Waukegan Getting it Done
- Helipads and posh villas. Italianate fountains and dine-in movie theaters. Saltwater pools and cavernous concert halls.
And lots of slots.
They’re all included in a slate of packages being offered by a handful of developers vying for the opportunity to run a newly authorized casino in Waukegan, according to documents released by the city last week.
The north suburb received six formal proposals, though two of those bids are tied together. That means city officials are mulling five competing development plans for a gambling den, all at the site of the shuttered Fountain Square shopping center at Lakehurst Road and Northpoint Boulevard.
More and more missed opportunities. Turn the McCormick Place venue into something temporary and start working on a lakefront casino and port for boats to sail in to gamble.
Labels: money questions
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
49 Comments:
LOL... no developer in their right mind wants jack schitt to do with the Chiraqi's... No way to make any money on it. Best to go to Waukegan if you're going to stay in Illinois...
By the time Chicago gets around to building a casino the cost will have multiplied 10Xs. For the right size, number of rooms, multiple levels of gaming rooms, and other amenities, a cruise ship could be built. Dock it at Navy Pier then sail up and down the Chicago skyline. Close to eateries, lodgings, and transportation hubs would serve Chicago revenue expectations better than trying to place one so far south it will draw no people or place one in the middle of the west side where after a few robberies and murders no people will go. The novelty of a cruise on the lake will enhance the experience of a floating casino.
I agree, temporary casino at McCormack place,
and start building a Casino on the lake front! If this
mayor cannot bring in business get out! As for those
alderman or alderwomen , if you cannot bring business
to your wards..... get out !
But then they must forgo the lengthy foreplay of jockeying for power and position and deciding who steals what. Decisive, quick action to capitalize on timing without the aforementioned being settled would really upset their apple cart.
If I ever set foot in a casino, it better be a safe place in a safe area. There are too many degenerated low life criminal gamblers to deal with as it is. I don't want to have to watch my back with the locals too.
Totally agree with the Lakeside Center and bringing in boats and been saying this since the law passed. Chicago won't do ANYTHING until Madigan and a few aldercreatures get their cut.
“More and more missed opportunities. Turn the McCormick Place venue into something temporary and start working on a lakefront casino and port for boats to sail in to gamble.“
But that would take thinking and planning, and actual leadership. Chicago pols run for office to cheat and steal and run scams that will make them rich once they leave office. And every term we get a degenerate that was worse than their predecessor.
My once vital, beautiful City deteriorating into a shit stained pair of underpants...
With the spread of casinos throughout the area, why would anyone want to go to a casino in Chicago?
Especially with the crummy locations offered in the ghetto.
Sale in to gamble?
The express way are HORRIFIC this may be a great a idea...
ALl those yachts from the DELLs can come in and spend thousands.
It will be the old post office as soon as the mayor quits spending tax money on studies about putting casinos on the west side.
SCC I don't think too many people (folks) who own boats out on lake Michigan are to the type of folks (peoples) to throw money away on slot machines. That's not how you purchase and pay for a boat.
Besides...in due time the usual suspects will move in and, as they always do, will ruin everything.
Retired CFD Cappy
Doesn’t matter. Casinos are a dying phenomenon, whether it’s Atlantic City or Waukegan.
Revenues will fall drastically short of even the lowest estimates. Just like the legalized dope.
Deal us in!
There's a lot of soft corruption associated with Waukegan. See this ProPublica Illinois article: From Truck Stops to Elections, a River of Gambling Money Is Flooding Waukegan, Owners of one of Illinois’ largest video gambling companies are behind efforts to influence city politics, expand gambling and build a casino near land they control. https://www.propublica.org/article/illinois-video-gambling-waukegan-new-casino-dark-money-local-government-tap-room-gaming
Put the casino at Homan Square. The drug dealers gangsters, and welfare checks, are already pissing away all thier money in Indiana. As far as safety for tourists, let them go to Vegas. The casino is there to make money, not entertain people.
HOLD all of your horses. We're in the late-cycle
phase of casino development. I don't care what or
what they will have in Waukegan. You can only spend
after-tax discretionary income in a casino.
Markets and the economy have come too far too fast.
The Dow was @about 18K Mid-August 2015. It's now
about 8,750 points higher as of 9-6-19: 48.550% UP.
Point is, late Aug. 2015, World Sock Markets went Down
in response to Chinese Stock Mkt. Crash and yuan devaluation.
So in late Aug + Sept 2015, the Dow was very much lower
than 18K.
These good times can't last forever. Things go in cycles and
we're about to take the elevator to a lower floor.
McCormick Place is a great idea for the temporary casino. The problem is that the "Where's Mine?" might make it impossible.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Meanwhile Groot came up with 5 locations, all “community” locations, that are absolute non starters.
The definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over again yet expecting different results.
Waukegan‘s pols see the benefit for their city, Chicago’s pols are looking for the benefit for themselves.
Larry couldn’t get a one car parade organized to save herself let alone the taxpayers.
By the way, another weekend trip for her majesty.
Who in their right mind would want to drive to the ghetto to gamble you win and then you get jacked in the parking lot. I'd rather go to Wisconsin or new Buffalo or even Des Plaines if I'm desperate. Maybe Lori will Add a $50 voucher per month to their food stamps so they can go to blow it at the casino.Can't wait to move out of this shit state
This is a prime example of why Chicago is in financial ruin. City leaders drop the ball and do it wrong every single time. A downtown Chicago casino would dwarf any revenue a Waukegan Casio would generate. A downtown Chicago casino could possibly be the most successful casino in America. Especially if it were on the lake front right in the heart of the business district. Time is of the essence and once again the fools can’t grab this no-brainer and run with it.
Anonymous said...
By the time Chicago gets around to building a casino the cost will have multiplied 10Xs. For the right size, number of rooms, multiple levels of gaming rooms, and other amenities, a cruise ship could be built. Dock it at Navy Pier then sail up and down the Chicago skyline. Close to eateries, lodgings, and transportation hubs would serve Chicago revenue expectations better than trying to place one so far south it will draw no people or place one in the middle of the west side where after a few robberies and murders no people will go. The novelty of a cruise on the lake will enhance the experience of a floating casino.
9/09/2019 12:41:00 AM
A boat would be a total waste. The only way to go is with a huge majestic land based casino right in the middle of downtown. It will be easy access and convenient. The revenue would be massive.
We are all so use to Chicago politicians screwing everything up(it’s the Chicago way)that I wouldn’t doubt that Lightfoots term will be up and we still won’t have a downtown casino. She’ll then campaign on bringing a casino to Chicago. AGAIN! Is this unrealistic?
Wait until they build the Tinley Park casino....coming soon
She has turned down an offer from a retired guy who worked for the casinos.
Tons of expertise in the city, she has turned them down.
Northernly Island would be a great place for a casino. With a restaurant on an upper floor with views of the skyline. Should have happened as soon as Shortshanks destroyed the airport.
The old Mish field site. Big enough and no old buildings to tear down. Shovel ready and could be operating by early 2021.
GAMBLE - WHO NEEDS TO GAMBLE! Living in Chiraq is already a life and death gamble - and the odds aren't in your favor, neither.
1;58, exactly!!!
Anonymous said...
If I ever set foot in a casino, it better be a safe place in a safe area. There are too many degenerated low life criminal gamblers to deal with as it is. I don't want to have to watch my back with the locals too.
9/09/2019 04:55:00 AM
I suspect that some of these thugs are getting inside info on who the winners are so they can follow them home.
Using gambling to fund government is despicable!
I can't imagine what kind of gambling den it would take to drag me into Chicago. Boat gambling on the lake sounds interesting until you realize what you have to navigate through to get there. And then leave again.
We used to visit Chicago a couple times a year 20 years ago. Now no desire to ever go back.
I would never go to a Chicago casino!
As soon as you show up, you’ll pay $30 bucks to park your car!
That parking fee alone would make Indiana a cheaper trip to go!
McCormick place is being used and why use our lakefront for a casino? Not only would that waste our lakefront space (they’re not making more), it’s against the entire plan of Chicago - much older than anyone here, and older than our debt. A casino works just as well as when it’s not trashing our lakefront
What could possibly go wrong with gambling and legalized dope distribution in Chicago. We have it already here on the south and west sides. Business is good. We just need to cut into the institutionalized illegal gambling and dope business Dude, Inc. has established over the years.
The City wants their share of the dope money and gaming. Got to fix the budget deficit left by the Midget. City Hall can't get their act together on locations. Lori wanted the casino site on the south or west sides. That right there tells you all you need to know about her decision making. She's lost on how to reduce taxes and fees associated with obtaining sponsors and licenses.
More popcorn please. This is getting interesting.
Same thing going on in Rockford, Illinois. Politicians are wrangling to put the proposed casino where they, or their connected friends own property. The former site of the Clock Tower Inn adjacent to interstate 90/94 is owned by an independent group and is an ideal location. Exposure to the interstate traffic, hotels, restaurants, golf courses, easy on and off etc nearby but according to the local politicians that site is not the best place. Move it west, 10 miles off the interstate where the properties are owned by the anointed ones. What a joke. It's all politics and all about enriching the connected ones.
Every suburb that borders the city gets all the new development all while the city is loaded with vacant storefronts or non viable businesses.
It’s all a game, a Chicago casino takes money from the burbs. Don’t be surprised when the city doesn’t get one.
OT: Per A Chicago Tribune Heads-Up E-Mail Notification.
After a Twitter spat with United States Senator Ted Cruz over gun control, Mayor Lori Lightfoot has invited the Texas Republican to visit Chicago’s South and West sides.
Lightfoot said Monday she’d “love for him to walk the streets on the West Side and the South Side with me, if he really wants to do something to be helpful.”
The developers know the amount of money that Hass to be given away and payoffs it’s not worth opening a business here. For example look at the ones bustling archer Avenue business strip, it looks absolutely terrible all the businesses that are either closing or are closed so many abandon buildings yet we are represented by Mike Madigan, Eddie Burke, Martin Quinn, and a girl that has no business being at Alderman that was put there because of Mike Madigan to tabreas. All that power all those connections yet they still can’t get businesses to open their this big business play in about three years ago big neighborhood meeting on the west end of the eighth district with all the plans are the new lighting in archer Avenue all the parking sidewalk cafés on an iron on and they did absolutely positively nothing.
Lightfoot will put so many 'politically correct' limitations on a Chicago casino, we'll NEVER see the one thing that could pull this town out of the red ink we're drowning in.
With the quality of academic institutions within Illinois,
it would not surprise me that someone designs a Ph.D.
program based upon the amount of corpse chalk a PD
uses per annum. Without any internal knowledge, I
can tell you Waukegan uses less than CPD. The infamous
"Chalky" Ph.D., the once and forever ultimate tiebreaker
used in internal promotion disputes.
It’s one thing that neither ShortShanks or Rahm couldn’t put together a deal but the pugnacious toad, P.T Groot had already soured any Chicago casino with her very own proposed tax and fee hikes, especially when there was a mandatory the sharing of the wealth clause of underserved community reinvestment.
LightLoafers is to casino gaming as AOC was to Amazon.
Neither has the time to learn about governance and even less about listening, but experts at it comes to spouting off at the revenue sources.
Sanctuary First.
Boot the Grööt
4:55:00 AM
Degenerated: The SCC word of the day!
You got your degenerates (which have degenerated down
from normal status) and the degenerated low life criminals
which is one step lower than degenerates. They have gone
down that extra step and like a nuclear isotope, they have
decayed.
and chicago gets a 9 billion dollar terminal at Ohara.
Waukegan: There's a webpage for words that rhyme with
W. But I'm too tired to make up rhymes and they stopped
paying me a long time ago.
Car Talk: When both brothers were still alive,
one would often say that he could not help but notice
that shady mechanics almost always had boats.
So a trip to an unscrupulous mechanic was always referred
to as a "boat payment."
The frenzy over these casinos is just that, a frenzy.
We're building a lot of white elephants in the name of
providing employment for the trades. Just as you can't
borrow your way to prosperity, we can't create artificial
demand for labor and expect that to result in lasting gains.
The neon signs of bars becon the alcoholics with soft,
warm glows. Some are sharp and harsh, but so is the bar.
Point is you have to advertise, and the smart owners make
the drinkers pay for those signs and the electricity bills.
In Vegas, the losers keep the lights on. They always have.
Why not put the casino in the closed Target store on the south side. It’s big enough for a thousand one armed bandits
hey 6:57 good luck sale-ing in on a yacht from the dells to gamble. uh maybe check one of those road map thingys, the dells are on a river in central wisc and dont connect to lake michigan. there fore no yachts and no sale-ing lol
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