OT "Surges"
- The Chicago Police Department spent $67.6 million on overtime through the first six months of this year despite a ten-year high in manpower and an all-time high in technology.
With 13,350 sworn officers, strategic deployment centers in every district and area and shootings and homicides dropping, there appears to be no reason why police overtime can’t return to the $46 million-a-year that it was in 2011.
That’s when then-Mayor Rahm Emanuel eliminated 1,400 police vacancies and started relying on runaway overtime to mask his shrinking police department.
But records released to the Chicago Sun-Times in response to a Freedom of Information request show just the opposite.
The thing about OT is it isn't all Chicago money. There are state grants and federal grants that have to spent a certain way on certain personnel in certain areas. But we also warned the bean counters - beware of what you wish for.
Coppers are a generous lot. They volunteer. They donate time, money, sweat to all sorts of causes. And much of the time they did it for the promise of a late lunch or a courtesy duck here and there.
Was there abuse? Of course there was. There are human beings in the process, there is going to be some waste. But what was gained far outstripped the cost.
Then came swiping. Bean counters. Accountants. And what was once done for free, isn't any more.
Coppers are a generous lot. They volunteer. They donate time, money, sweat to all sorts of causes. And much of the time they did it for the promise of a late lunch or a courtesy duck here and there.
Was there abuse? Of course there was. There are human beings in the process, there is going to be some waste. But what was gained far outstripped the cost.
Then came swiping. Bean counters. Accountants. And what was once done for free, isn't any more.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
74 Comments:
13,350.....who ya crappin’? Just as time off is restricted to 10% of manpower (in 011).
The institution of the Chicago police department is almost destroyed.
I wounder what's next ?
Will we as a society like it ?
Hey FOP open your mouth and say what the actual manpower numbers are, we all know there's not 13k of us. Tweet it out like 45 does, it's time to grow a set
“....And what was once done for free, isn't any more.”
SCC, this may be one of my favorite points you’ve ever made. You couldn’t have hit it anymore on the head. Just like you said, we do it for free for an early duck or whatever. Now, they’re learning exactly how much free time we gave them every year in return for a few small perks that they no longer want us to have. Great point SCC.
Keep spending👍
Make sure you do shit for free. Consider yourself a sub contracted employee to city just like the lawyers bill for everything. So shud we.
As Vic esq. would say...”beaks got wet, it’s the Chicago way after all”.
If anybody cared to look, I'm sure the City could save 10's of thousands of dollars by nixing Rham's security detail. Word is they are making tons of OT on a past Mayor who spends most of his time out of state.
More police, but not on the street
No need to fear superhero Tommy Dart is here. The Sheriff has thousands of felons missing on EM but Superhero Dart is flying into Chicago and warned CPD they wont know when he's coming.
We already outsource our jobs to TMAs, desk admins and meter maids. We don’t need to hire more. We need more cops on the street and out of the office. Oh wait, no one wants to work the streets.
Reads like more supporting “evidence” to gas Fat Head Ed. Since crime is down and all...
Put in the slip... Nothing is free !!! Make it a Routine. This way no problems or hard feelings. The early ducks and slides are only for the chosen few. PAY me. Left the job with 2500 hrs. Still getting a check 3 years later. Cha-ching$$$$$
SCC: the rumor is that during FOP negotiations, the City has proposed requiring that Officers will identify their secondary employment times and locations. The city contends that it's in the Seattle and other department's consent decrees. Ok, so does the city lift the residency like these other departments as well? Giving officers the option to live in a place where public schools are a real option.
Waiting for the Mayor to blame the greedy members for grabbing all the IT they can get and not keepin’ the ‘tax payin’ members of the community’ safe from the increased street violence. You all need to do more for your pay or there’s gonna be a reckoning, let me tell you!
OT Toni Preckwinkle doesn't want to enforce gun laws that are already on the books, especially for her son.
And no IR number for Precious!
http://www.cwbchicago.com/2019/09/judge-finds-toni-preckwinkles-son-not.html?m=1
I am going to have to correct you, nobody who works in the finance division is doing any grants. Nobody with the exception of a few people who are in units. Trust me that is long gone as the Department supplanted so many grants that they basically can’t get any.
Democrats have to spend what they don't have. It's a DNA thing.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
I thought we were fully staffed? That’s what they keep saying. Name an employer that pays unlimited OT to their employees and cancels their days off who claims to be fully staffed. If we’re fully staffed like they say OT would be only in rare cases and court. Canceling days off is should not be happening since we have over 13,000 sworn according to the Mayor. ☠️
The merits pushing swipe, were the ones doing the most ducks
But wait we have found more money billions and billions not for the Police Pension where it should go nope this is for the friends and family program so the money can be dished out for another project before the bills are paid;
The biggest job in CTA history: $2.1 billion Red-Purple Line project starts this fall
https://www.chicagotribune.com/business/transportation/ct-biz-cta-red-purple-construction-20190905-h645ngnfy5ag5hvncoehxns2pu-story.html
Lori Is telling us that we are about $1 billion short of the budget money but yet we can do this think about this when you have a budget at your house you only have so much money to spend and that is it but as this mayor the county the most corrupt in the United States of America is skyrocketing real estate taxes they find more money for this where are the federal authorities at this is a criminal act would it be?
First we had the ballerina mayor spending billions and billions of dollars finding it everywhere in his private piggy banks all the taxpayers money now our new mayor is following the same script crying for money but yet find money how does that work?
Days off cancelled every weekend during the warmer months. More officers on the street which means more arrests which equals more court. Some of those arrests run passed checkoff which means overtime. I can’t wait for the swiping out, lunch denied? Pay me! Get a late call and have to stay passed checkoff? Pay me! Driving to the station for checkoff and see an unavoidable traffic stop? Pay me! No more sergeant’s making it up to you, now everything is being paid out.
I got on in 96, I was #271 in seniority in the old 023rd district, now 019 and 023 merge and they have a little over 200. Where are the bodies. There aren’t 13k.
13,350? All those Deputy Chiefs must have really decimated the patrol division taking bodies off the street for no work positions. More bosses= more no work positions.
Wow!
The Summer Body Count is in! And it is Lower than expected! ---- 167 and 892
https://heyjackass.com/enlightening-commentary/summer-lovin-5/
Congratulations to Chicago. You killed fewer people this Summer than last!
(But only a dozen homicide linked arrests? Really?)
With all the blogs and newspapers Rahm was naive in
thinking he could "mask" a shrinking force with O.T.
All of a sudden a regular officer is raking it in like an
executive. Would this not show up sooner or later in
vacation choices or vehicle purchases?
(Goodfellas flashback: (slapped in face) "I told you not
to buy anything new or flashy for at least a year."
"But we put the car in her mother's name"
"That won't fool them." "Take it back!")
No Republican mayor since 1934.
Entitled Democrats.
This is not a playground for the rich.
Cities in decline from coast to coast.
“Flooding the Zone” has its costs.
“The community” getting a disproportionate amount of CPD resources over non” community” areas also has costs associated with it.
When is “community” accountability and reform coming??
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey FOP open your mouth and say what the actual manpower numbers are, we all know there's not 13k of us. Tweet it out like 45 does, it's time to grow a set
No we don’t all know that. Pension Fund puts out annual reports and newsletters giving the number of sworn personnel, CLEAR list them by number. They are there, just not in the right places.
Manpower issues, how many officers work on DOJ stuff and compstat? Don't forget districts and units staff working this too.
I remember at time I donated to my agency... then I remembered how they didn't care and bent me over.
Don't donate unless a special cause for a fellow coworker or event; keep track/document everything; always check your pay... oh and go home safe!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey FOP open your mouth and say what the actual manpower numbers are, we all know there's not 13k of us. Tweet it out like 45 does, it's time to grow a set
9/06/2019 01:00:00 AM
Per the pension board annual financial report
13,438 participants as of December 31, 2018
Why do anything for free anymore? No way. The city can’t even get themselves to give us a fair contract over two years now and counting with no end in sight. They ask us to solve all the cities problems and be perfect while thumbing their nose at us. Shameful
Hey FOP open your mouth and say what the actual manpower numbers are, we all know there's not 13k of us. Tweet it out like 45 does, it's time to grow a set
9/06/2019 01:00:00 AM
Prieb too busy tweeting out stuff about the wrongful conviction movement and UFO conspiracy theorys.
We swipe in at 0530hours and swipe out at 1430 hours. 9 hour tour of duty. So be it!
Then quit cancelling my fucking days off!
It would be nice to spend a 4th of July, NYE, Labor Day, or Memorial Day with my family and friends for once.
Fuck you, pay me.
You let staffing levels fall to unsafely short levels, and crime skyrockets- and you have discovered it’s cheaper to pay existing cops OT than hire more officers AND cover their benefits, such as medical, dental, and pension contributions (lol- pension they don’t pay anyways).
You can’t cancel all our days off, and also request volunteers to work their days off- and then yell at us/criticize us for overtime levels.
GFY, dry and hard.
My DSS is trying to figure out if everyone on the desk is going to have an assigned lunch. Yah yah, I know boo hoo, the desk doesn't do shit...Until the lobby is six deep and everyone needs a traffic accident report. All of a sudden all you who are just sitting there checking facebook can do is point to a desk officer and say 'he'll help you' as you wander off. At least where I work lunch is usually eaten at the desk
so we can keep the line moving.
With swiping out, I guarantee I'll be unavailable for my 30 minutes.
Did the Cook County Police and Federal Partners have high statistics for Overtime this past Holiday Weekend?
What was the Calls for Service statistics?
What was the Arrest Numbers?
What was the Assists to CPD?
No statistics are available
Poor Accountability. Poor Management
There is no reason for the OT---just the usual scammers and foolish plans by inept bosses to flood the street with manpower as a show of strength (with no actual plan or positive result)---and if the people knew how much hanky panky went on with the OT--heads would roll.
If everybody swipes Ok, but if the abusers, I.E. headquarters, don't have to its not fair.
Some coppers detectives have already retired after being brought down for the ,"talk," and shown the videos of overtime challenges? This is ongoing and like or hate Lori she will be making examples of some coppers soon the saying is "stupid is stupid does," applies here. Not only termination, but possibly prosecution losing pension and more so in this computer age that many already know is here, your constantly being watched, don't be the next contestant on that staples "easy" button push!
Police hours up, shootings "down" and the slumtimes can't see a link there?
Hey FOP! If or when we start swiping we need to be paid for our 30 minute lunch.
Under the Jugghead-LightLoafers Joint strategic deployment war room, we had 3 unsuccessful Flood the Zone™️ bivouacs, each comprised of an additional 1,000 rag-tag, F-Troop of ne’er on the streets fillers. This sort of non-productive publicity stunt planned events (for that SpecialEd says “Doesn’t Sneak Up On Us™️“) should be paid from the GrootFoot Community Chest and not the CPD overtime budget.
Now pile on all the paper shuffling, video reviewing, vic-wit locating just to try and get a rare felony approved.
The Arrest overtime and subsequent follow up investigation should become the Country’s financial burden.
How’s the revenue stream for those Chicago Sanctuary ID’s?
They seeing any surge or any disinterest? Novelty wear off yet?
Sanctuary Legal Aid division seeing cuts to operations too?
Clueless Groot too busy with national news and fundraising.
Where’s the Rahm blame on all this?
Shoulda-Coulda voted for Vallas.
OT:
Just a friendly little reminder.... JvD is STILL incarcerated and his family is STILL without a husband and father.
Maybe, if possible, do without a single (just one) cup of coffee this week and donate the $5 or so to someone and/or their family who are suffering far beyond what most of us could even begin to imagine.
I'm not a LEO, not connected to the family, etc. - just someone who is trying to ease the suffering of a family who really got a raw deal IMHO.
Thanks and God Bless.
RonS - Glenview
All those multiple times staying for 30 and not putting in a slip . Gone. Those will add up.
Pay us a base salary that is considerable to live in this over inflated cease pool and you won’t have an overtime issue! Officers work to support a some what desirable lifestyle..
Pretty much the majority of money I made in overtime in this fucked up city went to my escrow shortage in my taxes! Really no win!
Like that U.S. Military "Surge" in whatever-country-now-that-
we've-just-about-invaded-all-of-them?
This is a speed bump. Pocket the money and jack your
benefits. You do the time, then you call off because of
fatigue. I just can't patrol like this, Sarge. I'm a danger to
myself, the men around me, and the public in general.
Click. (pages thru Marriott resorts brochure)
Desk guy: Do you really care that much what happens on your lunch? Who cares if the line is out the door? If some shithead has to wait an extra 20 minutes to get a traffic crash report, so be it. Take your damn lunch, or don’t cry about it. It’s your own fault.
I’ll tell you what......
Either keep being a good company man and working through your lunch, because I’m sure Lori appreciates you taking one for the team.
Or you can envoke your contractually guaranteed right to a 30-minute lunch- disappear from the desk, and think about something else for 30 minutes.
The same guys crying about how the union doesn’t do shit, will gladly give up their contractual right to their lunch just so dude gets an expeditious traffic crash report. Unbelievable.
Gotta keep that desk spot somehow I guess.
I doubt FOP reads these posts here; not even sure they can read at all. Maybe SCC could let us post some pictures for them?
FOP is Controlled Opposition. They make a little noise, but zero results. Their idea of "Contract Negotiations" means chipping away at PO's hard-earned compensation and coming back empty-handed.
You want OT... go to SWAT
Little bird told me the city turned that unit into OT factory
The OT fairy was good to me this period. I’ll end the period with 91 hours.... Chang Chang..... Get paid before the seasonal OT goes away.....
My DSS is trying to figure out if everyone on the desk is going to have an assigned lunch. Yah yah, I know boo hoo, the desk doesn't do shit...Until the lobby is six deep and everyone needs a traffic accident report. All of a sudden all you who are just sitting there checking facebook can do is point to a desk officer and say 'he'll help you' as you wander off. At least where I work lunch is usually eaten at the desk
so we can keep the line moving.
Is the desk a bidjob? If so and the citizens are 6 deep, who would bid for it?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I got on in 96, I was #271 in seniority in the old 023rd district, now 019 and 023 merge and they have a little over 200. Where are the bodies. There aren’t 13k.
9/06/2019 09:49:00 AM
The bodies aren’t in the districts you haven’t figured that out. You talk about 09 and 024 maybe there’s a few more in 011,007,015, etc
Anonymous Anonymous said...
13,350? All those Deputy Chiefs must have really decimated the patrol division taking bodies off the street for no work positions. More bosses= more no work positions.
Someone gets it
"...I got in in '96..."
Still a rookie. Especially if you have never worked anywhere but 019/023.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You want OT... go to SWAT
Little bird told me the city turned that unit into OT factory
9/06/2019 08:49:00 PM
Oh yeah its an OT “factory” because all they do is “manufacture” reasons to work OT.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Desk guy: Do you really care that much what happens on your lunch? Who cares if the line is out the door? If some shithead has to wait an extra 20 minutes to get a traffic crash report, so be it. Take your damn lunch, or don’t cry about it. It’s your own fault.
I’ll tell you what......
Either keep being a good company man and working through your lunch, because I’m sure Lori appreciates you taking one for the team.
Or you can envoke your contractually guaranteed right to a 30-minute lunch- disappear from the desk, and think about something else for 30 minutes.
The same guys crying about how the union doesn’t do shit, will gladly give up their contractual right to their lunch just so dude gets an expeditious traffic crash report. Unbelievable.
Gotta keep that desk spot somehow I guess.
9/06/2019 07:19:00 PM
It seems that the standard operating procedure is that the desk crew will call in a car or two to clear up the backlog at the desk.
There are usually a couple of p.o.s hanging around there all watch anyway. No one assigned to the desk goes hungry!
OT surges (other people's money) as does abortions and gay weddings. These Bolshevik & Communist are the undoing of our society.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Pretty much the majority of money I made in overtime in this fucked up city went to my escrow shortage in my taxes! Really no win!
9/06/2019 05:19:00 PM
Seems simple to me. If you no longer have an escrow shortage YOU have won!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Dart direct quote to CPD "i can go anywhere in Chicago and i dont even have to call to let them know" Then he has his brown clowns walking around hugging the citizens saying the Sheriff treats them much better
The quote was to the reporter and a stupid thing to say.
Dart does that all the time. Sounded like a 13 year old.
More ridiculous is the asshat boss out there-one of Darts main pooches.
Thats you Mike.
You are the jagoff who was trusted with MLB Credentials,
that tried squeezing your way into the Cubs World Series with your young relative.
How impressed was he with you after what happened?
And you got beefed by both CPD and Major League Baseball.
Just how far did you push it to accomplish that?
To actually get beefed?!?
Keep ripping on Dart for throwing you back to the street on occasion, Mike?
Sometimes you don’t realize who you’re shooting your big mouth off to.
You’re nothing without him.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Manpower issues, how many officers work on DOJ stuff and compstat? Don't forget districts and units staff working this too.
9/06/2019 11:47:00 AM
Hundreds , if not a thousand, citywide.
Huge drain and waste of manpower.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Pretty much the majority of money I made in overtime in this fucked up city went to my escrow shortage in my taxes! Really no win!
9/06/2019 05:19:00 PM
Seems simple to me. If you no longer have an escrow shortage YOU have won!
Someone sounds simple. So you think it’s a win if all your OT went to pay for the increase in your property taxes
Can anyone pull up and show where it says we have 13,500 Officers?? From Supt on down? With breakdown of those on iod, at call back etc? No names only the numbers
SWAT Ot is pennies compared to 211 admin Sgt 250-280 hours a period since he got there. That’s a whole lot of administrative work. It’s easy to see. It’s all online
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Can anyone pull up and show where it says we have 13,500 Officers?? From Supt on down? With breakdown of those on iod, at call back etc? No names only the numbers
Doesn’t make any difference if they are IOD, medical, callback. They are counted in the budget. Is the city supposed to replace an officer who’s on IOD or medical by hiring a new one?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Can anyone pull up and show where it says we have 13,500 Officers?? From Supt on down? With breakdown of those on iod, at call back etc? No names only the numbers
9/07/2019 09:46:00 PM
Any working copper can do it by himself. It's right there in the computer programs that you have access to. If you want to do it correctly, go to the finance page first to ensure that you have all the sworn job title codes then run each code. That will give you an exact number. Takes about half an hour but you can fill you time waiting for you car to come in by doing this. I don't want to ruin your surprise, but's it's real close to 13,500!
There is NO way CPD has 13,500 police officers. The city is full of shit as usual. Lets see the roster? We DO NOT have 13,500 police officers!
Were the fuck are all the 13,500 police officers,I sure as hell don't fuck'n see them !!!!!
I got on in 96, I was #271 in seniority in the old 023rd district, now 019 and 023 merge and they have a little over 200. Where are the bodies. There aren’t 13k
They are all at Headquarters, have you seen that parking lot. The amount of people just hidding is beyond ridiculous.
9/07/2019 09:46:00 PM
Any working copper can do it by himself. It's right there in the computer programs that you have access to. If you want to do it correctly, go to the finance page first to ensure that you have all the sworn job title codes then run each code. That will give you an exact number. Takes about half an hour but you can fill you time waiting for you car to come in by doing this. I don't want to ruin your surprise, but's it's real close to 13,500!
They don’t want the truth. Patrolmen, sgts , Ltd and retirees each have an elected pension board member Call them and ask or read the pension reports
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Were the fuck are all the 13,500 police officers,I sure as hell don't fuck'n see them !!!!!
9/08/2019 10:09:00 PM
Did you expect to see 13,500. In one place
More proof positive that if Democrats get any Taxpayer Money in their hands, they will,
#1: Steal it, #2: Waste it . #3: Steal it from those they wasted it on, #4:Waste it on those they stole it from. They are a Revolving Door of the 2 D's, Dishonesty and Dysfunction.
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