Contrast / Compare
Who is more valued?
Seems like CPD produces a better product across the board.
Seems like CPD produces a better product across the board.
UPDATE: As someone helpfully reminded us, add 365 days to that total for the PBPA contract.
Labels: info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
59 Comments:
Dont forget to add 2 1/2 months off during the summer. All Holidays off. 2 weeks off during the winter, Christmas and New year included. 1 week off in April. With a 8 to 4 schedule that includes weekends off. Ummmm not sorry, they are being ridiculous.
In all fairness, if the teachers had a contract like the FOP, the teachers would produce astounding academia success. What was I saying? The teachers could each make $100K and still produce a 60% graduation rate with the student body. But hey, it is all about the children and the teachers are so deserving of their 80% pension and 3% COLA compounded.
The CTU is the devil in disguise. The CTU does this to Chicago and us taxpayers every time their contract comes up, for as long as I can remember, and no one ever stands up to them. They have been enabled for decades. A 16% raise is very very generous and the large majority of Americans have never received such a generous raise. My company has never given me a raise like that and I still come to work every day. What kind of message is the CTU sending to our kids? That if you don't get your way, you just walk off your job with no repercussions? I have friends that are police officers and firemen and they have been coming to work for over two years without a contract. Why can't the teachers do the same? They have a great job!
Unfortunately the CTU will continue to do this to Chicago forever unless they are stopped. I believe Lightfoot may have to give them an order to return to work by a specific date or they will be fired. The city can not afford what they are asking and they know it. When does it end? I believe 70-80% of them will return to work. They have invested heavily in their careers through education/degrees, certifications, time, benefits, and passion, and will be giving it all up if they refuse to come back to work. They will not be able to find teaching jobs in the already staffed suburbs and they certainly won't enjoy the salary and benefits they enjoy in Chicago. They will come back to work. They have way too much to lose.This is the only way to end their strong-arming city hall and the taxpayers. Lightfoot has been nothing but professional and (unfortunately) too generous. While on the other hand Jesse sharkey and the CTU have acted unprofessional and antagonistic. The CTU is acting as though they are city hall. They act as though they should control Chicago’s finances. We didn't elect Jesse Sharkey. Also, parents do not believe the CTU when they say, "it's about the children." Frankly, it's insulting.
Listen to John Kass’s podcast from October 15 about the CTU. Great piece! Very informative on the sad history of the CTU and city hall.
What a DISGRACE! The Chicago teachers have already hit the lotto and they’re not happy with 16%? While knowing the city is in a massive budget deficit and losing population and enrollment? How insulting to the taxpayers. They should have taken the incredible deal. CPS is by far the biggest drain on the city’s finances. The mayor should pull the 16% off the table and tell them to pound sand. Start from scratch.
We are treated like scum by the mayor, Aldermen and Superintendent
I wonder after see this, if the FOP will put the department on notice? LMAO
Someone forgot to track how many times Kidney Bean has been drunk on the job... I guarantee it’s not his first walk in the park
Police are more important to The City than the Communist Party indoctrination staff.
What has the CPS system been rated by outside agencies is the real question.
Fire the striking CPS teachers, one and all!
Then let the new hires pay their fair share into the pension system.
Oh, and mandatory City residence, too!
And maybe some parents will get smart and put their children in a Catholic School
that establishes a child’s better education.
You get what you pay for!
Can you pit pbpa up? Has it been four hears?
Parents should be livid and marching at the mayors office during the day and her home at night. Just keep voting democrat and expect the same old nonsense.
Lay down like a door mat and you’ll surely get walked on.
You should put how many CPS scholars were offenders of committing of committing felonies.
Infographic is good idea, this one is kludgy the way it was designed. Starts out with split page, then lost format, even color-code deviated from format.
Do the graphic over, make it dynamic (like heyjackass) and embed at the top of the SCC page. EZ to do with DB on backend.
Yeah, the Police do produce a better product but it is the teachers that produce the product that the Police have to deal with. The teachers don't get all the credit though that they have to share with the community. It all comes down to the fact that they have a Union and you have a collection of Chicago Way political hacks. They stick together and the you have been divided by those with a phone call and those that don't, and a collection of leaders that couldn't lead a one car funeral. Until you get your shit together don't expect anything to change.
Time to drag out the old, sad, story of, "It's for the children." My ass.
Mass shootings in Chicago will we get national world coverage hello Lori where are the gold star exempts perhaps drinking not leading from the front lying taking lead from Otis Eddie?
You can feel the bullets going past you’: 2 multiple-victim shootings strike West Side
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/ct-lawndale-2-boys-woman-shot-20191020-pm332rogzfgs7jzamkqqvjef64-story.html
Excerpt;
His weariness was echoed by other adults nearby. One woman repeated, “Every f------- weekend,” while another was on the phone urging someone to come home as soon as possible. Inside the crime scene, dozens of people filed out of an apartment building as a male officer asked, “Is everyone alright?"
*every fucking weekend yes, and what are you residents doing about it? No marching with fake revs no marching surrounding elected democrats homes offices city hall, no progressives demanding crimesha do her job prosecution! Sorry you elected them but you jump on the fake narrative and slam bastardized police!
Disgraceful but she will pile on taxpayers giving them what they want and still no no strike clause “for the children,” this will show them that Lori is weak!
CPD cannot strike or have a major work action, so there is no leverage
The teachers will just all repeat the party line:
It's for the children.
Negotiating outside of arbitration may be a preferable answer. Of course some guys might believe that’s nonsense, just look at Seattle. It’s not all apples to apples, but, what arbitrator would give an 18% raise to a metropolitan police department which makes them the highest paid cops in their state? The arbitrator would likely settle for something that both sides dislike in the middle. Those negotiations don’t get done by incessantly harassing your opposition. And pay attention to the fact that Seattle’s gov doesn’t “like” their police force either. True politics is boring, tedious, and lengthy. I think our union is playing their cards right by playing them slowly.
Great graphic!
This is a dangerous game to play and comes across a bit petty. Your pension information is incorrect. It’s also missing the raises teachers haven’t gotten for unpaid furloughs I haven’t really seen a raise in years. It also doesn’t include that we don’t get reimbursed beyond $250 for work supplies we need to do our jobs. I spend thousands a year. It also doesn’t include that teachers need continuing education to keep our jobs and don’t get any education reimbursement. It’s also missing that teachers don’t just teach but also need to be the nurses and social workers and everything else our students experiencing trauma need. I support all of us getting a fair contract 💯 you all should too.
Classic divide and conquer 101. Sad. Both professions should have better working conditions. Teachers hating cops, cops hating teachers. We are fighting for crumbs. Pathetic.
Print these flyers and post them everywhere. Especially in the munchkin mayors neighborhood. Put the pressure on her.
Saw this Quote of the Day over at the Burning Platform:
“In keeping Americans ill-educated, ill-informed and constitutionally ignorant, the education establishment has been the politician’s major and most faithful partner. It is in this sense that American education can be deemed a success.” -- Walter E. Williams
The teachers are being rewarded because they're delivering what the rulers of Chicago want, ignorant, dependent proles. The cops keep getting hamstrung. What, you think your job is to support and defend the Constitution, and protect law-abiding citizens? HAHAHAHAHAHA!
Anonymous said...
I wonder after see this, if the FOP will put the department on notice? LMAO
10/20/2019 01:22:00 AM
It was Martin Prieb of the FOP who created this.
I find it odd that communists are not asking for exactly what everyone else has been offered. Oh wait, not a communist when it comes to personal wages and less work.
Why you think the teachers wear RED tshirts, RED represents communism. Not true you say, why did 4 of them go to Venezuela over the summer and praise the country. RED stands for communism. Trust me I came from a communist country from eastern Europe and what I see here from the democratics is sick.
Put that shit on billboards at Ohare and the xways and tv. FOP you lazy mfers, get the fucking message out, what the hell are you waiting for?
Let’s put this on billboards along the expressways.
Anonymous said...
Parents should be livid and marching at the mayors office during the day and her home at night. Just keep voting democrat and expect the same old nonsense.
10/20/2019 03:24:00 AM
“Marching at the mayor’s office?” Why? She’s given them an incredible deal. You want the mayor to give the corrupt CTU everything they want? How much is enough? Aren’t you a taxpayer? That’s how we got to this point. If she caves we the taxpayers get screwed. We should be protesting in front of the CTU.
The CPS and teachers suck. Keep in mind that Daley the first took money from our pension fund during the late 60’s and used it to give the teachers a raise and ended the strike. The scum teachers are use to getting whatever they ask for. Our pension is now the personal piggy bank of the Daley’s and their cronies. Can’t probably get away with funding teacher raises or raises to the CTA which was also done by the first asshole Daley.
And yet coppers will bitch and do nothing. And FOP will do exactly what the city tells them to.
CPD cannot strike or have a major work action, so there is no leverage
BULLSHIT!
There is plenty of leverage. Coppers dont stick together.
you are either for union or against. You can't say screw you and hears to me that is hypocritical and corrupt
Question: Can Chicago make 500 kia's, only 2months and 11days 2 go, can it b done?
Anonymous Anonymous said...@ 10/20/2019 01:58:00 AM
Police are more important to The City than the Communist Party indoctrination staff.
I state that you are 100% correct. How can you have law and order without the effort of CPD?
The bullshit they were teaching my kid was amazing. Complete change of American history, teaching about John Burge. Not able to control the class. In my daughter's words, "it al sucked, daddy"
It is hard to make the private school tuition and live in Chicago, but I will give it all up so my daughter learns and is taught to think for herself. There is nothing I love more than her.
Turn down 16% with all of the time off and turning out the shitty product that they graduate?
Fuck the greedy teachers. Do them like Reagan did the Flight Controllers. Return to work or hit the street. Lightfoot, show us your balls!
CPD will not get any media coverage or sympathy.
24/7/365, around the clock 8.5 hour participation, weekends, holidays, cancelled days off, targets of all sorts, climate elements of cold, wind, rain, snow, heat and all under the management of complete idiots.
FOP can post as much if they want.
Nobody in the media brings up our delayed negotiations other than Groot saying there’s no money and CPD needs cutbacks and reform.
CPS violates their own Code of Ethics by locking The Kids out of an education.
What do wages have to do with The Kids anyway?
They’re On Strike mainly over wages, everything else are mere bargaining chips.
Plenty of people get second jobs if they need more money.
94% of the CPS voted to Strike and less than 1% show up to picket and none volunteer to tend the kids still allowed to hangout in the classrooms.
I hear they want to limit how many charter schools that can operate, yet they’re complaining that their class sizes are too big.
They’re picketing TIF-rich Lincoln Yards. I expect they wanted that TIF money like Rahm gave them for their last Contract. Though new hires do contribute I believe 9% to their pension.
GrootLoafer claims she has no choice but to raise taxes if broke IL doesn’t foot the bill for their Contract.
GrootLoafer wants to come out as the hero and needs someone to bail her out.
GrootLoafer is so far out in the shit field and is sinking in deeper.
GrootLoafer has a big problem with Mr.Man telling her what and how she should do things, that being Sharkey, Rahm or JaeBae Prigster.
GrootLoafer went on to say last week how tragic and dangerous it will be for The Kids if they’re not in school.
One Term JB might toss her a bone if there’s an amicable endorsement(s) for 2020, like KmmmFxxxUp.
An idle devil PrickWrinkle says no Cook Co tax increase (yet) is on the sidelines laughing.
Making GrootLoafer look so bad, dysfunctional and incapable and she know it.
Stay Fetal.
Let CTU-CPD play their hand.
Please don't put FOP on the same flyer as CTU. And it's 9% pension not 9.5% Mr. fireman.
Lorie needs to stand up to the CTU. They wanted preckwinkle. Lightfoot swept all 50 wards by a large majority and without the unions. I believe The only union that endorsed her was the firefighters. The police gave her the silent endorsement with the very large majority of them voting for her. Hopefully she remembers that. Police are sick of corruption.
Eliminate the teacher pensions!
These Socialists don’t deserve a pension, with their left leaning dribble!
401K for all teacher new hires only!
Has Groot called any of the CTU members clowns yet?
Looks to me like your should ditch the FOP and get the CTU to represent you
Make the teachers and CTU foot the costs of the 500 molested CPS children, and the investigative costs and pending lawsuits from the abuse litigation.
This is sick. Cops must find a way to make the city take notice of how unfairly they are being treated.
How many members of CTU leadership are also Democratic Socialists?
Should get 100’s of these as posters and place in the windows of police friendly businesses.
It’s also missing that teachers don’t just teach but also need to be the nurses and social workers and everything else our students experiencing trauma need.
Yea join the club.
Don’t forget about all the csa’s by CPS staff against students. 500 in 10 years (Fed numbers)
Anonymous said...
Make the teachers and CTU foot the costs of the 500 molested CPS children, and the investigative costs and pending lawsuits from the abuse litigation.
10/20/2019 02:51:00 PM
Where is the media no one wants to talk about it?
I’d be willing to bet that we’re more over worked than most departments in the country. I wouldn’t mind close to 100K 4 years in. Sign me up. I’ll also take summers, holidays and weekends off too. I guess you can argue they’re college educated but so am I. Groot where’s our big raise?
Daley the 1st loved the teachers, his daughters were teachers
Chicago schools are a national laughingstock -- I defy you to find a single dollar spent by CPS that provides honest value to their served community. And their political indoctrination of students is an obscenity.
While CPD has its tradition of public intoxication by Superintendents as well as other issues, there are a lot of hardworking cops in Chicago that are doing their best in the conditions they find themselves in.
-- never been a cop
These teachers are so full of themselves and you can tell CPS is doing a great job. That's why there are so many kids going to Ombudsman locations to try to finish and get a CPS diploma. The location at Harlem and Birchwood is always crowded and that just shows what a joke CPS and it's teachers are. If they were doing half as good of a job as they say they are , they wouldn't need these facilities !
It is time we start firing the teachers!
Can anyone talk to Heyjackass about keeping track of how many CPS students are shot/killed during this strike?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Can anyone talk to Heyjackass about keeping track of how many CPS students are shot/killed during this strike?
10/21/2019 10:37:00 PM
You can send him an email, but don't expect him to track stuff that there is no way of him tracking. Where are you supposed to find the student status of every victim? If its that easy to track, why don't you do it?
Its not like they're being shot during school hours when they normally attend school every day. The strike has nothing to do with that.
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