Check your VRI Check
Remember, swiping isn't attached to payroll.....unless....:
- I was told by two PO's who say they have First Hand Knowledge that the Commander for VRI, "Crystal-King Smith" is "Not Approving Overtime" worked by Any officers who she discovers has either Failed to Swipe Out, or who does so any earlier than 0023 hrs. even though your Sgt. may have already Approved the Overtime...
Apparently some PO's have been affected by this?
You'd have to be a real idiot to be ducking out of a time-and-one-half gig, but you have to love how someone like CKS is suddenly a rule-follower, following rules that aren't even in existence, to the detriment of officers getting paid on time without even a cursory investigation.
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
109 Comments:
Sounds like a hostile workplace. Retaliation and punitive measures not approved by contract/anything? Gold mine.
You don’t have to worry about swiping for VRI if you never sign up for VRI.
This is absolutely true! Her only job is to approve VRI OT, she throws a fit when Lieutenants in District of Assignment approve it. She is an unhappy hidden person!
Well I swiped in @ 1553 on o9 oct 2019 and swiped out at 1224 0n 10, pand mine is stilled not approved
either way, one is still obligated to get paid for their time. Cut the bs until the system is in place and works. easy fi is refuse to work v.r.i. i haven't done a day. and guess what, they cant even staff my watch with enough beat cars. Now who helped contribute to that. I know it is still their fault and dont agree with being hourly, but o.t. sounds like a fair compromise to only use the time clock.
whats the point of a sergeants? we have gps, cameras and now the time clock, supervision plus checkoff is covered electronically. Maybe since the sergeants are still police officers, they can help handle the rap.
CKS is a boob.
She's the Camel-la Harris of the CPD.
Tell her to walk back to the desert and get her camel if she’s lonely.
WTF
Actually she is not approving slips if there is any kind of typo or mistake. She is also not approving the slip of your supervisor that night. She doesn’t tell you what she did or why she did it. She also doesn’t respond to emails. I’m a sgt and I’ve stopped working VRI because I can’t take her bullshit anymore.
Not a matter of ducking out on a time an half gig but leaving when my equipment had been collected leaving me radio less if something were to happen as I wait around to swipe. There isnt really a place to hangout and wait in 11 besides your car outside in the unsecured parking lots where anyone could ambush your communication-less in uniform self. If they didnt approve your slip then they better have done that across the board which means there would have been a lot of POs complaining
She is 63 in March and have your own CO approve it !
Good, I’m glad. Hopefully this is true. I’m sick of seeing all the cops at VRI saying, “fuck this I’m leaving I ain’t swiping.” Or the cops that swipe out early saying “It’s not tied to payroll so I don’t care.” While the rest of us go by the rules and stay the full tour and swipe. There’s also a whole bunch that swipe out in the district by their homes(violation of the order)The other day there had to be less than 40 swiping out. What a joke. Sure would be nice if they reward the cops that do what the order says and reward them with an extra day of VRI. Otherwise if there’s no consequences then people will just keep scamming.
Different rules for different folks is alive and well at VRI. All the entitled people ducking out while the others swipe out and stay the full shift like we’re suppose to. It’s gotta be less than half swiping out with the rest of us lately. Hopefully they all get slapped.
Check the OT on clearnet. There are multiple OT reports in rejected status by CKS with comments about swipe reports that do not correlate. Just an heads up, she's also seeing where people are swiping out at. If it isn't 011, she's not approving.
OT. I’ll tell u what’s wrong with the FOP representing us... they are policeman. They still have to follow general orders etc. if we had an outside person/entity representing us that we paid for they wouldn’t have the fears that our current regime had and could really get out there and say and do thing without fear of employment repercussions. The FOP is fighting with 2 hands tied behind their backs. What’s happens if they lose the next election? They’re back on a beat car somewhere. U think they’re going to fight their asses off against a city knowing that same very city controls their future work environment and job opportunities? It has become totally evident that we need representation from an outside source. The experiment of Policeman with no labor training or union background moonlighting as union leaders has failed.
The bosses are the biggest time abusers of all
Cops are the biggest meatheads for not wanting to swipe out. Own worst enemy.
I call BS on the POs story .. the
Department is more interested in giving you a spar than aetting up a violation that cost them twice as much in $
FYI
FLSA Overtime Calculator Advisor
Suffer or Permit to Work
The FLSA defines the term "employ" to include the words "suffer or permit to work". Suffer or permit to work means that if an employer requires or allows employees to work, the time spent is generally hours worked.
Isn’t she the person I saw on the Chicago Police Department’s “Does Your Appearance Command Respect” poster?
1 thing I have known in my 30 years as a copper is that the worst rule watching bossholes were the biggest fucking scammers and rule breakers when they were a blue shirt.
Crystal king the commander of VRI. This unit was previously run by a lt. but now a commander making double the previous salary. Although you do need to find an easy spot for a complete idiot! No wonder the pension is going broke!
She has to retire next year at 63!
Good riddance to this cockroach!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Not a matter of ducking out on a time an half gig but leaving when my equipment had been collected leaving me radio less if something were to happen as I wait around to swipe. There isnt really a place to hangout and wait in 11 besides your car outside in the unsecured parking lots where anyone could ambush your communication-less in uniform self. If they didnt approve your slip then they better have done that across the board which means there would have been a lot of POs complaining
10/28/2019 01:24:00 AM
Come on, that is a weak argument. You don’t have to sit in the parking lot and wait until it’s time to leave. You can wait in a “secure” 011 district where there are many armed police officers like yourself. There is a lunch room with vending machines, tables and chairs, steps away from the radio room in 011 to wait until you want to swipe out. WTF, feel like we work with a bunch of children.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Good, I’m glad. Hopefully this is true. I’m sick of seeing all the cops at VRI saying, “fuck this I’m leaving I ain’t swiping.” Or the cops that swipe out early saying “It’s not tied to payroll so I don’t care.” While the rest of us go by the rules and stay the full tour and swipe. There’s also a whole bunch that swipe out in the district by their homes(violation of the order)The other day there had to be less than 40 swiping out. What a joke. Sure would be nice if they reward the cops that do what the order says and reward them with an extra day of VRI. Otherwise if there’s no consequences then people will just keep scamming.
Unfortunately the city shouldn’t have even implemented swiping without first negotiating with the lodge. CPD is salaried, not hourly. So unfortunately your little rant only screams that you either A.) Are a kiss up who would throw your partner under the bus for a uniform violation, B.) Are willfully ignorant and blindly follow orders without any kind of care, or C.) both.
Learn the contract and your labor laws before you blindly defend the department. Trust me, they won’t return the favor to you.
I worked with her in 007, she is not a nice person and treats everyone the same way; horribly.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Good, I’m glad. Hopefully this is true. I’m sick of seeing all the cops at VRI saying, “fuck this I’m leaving I ain’t swiping.” Or the cops that swipe out early saying “It’s not tied to payroll so I don’t care.” While the rest of us go by the rules and stay the full tour and swipe. There’s also a whole bunch that swipe out in the district by their homes(violation of the order)The other day there had to be less than 40 swiping out. What a joke. Sure would be nice if they reward the cops that do what the order says and reward them with an extra day of VRI. Otherwise if there’s no consequences then people will just keep scamming.
10/28/2019 03:20:00 AM
What a toe the line pussy. Either a boss or a sorry excuse for a beat cop
Hahah don’t work VRI and you won't have a problem. If you do work it just swipe in and out at the designated times, stop being the typical meathead cop.
whats the point of a sergeants? we have gps, cameras and now the time clock, supervision plus checkoff is covered electronically. Maybe since the sergeants are still police officers, they can help handle the rap
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The sergeants job is to make sure you're not doing stick ups or raping drunk women on duty.
We have to many coppers with IQs under 70.
Anonymous said...
OT. I’ll tell u what’s wrong with the FOP representing us... they are policeman. They still have to follow general orders etc. if we had an outside person/entity representing us that we paid for they wouldn’t have the fears that our current regime had and could really get out there and say and do thing without fear of employment repercussions. The FOP is fighting with 2 hands tied behind their backs. What’s happens if they lose the next election? They’re back on a beat car somewhere. U think they’re going to fight their asses off against a city knowing that same very city controls their future work environment and job opportunities? It has become totally evident that we need representation from an outside source. The experiment of Policeman with no labor training or union background moonlighting as union leaders has failed.
10/28/2019 04:25:00 AM
Fop more a tool of establishment Chicago politics , not voice of those cpd working the streets.. look at the safety hazard of reporting Officers Monday, sitting in a CTA bus at 5.00am , some with little sleep .... nary a word out of mouth from Fop
CKS is a special kind of stupid.
Enjoy bending over coward
Good, I’m glad. Hopefully this is true. I’m sick of seeing all the cops at VRI saying, “fuck this I’m leaving I ain’t swiping.” Or the cops that swipe out early saying “It’s not tied to payroll so I don’t care.” While the rest of us go by the rules and stay the full tour and swipe. There’s also a whole bunch that swipe out in the district by their homes(violation of the order)The other day there had to be less than 40 swiping out. What a joke. Sure would be nice if they reward the cops that do what the order says and reward them with an extra day of VRI. Otherwise if there’s no consequences then people will just keep scamming
Not even that. It's that these idiots can't even fill out a slip right. Put vri in the box that's all. But you don't do that and your slip gets held up. Your mom is not here to fill your slip children. Man up.
Anonymous said...
Not a matter of ducking out on a time an half gig but leaving when my equipment had been collected leaving me radio less if something were to happen as I wait around to swipe. There isnt really a place to hangout and wait in 11 besides your car outside in the unsecured parking lots where anyone could ambush your communication-less in uniform self. If they didnt approve your slip then they better have done that across the board which means there would have been a lot of POs complaining
10/28/2019 01:24:00 AM
Just hang around and guard the swipe machine
Anonymous Anonymous said...
whats the point of a sergeants? we have gps, cameras and now the time clock, supervision plus checkoff is covered electronically. Maybe since the sergeants are still police officers, they can help handle the rap.
You would think that this should be the case, however you forgot to mention coppers young and old will not make a decision on their own. They call for a supervisor every time they have to make an arrest these days. I known I know Everybody is second guessing their actions and they ain’t doing shit. I’m not saying you have to go out there and do stops and be proactive but you do have to respond to your jobs and take police action. It’s going to be a long 20 plus years for a lot of you. Might want to rethink that job with Amazon or Costco.
I’m no fan of the Supt. but c’mon. Murray is on FOX speaking like he has marbles in his mouth. He’s discussing the Presidential visit and the Supt’s boycott. He clumsily added the Supt. slumped over the wheel. Grow up. You’re on national television. You guys may wish you had Johnson back.
Swipe in and swipe out !!!!!!!!
Grieve it. They have to pay you. Not swiping is a discipline issue, they cannot withold pay. Nobody has ever been disciplined for not swiping. CKS is an overpromoted idiot.
Why does she care?? She’s 62 years old go away already. Please
Crystal King-Smith another one of the ridiculous merit picks happening under FatHeadEd’s watch.
Groot needs to launch Ed and drain the swamp.
It’s a contract violation, they can not be denied OT. Payroll in CFD tried this. They can not. File your grievances.
But these merit hack exempts routinely show up late, leave early, disappear for hours, slump behind wheels.
All the bosses suddenly find religion when the suckass Jugghaid SpecialEd has to give GrootFoot a monthly savings report.
Some Sgt try and toss the crew a bone and a hysterical loon starts to throw shit around.
Although there are many who for some unknown reason must get that 5 minute duck-jump and be first out the doer after any tour, anywhere. Never understood that determined effort to rush out and get somewheres else. Too little thought about personal schedules constraints maybe.
The A&A’s and Time Cards always need to be personally reviewed time to time too.
Getting docked is one thing, getting denied and held up altogether is a grievance.
Getting docked for 15 min here and there can easily be made up somewhere, maybe even already made up somehow last month.
Don’t fret the the little stuff.
******
OT - 1100hrs WLS - Just heard President Donald J Trump called out SpecialEd at the IACP...
“He should be here...maybe he’d learn something.”
There was a good hardy laugh from the attendees!
I don’t see how anyone can cry about this. The order says you must swipe in and out at all times at your unit of assignment It’s been told to us dozens of times. The order doesn’t say, “the rules don’t apply to the special” It’s about time the rules are enforced(hopefully) but the history of the CPD is a two tiered system of rules. They ones not complying with the order should be banned from VRI. We’ll see.
If I was Eddie Johnson, I would leave tons.
Your suppose to swipe out. No sympathy here. You think anyone in the private sector has any sympathy for us.
As a Lt, I have been chewed out by her many times for approving slips that she rejects and doesn't inform the officers about. I just don't care what she thinks. If you worked it, you get it. Enough of being petty
Awe, that’s a shame for the poor people that just couldn’t go by the rules while the rest of us did. Such a hard thing to do staying for the shift you’re paid for. Entitled
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Sounds like a hostile workplace. Retaliation and punitive measures not approved by contract/anything? Gold mine.
10/28/2019 12:07:00 AM
Gold mine? A real winner here. Call a lawyer and tell him you want to sue because you didn’t swipe out at the end of your tour, although other officer do. He’ll be jumping with joy knowing he’s going to get 1/3 of your gold mine
CKS is another reason Ed doesn’t deserve any slack. She is about a year away from mandatory retirement, yet concerns herself with pettiness. What would be her detriment to just approving the OT? Nothing. She is constantly rewarded for malfeasance, just like Bangles. This department needs an enema.
This job just in general cracks me. I never got promoted because I was busy running my side business but I always laughed at the guys who all said "This is BS and if I make SGT then X, Y, Z..."
Shit attitudes about this policy and that policy and the department sucks, etc.. Then all of a sudden a SGTs exam rolls around and the results come out and P.O. XYZ is all of sudden coming on time to roll calls, new uniforms and now all of a sudden relates to the G.O.s and other rules. Then you learn they scored low 200s on the exam. So now it's all legit since they are going to make it, lol.
Hey 320am. You are an asshat.
0425 AM true. How can we change this? Assemble a non police team after a vote to allow this?
Our great President Donald Trump versus the pissant these are the headlines Eddie you’re an embarrassment and a coward;
When Trump talks about Chicago, we track it: 'I want Eddie Johnson to change his values and change them fast'
In Chicago, President Donald Trump delivers blistering attack on city’s police Superintendent Eddie Johnson and gun violence at cop convention
So now Mr. fan or maybe you can go home take your sorry ass lay down open up that whiskey bottle up drink some down and have your cheating wife rub your feet you’ve been served
I’m a Sergeant and I swipe out at VRI. I tell the P.O.’s that work for me you need to swipe out here (011), it’s not my job to watch them but shame on them if they don’t. I’m getting paid!
Anonymous said...
You don’t have to worry about swiping for VRI if you never sign up for VRI.
Are you Bragging or Complaining?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Cops are the biggest meatheads for not wanting to swipe out. Own worst enemy.
10/28/2019 05:12:00 AM
Who would be stupid enough making time and 1/2 to cheat the system and leaver early ruining it for other coppers that need that cash? If your not there you should no be paid simple as that! the detectives are griping now that they have finally been told to swipe that is the biggest 'duck," unit in the entire city1
Off topic :
I was flipping through the bull shit FOP magazine and I saw a picture of 015th district officers “working the phones”, so the good citizens are reminded their children are supposed to go to school. So instead of working the streets they’re doing that?? Are you fucking kidding me? That’s part of our job description now. Fuck the leaders of 015 and those ass holes who probably volunteered to do that. More officers on the street huh? Face to face roll call? Does that mean the next watch has to meet by the phones and discuss how the day went?
Absolute bull shit
I think every cop on this job smiled today during the presidents speech. Someone, anyone, finally gave us a voice and said out loud our problems. Terrible leadership at the top end and a system who cares more about the criminals than the hard working citizens. Bravo, sir.
Off topic ..Big shout out to 45 for blasting Hennessy Johnson today at the conference. The applause was overwhelming. If only our local pols and our very own supe would support us like POTUS , this wouldn’t be such a shit job these days.
(OT) The mayor says take this you scoundrel’s for far too long you have not been putting enough into your pension look over here ha ha;
Lightfoot’s 2020 budget requires $60 million pension reimbursement from CPS
https://chicago.suntimes.com/city-hall/2019/10/28/20936377/lightfoot-2020-budget-pension-reimbursement-chicago-public-schools-teachers-strike
Another surprise for the social justice warriors out there what is in the mayor put that no straight clause in the contract immediately, then order them all back to work and if they refuse order them to be terminated they are losing their health insurance effective November 1 will see how the gravel to get back into good graces with the mayor.
AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT. I’ll tell u what’s wrong with the FOP representing us... they are policeman. They still have to follow general orders etc. if we had an outside person/entity representing us that we paid for they wouldn’t have the fears that our current regime had and could really get out there and say and do thing without fear of employment repercussions. The FOP is fighting with 2 hands tied behind their backs. What’s happens if they lose the next election? They’re back on a beat car somewhere. U think they’re going to fight their asses off against a city knowing that same very city controls their future work environment and job opportunities? It has become totally evident that we need representation from an outside source. The experiment of Policeman with no labor training or union background moonlighting as union leaders has failed.
10/28/2019 04:25:00 AM
You are only half right. Once you are assigned to the FOP unit 541, you are free to say whatever you want. Any complaints would have to wait till you came back to your original unit. I am told they are not even subject to random drug or blowing.
There is ZERO excuse to not speak up except for the fact kiss asses have held the top spot forever. They protect their own asses so that they land softly when they get voted out. How pays? The members every time. When is the last time anyone up there ever received any real suspension time? Most have been taken care of their whole career.
John Catanzara 008
San Francisco cop plays and wins the ghetto lottery - $20M for hurt feelings!:
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Jury-awards-nearly-20-million-to-police-sergeant-14567748.php
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Good, I’m glad. Hopefully this is true. I’m sick of seeing all the cops at VRI saying, “fuck this I’m leaving I ain’t swiping.” Or the cops that swipe out early saying “It’s not tied to payroll so I don’t care.” While the rest of us go by the rules and stay the full tour and swipe. There’s also a whole bunch that swipe out in the district by their homes(violation of the order)The other day there had to be less than 40 swiping out. What a joke. Sure would be nice if they reward the cops that do what the order says and reward them with an extra day of VRI. Otherwise if there’s no consequences then people will just keep scamming.
10/28/2019 03:20:00 AM
What a toe the line pussy. Either a boss or a sorry excuse for a beat cop
10/28/2019 08:10:00 AM
So doing something as simple as working the hours you’re paid for is a “toe the line pussy” You’d never make it in the private sector. Hopefully you’re not a parent.
VRI check is good
What’s not good is this clown, Supt. Johnson !!
While most of us had to work with little sleep to
ensure the safety of the President’s Visit our
phony Top Cop is well rested and surrounded himself
with his hand picked Incompetent merit hacks to give
a statement to the media about he’s doing a good job?
What a joke to blow smoke over his DUI
Love Lori
Anonymous Jiminy Cricket said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Good, I’m glad. Hopefully this is true. I’m sick of seeing all the cops at VRI saying, “fuck this I’m leaving I ain’t swiping.” Or the cops that swipe out early saying “It’s not tied to payroll so I don’t care.” While the rest of us go by the rules and stay the full tour and swipe. There’s also a whole bunch that swipe out in the district by their homes(violation of the order)The other day there had to be less than 40 swiping out. What a joke. Sure would be nice if they reward the cops that do what the order says and reward them with an extra day of VRI. Otherwise if there’s no consequences then people will just keep scamming.
Unfortunately the city shouldn’t have even implemented swiping without first negotiating with the lodge. CPD is salaried, not hourly. So unfortunately your little rant only screams that you either A.) Are a kiss up who would throw your partner under the bus for a uniform violation, B.) Are willfully ignorant and blindly follow orders without any kind of care, or C.) both.
Learn the contract and your labor laws before you blindly defend the department. Trust me, they won’t return the favor to you.
10/28/2019 08:01:00 AM
Best of luck Mr. Cricket! Keep doing what you’re doing and then fighting for years to get paid only to have an arbitrator rule in favor of the city. When all you had to do was wait 30 mins and swipe out. Enjoy
OT- While I agree with just about everything 45 had to say today and totally disagree with the Supt.’s decision not to attend, I will say hats off to EJ for the way he handled himself in the press conference after.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Good, I’m glad. Hopefully this is true. I’m sick of seeing all the cops at VRI saying, “fuck this I’m leaving I ain’t swiping.” Or the cops that swipe out early saying “It’s not tied to payroll so I don’t care.” While the rest of us go by the rules and stay the full tour and swipe. There’s also a whole bunch that swipe out in the district by their homes(violation of the order)The other day there had to be less than 40 swiping out. What a joke. Sure would be nice if they reward the cops that do what the order says and reward them with an extra day of VRI. Otherwise if there’s no consequences then people will just keep scamming.
10/28/2019 03:20:00 AM
No consequences? These policeez now have to jump through hoops to get their cash. If anything these guys will be denied VRI down the road. You my friend will not be getting extra for doing what you are supposed to do.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not claiming to be totally correct. The FOP never agreed or negotiated this swipe policy. It was just implemented citywide without their input after a pilot program, which didn't keep accurate swiping percentages, finished . So any boss that wants to discipline you, in any capacity, should be met with a grievance. I know that situation is dicey. No one wants to name a boss. 100% understandable. And like it was mentioned in other comments, this new policy is not tied to payroll. If the Dept wants to tie it to payroll then all overtime, in which you swipe out, is pensionable. A couple cities already won those lawsuits regarding the swiping out on overtime. So if this policy gets into our next contract then our beloved Union should start the lawsuit for that now pensionable earnings.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Enjoy bending over coward
Good, I’m glad. Hopefully this is true. I’m sick of seeing all the cops at VRI saying, “fuck this I’m leaving I ain’t swiping.” Or the cops that swipe out early saying “It’s not tied to payroll so I don’t care.” While the rest of us go by the rules and stay the full tour and swipe. There’s also a whole bunch that swipe out in the district by their homes(violation of the order)The other day there had to be less than 40 swiping out. What a joke. Sure would be nice if they reward the cops that do what the order says and reward them with an extra day of VRI. Otherwise if there’s no consequences then people will just keep scamming
10/28/2019 08:33:00 AM
Sooooo, breaking the rules and not working the shift we’re paid for is being “brave?” Wow You’re a bit soft.
As a Lt, I have been chewed out by her many times for approving slips that she rejects and doesn't inform the officers about. I just don't care what she thinks. If you worked it, you get it. Enough of being petty
Well Boss, maybe stop approving your VRI buddies’ timecards. It would be THEFT anywhere else in the world. STAY THE FULL TOUR LIKE THE REST OF US!
Hey Lemmer quit commenting on the blog and count your beans and swipe the fk out! The
He was talking about you Fat Head not the rank and file. He specifically called YOU be name many times. We all know why you were not there you were AFRAID to hear the truth. The fact that the other Chiefs were clapping over YOU being called out was very telling. You my friend are a total embarrassment to your profession. Not even sure you have what it takes to be a department store security guard. Sorry that was an insult to all hard working security guards out there.
I like the way the Media is spinning the Prez comments to say “President Trump criticized the Chicago Police Department” making it sound like he was talking about the officers doing the work. He was VERY specific to call out the Supt on HIS lack of leadership and to praise the rank and file officers that do a great job day in and out.
WHATS the matter GROOT the Presidential truth hurt? He just told it like it is. To bad your being to the obvious.
“You are only half right. Once you are assigned to the FOP unit 541, you are free to say whatever you want. Any complaints would have to wait till you came back to your original unit. I am told they are not even subject to random drug or blowing.
There is ZERO excuse to not speak up except for the fact kiss asses have held the top spot forever. They protect their own asses so that they land softly when they get voted out. How pays? The members every time. When is the last time anyone up there ever received any real suspension time? Most have been taken care of their whole career.
John Catanzara 008“
Johnny your biggest fan is a woman from Evergreen Park who threatens to sue people when she doesn’t get her way. So far, she’s sued the school across the street from her house and for that, her family got some money from the diocese but she can’t even send her kids to school there. She also pulled the same stunt with another school. And her husband refused to stop mowing his grass when asked politely for a funeral across from their house. Her husband then called the EP police to try and file a complaint against an off-duty Sheriff’s Deputy attending the funeral. He claimed he threatened him. It should be noted that the funeral was for the daughter of an Illinois State Trooper. She’s also made insidious claims local officials in neighboring jurisdictions, none of which she is a resident of. She has open investigations with CPS, and supposedly the Feds, for ongoing “corruption” in towns where she doesn’t reside. She is also involved in some other things in her town, solely because she didn’t get her way.
You ought to be careful who you align yourself with.
“CPD is salaried, not hourly.“
Really? Then you shouldn’t EVER be paid overtime - because salaried employees don’t get overtime. Maybe a performance bonus or other bonus, but not an hourly bonus.
Hope all you gold stars backing Eddie Johnson in his press conference today will wake up tomorrow morning and feel good about your merit hack career. Have you NO SHAME? Is your spot on the top equivalent to selling your soul? Know you have lost so much respect from the troops you represent.
It will be a great day for the department when she’s forced to retire
You work, you get paid-that’s the law
A complete disgrace not having the superintendent at the Chief's convention representing our Officer who was shot in a line of duty or representing our department as a whole. And having the entire command staff stand behind him on his decision is more disgraceful. This is why us STREET cops don't trust you exempts. You turned to the politicians. You are no longer one of us.
Everyone that I've known with a hyphenated name is a liberal unhinged leftist. They hate themselves and want everyone else to be as miserable as themselves.
San Francisco cop plays and wins the ghetto lottery - $20M for hurt feelings!:
https://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Jury-awards-nearly-20-million-to-police-sergeant-14567748.php
10/28/2019 04:09:00 PM
Reading is fundamental. The copper is not from San Francisco, he's from St. Louis County Missouri. Second he ranked thrid on the list for promotion and was passed over 24 times.
She got bounced out of every single unit she was put “in charge” of as a commander. Every. Single. One. Then they MADE UP a spot for her, told her to stfu and go away quietly. Nope. She’s gotta have something to feel important about. Such a pathetic person.
"Unfortunately the city shouldn’t have even implemented swiping without first negotiating with the lodge. CPD is salaried, not hourly."
Uh, CPD is hourly. That is why OT and time off is in hour increments. We get paid by the hour.
nonymous Anonymous said...
OT. I’ll tell u what’s wrong with the FOP representing us... they are policeman. They still have to follow general orders etc. if we had an outside person/entity representing us that we paid for they wouldn’t have the fears that our current regime had and could really get out there and say and do thing without fear of employment repercussions. The FOP is fighting with 2 hands tied behind their backs. What’s happens if they lose the next election? They’re back on a beat car somewhere. U think they’re going to fight their asses off against a city knowing that same very city controls their future work environment and job opportunities? It has become totally evident that we need representation from an outside source. The experiment of Policeman with no labor training or union background moonlighting as union leaders has failed.
10/28/2019 04:25:00 AM
You are only half right. Once you are assigned to the FOP unit 541, you are free to say whatever you want. Any complaints would have to wait till you came back to your original unit. I am told they are not even subject to random drug or blowing.
There is ZERO excuse to not speak up except for the fact kiss asses have held the top spot forever. They protect their own asses so that they land softly when they get voted out. How pays? The members every time. When is the last time anyone up there ever received any real suspension time? Most have been taken care of their whole career.
John Catanzara 008
Big John we the CPD need you to run for election please. You might be our last hope. We’ve never met but I’ve seen what you’ve done and you’re exactly what we need at the hall
I remember in 003 when Crystal King Smith has the bright idea of starting a foot patrol at 71st and Jeffrey. Only lasted a day though, right after the officer involved shooting. Who would’ve thought one of the worst corners in Chicago with a neighborhood who absolutely hates the police. She’s a Total embarrassment to the department and the uniform
The President gave the Supt. a west-side bitch slap on national TV.
Actually, VRI has been run by a Sergeant for the last 1.5-2 years after a retirement....All of you who are bitching about leaving early and swiping......You KNOW it will not be around after this, right? If anyone can show the coppers working it do not stay the entire tour they will get rid of it in a heartbeat and have PPO's work window details again...
I personally think it is colossal WASTE OF MONEY, but am going to laugh my ass off when all you lazy good for nothing jagoffs who have nothing better to do than bitch lose your gravy train. Great job dickwads!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Crystal king the commander of VRI. This unit was previously run by a lt. but now a commander making double the previous salary. Although you do need to find an easy spot for a complete idiot! No wonder the pension is going broke!
10/28/2019 07:47:00 AM
Get a CR# on her
Why does VRI even still exist? They are all hiding in hotels and restaurants. How many arrests have they made in the last 5 years on the lakefront and Michigan Ave?
Since wen does she follow any rules? She should have been fired for stealing tax payers money. She slept half of her tour when she was the desk Sgt in 007 and snored like crazy!!! I’ll try to find the pictures their in my old phone and I will up load them when I do for all of you !!!!!!!!!
FOIA her city vehicle , cell phone GPS records
Uh, CPD is hourly. That is why OT and time off is in hour increments. We get paid by the hour.
10/28/2019 10:06:00 PM
You never wondered why you get same check every 1st and 16th despite working a different amount of hours?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Get a CR# on her
10/29/2019 04:39:00 AM
Hmm CR for accountability because some idiots cannot stay the full tour and will ruin another good thing for other coppers? asshat!
Uh, CPD is hourly. That is why OT and time off is in hour increments. We get paid by the hour
CPD is a hybrid of salary and hourly.
You have a BASE salary based on seniority.
Add to that uniform allowance and duty pay.
Add to THAT any DAILY hours worked beyond your regularly scheduled hours is time and a half.
In the private sector as a salaried employee you do not get OT for hours worked beyond legally sanctioned hours, you get bonuses...or commissions....or company percs based upon where you work.
Basically you are compensated.
As we are.
Only differently.
Anonymous said...
"Unfortunately the city shouldn’t have even implemented swiping without first negotiating with the lodge. CPD is salaried, not hourly."
Uh, CPD is hourly. That is why OT and time off is in hour increments. We get paid by the hour.
10/28/2019 10:06:00 PM
You're an idiot. OVERTIME is by the hour. Salaries are salaried. That's why is called....a salary.
Why does VRI even still exist? They are all hiding in hotels and restaurants. How many arrests have they made in the last 5 years on the lakefront and Michigan Ave?
Get Some Time On The Job Kid.
You never wondered why you get same check every 1st and 16th despite working a different amount of hours?
10/29/2019 03:04:00 PM
Say it one more time for the people in the back please! I love how people don’t know labor laws, let alone their own contact. It’s called the Fair Labor Standards Act. Thats why we get paid an hourly rate for overtime at time and a half. The short and simple of it is that salary employees, unless specifically bargained/specified are entitled to time and a half pay at an hourly rate in excess of 40 hours worked per work week. That’s why there’s different hours on different pay checks to even it out. The city can’t do that with legit OT though.
So for those thinking we are hourly...again READ YOUR CONTRACT and LEARN YOUR JOB!
Oh and for the ass hat who keeps getting sensitive over being called out for saying this:
“Good, I’m glad. Hopefully this is true. I’m sick of seeing all the cops at VRI saying, “fuck this I’m leaving I ain’t swiping.” Or the cops that swipe out early saying “It’s not tied to payroll so I don’t care.” While the rest of us go by the rules and stay the full tour and swipe. There’s also a whole bunch that swipe out in the district by their homes(violation of the order)The other day there had to be less than 40 swiping out. What a joke. Sure would be nice if they reward the cops that do what the order says and reward them with an extra day of VRI. Otherwise if there’s no consequences then people will just keep scamming”
Get your head out of your ass! Sure follow the rules so you don’t have the headache of dealing with bosses enforcing an unjust directive. However don’t shit on the coppers that are taking a stand in their own way to voice that they aren’t going to quietly accept the department doing whatever the fuck they want because our union refuses to bare its fangs and protect its members. Stand with them, or support them in silence, but don’t you ever stab them in the back because you blindly follow bosses like some kind of kiss ass. Believe me bud, whether you’re a rookie or vet, get this delusion that any boss above a LT has your back. Trust me, they don’t. It’s as rare as a four leaf clover to get a captain or above who will back you up and stand with you nowadays.
When are you people going to realize how ridiculous you are making all of us look by complaining you have to stay and work the entire time you are being paid for? Shut up already. Yes, I know everyone isnt playing fair. Does that mean we should all BS as well?
I bet its the same people that never leave the van. Seriously, you people are a joke. What happened to Work ethic? Have some pride for Christ sake!!
If swiping affects payroll, overtime should be pensionable since we will be hourly employees, not salary.
10/30/2019 12:15:00 AM
Jiminy Cricket said...
You never wondered why you get same check every 1st and 16th despite working a different amount of hours?
10/29/2019 03:04:00 PM
Say it one more time for the people in the back please! I love how people don’t know labor laws, let alone their own contact. It’s called the Fair Labor Standards Act. Thats why we get paid an hourly rate for overtime at time and a half. The short and simple of it is that salary employees, unless specifically bargained/specified are entitled to time and a half pay at an hourly rate in excess of 40 hours worked per work week. That’s why there’s different hours on different pay checks to even it out. The city can’t do that with legit OT though.
So for those thinking we are hourly...again READ YOUR CONTRACT and LEARN YOUR JOB!
You are an hourly employee. You think it sounds fancy or makes you important to be called salary, but you are not. Over the 28 police period, allowed by FLSA, you work the amount of hours listed on your paystub, or exchange time due or contractual days off in lieu of working that time. If you are out of comp time or days off, your pay is reduced on a PER HOUR basis representative of the amount of time you took off. You are paid or compensated for every hour you worked and your pay or accrued time is reduced for every hour below 171 in the period you take off. If you were truly a salaried employee, the restrictions on when you swipe in and out (+/- 7 mins) would be irrelevant because you would be paid the same regardless what time you swiped. As an hourly employee, if you can show you were working after your designated swipe time, you MUST be compensated. That is why OT needs approval.
Cockroach Chrystal King is a complete idiot, and no, her appearance does not command respect.
Get your head out of your ass! Sure follow the rules so you don’t have the headache of dealing with bosses enforcing an unjust directive. However don’t shit on the coppers that are taking a stand in their own way to voice that they aren’t going to quietly accept the department doing whatever the fuck they want because our union refuses to bare its fangs and protect its members. Stand with them, or support them in silence, but don’t you ever stab them in the back because you blindly follow bosses like some kind of kiss ass. Believe me bud, whether you’re a rookie or vet, get this delusion that any boss above a LT has your back. Trust me, they don’t. It’s as rare as a four leaf clover to get a captain or above who will back you up and stand with you nowadays.
10/30/2019 12:44:00 AM
I can assure you that the cops that aren’t swiping out aren’t “taking a stand” as you think. Hopefully you’re joking. I know cops and the only reason they’re not swiping is because they want to get hell out of there early. Please
Section 7(k) of the FLSA provides that employees engaged in fire protection or law enforcement may be paid overtime on a “work period” basis. A “work period” may be from 7 consecutive days to 28 consecutive days in length. For work periods of at least 7 but less than 28 days, overtime pay is required when the number of hours worked exceeds the number of hours that bears the same relationship to 212 (fire) or 171 (police) as the number of days in the work period bears to 28. For example, fire protection personnel are due overtime under such a plan after 106 hours worked during a 14-day work period, while law enforcement personnel must receive overtime after 86 hours worked during a 14-day work period.
You are an hourly employee. You think it sounds fancy or makes you important to be called salary, but you are not. Over the 28 police period, allowed by FLSA, you work the amount of hours listed on your paystub, or exchange time due or contractual days off in lieu of working that time. If you are out of comp time or days off, your pay is reduced on a PER HOUR basis representative of the amount of time you took off. You are paid or compensated for every hour you worked and your pay or accrued time is reduced for every hour below 171 in the period you take off. If you were truly a salaried employee, the restrictions on when you swipe in and out (+/- 7 mins) would be irrelevant because you would be paid the same regardless what time you swiped. As an hourly employee, if you can show you were working after your designated swipe time, you MUST be compensated. That is why OT needs approval.
10/30/2019 01:21:00 PM
Really? Look at your last few pay stubs. Have you noticed that you don’t work the same amount of hours every pay period? Or get paid the same hourly rate as those hours worked change? It’s a numbers game to match your SALARY! Don’t believe you’re salaried still? I’ll help you out. Go dust off your contract booklet or go on the FOP site. Go to page 62. Read the title of that page. It says “SALARY schedule for sworn police personnel”. That key word there... SALARY. Ergo we are salaried employees. Everything you said in your last post has to do with the Fair Labor Standards Act. Go read up. As I said before, KNOW YOUR CONTRACT AND LABOR LAWS. Thank you!
Really? Look at your last few pay stubs. Have you noticed that you don’t work the same amount of hours every pay period? Or get paid the same hourly rate as those hours worked change? It’s a numbers game to match your SALARY! Don’t believe you’re salaried still? I’ll help you out. Go dust off your contract booklet or go on the FOP site. Go to page 62. Read the title of that page. It says “SALARY schedule for sworn police personnel”. That key word there... SALARY. Ergo we are salaried employees. Everything you said in your last post has to do with the Fair Labor Standards Act. Go read up. As I said before, KNOW YOUR CONTRACT AND LABOR LAWS. Thank you!
10/31/2019 12:11:00 AM
Uh, still wrong.
You're an hourly employee.
Uh, still wrong.
You're an hourly employee.
10/31/2019 08:31:00 AM
You just can’t fix stupid...I give up at this point. Believe what you'd like. Check page 62 of your contract and let me
know what it says. Does it say hourly schedule or does it say salary schedule? If you still think your hourly then you need to go sit at a desk the rest of your career because you’ve got absolutely zero common sense
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