would say the consent decree is dead. The corrupt authors and enforcers of the decree will continue to mandate all other requirements. You didn’t expect this process to be fair and reasonable with actual attainable goals did you?
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Exactly! Well said my friend.
Well said SCC. Keep up the good work.
Within the next year you’re going to have MASSIVE amounts of retirements. In 1990/91 the classes were so large the academy ran both day and night groups. We could see the manpower drop to 5-6,000. Hey millennials better grow up fast and learn to multitask. Anyone who ever knew the joy of hitting the streets on a hot summer night, while rotating on midnights to “Get your pencil ready” knows what I mean.
Out with a very influential friend last night who related to me that layoffs very possible in every department, but he could not say police or fire. Lori is going to unions to demand that truck drivers just sit in truck and sleep while the laborers and tradesmen work. They would need to pitch in.
Maybe to save money we should go back to removing bodies ourselves and maybe then the “Snowflakes” will understand why Old Timers get so frustrated with their antics.
You're so right SCC. This department is so ass backwards. It's pathetic! On the bright side, parking will improve at the academy for all that new consent decree mandated training.
It's all goin' down the tubes, baby.
Just maybe 5 yrs ago, what was known as "America's
Most Livable City" (disclosure: this shit changes every
year and appears to be backed by the real estate industry)
has had 3 stabbings in the downtown area within a month,
and the month ain't over yet. In some cases, police were
nearby. And this city ain't no London with multicultural
immigrants.
So much for those end of the year Det/Sgt promos.
Good thing her office $200,000 office make-over was scheduled and done before that freeze letter came out.
(Kick in the teeth that it was pulled from TIF funds. I need a new roof...can I get some TIF for that?)
Take it to the IL Suoreme Court.
The Madgroin-Kwamie Doctrine will allow for a little deviation if it’s to help the children.
Let’s face it, Grootie MacFrootie is an idiot, her advisors are idiots. (Nobody Tells Me What To Do™️)
Make no mistake about it, there’s plenty of mighty sharp people in the finance world that have been doing bidness with the City for decades telling her what direction to take. It doesn’t include hiring freezing, especially in this Uncle Trump economy.
Hiring freeze...why now?
Quiet is the CPS.
Did GrootFoot make deals already to accommodate most of the CPS contract negotiations/budget or what?
Adding nurses, aides, teachers and significantly more than the 5 yr-14% wage bump (maintaining a 2% pension contribution)?
Hmmmmm.
And the First Responders want wage and benefits AND pensions fortified...oh hell no.
Maybe this is more of a distraction, the City only has to hire 30 or so (PO’s) twice next year and the “hiring freeze” is moot.
First Responders won’t see diddly-squat from the tax increase.
Another poor mouth Democrat ruse.
shithole rahm Chicago funded 3000 job vacancies.. where has the money gone in past?..now clown mayor lightfoot will save $250 million not spending it in 2020 ..
Richie Daley created this little terd during his days of being mayor.
Anonymous said...
who cares anymore????
just answer the call, give a flash message, and write a report.
America
8/24/2019 12:11:00 AM
Couldnt have said it better myself. It's a job. No point in caring about the stuff you cant control. Be safe all.
Dead Eye Grôôt:
You can't tell me she ain't some type of Don King clone.
Both captured by aliens, put on side-by-side operating
tables, surrounded by green fluorescent insect-like
surgeons. A brain transplant? No. Hair. They were
interested in the hair. Fascinated by the hair. And the
bug-eyes, well that was just a bonus because they both
had them.
A boss giving you a hard time? Want to shut them up? Just ask the if the the term ‘ghost payroller’ should be hyphenated. Tell them you want to get the report you’re gonna write about them correct.
Rahm hired lots of coppers.
Remember when Obama went to the funeral of 5 dead cops in Dallas, who were killed by a black lives matter militant? Remember how he blamed cops for being racist while he stood in front of those coffins? Lori is cut from the same cloth, only she's half as smart and twice as hateful. This city will be Detroit in 2 years.
There’s already way too many supervisors and brass. The city definitely needs to freeze anymore promotions. But they should continue putting recruits through the academy. We need a constant trickle of new cops
While she’s on vacation in Maine the CPD has restricted time off. While the city is in a budget catastrophe she spends $220,000 upgrading her City Hall office. I find it hard to believe Rahm stepped foot in that office without all the finest quality furniture and fixtures. So what exactly is in such dire need of repair? Let’s see the line items, let’s see exactly what WE the taxpayers are paying for! Transparency Lori! Accountability Lori!
8/24/2019 12:23:00 AM
You foolish sheep. She spent TIF money not taxpayer money. Once it goes into the TIF fund it is the mayor's, it's no longer tax money.
The consent decree was going to die on the vine no matter what. There isn't any money to make it actually happen. Rahm knew this and that's why he was against it. When he was forced to go along with it, he told Madigan that the state would have to pay for it and she said sure knowing she was leaving. Basically it's only as effective as the pieces of paper that it's written on. The judge overseeing it has already mentioned twice in legal hearings that the city isn't bound by federal mandate so there is zero repercussion ie. withholding federal funding or takeover of dept by feds etc. There is one other major item in the decree... The end date can be moved up at anytime if the monitor and judge overseeing agree that the city has made vast progress and is "reformed". Somehow I can see the mayor in the near future having a press conference indicating "mission accomplished"
Un-Fucking-Believable! The midget mayor, Mzzzz Poverty-Crime herself, is a real piece of work.
Right after she's sworn in Mayor Lightspeed creates new feel-good do-nothing management positions like the *Office of Equity and Racial Justice* just so she can virtue signal to her fellow LGBTQwxyzabcdeieio Social Justice Warrior Moonbats how f--king 'woke' she is, then pulls this Bullshit of freezing the Police Department's manpower -- supposedly along with every other city department due to the city's budget shortfall.
That's really going to help in reducing the violent Gang Crime, now isn't it, 'mayor'.
Well here's a radical idea mayor; How about eliminating City Departments, Services, and Programs that are duplicated (at the least) by State and/or Federal Agencies and/or Programs. Or reducing deadwood on the city payroll. You know -- those 'Non-Essential' Employees that have infected every level of government across the country.
And then Mayor, you could use that money to at least keep Police manpower numbers from decreasing by normal attrition of officers retiring or resigning.
So mayor, did any of your crack staff of new bureaucrats happen to mention anything at all like that? No, of course they didn't. They're all like you and detest the police.
It's much easier to let the Police Department wither on the vine and slowly die -- figuratively speaking of course. And when there's a weekend with Ten Killed and Seventy Wounded you can Huff & Puff to the lickspittle lackeys in the media and proclaim: 'The Police WILL be Held Accountable'!
ps: *Rumor Has It* that the reason Lori Lightspeed ultimately chose Maine for her vacation was so she could wear all her Flannel Shirts and play Lumberjack. This is just a rumor mind you and hasn't been confirmed -- yet. ;-)
It is increasingly obvious that Mayor Lightweight is incapable of effectively solving the problems that Chicago faces. Even Mayor Emmanuel, could not solve them, nor could Richie Daley solve them. That is not surprising, since I long ago realized that effectively running a municipality in this doomed State of Illinois, is not a task for the faint of heart.
The state is effectively broke, and so are Crook County and Chicago. The latter two have sucked the rest of the state dry economically at this point, and despite our dear Governor's raising of taxes, any efforts to have truly balanced state and Chicago budgets are doomed to fail. The feds are in even worse shape, so there is not going to be a federal bailout.
Already an airliner load of taxpayers is fleeing this state every single day. I will be joining them in April next year.
The Consent Decree isn’t dead and it isn’t going anywhere. They whines and cried and stomped their feet to get it and now it’s here and it’s Federally enforceable. Groot doesn’t have a choice now. Parts of it talk about staffing, supervision, technology, equipment and training. She certainly hasn’t read it and doesn’t seem to remember her days working for they Federal Government. This isn’t a choice, the city has to abide by it.
Look up how much money LA spent on theirs. The dems wanted this, now they have to deal with it.
I believe the " police reform" movement and " the consent decree" was never about anything else then putting the harness on the cops and suspending and firing more of them. No mention of honest promotions examinations, honest " merit" promotions and assignments. It all falls into the false narrative of mass incarceration pushed by black activists and the media supporters. The result? Well, you can read about every day and it is not good.If the media was honest, and it is not, they would publish a total violent crime list every day in their papers. It would take up more then a few pages. It would be impossible to do that with non-violent crimes. If you ever read the local suburban media you will see a list of just about every arrest and many even list the crimes committed in the towns toinclude traffic arrests.
we just elected a mayor who is totally anti-establishment, unskilled, and unqualified. Look out !
TIF Funds. why haven't any mayors stop the TIF Funds and put it towards the financial problems. The City sets aside approximately $650 million a year into these various funds. Stop the payments into the funds and you only have $350 million to come up with.
"The corrupt authors and enforcers of the decree will continue to mandate all other requirements. You didn’t expect this process to be fair and reasonable with actual attainable goals did you?"
.....Amen brother.
I guess they forgot how crime went out of control in 2016. Saving money on Police and Public safety!
SCC-when the rhetoric starts to increase and vilify the police for not obeying the consent decree, please remind the sjw’s that Lori made compliance impossible with her hiring freeze. And a big F U to little Lisa Madigan!’
Retired.38 spl +P
Blogger Was that a SPEEDBUMP?! said...
If we’re not short staffed, why are weekends cancelled weeks in advance?!
8/24/2019 03:47:00 AM
Because some in the administration actually believe more officers on the street will cut the shootings and change things. I guess we saw how that worked out
The D.C. is not dead.
LL will just use the parts she really likes.
Discipline is her favored, that will be used.
back to the days of Arthur Anderson and mayor daly.
I'm leaning the toward NO hires for a while. Doing more with less seems to be the mantra these days since Eric Holder coined the phrase back around 2010. The consent decree is an OPTION for elected democrats. They think of a judges order as suggestions. Recall the judges order to meet the funding of the pensions to a specific level. That made them laugh. Right now, Chicago doesn't have a revenue problem, it has a spending problem. Money is going to the wrong areas. We are going to have more serious problems if this continues. Watch them kick the can down the road again. Littlefoot seems to be ALL talk and has many aspirations until the rubber meets the road and she cant have it like she likes because the money's not there. Casino's wont solve our problems. They can put gaming slots in every rest room in city hall, and it wont solve anything.
So another hiring freeze until CPD is 1000 short again. Maybe 2000 short. They will still use the number 13000 no matter how many we have. No one will notice but CPD. The self cleaning oven will go on overtime. Morale will sink again to unprecedented levels, and the command staff will rattle their sabres in a loud din. OT will be cut. (again) Then crime in Chicago will again be national news and selective moral outrage will kick in. They will promise more police, but it wont even replace the retirees, quitters, and fired personnel.
I have seen the future in Chicago. It is just like the past.
Look for the Mayor to dramatically up her Anti-Police Rhetoric. The Maine trip was to personally receive her talking points and marching orders of the National Democratic Party. Expect the mantra to go right back to the racial cesspool of police brutality, Eric Garner, Mike Brown, Trayvon Yada,Yada,Yada. Their only hope is a recession and infuriate the African American voting block against Trump. She was explicettly ordered to more aggressively seek out confrontation with the police.
This is an opportunity for us to put ourselves in a better position for defending future attacks on our rights. Someone like JCat would be the right person at this point in time. It’s been prove. That the current leader doesn’t even take direction from others in leadership positions. JCat is not part of any “team” with political baggage or 20 year old scores to settle. In the up coming months, watch his support base grow.
We are short now as it is . OT is every weekend .
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Could the groot be thinking of putting the police department on 12 hour shifts. I can hardly wait to hear her crybaby shock and awe speech next week.
She wants 4 hour differential with no compensation. I believe 12 hour days are coming. Not bad if your in 01,12,16,18 or 22 tough s**t if your in a s**t district. This woman is out and out after the police. F**k her and her people. I can take it and then I’ll ask for more. I fully intend to making over 100,000 for 7 more years before I get forced out. Twenty seven plus seven more. Pay me b***h...
(OT) With our property tax is steadily skyrocketing while the Democrats pander to and give the money away to the illegal criminals and the Felons we are bastardized as police we get absolutely nothing done. For example living on beat 811 and the 14th ward absolutely nothing is being done no no streets no new curbs nothing, cannot even get your alley light fixed you call Ed Burke’s officeand you asked to have some things done And you were told you have to put it in online and you will have to wait why do we even have this office anymore spending millions of dollars for a white Alderman Burke respectively please resign immediately your neutered you’re getting nothing done for the people absolutely nothing is our taxes skyrocket. The 23rd Ward was caught up by Ed Burke k Mike Madigan again and and that crew, they did it to get more of the Caucasian vote however where the 23rd Ward is still remaining and the 13th ward is there drive around they are getting new streets new alleys new curbs new lighting we get absolutely nothing and 14th ward is ridiculous what is going on.
If you can’t do anything anymore for us Alderman now is the time to take that fedora off hang it up on your hall rack retire now finish whatever federal case you have moved off into the sunset your time is done sorry to say it
Simple solution.
Promote everyone, and make them their own supervisor!
/s/ Fredo Ed
The consent decree is a marathon, not a sprint. No consent decree has ever been lifted in less than 5-7 years. The temp hiring freeze might slow down progress in certain areas but by no means is it dead in water
Anonymous said...
While she’s on vacation in Maine the CPD has restricted time off. While the city is in a budget catastrophe she spends $220,000 upgrading her City Hall office. I find it hard to believe Rahm stepped foot in that office without all the finest quality furniture and fixtures. So what exactly is in such dire need of repair? Let’s see the line items, let’s see exactly what WE the taxpayers are paying for! Transparency Lori! Accountability Lori!
8/24/2019 12:23:00 AM
**You didn't notice all the rainbow colors all over??
Anonymous said...
Yet she’s blowing nearly a quarter million for her office renovation? The must be having to redo it so short people can reach the books on the shelf and build a platform for her desk and chair so she can look people eye to eye while they’re seated.
And a quarter mil would build a nice cozy place outside of city limits.
She’s truly pathetic
******are you fucking kidding me? Mayor Munchikin has the nerve to spend that kind of money on renovations and yet your going to go on tv and say the city has a huge deficit and raise taxes??? That really takes the Cake...Fuck you!
Slow walk the job. Meet basic requirements. She continues to make enemies because she is not that smart to run a major city. Chicago is a clout ridden city run by the Machine with Democratic Socialist at the levers of power. Couple this with Groot's campaign promise to get even for perceived Community ills heaped on all by the Daley's and the Midget is a road map for disaster - a $1 Billion disaster. Let it come, let is be painful, let her lay the heavy tax burden on the business/real estate sector and the North/Northwest sides. Let her suffer the consequences of her buffoonery. Policing as we knew it is gone. The citizens are on their own - conceal and carry to protect yourselves from Dude, Inc.
We can only go forward with job actions or legal actions and a PROFESSIONAL PUBLIC RELATIONS message. Hear that FOP -spend some of our money for our cause. For now FOP leadership is useless, the Consent Decree is a requirement of the City and is Groot's responsibility for enforcement, abuse or non compliance; and most important if we are pushed into excessive days off and/or extended periods of overtime then call in and don't show. It's hard ball folks, get a mitt and get into the game, otherwise go back to the showers.
If you're not a plyer, you're on your own. Groot's cards will be on the table on or about the 29th of August. We know this eventually will end in a disaster. The question is how bad of a disaster, who will be injured and how badly will those injuries be. In one sense I am glad this is coming to a showdown with Groot. Let her prejudice, bias, and incompetence be put on full display. Once she draws the line in the sand then the battle for our livelihood and the protection of the city can begin in earnest.
United we stand, divided we fall. Blue Unity.
You have a desk with a chair, book cases, file cabinets, windows, secretary and even security...what more do you want...esp since your never in the office and out of town. Fuck you and your renovations...un-fuckin-believable!!! I thought he have a deficit and were supposed to make cuts? I guess the cuts dont matter when it comes to spending it on yourself and when your only gonna be a only 1 term mayor.
Anonymous said...
Could the groot be thinking of putting the police department on 12 hour shifts. I can hardly wait to hear her crybaby shock and awe speech next week.
8/24/2019 03:32:00 AM
****According to insiders, the City actually wants to get rid of 10 and 12 hr. shifts!
SunCrimes posted the story about the freeze too of course... I mention this only so anyone can see the photo of Groot which was used.
https://chicago.suntimes.com/city-hall/2019/8/23/20829984/chicago-hiring-freeze-mayor-lori-lightfoot-orders
WHAT A SHIT EATING SLY GRIN SHE HAS. That smirk says enough.
Give your input! Groot needs to hear from you!
www.chicago.gov/2020budget
They need to cut 10% across the board on every department including police and fire. Start with the top and work down. All city departments are bloated with wasted management positions. Don't need all the chiefs, deputies, commanders, foremen, supervisors, especially when the people who are actually doing the work are being diminished. Do we need all these deputy mayors and city council committees?
Hiring freeze will not approve to CPD in 2020 because of consent decree .
006 is supposed to start the pilot consent decree on 01 January 2020. 006 is currently 20 sarges short of what is needed. This could be interesting
Here's the crazy shit behind the last PGH stabbing....
Johnny Lee Martin, a 36 yr old homeless man from
Alabama, gave $60 to a man and a woman who
supposedly sold drugs in a downtown park. They
took the cash then pointed to a random woman who
supposedly had his heroin. Johnny approached the woman
who said she had no drugs, but offered to give him $20 of
her own money out of sympathy. Enraged, J.L. stabbed the
woman in her hands 3 times with a pocket knife. Police got
J.L. with a Taser. J.L. said it was good he got caught so now
he can get help with his addiction. Thank you for visiting, J.L.
This in a park across from a 5-star hotel packed with out of
town visitors. When you get clean ask the mayor for a job as
a park safety consultant, Johnny, and tell the folks back home
"Hey."
Again? This is happening with way too much frequency practice practice practice make sure you’re ready if the time comes to protect yourself your family your loved ones the animals are totally running wild;
Off-duty officer exchanges gunfire with male who shot at him: police
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-shots-fired-police-20190824-lshzrqlo55bydjjxsajjlp6nnu-story.html
Here is a bigger question what happens if you’re fired on off-duty you fire back and you may be injured or killed an innocent person there’s does the city wipe their hands of you and you’re on your own or do they help you? Well we know if you’re on duty and get attacked by a mentally drugged up crazed mental attacking you with a baseball bat and you make a mistake and accidentally hit innocent person just to hell that you have to go through his enough pain no I don’t have a solution for it!
Thankfully in this situation as the previous one I want to send people were hurt and the officer went home unscathed God bless the police.
Hey Mr. "SPEEDBUMP"
That's one sick photo that prints along with your handle.
This is a family blog. Can you change it to E.T. or
LightGroot?
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Could the groot be thinking of putting the police department on 12 hour shifts. I can hardly wait to hear her crybaby shock and awe speech next week.
8/24/2019 03:32:00 AM
****According to insiders, the City actually wants to get rid of 10 and 12 hr. shifts!
8/24/2019 02:06:00 PM
We don’t have 12 hour shifts and very few work 10hr. The majority of departments work the 10 or 12 hr shifts. It’s the most logical and financially efficient. It’s also great for getting well rested and spending time with the family. Helps morale and lord knows we can use it.
LL will try for more federal funds for consent decree
All lists coming down , new mayor, she doesn’t want anymore dummies from lieutenants (LieTen Ant) test or Sergeants test .
ET ,Detective tests in 2020 .
She should replace all command staff with civilians , save the pension . They do nothing , have no control over beat cars , might improve efficiency in units like gangs , narcotics
Yo, Yo, I See Ray! Ray Bradbury, that is.
Waukegan, Ill
Ray is riding a 12-foot Rocket Ship outside the Public
Library. Lori, there's room for two. Best times are after
Midnight on a full moon night. Bring I.D. for sobriety test.
*****
I hereby declare, Tim Apple, bring those phones back!
My Grandfather was on the job during the depression. For a while they were paid in scrip because the city had no money.
Get ready.
I am going to the meeting for supervisors next week in regards to the consent decree. I will ask the questions that need to be asked. KMA Club!
lets build a new terminal at Ohara. it will cost over $9,000,000,000 , but its something the city really needs. then for another $300,000,000 the city can have new street lights. nothing wrong with the old terminal and the old lights are still working. there is so much money in these two projects and the politicians need the kick backs.
Anonymous said...
Dead Eye Grôôt:
"You can't tell me she ain't some type of Don King clone.
Both captured by aliens, put on side-by-side operating
tables, surrounded by green fluorescent insect-like
surgeons. A brain transplant? No. Hair. They were
interested in the hair. Fascinated by the hair. And the
bug-eyes, well that was just a bonus because they both
had them."
8/24/2019 09:21:00 AM
So...
She's a little bulge-eyed, wild-haired LGBTQ
troll doll suction-cupped to the window of some
shot-the-fuck-up, crashed and burned ghetto sled?
who cares anymore????
just answer the call, give a flash message, and write a report.
America
8/24/2019 12:11:00 AM
Couldnt have said it better myself. It's a job. No point in caring about the stuff you cant control. Be safe all.
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I agree. Let's not stress ourselves over the politics of this job. We get paid well no matter what. Live within our means and the storm will pass. The goal to save, retire, and get out of here! Its not how much you make but how much you save.
We Are All Replaceable
This just in from the fightin 018.
Twelve primary beat cars are up tomorrow, Sunday, the 25th.
What’s the big deal you ask?
Eleven are 99.
And the asshats talk constantly about safety.
The good news is, 018 has more Tact Teams than Carters has liver pills.
So they got that going for them; which is nice...
Anonymous said...
Hiring Freeze? Does anyone actually want to work for the racist, sexist, homophobic, black lives killing police? /sarc
8/24/2019 03:55:00 AM
Can't even get people take the test they already dropped the college requirement I guess graduating from Chicago Public Schools is now the equivalent of a associate degree is you applied and were denied over credit hours file a lawsuit now!
Anonymous said...
Give your input! Groot needs to hear from you!
www.chicago.gov/2020budget
8/24/2019 02:23:00 PM
Abolish TIF Districts or at least stop funding them until budget balanced and pensions funded there is plenty of money!
I believe this strategy is gonna give groot what she wants. The hiring blitz that rahm started really has changed the department. I mean I have 5+ years on and theres about 3000 POs below me... Guys with 10 years have like 4000 under them, showing just how many new people the guy brought in. What this has done in my opinion is slowly change the department. Brand new people dont care about cameras or doing and ISR because thats all they know, they eat up anything bosses tell them while listening to the white shirts motivational roll calls. They run out there and get 20 TSS cards under the pretense that they get to wear plain clothes!
Back to the freeze/new budget (aka property tax hike), old timers are gonna keep retiring after 20 and fleeing the state. This will create the openings groot is seeking. She'll be another amazing mayor to this great city by hiring another couple thousand POs! Before you know it 1/2 the department has under 10 years and theyre much more up to speed on the new procedures/rules (you ever worked with an old timer who doesnt know how to do an electronic arrest?) Its alot easier to implement big changes on younger more impressionable officers, since as we all know old timers dont take anyones shit. Just my two cents.
- 5 year wonder.
In her speach she's going to admit to the rampant cheating. She's going to use that to throw out the lists and eliminate testing. All promotions will be by interview. You heard it here first.
Put the whole department on 10 hr shifts! It can work if done properly. A happy police force = a good police force.
OT
The Revs traveled up to Lake County to plead their case against charging the 'teenagers' with murder....
The F.O.P. should counter that the "Chicago is not broke", which is a book that explains how so many millions of tax dollars are raked off into the T.I.F slush funds every year. That the city is actually sitting on a mountain of cash, plenty enough to fund all of the pensions and pay our bills. Every time the mayor announces budget cuts and tax increases, counter with the facts about T.I.F. funds
Don't foot chase, don't car chase, don't stop anyone (racial profiling).Just answer the radio and go to your call. Make a case report,send a flash message, make all the notifications. Come up clear when done. Go to your next call. Stay safe and God Bless!
Just a quick question, Why does every other City Employee need to complete a year on the Job before they get vacation time yet the mayor is taking vacation after what, like 3-4 Months???
Groot was seen downtown by city hall hang jumping from a curb
Chicago does not need 50 aldermen and 50 wards. GROOT should decrease the aldermen to 10 aldermen and 10 wards. This will save the city some money. Make government smaller and more efficient.
No more hiring. Delay the next test then too! Why promote
7:49:00 PM
You mean 'teenbaggers'
OT in todays slum times article on LL looming budget shortfall speech it mentions Special Ed might be out before April when he woukd be fully vested for Supt pension :O very interesting
Why cut out 10 exempts when you could cut out 70 POs?
In her speach she's going to admit to the rampant cheating. She's going to use that to throw out the lists and eliminate testing. All promotions will be by interview. You heard it here first.
8/24/2019 07:30:00 PM
Wishful thinking, never going to happen, no way, and that would allow for more shenanigans and favoritism than ever.
OT
The Revs traveled up to Lake County to plead their case against charging the 'teenagers' with murder....
8/24/2019 07:49:00 PM
Wondered when theyd start acting up in lake county. Been seeing a lot of community up here recently. It's like they're testing the waters. Gee maybe they'll learn a lesson regarding good behavior?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Out with a very influential friend last night who related to me that layoffs very possible in every department, but he could not say police or fire. Lori is going to unions to demand that truck drivers just sit in truck and sleep while the laborers and tradesmen work
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Well troll, your friend doesn’t actually sound too influential then, does he?
Ranger Bob
There is endless money for developers and contractors! What is Groot bitching about when she talks about budget issues? Plenty of money being spent and more to be spent soon!
CHA helps deliver new developments on Chicago’s North, South Sides
https://www.thecha.org/news-media/news/cha-helps-deliver-new-developments-chicagos-north-south-sides
a commenter said to privatise the other depts. daley wanted to do this in the 90 s and give most of the laborer and truck work and garbage collection to marina trucking and fred barbara and FAMILY. if you get my drift. the city teamsters took a strike vote and almost pulled an illegal strike. a lot of first responders here think they are the only ones with a no strike clause, untrue, we all had it. if daley had privatised the depts there would be no one to pay into the pensions, just like a cpd hiring freeze cuts contributions. in a perfect world privatization would make sense, but here the machine would give the work to the mob and political contributors who would pay their employees shit and violate work rules and union contracts. at least now the wasted money goes into the pockets of city resident employees instead of city contractors who are not bound by residency. sux but its the best use of the funds in the tax black hole that is chicago. at the time no mayor wanted to have his name on a bancrupt pension even though they had no problem taking pension holidays to pay for election kickback mega projects in the loop. times have changed and madame bingo troll would probably be proud to be the one to crash the pensions. privatization is not the answer in this free wheeling everythings for sale city. i do agree with emptying the buildings of useless armed secretaries and ending the gold braid pension travesty. we live in interesting times................good luck.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'm kinda at the point now where I'm looking at this like if the city refuses time and time again to impose things that are not negotiated through the CBA and it's the subcommittees seem to be acting in bad faith FOP and the city - why don't we fucking just strike ? It has never been this bad between the police and the city ever because even when it seemed bad - there was always some sort of good faith measure for getting contracts done and some sort of fairness being applied to all of us. We are so far from that anymore that fuck it what are our options are anymore ? What's the worst that's going to happen with a strike ? They barley can get people to take the damn job anyway so why the fuck are we worried about losing shit ? Maybe someone with more knowledge on the matter can tell me why I'm wrong but as of now striking looks like a damn good idea in my opinion.
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We are not allowed to strike...
8/24/2019 06:23:00 AM
I kinda thought the same thing. Who gives a shit what we are allowed to do or not allowed. Isn’t that what a strike is all about? You don’t think 9 thousand plus cops walking out and all assembled in grant park in uniform or not have power?? We have the power to bring this city to its fucking knees. We have the potential to be a tremendous powerhouse that would gain international attention if we ALL stuck together for once. You think this city and it’s mayor would allow a new contract to go unsigned for even two days without police service ?? Lol. The way this violent city is, 911 and 311 wouldn’t last 3 days without the us police! Who they gonna call in? The national guard ? The feds? That’s Trumps federal government and dept of justice. Last time I checked he wasn’t too keen on Chicago and our liberal ways. Petition the state police? County? They don’t have manpower to handle the city. Truth is we have them all by the balls but we’re just too stupid and afraid to realize it. This is why the teachers union got exactly what they demanded. Because they had a pitbull as a union head. We’re fucking soft and we dont stick together. Whaaaa.. “we are not allowed to strike”. Hahahah. Keeping being their punching bag. All the way till they dismantle your profession and your pension.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
While she’s on vacation in Maine the CPD has restricted time off. While the city is in a budget catastrophe she spends $220,000 upgrading her City Hall office. I find it hard to believe Rahm stepped foot in that office without all the finest quality furniture and fixtures. So what exactly is in such dire need of repair? Let’s see the line items, let’s see exactly what WE the taxpayers are paying for! Transparency Lori! Accountability Lori!
8/24/2019 12:23:00 AM
I'd sure like to see CWBChicago digging on this one. They are a crime blog but this too is a crime. The city is supposedly broke but that doesn't matter, I get what I want! Rules don't apply to Emperor Groot. Clearly there was nothing wrong with her office that needed a 1/4 million dollar make over. Again this just proves how egotistical and hypocritical she is. And how will you explain this to the community, Grooty?
Simple fix for the CPD is take ALL desk jobs away. Put those cops on the street and replace with retired LEO's and hire office staff at 1/2 rthem going CPD rate. That way same number of cops on the street and budget cuts by 20-25% with lower cost office staff. Everybody happy but the desk dollies forced to work the streets.
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OK, sure hope nothing goes wrong with your life or body, that after 30 years a desk job might be good for you... Watch what you wish for.
Groot please investigate the Lt Cheating Promotional scandal
OT
The Revs traveled up to Lake County to plead their case against charging the 'teenagers' with murder....
8/24/2019 07:49:00 PM
The Revs do not want their five young people to be "incarcerated, over-charged and thrown away."
Not police but city employee. They're taking away our ability to get comp time ie time due. From now on we have to take money when working ot. Still a great job but it's only going to get worse. Still 12 years to go. FU mayor walleye
OK, sure hope nothing goes wrong with your life or body, that after 30 years a desk job might be good for you... Watch what you wish for.
3rd watch go getter has been on the west already for his first 3 years on the job
Les be honest. Mayor Walleye's fish eyes give her unparalleled vision with one eye firmly on Toni's mayhem lovin' swamp and the other on the dicks of the bad poleeeces.
This fact alone makes the groot uniquely qualified as the proverbial condom to prevent the rebirth of the great city of Chicago.
Of course, her third eye belongs to Daley for which there's no prophylactic.
What could possibly go wrong?
To the poster about the lieutenant cheating scandal. Grootd corporation counsel flaming liberal Mark Flessner and her chief of staff Rahm bo
Maurice claussen have been given tons of information on Ferguson refusing to investigate davina Ward and many other Democrats on documented corruption charges. Nothing. Lori and her staff are hypocrites and listen to Rahm to this day. The whole election was a set up and all white people are out. Her only interest is to screw the rank and file. She has also allowed pigott to stay in 001 because he does her bidding with manpower shifts from 001 to the ghetto, making the south loop and downtown increasingly unsafe.
Why she blaming police ? I thought crime was down?
Have to listened to the radio for 001 and 018. It’s a shitshow. Dudes new playground
Dr. Leonard Spock, Star Trek Crew 2070 Says:
Too much patronage and nepotism on CPD. Hire only those capable of performing police duties and functions. No more pansies who have to be sheltered on desks and offices. Groot should think about hiring back retired CPD part-time to fill inside jobs , stationary positions, desk etc. especially during summer months. These politicians can do all sorts of things but they are too lazy to actually solve problems, but would rather just throw Taxpayer Dollars at the problems and declare them fixed. Politicians are not Highly Intelligent Beings, despite what they try to lead you to believe. They mostly just coagulate in a microscopic, amoeba type universe, akin to a small fish living in a whales belly but not realizing that the whale is the one swimming in the ocean, not the small fish.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Simple fix for the CPD is take ALL desk jobs away. Put those cops on the street and replace with retired LEO's and hire office staff at 1/2 rthem going CPD rate. That way same number of cops on the street and budget cuts by 20-25% with lower cost office staff. Everybody happy but the desk dollies forced to work the streets.
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OK, sure hope nothing goes wrong with your life or body, that after 30 years a desk job might be good for you... Watch what you wish for.
8/25/2019 12:37:00 AM
About 1% of the inside jobs are being done by guys with 30 years on. Look at the front offices, CAPS, etc and you will be lucky to find one officer that has 30 years on
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Simple fix for the CPD is take ALL desk jobs away. Put those cops on the street and replace with retired LEO's and hire office staff at 1/2 rthem going CPD rate. That way same number of cops on the street and budget cuts by 20-25% with lower cost office staff. Everybody happy but the desk dollies forced to work the streets.
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OK, sure hope nothing goes wrong with your life or body, that after 30 years a desk job might be good for you... Watch what you wish for.
8/25/2019 12:37:00 AM
Simple solution. Make all the inside jobs in the CPD bid spots.
We are not allowed to strike...
8/24/2019 06:23:00 AM
I kinda thought the same thing. Who gives a shit what we are allowed to do or not allowed. Isn’t that what a strike is all about?
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They couldn't fire us all, but they certainly would move to decertify the FOP, fire and possibly jail the ring leaders that organized the strike and this would alienate the taxpayers that support us. Yup, let's go on strike, what could possibly go wrong? Maybe you could be a rocket scientist in your next career.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
We are short now as it is . OT is every weekend .
8/24/2019 12:16:00 PM
Where is this ? Only VRI for us.
She can’t put us on 12 hour shifts it’s against our contract. Why the hell are we paying all these FOP fees when they don’t stand up for us?!?!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
We are short now as it is . OT is every weekend .
8/24/2019 12:16:00 PM
Where is this ? Only VRI for us.
8/25/2019 02:46:00 PM
13,400 is short? It’s the budgeted amount of sworn
Anonymous said...
She can’t put us on 12 hour shifts it’s against our contract. Why the hell are we paying all these FOP fees when they don’t stand up for us?!?!
8/25/2019 02:46:00 PM
Teamsters are worse nothing but concessions
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