Saturday, December 21, 2019

Wrong Questions/Conclusions

  • As police traffic stops continue to spike in Chicago, the American Civil Liberties Union is asking why minorities are still pulled over much more often than whites despite court-ordered reforms as City Hall searches for its fourth police superintendent in 11 years.

    “Drivers of color continue to be stopped at higher percentages than their estimated local driving population,” the ACLU noted after statistics from 2018 were released. "And they are asked to consent to searches more frequently, with less contraband found, than white drivers.”

    There were roughly 490,000 traffic stops on Chicago streets last year, more than 200,000 than the previous year, according to data from the Illinois Department of Transportation. It was the third consecutive year of sharp increases.

    About 86% (421,000) involved minority motorists. Of those, 300,000 were black. That’s 61% of the total number of people stopped in Chicago in 2018, even though African Americans are about 31% of the city’s 2.7 million population. Nearly 68,000 of the stops involved white motorists.
Every time we see the ACLU start to spout this nonsense, we always ask:
  • Why are 80-to-85% of the homicides committed by black offenders?
After all, if we're only supposed to stop black people based on their population, then it only follows that crime numbers should be exactly proportional, too. Right? But they aren't. Imagine that.

And you have a dozen black aldercreatures DEMANDING increased police presence where 85% of the homicides and shootings are happening. What are the cops supposed to do? You get angry when CPD stops people (and folks), you get angry when we tell everyone to stay fetal.

Ten thousand guns "recovered." How many offenders charged? Does the ACLU have a racial breakdown for Crimesha's office?

And shouldn't the ACLU be asking why one-third of the Department manpower isn't allotted to white Districts? Oh wait, that part is racist.

The Slum Times does their part in piling on, closing with this bullshit:
  • A spokesman told reporters that CPD “shares the concerns” of the ACLU and continues to seek new ways — in hiring practices, officer training and supervision — to treat all residents of Chicago equally.

    Justice demands nothing less, nor does the pursuit of more effective policing.
That would be ideal...if crime was equally distributed across the racial spectrum. When you see gangs of Asians doing wholesale looting of stores, you let us know. Until then, keep beating the police with worthless statistics that do nothing except increase the desire to have nothing to do with the public at all.

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153 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe a certain demographic has a blatant disregard for the law.

12/21/2019 12:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just don’t stop anyone. Don’t do anything. Show up for the report. Give the assholes what they want.

12/21/2019 12:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ACLU knows this they can’t possibly be that stupid!!...it’s just their sole mission is to destroy America but of course their not going to tell u this!

12/21/2019 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Typical liberal analysis: The right data but the wrong conclusion.

12/21/2019 12:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


It’s a relentless and never ending game, fueled by the media and trolls with innuendos even on this blog.
Don’t let them bait you.
We all know the reason for the stops-because those drivers drive like shit! Plain and simple.

Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays, stay safe and get home to your families!



Retired, 30+

12/21/2019 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The southern poverty law center and the aclu are make believe Soros ngo's.
Fight back USA!!!

12/21/2019 12:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Attention ACLU, listen to a Police Radio/ Scanner and write down the number of Crimes in Progress, Jot down the description of the offender. And You will See that Cops are not Racist and they are being told by Crime Victims Who to Stop.

12/21/2019 12:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here we go again with the leftest ACLU agenda. The increase in traffic stops coincide with a general increase in police activity aimed primarily at seizing illegal guns. There has also been a chunk of guns recovered from these stops. I don't get it, do they want more police in high crime areas? Or do they just want officers to stay fetal?....I'm guessing the second option sounds like the better one at this point.

12/21/2019 12:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The department should stop the push for blue cards. Com stat is all about numbers and the bosses push for these bs numbers so they do not get made an example of at the com stat meetings. If the city hasn't learned by now that com stat is a bad idea, they will never learn. The reason we are under the consent decree is all because of Gary McCarthy and his comp stat lies and manipulations. So just stop looking for bs numbers and stop pushing for blue cards and ISR's and the ACLU will not be able to make up these lies by manipulating numbers and statistics that are lopsided and untrue. Remember when the blue cards were first implemented al the liberal fools from the UIC were angry because they did not get enough blue cards, because every one knew that all they were for is so the numbers can be manipulated and lies can be published in the media. Then all of a sudden the department starts pushing for blue cards so they can keep track of activity. Simple solutions stop the bs activity tracking com stat and the media can not make up lies and maniputle statistics.

12/21/2019 12:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don’t know what their talking about but I stop a lot of A/P/I yep all coming off the River boat Casino in Indiana.

12/21/2019 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If 90% of the crimes were being committed by white men and most of the traffic stops and searches are done to black men.....THAT would be racism.

12/21/2019 12:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

With a 15% solve rate how do you know 80% of homicides are black?

12/21/2019 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe the ACLU should be asking, “Why are black people such bad drivers, and why won’t they just cooperate with the officers when they get pulled over instead of getting all up in the officer’s grill and setting themselves up for a search?”

I am a “woman of color” (white is a color) who has kind of a lead foot. I have been pulled over multiple times in my driving career. NOT ONCE have I argued with the officer. NOT ONCE have I been less than polite and cooperative. NOT ONCE have I been asked to get out of the car or had the officer ask to search the car.

Could my ATTITUDE have something to do with how the officers treat me? I have a brother who is arrogant, belligerent and spoiling for a fight when he gets pulled over because nothing, but nothing, is ever his fault. He is also a person of color (white), but he is told to get out of the car and assume the position frequently, since he is a truly bad driver and a hothead.

You guys are policemen. Is it the color, or the behavior? And BTW, I have argued with my leftist relatives that when someone goes whizzing by your stopped vehicle doing 90 MPH, you can’t see inside their car to know what color they are before initiating a stop. Is that an accurate statement, or do you guys have, like, super x-ray vision to see inside speeding vehicles? Or do you only pull over cars with fancy rims?

12/21/2019 12:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There’s some dirty shit going down in Chinatown.

12/21/2019 12:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember who started this brilliant idea in motion… 0bama, Useless bit of garbage.

12/21/2019 12:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Choose UNKNOWN on the TSSS cards.

Why would you make an assumption of their race?
The TSSS cards specifically say "Members will not ask the driver their race"

Remember . . Rule 14: Making a false report, written or oral.

Choose UNKNOWN on the TSSS cards.

12/21/2019 01:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"There were roughly 490,000 traffic stops on Chicago streets last year, more than 200,000 than the previous year"

Which of you dumbasses is still stopping people?

12/21/2019 01:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These people are so brain dead. Its obvious they have an agenda but reality isnt a part of it.

12/21/2019 02:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ACLU... please question the department and request I get put in the district that I live in. Take a look at my record as a police-“person” and you will see all my numbers across the board are low; rarely any arrests. I am tired of policing neighborhoods of color. I even requested people of call me a racist to request exactly this from the alderscumbag. My God even if I was assigned to 008 my commute would be shaved in half

12/21/2019 02:17:00 AM  
Blogger I Fart In Your General Direction said...

“There were roughly 490,000 traffic stops on Chicago streets last year, more than 200,000 than the previous year,...”.


If these numbers are true, shame on every last copper making stops north of what’s absolutely necessary.

Remember this, kiddies: THERE IS NO SUCH THING as an ‘unavoidable traffic stop/TVB’.

Despite everything justifying the contrary, some of you clowns just insist on learning the hard way.

Dummies.

12/21/2019 02:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It just kills John that's he is such a looser!! Perhaps he should be banned from all future community meetings.

12/21/2019 02:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank you aclu for pointing out the obvious, that the police department is doing their job.

12/21/2019 02:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

According to the most recent ACS, the racial composition of Chicago was:

White: 49.14%
Black or African American: 30.51%
Other race: 11.19%
Asian: 6.22%
Two or more races: 2.63%
Native American: 0.28%
Native Hawaiian or Pacific Islander: 0.03%

These are 2017 census numbers. I do believe that based on the above numbers, people of color are the majority in Chicago

12/21/2019 02:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So what are police, not necessarily Chicago, to do In predominantly black areas? We forget there are places in this country, plenty, that have a supportive city, government, and command staff, so they’re still out they’re doing work. What are police in places like that to do? Working in a part of town that may be 95% black or Hispanic. Ignore all crime and violations because you haven’t met your quota of white people stopped yet? And you make a good and under made point, police actually don’t stop enough black people based on their percentage of crime committed. We as police understand you deploy resources where crime happens, not along racial lines. So if 80% of the homicides area happening in communities that are black, that’s where resources are deployed and action is taken. If they’d stop shooting and killing each other, the police go away. There’s certain small spots in 011 that manage to sell their dope without, for the most part, any shootings. Therefore, they really don’t get bothered and are left to sell all the dope they want. The neighbors don’t call because they’re not out there making noise and shooting guns. They just sell their dope and leave. Amazing how that works.

12/21/2019 03:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aaaand...mic...dropped. boom
Once again you hit the nail on the head SCC. Its not racist folks!!! It is what it is!!!
Can we start talking about it already?? So we can fix wtf is wrong in these communities?

12/21/2019 03:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The TSSS started in 2003 under then Senator Obama. http://www.idot.illinois.gov/transportation-system/local-transportation-partners/law-enforcement/illinois-traffic-stop-study

This is the longest fucking study ever and it keeps getting renewed year after year. Now that I'm long retired I can tell you that I always got confused on the driver's race during traffic stops over the years and often put down WHITE since we weren't allowed to ask, lol. Ridiculous

12/21/2019 03:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How come they just will NOT accept the FACT that people of color commit a disproportion number of crimes per ca pita . IT IS JUST THE WAY IT IS .

12/21/2019 03:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lol SCC on Asians with wholesale looting. I'll never forget when I worked at 311 due to an injury. I was report writing. A Michigan Ave store clerk was calling in a shoplifting case. The call went like this:

311 can I help you? "Yes I'd like to report a theft from our store." I replied ok what happened?

"Two individuals walked out the store with clothing and did not pay."

I said okay hold on.... Let me ready the computer here.

Okay tell about the individuals? The clerk describes everything but their race. Obviously it was an Obama voter I was dealing with.

I repeated all the information and filled out the appropriate boxes for everything including their races.

We go on and the clerk asks me? "Aren't you going to ask me for their races?" Obviously intentionally left out of her narrative.

I replied "I got it. African American. " I then pressed on and was stopped and she replied "I never said AA!" I replied my bad I thought you said AA and of course the banter started. I never gave the description!!

I said ok what's their perceived race? Of course we all know the reply after much angst.

12/21/2019 04:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yet another reason why I haven’t done a blue card or traffic stop in more than 4 years. Let the society become what they beg for. Anything goes , any enforcement is racist. Do not do anything. But the poor young officers still still still don’t get it. I honestly can’t wait to 2 months to never see Chicago ever again, Texas is the place to be minus Houston and Austin

12/21/2019 04:18:00 AM  
Blogger Jim A, Area 2 GA, 1976 said...

I was a Cadet 1968-1972 then patrolman/Det till 2000. Why are you guys upset about the citizens not wanting to be stropped or otherwise impeded from doing what comes natural.
They don't want you to stop people of color or be arrested or whatever. Sit back, put your blinders on and collect what now is a very nice income. THEY are your bosses, do as they want.

12/21/2019 04:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Much like Implicit Bias, the evidence doesn’t support the proposition. Yet, certain fools “know” that it exists, and that’s enough for them.
And, come 01 Jan 2020, the Illinois Traffic Stop Statistical “Study” becomes permanent. why? Because, hopefully, someday it’ll prove their point?

12/21/2019 05:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As I see it and I see it quite clearly. The Police should be stopping people in direct proportion to the percentage to the crime they commit. The Police should be commended for the restraint the show the community everyday. When you flood certain neighborhoods with Police trying to control people that can't or wont control themselves who do you think they are going to stop?
Figures don't lie but liars figure. The ACLU has an agenda that is trying/will destroy the USA over time and they are willing to distort and lie to reach their goal.

12/21/2019 05:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bluuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuue cards!!! Go get those blue cards! Bwahahahahah! The result of measuring your worth as an officer on how many blue cards you get. When the Milwaukee traffic study reared it’s ugly head, they found that more traffic stops were CORRELATED with lower crime. But of course, our genius gold star crew didn’t understand third grade math (CORRELATION does not equal CAUSATION) and started pushing this for activity on anyone who would do their bidding for fear of losing their spot or retaliatory measures in response to not doing them. The end result? The same shit sandwich we’ve always been made to eat. Stopping anyone and everyone with no enforcement action. Sounds kind of like the bond system and the shit coming out of 26th st lately. Congrats, blue card warriors. You closely resemble Kim Foxx.

12/21/2019 05:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A spokesman told reporters that CPD “shares the concerns” of the ACLU and continues to seek new ways — in hiring practices, officer training and supervision — to treat all residents of Chicago equally.





.... And promotions too! Don't expect to rank high on this next sergeant test if you are a white male.


12/21/2019 06:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about asians?
I believe that asian dont get prosecuted enough arer they some how immune to committing crime ?

It is kinda like the Alderman wanting 1/3 of the weed license. Why should you once you break it up
Women
Gays/ lesbians
transgender
handicap
Hispanic
Asian
mentally challenged
What is the cut of this mystery pie that has grown very small.
And the sad part is how many tickets were written on those stops?
Does the Aclu count each ticket written on that person?

Drive like a normal person buy an actual plate for your ride and dont blow weed smoke out your window with jazz music blaring.

12/21/2019 06:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why bother pulling over ‘people’ with stolen cars, no insurance, drivers licenses or stickers? Lori & Kimmy will just excuse all tickets/debts so that ‘families’ can pull themselves out of this spiral of poverty. Chicago must be rolling in dough if we can excuse $$$ tickets.

12/21/2019 06:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We should have never allowed the ACLU to have any voice. They are the drafters of the progressive play book. Create a false narrative and seek push it through threatened court challenges. It works!

12/21/2019 06:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What percentage of vehicles on the road in the highest crime areas of the city are driven by white people? 2%? 3%? The only percentage that matters is closure rate on homicides.

12/21/2019 06:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

131 days to go for me.

All of my kids took my advice NOT to get involved in LE or ghetto affairs of any sort.

You need to avoid the ‘hood in your professional and private life.

Trouble is, the ‘hood is coming to every last, fucking part of Cook County.

Time to bail.

Family is in process of moving to areas in Red states not controlled by anarchists, bolsheviks, race hustlers, etc....

Fuck the ACLU and fuck the communist agitators starting with Barack Hussein Obama and working our way down.

Chiraq will be reduced to hiring Four Corner Hustlers and Two Sixers as police soon.

12/21/2019 06:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't understand why traffic stops are up. You guys are crazy. FETAL. Collect you're checks. Don't get sued. Don't go to jail. Retire. Live happily ever after. The end.

12/21/2019 06:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So why the hell at you bothering to stop anyone. Your fools just asking for trouble. The boss says I need numbers and like little robots you give him traffic stops. Wake up your being set up especially if your beat is a community beathat. Not going to find any non colored people to site there,are you. " So officer I see ALL your stops are people of color why are you so clearly racist", COPA asks. And ask they will!

12/21/2019 06:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actually THE 85% number you use is very low. Much closer to 90% would be more accurate. But they don't want to hear the truth or facts. This is all about feelings. Th4y feel Pele of color can't possibly be as much trouble as it seems, therefore it is true because they feel that way.

12/21/2019 07:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And the districts want more blue cards😂

12/21/2019 07:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please stop defending the argument with facts, that is so unfair. Democrats believe that Facts get in the way truth. Biden actually said something like that a month ago and he is likely to be running for President soon. Statistics are racist period, their measure point is feelings.

12/21/2019 07:07:00 AM  
Blogger North Detroit said...

"Lies, damn lies and statistics." Don't count on the ACLU to bell the cat. They used to do good work, but their agenda has changed. Keep up the good work, Second City.

12/21/2019 07:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I worked VRI last month and noticed that the 011th District roll call room was loaded with young coppers, don't get me wrong I think that's great, but how about redistributing some of those bodies to where they are wanted. If they are not needed in 011 send them elsewhere. There are days when there are 4-5 officers in my district at roll call.

12/21/2019 07:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leftist arseholes.....dummy statistics to prove falsities.
A. Where are the majority of police assigned to patrol?
B. If answer to A is in the crime ridden black minority districts, where the shootings and killings
are occurring, then B is if your patrol area is of predominantly black citizens, then that’s who
gets stopped for traffic violations. Sorry, not many white dudes cruise through 011 even on a
good day.
C. We tax paying non-minority areas would be HAPPY to have OUR POLICE back in our neighborhoods
stopping the speeders, bad drivers, drunk drivers etc. SEND EM BACK!!!!!! We will gladly accept our
part to keeping the useless ACLU happy.


12/21/2019 07:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

About 86% (421,000) involved minority motorists. Of those, 300,000 were black. That’s 61% of the total number of people stopped in Chicago in 2018, even though African Americans are about 31% of the city’s 2.7 million population. Nearly 68,000 of the stops involved white motorists.

Rumor of the day is Special Ed's DUI "stop" was included in this study...

12/21/2019 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Once again. 98+ percent of the residents in 011 are black. If I work in 011, pretty much EVERYONE I stop is going to be black just based on where I work. Crime in the 011th district is rampant. Traffic stops are going to be much more frequent in this area due to the crime in the area. An area like 016 has mostly white and Hispanic people living there. The crime rate is drastically lower in 016. I’m willing to bet the traffic stops in 016 are more than half as less than 011. I’m willing to bet traffic stops in 011 have more white and Hispanic stops than blacks. Same goes for 008, 006, 015 etc etc etc. if I work in a district where 99 percent of the residents are black then odds are that’s who I’m going to be coming into contact with all day long. Not because I’m picking them out on purpose but because that’s who lives their, works there, shops there and commits crimes there. See the trend???

12/21/2019 07:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are no donations or clicks in telling the truth

12/21/2019 08:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fair, equal, equitable - different things. Fuck the ACLU, people in this city are dead because of them. Black and brown people, BTW. Note to that tool Beck: ignore their BS. Have your boy Malinowski explain the data to you and Lightfoot.

12/21/2019 08:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chris fusco of the sun times is a complete and total cop hater. And reporter Matt Hendrickson is a total sycophant for Cabrini Kim and hates the police. Hendrickson is more interested in doing the criminals bidding than reporting fairly. The scum times is a tool of the progressive left and hopefully will be out of business soon. Dold of the Tribune is an ass kisser as well to Lori and Kim and won’t report on criminals shoplifting because he takes orders from loris progressive uneducated city college associates degree press people who are all cop haters.

12/21/2019 08:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Naughty you. Got caught telling the truth again.

12/21/2019 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it. Do not count on them. Leave them alone.”
― Ayn Rand

12/21/2019 08:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pretty sure a study was done on traffic camera tickets. Traffic cameras dont care about race. Well guess which race simply sped more?

12/21/2019 08:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like everything wrong with this city can be fixed by just stopping more people of non-color according to the ACLU. Those folks are just brilliant.

12/21/2019 08:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT
Will Cupich be offering to bless your ganja after the first of the year.

12/21/2019 08:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What logic!!!!

I will accept the “data” that supports my opinions and then ignore data that disproves it.

12/21/2019 08:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why, in the name of God, is anyone still doing “traffic stops”? And an extra 200,000 no less. It takes a special kind of stupid to continue to open yourself up to scrutiny and litigation.

12/21/2019 08:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So these stats have me wondering why they assign police to any area to patrol. Question #1 I see a car blow thru a stop sign at 40mph not knowing whose driving, I then stop the car and I find the driver to be a black male, not what do I apologize, tell him it's his lucky day and dont worry about the stop sign, not having a license and insurance but the ACLU doesnt want you bothered. PS why dont you go downtown to target and steal whatever you want, its OK, our States attorney says its Christmas and everyone needs a present . I hope an ACLU monitor gets stuck up, I dont wish that he or she gets hurt just woken up.

12/21/2019 09:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Stop no one the go home safe to your family!

Put your time in, retire and leave this fucking State!!

Anyone doing any real work should think twice about it!

12/21/2019 09:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a Police officer in the ghetto, Traffic stops always called themselves out. All I had to do was sit in one spot and let the vehicles drive by. Without fail, somebody would drive by with a phony temp plate, missing taillight lens, or do a quick roll through an intersection with no turn signal before a turn. Or the old cruising through the alleys instead of driving on the streets. Many of those drivers also chose to drive with out insurance or a Drivers license. Or even decided to drive their vehicles with out purchasing a city sticker. A grave sin, because we as police officers will see a three day suspension for violating that same Law. Open liquor, or DUI from recent drug use is another.

It's important to remember that they drew my attention to them. Not the other way around. I've seen the racist card pulled a hundred times or more as I'm sure most coppers have. If the community wants to be safe, they need to accept a modicum of policing. See, bad guys carry guns and drugs in their cars, and the car is used in many crimes against the community on a routine basis.

If the community wants NO policing, I think they are getting exactly what they are asking for. But it doesn't make any sense to cry about racist traffic stops, and then say "The Po-Leece Need to do something about all this killing!"

If they want to record traffic stops it will only show where more people tend to flaunt the Law. Not where the police are more racist.

12/21/2019 09:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

With a 15% solve rate how do you know 80% of homicides are black?

==========

Usually, we just count the dead bodies.

12/21/2019 09:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys are policemen. Is it the color, or the behavior? And BTW, I have argued with my leftist relatives that when someone goes whizzing by your stopped vehicle doing 90 MPH, you can’t see inside their car to know what color they are before initiating a stop. Is that an accurate statement, or do you guys have, like, super x-ray vision to see inside speeding vehicles? Or do you only pull over cars with fancy rims?

12/21/2019 12:43:00 AM

with an attitude like yours, you need to marry a cop. Well said. You are on the side of police officers

12/21/2019 09:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blue cards? Is Randy Darlin still sitting at a desk filing out cards like he did when he was in seven.

12/21/2019 09:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The District Coordination Officer will solve everything. After all, it worked in other places.

12/21/2019 09:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Obama is anti police and he is the one that started ‘this shit. He is anti America!!!

12/21/2019 09:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The main reason for and continuance of those TSSS cards was that the ACLU never got their annual desired results so they badgered the departments to keep it up until they had some alleged ammunition.
Think about it.
Their intended results were to show that 'minorities' were disproportionately stopped by police. Well it should either show annually that either white or black (their intentional goal) are stopped on a higher level.
So 'any and every' year it should be a black or white finding/issue.
Where then is the annual ACLU outcry every year since 2003 that EITHER one of the color groups were higher than the other?
Statistically, there can never be a 'tie' EVERY year, so year to year one of the two groups have to be higher than the other.
In typical ACLU, leftist, liberal attitude when/if the number of whites were stopped at a higher level they were given a 'participation ribbon' (can't have winners or losers) but when people of color come out on top...it's RACIST.
ACLU = America's Communist Lying Undesirables
MAGA = Make America Great Again

12/21/2019 09:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Don't stop anyone.


12/21/2019 09:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have an idea.........Have the department evenly distribute officers to each district. Each district gets a certain number of officers based upon the number of citizens living there, not based upon the crimes. I know I would be happier because my neighborhood would have the proper coverage. Regardless, you will then see the stops on "persons of color" go down because coppers aren't tripping over each other. To have almost 500 officers assigned to 007 and 011 is ridiculous while other districts have 200 or 300 only.

But you will never see this statistic in the news because somehow that would be deemed racist.
Remember, it's all about the optics to the public.

12/21/2019 09:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey ACLU. Facts don’t care about your feelings.

12/21/2019 09:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Meh

Its the same way in Champaign ACLU gets mad. City starts running radar on Windsor where the soccer moms are late taking their kids to the Y in the minivan. They get white people and it all balances out. its a numbers game. In the mean time if your in 11 why the hell are you stopping anything. Let the community solve their problems. Physics lead is a problem but not much else.

12/21/2019 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What everyone is saying is right and makes sense, but a big reason as to why we conduct tons of traffic missions is because it's actually a part of the GVRS which the dept continues to implement. Guess where we conduct traffic missions? Where there is a high propensity for gang violence (See the connection). Guess why we do it? Because it's in the orders that THEY wrote and they force us to. The reason traffic stops are up is because they're pushing the blue card warriors to rack up numbers that actually pass as activity in a futile attempt to curb violence. Then we get labeled as racists. Rank and file get blamed as usual. Sun times should actually do their jobs and perform just a tiny bit of research before they go mouthing off. The biggest culprit facing law enforcement today across this country is ignorance. Always has been and always will be our greatest threat.


General Order G10-01
GANG VIOLENCE REDUCTION STRATEGY

VIII.

C. ensure targeted vehicle enforcement missions are conducted.
1. A goal of targeted vehicle enforcement missions is to reduce gang violence, shootings, and drive-by shootings by enforcing the appropriate statutes and ordinances.
2. Members assigned to a targeted vehicle enforcement mission will focus their efforts on impounding vehicles for the following offenses: an assault weapon or narcotics in the vehicle, a revoked or suspended driver's license, playing music too loud, possession of spray paint by a minor in the vehicle, possession of an altered handicap permit, displaying a false temporary registration permit, soliciting a prostitute, fireworks in the vehicle, fleeing a police vehicle, and other appropriate ordinances that allows impounding a vehicle.
NOTE:
Members will impound vehicles consistent with the Department directive titled “Impoundment of Vehicles for Municipal Code Violations.”



signed,

Just biding my time in 002 until my next move.

12/21/2019 09:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe the ACLU should be asking, “Why are black people such bad drivers, and why won’t they just cooperate with the officers when they get pulled over instead of getting all up in the officer’s grill and setting themselves up for a search?”

I am a “woman of color” (white is a color) who has kind of a lead foot. I have been pulled over multiple times in my driving career. NOT ONCE have I argued with the officer. NOT ONCE have I been less than polite and cooperative. NOT ONCE have I been asked to get out of the car or had the officer ask to search the car.

Could my ATTITUDE have something to do with how the officers treat me? I have a brother who is arrogant, belligerent and spoiling for a fight when he gets pulled over because nothing, but nothing, is ever his fault. He is also a person of color (white), but he is told to get out of the car and assume the position frequently, since he is a truly bad driver and a hothead.

You guys are policemen. Is it the color, or the behavior? And BTW, I have argued with my leftist relatives that when someone goes whizzing by your stopped vehicle doing 90 MPH, you can’t see inside their car to know what color they are before initiating a stop. Is that an accurate statement, or do you guys have, like, super x-ray vision to see inside speeding vehicles? Or do you only pull over cars with fancy rims?

Very nicely said....spot on.

Old Retired guy

12/21/2019 10:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First, cops don’t look at what the race is of the occupants of the vehicle. They look at the violation first and then the movement of the occupants within the vehicle prior to exiting their patrol car. Safety is the only concern. Second, once again it’s the bosses that demand “blue cards blue cards blue cards.” Numbers numbers numbers. Permanently eliminate merit and the numbers demand may drop.

12/21/2019 10:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"""Anonymous said...

With a 15% solve rate how do you know 80% of homicides are black?"""

"Solve rate"? First off the "clearance rate" is 10.6% and all that means is an offender has been named in 10.6% of Homicides. Now included in that is righteous police and citizen shootings in self defense.

"Suspect charged" looks to be about 1/2 that 10% and who knows WTF the "suspect convicted" is in this town of mutts? I'd bet its about 2% of actual murders where somebody goes to jail for it, and those are just the gimmee's.

I dont blame the dicks. They are up against a wall of silence, bullshit, and political shenanigans.

12/21/2019 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First of all, why is anyone stopping anybody these days? Just saying....Glad to be retired..

12/21/2019 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...

With a 15% solve rate how do you know 80% of homicides are black?

=
Said the fraternity brotha...

12/21/2019 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doesn't these homicide victims have civil liberties from being killed unnecessarily? How come the ACLU doesn't represent them?

12/21/2019 10:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
ACLU... please question the department and request I get put in the district that I live in. Take a look at my record as a police-“person” and you will see all my numbers across the board are low; rarely any arrests. I am tired of policing neighborhoods of color. I even requested people of call me a racist to request exactly this from the alderscumbag. My God even if I was assigned to 008 my commute would be shaved in half

12/21/2019 02:17:00 AM

If your too dumb to know what a bid is, you're too dumb for God to give a fuck about.

12/21/2019 10:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

 Chicago is approximately 1/3 black, 1/3 white and 1/3 hispanic as of the year 2010. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Chicago In 2011 there were 433 homicides in the city of Chicago. (128 cleared, or29%) (There were 943 in 1992). The 2011 data lists the race of the offender only in regards to cases that have been cleared. That leaves open the (improbable) criticism that police concentrated on arresting predominantly from one race, but here are the statistics nonetheless. As an aside, 88% of murder offenders were male. Usually that number is in the 93% range. In 2011, 70% of offenders were black, 25% Hispanic and 4% white. These ratios are consistent since 1991, and probably longer, with blacks hovering around 80%, Hispanics 20%, and whites 5%. (see page 54 of Chicago Murder Report).

CHICAGO MURDER REPORT 2011
https://home.chicagopolice.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/2011-Murder-Report.pdf

12/21/2019 10:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

o Murder/Robbery in New York City
 In 2010 NYC was 44% white, 25% black, 12% Asian, and 27% hispanic. In 2014 the population was 8.5M.
 http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0108570.html
 In 2012 Murder and non-negligent manslaughter offenders: black 55%, white 10%, Hispanic 30% http://www.nyc.gov/html/nypd/downloads/pdf/analysis_and_planning/crime_and_enforcement_activity_jan_to_jun_2012.pdf
 In 2012 Robbery: black 70%, Hispanic 24%, white 5%. (arrests mirrored these percentages)

12/21/2019 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

 According to the FBI, the U.S. had 15, 326 murders in 2015. The population of -+the U.S. was 321M. The rate per 100,000 residents was 4.9. When the race of the offender was known, 5,620 were black, 4,598 were white, 1,312 were Hispanic, and 4,408 were unknown. https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2015/crime-in-the-u.s.2015/tables/expanded_homicide_data_table_3_murder_offenders_by_age_sex_and_race_2015.xls
• In 2015, 62% of Americans were white, 13% black, 18% Hispanic and 6% Asian. https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/table/PST045215/00
• Blacks 5620 of 41.7M = 13.6 per 100,000
• Whites 4593 of 199M = 2.3 per 100,000
• Hispanics 1312 of 57.8M = 2.3 per 100,000
• Blacks are 5.9x more likely to murder than are whites or hispanics

12/21/2019 10:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

o England
 Per Wiki, England collects crime data broken down by race per a 1991 law. In England and Wales whites make up 88.6% and blacks 2.7% of the population. (Note 54% of the black population lives in London). But blacks are 8% of arrests while whites are 80%. Prison population: blacks = 13%, whites 72%.
 Race and crime in London. 10% of the 7.5M Londoners are black. In 2009-2010, regarding ‘accusations” (I read this as police reports generated which an arrest in not necessarily made), blacks accounted for 59% of robberies and 54% of violent crimes in general.

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_crime_in_the_United_Kingdom

12/21/2019 10:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

• Crime in Canada
o In approx.. 1989 a police boss stated that while blacks made up 6% of Jane and Finch (an area in Toronto) population, they accounted for 82% of the robberies and muggings, 55% of the purse snatchings, and 51% of drug offenses in the previous year. Ontario police were then prohibited from keeping racial crime stats for the next 26 years.
o In 2015 Problems arose when some sought info on the race of Canadians killed by the cops, apparently to support the B Lives matter narrative.
o https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2015/08/17/a-thorny-history-of-race-based-statistics.html
o Racial crime stats are effectively banned in Canada http://www.oxfordhandbooks.com/view/10.1093/oxfordhb/9780199859016.001.0001/oxfordhb-9780199859016-e-020?rskey=PaTgzw&result=8

12/21/2019 10:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rather than focus on who gets stopped, how about why.

Bad drivers, bad driving habits, general disregard to traffic and traffic signs/signals/ IL Rules of the Road, whether in our fancy tourist downtown, the tree lined cottage groves, residential or business districts and the vast expanse of Sanctuary crime zones and near or from all so common crime scenes.

Driving like an asshole at some point (especially where flunky multi-merits routinely Flood the Zone™️ and demand Activity or else), its likely going to get an asshole driver stopped.


Just stop more white folks to make it “fair” ? Bite me.

Fcck all these assholes - DON’T STOP ANYONE FOR ANY REASON.
It keeps CookCo Traffic Ct empty and saves money.
It keeps house mouse citation clerks happy.
It keeps COPA idle (highly likely they’ll piggyback on this ACLU finding and look to administer swift discipline).


Find a Wheel and Get Slumping.

12/21/2019 11:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, mistakes happen. If every card gets filled out with the correct information with exception of the race box that gets checked white or asian (mix it up for fun) then all of their research efforts and hours-long data dives will be skewed with misinformation. Those cards serve no investigatory purpose, so screw them, check every box other than black and mess up their stats. Their agenda can be our entertainment.

12/21/2019 11:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blacks, who make up 13 percent of the US population, committed 85.5 percent of those victimizations, or 540,360 felonious assaults on whites, while whites, 61 percent of the population, committed 14.4 percent, or 91,470 felonious assaults on blacks.

Regarding threats to blacks from the police: A police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer.

12/21/2019 11:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous 7:07

Said regarding Biden Lib Leftists:

"Statistics are racist period, their measure point is feelings."

I respond:

This is true. The worst Lib Leftists BlackLiesMatter, SPLC/ADL, NEA, CNN are now insisting that:

"Math is racist" - Math tests are racist because inner city Black AA public school students perform poorly on these tests.

Don't believe me? Impossible you say:

Check out these real news stories:

https://www.seattletimes.com/education-lab/new-course-outlines-prompt-conversations-about-identity-race-in-seattle-classrooms-even-in-math/

www.personal.psu.edu/staff/j/d/jdg117/vdare.com.html

But, to counter this insanity there is.... sanity, real math:

As George Orwell wrote in "1984"

"“Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows.”

I encourage SCC readers to explore the "Benedict Option" - this is growing movement of traditional Catholics and others to withdraw from mainstream, hopelessly corrupt American society and form their own communities with their own culture.

No Cable TV
No hard core Porn
No Hollywood movies with Star Wars Franchises pushing the worst forms of feminism
No CNN's Jeff Zucker camped in our living rooms spreading vicious lies about honest police officers
And on the plus side:

Traditional marriage, school uniforms, same sex gym classes and....

Basic math.

Even the liars at The Atlantic Magazine have noticed the Benedict Option:

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/01/retreat-christian-soldiers/603043/

Whenever you are with some idiot Lib Leftists who starts mouthing off about BlackLivesMatter disproportionate arrests of Black AA in our city, ask them the math question:

"What's 2 + 2?"

Am I free to give the answer or is that also RACIST.

12/21/2019 11:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
With a 15% solve rate how do you know 80% of homicides are black?

12/21/2019 12:36:00 AM

Victim (if not DOA on scene), witness, and cameras brainiac.

12/21/2019 11:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
With a 15% solve rate how do you know 80% of homicides are black?

12/21/2019 12:36:00 AM
..................................
By asking such an uninformed and stupid question, how do we know your brain works at a 15% capacity. Easy. Reread your dumb ass libtard question.

12/21/2019 11:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Remember who started this brilliant idea in motion… 0bama, Useless bit of garbage.

12/21/2019 12:58:00 AM

It was Karl Marx

12/21/2019 11:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
The TSSS started in 2003 under then Senator Obama. http://www.idot.illinois.gov/transportation-system/local-transportation-partners/law-enforcement/illinois-traffic-stop-study

This is the longest fucking study ever and it keeps getting renewed year after year. Now that I'm long retired I can tell you that I always got confused on the driver's race during traffic stops over the years and often put down WHITE since we weren't allowed to ask, lol. Ridiculous
12/21/2019 03:57:00 AM

Almost every Hispanic tells me their white.

12/21/2019 11:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who’s doing all these stops? Idiots

12/21/2019 11:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

> With a 15% solve rate how do you know 80% of homicides are black?

Dude, you can't use the results of racially motivated non-cooperation with the police (obstruction of justice) as an argument that Chicago is the one shining, egalitarian exception to the national statistics by race.

We're all looking for Dr. King's dream, but that path goes through some hard truths, and I don't mean just hard truths for people of color like this one happens to be. When we all get rowing the same direction, the boat is gonna stop floundering.

12/21/2019 11:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic but this can be very bad. Look at the new law that takes effect January 1st. Extends police powers to investigators. Will COPA fall under this ?


Law Enforcement Training and Certification (HB 2591/PA 101-0187): Gives officers an additional chance to be qualified with training when they are not able to complete training in the six-month period. Changes the agency penalty for failing to train an officer in initial period from a permanent prohibition of employment to a one-year prohibition. Codifies the Law Enforcement Training and Standards Board's authority and duty to disqualify officers for entering a plea of guilty for a felony offense. Gives Law Enforcement Training and Standards Board investigators the ability to investigate like other statewide investigators. Permits police powers for investigators with appropriate training. Expands the current enforcement officer intern program to correctional officers. Establish veterans' preference for intern candidates. Creates the Law Enforcement Training Fund within State Treasury for the purposes of accepting and spending donated funds.

12/21/2019 11:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We call it Freestyle Fridays on the south side. You know, just drive which ever old which way you want.

12/21/2019 11:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boy the media loves to pit the races against each other. Meanwhile in real life normal people of all races just get along. Ridiculous

12/21/2019 11:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the 15% clearance rate 80% black offender rate idiot there are witnesses and in some cases victims are alive long enough to give a description of the offender(s). Plus there is the news media agenda that will not state the offenders race because the offender is usually black. Robbery and theft from person are more black owned crime. Check the all knowing FBI statistics or do a FOI on the city of Chicago.

12/21/2019 11:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aclu does all the damage and takes no blame.

12/21/2019 11:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ACLU has always been an ANTI police organization.

12/21/2019 12:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

07, 011 and 015 should be No Go Zones. They hate the police and don’t want police service unless it’s the wayward grandson mouthing off at grandma.

12/21/2019 12:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

All those little stickers you put on the back of the violation tickets are monitored by UIC. That data is stored.

12/21/2019 12:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't foot chase, don't car chase, don't stop anyone. Just answer the radio and go to your call. Be safe and God Bless. Merry Christmas!

12/21/2019 12:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pretty sure a study was done on traffic camera tickets. Traffic cameras dont care about race. Well guess which race simply sped more?

A city in New York shut down traffic cameras because the wrong people were getting the tickets. Won't take a genus to figure out wou they were!

12/21/2019 12:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“With a 15% solve rate how do you know 80% of homicides are black?

==========

Usually, we just count the dead bodies.“



Hahahahahahahahahaha I’m alone laughing like a child at that response. Fantastic.

12/21/2019 12:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I worked in the Duece when there were still projects on State St, in the 90's. Of course, all of my traffic stops were for traffic violations. It was like shooting fish in a barrel. Not only did they either not stop completely at a stop sign or they'd not use a turn signal or had burnt out tail lights or had only one headlight. I almost never wrote a ticket on anyone that had a license, current plates and city sticker with insurance. I'd tell them that since they were good enough to have all their stuff together, I'd give them a pass for doing the right thing except for this one time. It's been a long time since then but, I remember not giving that break to very many people because it was like finding a unicorn.

Please someone tell the Globalist/Bolsheviks in the ACLU, media and democrat party that people that don't follow the rules, don't follow the rules, therefore, they are in violation of damn near all societal norms and rules. But all of you put there, don't fret, they'll change societal norms so that what these offenders do will be acceptable behavior, just so we can all be miserable victims. I can't wait to get out of here.

12/21/2019 12:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I carry my pistol and when I use my GPS to find the best route to where I'm going and it directs me on the surface streets through one of those areas I know to be unsafe for anyone, I alter my route. I'm not driving through there. Between smash and grabs, uninsured stoned drivers, car jackings, fools wandering in and out of traffic and Pookie shooting at anything that moves can live without my presence in their shitty hood.

12/21/2019 01:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Once again. 98+ percent of the residents in 011 are black. If I work in 011, pretty much EVERYONE I stop is going to be black just based on where I work. Crime in the 011th district is rampant. Traffic stops are going to be much more frequent in this area due to the crime in the area. An area like 016 has mostly white and Hispanic people living there. The crime rate is drastically lower in 016. I’m willing to bet the traffic stops in 016 are more than half as less than 011. I’m willing to bet traffic stops in 011 have more white and Hispanic stops than blacks. Same goes for 008, 006, 015 etc etc etc. if I work in a district where 99 percent of the residents are black then odds are that’s who I’m going to be coming into contact with all day long. Not because I’m picking them out on purpose but because that’s who lives their, works there, shops there and commits crimes there. See the trend???



NOW JUST STOP RIGHT THERE! You are using logic and common sense here and those may as well be 4 letter words to the liberal-police hating left. They want everyone to think the way they think...not self opinion and thought.

12/21/2019 01:08:00 PM  
Blogger 30 pending and what said...

Is the aclu looking at body cam videos where you explain to them the reason for the stop or they dont want to hear that. When i came on in 1995 my fto was non stop with me, now, fto dont even volunteer the ppo's for paper which should at least be a priority.

12/21/2019 01:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's do what the CFD does sit in the stations and wait for your job. Handle accordingly 19P and drive back and wait in the back of the line until your next job. While traveling to and from your job put blinders on and don't look for anything. Being a police officer these days is harder than being a brain surgeon. Your doomed from the minute you put on your costume. All those stops and who's going to take the blame and suffer the consequences? The poor officer will take the blame and suffer the consequences? NUTS!!

12/21/2019 01:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ACLUs buisness and money maker is to continue the rhetoric of "Keeping the black man down"

Same for all preacher, politicians hustlers in the community. This is their business. Create the illusion of racism to get funds Green money to "imporve the disparity".

12/21/2019 01:25:00 PM  
Blogger Crusty said...

Point this out and you'll hear a two word counter-argument: "You racist!"

12/21/2019 01:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They cry when you do something. They cry when you do nothing. They cry when everyone shows up. They cry when nobody shows up.they just cry.

12/21/2019 01:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Person shot in Garfield Ridge/Clearing area. Most residents are white or Hispanic. Many residents are police, fire, or city workers. The offenders were caught. They did not belong to either category I just mentioned. Go figure

12/21/2019 02:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do these ACLU numbers include the number of car-jacked vehicles being pursued? Wonder who the vast demographic of these carjackers could be? Hmmmm...

12/21/2019 02:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's why Eddie Johnson is hated around these parts

12/21/2019 02:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Traffic stops are up?? Man,the current crop of CPD must be slow learners. I can imagine now some of the C students are going to get the bright idea to hammer White senior citizens with petty BS tickets to avoid any controversy.

12/21/2019 02:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
The main reason for and continuance of those TSSS cards was that the ACLU never got their annual desired results so they badgered the departments to keep it up until they had some alleged ammunition.
Think about it.
—————————
The main reason for this study is millions of dollars in grant money fund this study at U of C. Barry’s alma mater. It’s all about the money. Always follow the money.

12/21/2019 04:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I do not believe this report.
I do not believe traffic stops are up.
They should be DOWN.
I can not believe that CPD has this many fools.
You can lose it all, job, pension, freedom for a traffic violation.
Why risk it?

12/21/2019 04:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why the fuck is anyone even stopping traffic violators ???? I forgot, you need your activity for VRI. You have to pay off your Harley, Ford F150, and your Jeep. LIVE WITHIN YOUR MEANS !!!!!

12/21/2019 05:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOL guess the pressure is on in Lloyd the predominately white neighborhoodsand to stop and arrest more white folks. Only way to even the score. But wait noto many police in those areas all been to the bad areas. Solution redeploy the police to white areas and stop and ticket anything moving. Right? Problem solved except crime and killing goes way up in bad areas with fewer police. RIGHT. So tell the ACLU to to Hell. There problem really solved!!!

12/21/2019 05:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Blacks, who make up 13 percent of the US population, committed 85.5 percent of those victimizations, or 540,360 felonious assaults on whites, while whites, 61 percent of the population, committed 14.4 percent, or 91,470 felonious assaults on blacks.

Regarding threats to blacks from the police: A police officer is 18.5 times more likely to be killed by a black male than an unarmed black male is to be killed by a police officer.

12/21/2019 11:09:00 AM

Here's to your bullshit stats try it somewhere else!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2015/01/09/are-black-or-white-offenders-more-likely-to-kill-police/

12/21/2019 05:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ACLU once a big supporter of the BWC now has had some second thoughts on it's use claiming it is an invasion of privacy. The only invasion of privacy is showing the truth with citizen police interaction. Those interactions do not show the racist narrative that they hopped for. They now are complaining abut aerial surveillance.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/baltimore-civil-rights-groups-oppose-aerial-surveillance-pilot-program-aimed-at-stemming-violent-crime

12/21/2019 05:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Because the bus/parking lane is NOT a friggin' passing lane. Bam.

12/21/2019 05:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why ANY of you are still pulling ANY traffic stops of ANY sort is simply beyond me.

Your command has made it clear - you can't win. Good stop - they'll find a problem. Bad stop - YOU found a problem.

I left the business 32 years ago, after 9 years on the street. You don't have enough money to get me out there today.

Any of you still doing anything but responding to calls for service or Assist The Officer -- you have truly lost your minds. You think if you're good-hearted, it will turn out well. It won't.

12/21/2019 05:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"With a 15% solve rate how do you know 80% of homicides are black?"


Presuming that you did not mean, 'how do we know that 80% of all homocides are proven to be black by the fact that the corpe(s) is/are black dead people, I proceed:


To solve a crime and to know who commited that crime are not the same thing.

Just as to post a comment posing a question and to not have a fucking clue as to the answer is not the same thing as being smart, fredo.

Not even being a smart ass.

Now.

Confess to all the crimes you have committed and our tainted county SA will not prosecute.

C'mon, bunky.

You know you did them.

12/21/2019 06:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who has oversight of the ACLU ?

12/21/2019 06:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"We're all looking for Dr. King's dream, but that path goes through some hard truths, and I don't mean just hard truths for people of color like this one happens to be. When we all get rowing the same direction, the boat is gonna stop floundering.
12/21/2019 11:41:00 AM"



MAGA was the way in 2016.

Now KAG is the way, in 2020.


There is no way in democrat plantation politics, crook county version.

There has never been a way in democrat plantation politics, any version.

And this state is total democrat plantation politics controlled.

From city areas to suburbs just as corrupted by democrat plantation politics, this county of the crooked has been, and is, jim crow in effect for over half a century now.

It takes a man to stand on his own two feet.

It takes a woman to stand on her own two feet.

It takes neither to settle for being a lacky.

First is judging oneself by content of ones own character.

That is what is lacking within the lacky minded.

There is no law that can compel the mind and soul of the man or woman who defines their own character as being worthy of the MLK ideal.

It is as it has always been; physician, first, heal thyself, then do no harm.

We are all Christ when we choose to "Be as I am.".

12/21/2019 07:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blogger 30 pending and what said...
Is the aclu looking at body cam videos where you explain to them the reason for the stop or they dont want to hear that. When i came on in 1995 my fto was non stop with me, now, fto dont even volunteer the ppo's for paper which should at least be a priority

My PPO partners learn through the jobs which are ASSIGNED to us. That’s it. Why would any FTO volunteer for more liability. For what?
I took the FTO position to help PPO’s make it through probation, not help them catch CR’s, suspensions or break their backs for this city. Most come out of the academy fetal so my job is easy. Instructors are teaching them right. It isn’t about lazy but rather self preservation... and no, we don’t care how many years you have on or how many awards or heads you got. Pull an RD and do the paper.

#FUCKOUTOFHERE

12/21/2019 07:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"As police traffic stops continue to spike in Chicago..."

They write that as if it's a contagion. You heard em, folks. Don't do your job.

12/21/2019 07:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"They cry when you do something. They cry when you do nothing. They cry when everyone shows up. They cry when nobody shows up.they just cry."

And, after decades of doing this - as Liberace famously said - they cry all the way to the bank.

12/21/2019 09:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guys have the answers to the sergeants test in a txt message on their phones.Said they came in a txt msg from head quarters... this means that some people had the answers before the department even corrected the exams. Which implies that some had the answers a head of the test. FOP what do you think????????????????????????????

12/21/2019 09:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've worked in predominantly Minority districts so my observations may be tainted. But a large percentage of the drivers Ive stopped, Black and Hispanic do not possess valid licenses, so would it not make sense that they would be more likely to be poor or untrained drivers and as such be more likely to commit traffic violations?

12/21/2019 10:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They don’t want street stops , so traffic stops it is. Street stops they get a ibonded out in a hour, traffic stops the car gets impounded and they have to pay 2 grand at least . You can thank the ACLU for this lol !

12/21/2019 10:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This whole thing is just so insane. Looking at the stats w/o digging deeper into them only conveys the message that supports the bullshit narrative espoused by the leftists.

To gain the true picture and determine if anything untoward is actually occurring, one would have to review the Stats for EACH District, and compare/contrast against the demographics of the individual District. For instance, if 90% of the residents of a District are Black, and 90% of the traffic stops are Blacks, nothing to see.

If 90% are black, and 10% of the stops are Blacks - dig deeper into EACH individual stop's circumstances to determine WHY. What's the ROOT CAUSE? Lots of whites going to a black neighborhood to buy drugs, and getting pulled over with drugs? Again, nothing to see. Just maybe some need to focus on the drug supply chain.

In some cases, it may be that you determine that there's only a few officers who are responsible for a majority of the traffic stops. What's the deal there? If the officers are black, and they're pulling over blacks, can you still make a case for racism? Who knows?

But these kinds of questions are DIFFICULT, take time, require some actual brain power and someone THINKING about this shit. Lots of investigating, digging into the data and the data behind the data. And damn it - it might be that after all that work that you DON'T have anything which supports your bullshit narrative, and you can't have that.... >sarcasm<

12/21/2019 10:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So I guess PPO's won't learn how to do traffic stops and officer safety protocols from you then.
Great Job FTO!
Maybe you should give up the patch so they can learn more from someone else.

12/22/2019 01:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey, I never pulled anyone over.

12/22/2019 06:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well in 016 you cant get stopped by the Police cause we dont have any police. They are all in west/south side districts trying to get the citizens to stop murdering each other.

12/22/2019 07:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Forgive my ignorance. What does it mean: " treat Chicago citizens equally?"
I expect police to enforce the law and if somebody breaks it, intervene.
Now we are going to pull over innocent people only because they are white, just to make it even??
Or, we just stop making stops only because somebody's black?
BTW. I am going to Marshall today to get some free merchandise. Don't you dare to stop me. I will sue you!
Talking about equall..

12/22/2019 07:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

> With a 15% solve rate how do you know 80% of homicides are black?

Wow. You have to be kidding. You don't have to solve a murder to have been provided a description of the offender(s) by witnesses, video, etc. That's how we know.

12/22/2019 09:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12/21/2019 07:35:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"They cry when you do something. They cry when you do nothing. They cry when everyone shows up. They cry when nobody shows up.they just cry."

And, after decades of doing this - as Liberace famously said - they cry all the way to the bank.

12/21/2019 09:03:00 PM


And the ACLU will cry out in pain as they sue you.

12/22/2019 11:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A blind man can see what officers have to go through. And in Chicago, hell, I wouldn't do what many of you have to for $250K/yr salary.

The traffic stops might be the easy part. How about when they're scraping the human remains off the sidewalks. The traffic accident deaths on city streets because they were driving like they were possessed by Satan.

May hat's off to you folks.

12/22/2019 02:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A scientific study designed by the Public Service Research Institute in Maryland took photos with high-speed camera equipment and a radar gun of nearly 40,000 drivers on the turnpike. The researchers then showed the photos to a team of three evaluators, who identified the race of the driver. The evaluators had no idea if the drivers in the photos had been speeding. The photos were then correlated with speeds. Black drivers made up 16 percent of the drivers on the turnpike, and 25 percent of the speeders in the 65-mile-per-hour zones, where profiling complaints are most common. (The study counted only those going more than 15 miles per hour over the speed limit as speeders.) Black drivers speed twice as much as white drivers, and speed at reckless levels even more. Blacks are actually stopped less than their speeding behavior would predict—they are 23 percent of those stopped.

https://www.city-journal.org/html/racial-profiling-myth-debunked-12244.html

12/22/2019 04:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is 17 doing that their crime stats are so low. Excused by Riccio from Compstat during summer before Lemmer could sink his teeth into them. Last week Compstat meeting they were up and Lemmer had nothing to say to them. What’s up? Playing with numbers?

12/22/2019 06:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Blogger 30 pending and what said...
Is the aclu looking at body cam videos where you explain to them the reason for the stop or they dont want to hear that. When i came on in 1995 my fto was non stop with me, now, fto dont even volunteer the ppo's for paper which should at least be a priority

My PPO partners learn through the jobs which are ASSIGNED to us. That’s it. Why would any FTO volunteer for more liability. For what?
I took the FTO position to help PPO’s make it through probation, not help them catch CR’s, suspensions or break their backs for this city. Most come out of the academy fetal so my job is easy. Instructors are teaching them right. It isn’t about lazy but rather self preservation... and no, we don’t care how many years you have on or how many awards or heads you got. Pull an RD and do the paper.

#FUCKOUTOFHERE

12/21/2019 07:16:00 PM

............................

My FTO, Elijah Harris, (RIP) died from being gut shot by a kid on a bike. The worst part, other than, obviously, his murder, is that it happened while on the way to the station to sign off. His furlough started the next day. He should have been lunch on the end and long gone, rather than stopping the kid on the bike.

Moral of the story: Stay fetal.

12/22/2019 06:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why the fuck is anyone even stopping traffic violators ???? I forgot, you need your activity for VRI. You have to pay off your Harley, Ford F150, and your Jeep. LIVE WITHIN YOUR MEANS !!!!!

12/21/2019 05:00:00 PM
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Amen! Also, double or triple up on your 457 contributions.

12/22/2019 06:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mayor Lori Lightfoot , Superintendent Charlie Beck don’t worry about the slackers that were waiting for a political merit promotion to sergeant from corrupt alderman , politicians or our unqualified merit exempt command staff . Time to promote the Police Officers that have been studying since the last sergeant exam , preparing , giving up hours of family time to be one of Chicago Finest Sergeants .
You both know CPD needs qualified supervisors , make a minimum score of 70% required to move forward to part two of the Sergeants exam .
Maybe next time those that want merit , political promotions will study for the test .
Look at the merit involved in corrupt, other wrong doing , latest casualty of corruption is now retired Superintendent Eddie Johnson , assignments, promotion for sexual favors on duty , driving while intoxicated , who knows what else . Uniform store scandal , Lieutenant exam scam scandals.
Both of you can change the management of CPD , do it .

12/22/2019 07:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess my question is who the fuck is stopping any one
At this point ? 490,000 ?!? WTF ? I thought we were being
FETAL ? I have found a way to beat the ACLU and the bullshit
Consent Decree and the Dept. and all there bullshit about
Merit promotions and the unfair practices blah blah blah
I don’t do anything anymore and that led me to not give
A fuck anymore and one day I woke up and I realized
None of that shit bothers me anymore WOW !!! I get paid
Pretty good money to do nothing and it appears that pretty
Soon there gonna want me to do even less for the same
Pay best job in the world !!!!!

I no , I no , I’m a dog ass etc oh look it’s almost the 1st I would
Stick around to read your bullshit comments about how bad I am
But I gotta go to the bank bye bye !!!

12/22/2019 10:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Be careful what you say and how you say it. Yes it's obvious if you're patrolling a predominantly black area you're going to stop mostly blacks. But then they'll say well why are there predominantly black only areas? Why don't Edison Park Oriole Park Norwood Park etc etc have more blacks? We need to do something about that.

12/23/2019 07:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ralph Papa Thorson Says:


common sense dictates that if you have more street police working in black neighborhoods, they will see more drivers in those neighborhoods committing traffic violations. What is so hard to understand ? Forget the leftist nonsense and apply Logic.

12/23/2019 12:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...while whites, 61 percent of the population, committed 14.4 percent, or 91,470 felonious assaults on blacks."

That's not true - common experience tells you it isn't. To come up with this lie, the government deliberately counts "Hispanics" as whites when they victimize, but as Hispanics when they are victims.

12/23/2019 06:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


That's not true - common experience tells you it isn't. To come up with this lie, the government deliberately counts "Hispanics" as whites when they victimize, but as Hispanics when they are victims.

12/23/2019 06:47:00 PM

Bingo.

12/23/2019 10:45:00 PM  

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