Schools Out for Year?
- Mayor Lori Lightfoot on Monday outlined a plan for “remote learning” — including the distribution of lap-top computers to needy students — leaving one aldermen to conclude that Chicago Public Schools students have attended their last day of in-person classes this academic year.
“They’re doing remote learning for the rest of the year . . . We have no expectation of them going back,” Ald. Ray Lopez (15th) told the Sun-Times after a conference call with the mayor.
Pressed on whether Lightfoot said students would not return to school buildings for the rest of the year, Lopez said, “I don’t know if that was the exact words. But that’s the implication — that the rest of the school year will be remote learning. I don’t know why they’d have to go back if they’re all learning at home.”
So when can we expect a property tax rebate from the City? After all, the CPS levy has gone up the maximum for the past 100 years or so. If the schools are closed and there are no expenses associated with educating students, there ought to be a massive refund due to taxpayers.
These are tough times. We need every bit of savings that Groot can provide to her employers - taxpaying citizens.
UPDATE: This is fucking ridiculous - schools might be closed the rest of the year, but CPS is still paying teachers....and this is even being seriously discussed?
These are tough times. We need every bit of savings that Groot can provide to her employers - taxpaying citizens.
UPDATE: This is fucking ridiculous - schools might be closed the rest of the year, but CPS is still paying teachers....and this is even being seriously discussed?
- Students won’t be forced to make up any of these missed days, but the governor’s order gives districts the option of adding days into the summer while allowing teachers and staff to earn extra pay for any added time.
Labels: money questions
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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Property tax rebate?
Surely you jest
Property tax increase. After all they are now buying all the "poor" children PC's so they can learn at home
Did your kid get a free PC?
Huh.....explains why all my teacher acquaintances aren't feeling the squeeze like so many others. Damn they have a kick ass union.
We can't strike. Time for a state law outlawing strikes by teachers. Force them to arbitration as do the police and fire.
Image telling a teacher your day off is cancelled and your working the 3rd watch on Thanksgiving?
Teachers need to start paying their fair share into that pension like every other city employee. Remember they were paid in full for all of those strike days too!
OMG the teachers should give back every check & the raises they received for not working. Ridiculous
And we can’t get a contract !!!!
It’s not a question, teachers and everyone working in the schools are getting paid till the end of the year. And staff that are working in the closed building are paid time and half for the rest of the year as well. So police on the front lines at risk for getting sick , and they sit in a closed building must be nice .
Maybe the teacher's union contract negotiators are available for CPD now that CPS has their contract? Seems could use the help . . .
There is absolutely no reason that the little darlings should not be back in school when social distancing is ended. This is out control and so will the crime numbers.
I wish we could join the teachers union. $$$$$
Well 21,000 teachers won’t be able to teach on the computer video screens. 21,000 with nothing to do breeds trouble! Give them something to do since they are getting paid. Maybe work at the 3,000 bed hospital they are setting up at McCormick Place or any of the other hospitals. Delivering food to old people who cannot leave their houses. There are a lot of companies that are begging for workers to keep the supply chain going. If the city doesn't find work for them while it is paying their salaries some of these teachers will get a temporary job elsewhere and double dip.
The green roofs will now be adding 🌲 trees. Every major high rise will be required to allow the City of Chicago to plant three trees for every 360 square feet of plantable roof space. The trees will be owned and operated by the City of Chicago. The imported trees from the U.S. Department of Engraving are in fact money trees. Every spring, they will blossom and then grow $20 bills and some will even grow $100 bills. Estimates, conducted by the Department of Finance, anticipate that these trees will be able to close the massive budget hole created by lost revenue from Covid-19. Some Alderman are planning to use surpluses for illegal alien “freebie”’programs and guaranteed basic income per low income household of $12,000. After this Covid-19 dust settles, Groot will fly on her magical unicorn 🦄 and become a famous pop star ⭐️ equal to Michael Jackson in his heyday.
It’s the teachers people. One communist will NEVER EVER stop the money flow to another communist comrade let alone a group of communist comrades.
Schools closed = no need for buildings, janitorial service, food service, text books.
OR all of those half-assed scheisters posing as teachers.
Maybe need 10% of them. That's all of the students that really give a shit anyway. The rest of them are just going through the motions so that the gravy train can continue to run.
Time to shut it down. Tell those no-talent assclowns that if they want a job - they can teach remote classes YEAR ROUND. No more of this 3 months off horseshit + every half-baked holiday on top of that + INSTITUTE days (whatever those are)...
ZERO fucking OT. And I want a damned TAX REBATE. Otherwise, I bet that they're gonna have a lot of people saying "FUCK YOU" to the tax assessor. And shortly after that, shit will get real and change will happen post haste.
After this is over, there will be no more school. No more FED. No more Democrat party. Freedom at last
Anyone have a USGS map to compare against the current one?
If the "needy" have been out of class this long without any connection to the schools what's the point in giving them laptops now that there is only 2 months of school left?
I mean other than enriching who ever gets the contract to sell $200 laptops to the city for $600.
Just give everyone the made up passing grade they were going to get and be done with it.
What we've discovered for future reference is we can do with a lot fewer teachers by using at home teaching.
The teachers have a real union and a contract, which the FOP can not get. As to not working, my wife as a teacher is learning a new video teaching app and working everyday at home. Are you making sure your little darling is doing assigned homework everyday? You should be wondering less about what your teacher is doing and more about what your kids are doing.
We are in contention for worst public schools in nation anyway,and throwing bucketloads of cash to teachers no show no work jobs, but then again the teachers union gives millions back to democrats in campaign contributions, yep our taxes back to elected pay for play the Chicago way. The most corrupt city state county in the nation probably the world! Teachers could be easily laid off at least 1/3, close the school buildings obviously not needed anymore, termination of administrators billions saved look at that surplus! That would be change we can believe in,making Chicago great again!
Lesson for all you unemployed salespeople, bartenders and hairdressers out there. Get an inside city job like CPS teacher or City Hall clerk. Just stay the hell away from being a Chicago Police Officer. Not all city union jobs are equal. {cough-cough-hack} Trust us.
Think about this the demand for teachers just wentbwayndo2n with remote learning. Class size is no longer a factor. One first grade teacher could have 100 students or 1000.
Remote learning, whatever that means. The "learner" very, very remote from learning, as in no school. Hooray!
Guess our property tax increase went into purchasing ‘100,000 laptops for e-learning.’ Someone needs a salary to drive each laptop to the student’s address. Will these computers be returned when school reopens? Will students get another one after their laptop gets ‘stolen?’
I can hear all the little brain cells in City Hall scrambling to come up with a solution. Mighty noisy.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
You get a diploma, and you get a diploma and you get a diploma...
I feel more sorry for the Class of 2020 who will now go without their customary cap and gown graduation portrait to be busted out for future felons to show how studious these individuals were. Knowing this Mayor, she’ll quickly commission professional photographers to each 8th grader and senior’s home for their customized graduation picture (that they paid for already,). It’s already a given that everyone passed their final exams and nobody will be held back!
Wuhan Virus will bury the story to page three. New puppet will get a pass until it is to late.
CAREFUL what you wish for.
Substitute teachers are also getting paid. Many of whom are also drawing a CPS pension.
If they did that the lil b--ches would cry and cry. Groot would never allow that to happen to the poor cry babies.
maybe the police need sharkey to run our union..........
Keep an eye on what these commie creeps try to put in your kids head while they sit at home on line. Perfect opportunity to fill their heads with shit. Check out this young youtube star, before she gets banned. Well worth a watch, if you don't want your kid walking around in the wrong clothes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PTidKvwrSxE&t=1167s
Okay. I'm not a huge fan of CTU.
But Contracts are Contracts, and unless there is a Pandemic Clause in the CTU Contract that allows CPS to keep their annual Pay for days not worked due to shuttered Schools..
Pay them. This isn't a Strike. This one isn't On the Teachers.
This IS why, however, we need an Elected and not Appointed School Board.
IMO, teachers should be at the Schools Every day doing the Remote Learning Classes, and any student that doesn't log in, gets an F for the day. Plus if the gear is damaged they are held back until Mommy and Daddy pay to replace it.
The honor students of CPS hit the streets! Fun times await for shops downtown... And uptown... Any part of town really. Thanks for instilling Chicago values in the CPS student yutes there teachers... Thanks!
The property tax "rebate" will come in the form of raising assessments a mere 25% and not 30% as wanted. Enjoy that rebate!
No more pencils, no more books, no more teacher's dirty looks!
Time for those CPS students to take it to the streets and get a real world education! (real world = crime spree and numerous assaults)
Remote learning = video games and Netflix all day for the wee ones... Plus free laptops!
Your tax dollars working very hard!
You know what’s crazy is now during our contact negotiations the city will have a reason not to increase our wages after our economy has been at all time high. They will cite the unemployment rate and how the economy has fallen and that we are in a “recession”. Almost identical scenario with arbitrator Ben. The teachers got their cut and again when it’s our turn we’re going to get it in the rear, but they expect us to work 12 hour days and canceled RDOs without protective gear
If they close schools I hope they still take graduation pictures. Otherwise they will halve no pictures for the obituary or the lawsuit
What’s worse- CPS teachers getting paid or these BS catholic schools still charging me full boat?!!!
They will not extend the education period past the last pre-determined day of education, which I believe is 05-Jun. If they did, it would interfere with everyone's scheduled vacations (except the police, they don't matter /sarc). The official order from the governor and the US board of ed is the Act of God does not require the days to be made up. What i'm more concerned with is since they are all home doing E-Learning, they cannot receive any detrimental grade towards their final grade during this time. Everyone gets a pass for the final quarter/trimester.
As opposed to laying off all teachers without pay and having zero remote learning? Because you want $300 in taxes back? Gtfo Remember, many hard working city workers have children and spouses in CPS. Put your anger somewhere else that makes more sense, it’s not a good look for us.
There will be no property tax rebate and you can expect a tax hike to pay for all the computers that will not be returned. "I was robbed, I lost it, my dog ate it, etc."
And still no contract! Sure hope TIF funds are going to pay for all of this. But hope in this city is lost. But did you know Safe Passage workers are still collecting checks! They show up on corners or in their cars without any schools open and collect their checks
CTU forced negotiations for teachers to e-teach. That’s right. They were still getting paid AND now they get extra pay to do what they were already getting paid to do!!! CTU is the WORST!! Commie assholes.
JC is the closest thing FOP will get to sharkey
e learning is also a plan to make college affordable one professor can teach 1,000's of students , students can pay tuition of $200 per class , No credit for class until tuition is paid .
This distance learning thing can work in households that are work and learning - motivated and have access to sufficient technology. Plus, it takes discipline on both the students' and parents' sides to make it work. How many CPS households have all this in order to assure some level of success? Look to LA for a "preview of coming attractions", this is happening here, too:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/los-angeles-high-school-students-absent-online-learning-coronavirus
15,000 LA high school students absent from online learning since coronavirus shut down schools
"Some 15,000 Los Angeles high school students have not participated in any online learning since schools were forced to shut down in wake of coronavirus, new data shows.
On top of that, a further 26,000 of the 105,000 high school students participating in online classes have not checked in on a daily basis since institutions closed on March 16, although some of those students may have been assigned coursework that did not require logging on.
The figures, released by Supt. Austin Beutner on Monday, demonstrate how difficult the transition to online learning in wake of coronavirus shutting down schools, is proving.
“It’s simply not acceptable that we lose touch with 15,000 young adults or that many students aren’t getting the education they should be,” Beutner said Monday. “This will take some time and a good bit of trial and error to get it right. And it will take the continued patience and commitment of all involved — students, families and teachers.”
About 25 percent of L.A Unified’s 600,000 students don’t have internet access to home, according to EdSource. L.A Unified is the country’s second-largest schools district.
Last week, the district said it was investing $100 million in providing Chromebooks and tablets, as well as free internet access in conjunction with Verizon, to all students who did not already have it.
“The great big digital divide many have spoken about is very real in the communities we serve,” Beutner said.
He said many who have been disconnected include the “most vulnerable students”.
“It might be students in the foster system. It might be students who are experiencing homelessness. It might be students who were living in deep poverty. Those are students who struggle with attendance in ordinary times.
“The harder part is not the technology,” he said. “The harder part is establishing a connection to the student. And I don’t mean a digital connection. I mean that human connection of some sort.”
UC Berkeley education and African American studies professor Janelle Scott told the Los Angeles Times: “This crisis has laid bare what we always knew — how equitable opportunities are so dependent on parental background and wealth and access to resources.
“Having a physical school does really matter and having caring adults around who can support children and family is vital...”
CPS tax levies are non-contestable and written into the law as set percentage gets added every year without any need for approval.
Teachers are entitled to pay is questionable - Larri had closed the bakery, the baker doesn’t get paid. Same for the butcher and the candlestick maker.
CPS Preparedness is being prepared at this moment and a study being conducted on when a prepared course of study will be ready to implement once the curve is smooved. If the teachers, aides, assistant to the aides aren’t sick now, they will be.
There’s this e-learning thing being explored, though some of the dated electronic curriculum needs to have they’ pronouns adjusted and offensive, triggering historic references removed before hand.
Once the CPS gets 100,000 devices*, there’ll be an airdrop distribution somehow late next month and lesson plan readied by June.
Is that Free Sanctuary WiFi completed yet? (*350,000 registered students and 78% graduation rate, ain’t nobody getting left behind)
No word from the Prepared CPS if the school year will be extended to makeup these lost days of educating the at-risk chiltrens.
Expect plenty of pushback - for the kids. Mmmm-hmmm.
Full pay for half-a-year teaching AND additional overtime opportunities? This shouldn't just be "no".....but "Fuck No!"
Shaddup. Unless you want the Communists chaining themselves together in the middle of the expressway, you will pay.
The teachers have a real union and a contract, which the FOP can not get.
Are you an idiot.
The teachers go on STRIKE days after their contract expires.
The teachers seem to care less for the little darlings then they care about a contract and pay raise.
The teachers still barely contribute into their own pension with us taxpayers picking up the slack with ever increasing property taxes.
The teachers do not stand up and protest the ridiculously low standards, as set by politicians, that they use to graduate and pass students.
The police DO NOT HAVE THE OPTION OF A STRIKE, even after their contract expired 3 years ago.
The police continue to care for and protect the law abiding citizens of Chicago, even though pay has been frozen for almost 3 years.
The police contribute close to 11% of each check into their pension.
The police continuously protest the ridiculous abuse of the judicial system and policing tactics by the politicians who degrade our profession and hard working officers.
But this is just common knowledge.
With these daily stories about everything related to this Pandemic isn't it strange how there has not been even one story on the CPS Teachers being paid full salary for doing nothing?They should have went to teaching online immediately to justify getting paid.There is no reason to pay them.They should have been laid off.
You should be wondering less about what your teacher is doing and more about what your kids are doing.
3/31/2020 03:52:00 AM
Hell no your wife is paid with tax dollars. She should have a body camera so every taxpayer can see how she's doing her job and comment on it. All public employees should have body cameras now!
Every single employer is now damage control mode including CPS. They do not want to be dragged into a lawsuit because Billy's desk wasn't cleaned properly and he now has COVID 19. There are too many businesses at risk right now.
BEst part is even the people who are just sitting in the building now are making premium time. Nice to be a janitor right now.
I have 2 kids in private high school. They've been doing remote learning since this pandemic started. They have to check in by 0830 and most classes assignments due by 1530 every day. When they both started it was prerequisite to buy a ipod where my son goes and a chromebook where my daughter goes. My sister's kids are in public school but out in the burbs. Her kids also have a regimented remote class day. CPS is a communist operation. Wtf isn't in their contract that they can never hold the city hostage again and not be able to strike?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Guess our property tax increase went into purchasing ‘100,000 laptops for e-learning.’ Someone needs a salary to drive each laptop to the student’s address. Will these computers be returned when school reopens? Will students get another one after their laptop gets ‘stolen?’
3/31/2020 05:34:00 AM
Fear not. If they run out of money you will see it on the next real estate tax levy. It’s for the children
Cantazara is the closest thing to CPS Sharkey , but he’s bigger and badder
Sharkey a fighter but nothing like JC
Full pay , no work .
Is there anything in CPD contract that states if any city employee receives a day off with pay FOP members will be compensated in comp time
Why aren’t field houses and closed schools being used for homeless
I swear it's like the public school system is trying to destroy society. The kids cant read write or so math but they teach them about how everything's the white man's fault, police brutality, disrespect authority, being trans is cool LGBT.....
Should have got some BS liberal arts degree and became a school teacher. Whoops.
Look at this bodycam video from a school in Denver the place is so cultlike and creepy. https://youtu.be/HKr8PCQuDbw
You can bet your sweet ass all the money this state and city receive from the government will go to the underprivileged. No money for police or fire, no money for contract or pensions. The democrats are salivating and can’t wait to get the fed money.
We need property tax relief!
http://chng.it/MywBB62S
The 'FREE' laptops, chromebooks should be a distinctive color and/or have large serial numbers to control the inventory so that when (not IF) they are lost, stolen or resold on the black market they can be somewhat traceable or at least have the ability to remotely shut-down or have the 'find my puter' option to minimize the projected abuse of taxpayers money.
Put the "paid" teachers to work cleaning, disinfecting the classrooms and facilities so 'when' they are able to return they are pristine clean.
Good luck asking the teachers to earn their stay at home salaries.
Just a thought...
Willing to bet half tablets lost by the end of the year. Hope they blocked port on the tablets.
Teachers in the entire state of Illinois are still getting paid, because they are working from home doing something called remote learning. It’s not a reward for teachers. Maybe you’ve heard, there is a pandemic that has caused many people in various fields to have to work from home. My guess is the whole country would rather be back in their offices, classrooms, etc..., than have to live under a shelter in place order. Also, teachers, aides, and security in CPS have been asked to babysit for healthcare workers and first responders children. And I’m glad to hear it finally said you need better union representation, although yours did pretty good for you. Today it was announced you get hotel rooms before doctors and nurses, who are dealing directly with covid-19 patients. You got those rooms before them solely because of your union. Remember that.
Ridiculous!!!
That music teacher is getting paid too. You cant make this shit up!
Who is paying for the CPS student's computers? Will they be required to return them (in as good a condition as received)? Will parent(s) be required to undersign their issue and be responsible/liable for their return?
Looks like the old Alice Cooper song schools out for summer has a lot of relevance here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBqiC5ox8Bw
But hey why not lay off at least 1/2 of the teachers and all of the administrative staff that would be the smart thing to do with the mayor will never do it that would save taxpayers billions if there’s no work or less work people get laid off all the other businesses have done it why can’t this be done with the overpaid sitting at home and the rest is teachers?
Can anyone think of some usage all the empty school could be used for?
Free tablets instead of free foams means more sophisticated and lethal attack mobs. How will the authorities be able to gently herd them home while maintaining social distancing guidelines? Why are they not immediately placing properly-distanced guide markers on strategic paths to the red line stations? Does Trump have to take charge and do it for them?
Maybe the teacher's union contract negotiators are available for CPD now that CPS has their contract? Seems could use the help . . .
I've watched this for 68 years:
CPS union: we want $$$$$$$
City: no, we give you $$
CPS union: S T R I K E ! ! !
City day 5: OK, here's $$$$$$$
CPS union: Pay us our strike days!
City: We'll pay you for half of them.
CPS union: It's a bad deal for us (LOL) we'll take it (LOL).
City: We did good, we won!!!
CPS union for CPD: We want $$$$$
City: no, what you gonna do.
CPS union for CPD: Strike!
City: You can't (ha ha ha)
CPS union for CPD: We want $$$, it's fair.
City: You'll get $$
CPS union for CPD: OK. Sorry cops, best we could get you.
CPS union TO CPD: You cops owe CPS union $, for services.
FOP: no way!
CPS union: S T R I K E ! ! !
City: FOP, you better pay, it's a fair fee for a wonderful contract.
FOP: Lays down, rolls over, and pays the fee.
Read the latest report in the LA Times - over 40,000 Los Angeles High School students are not connecting to the on line classes. What will the LA Schools do about it? Nothing. It is impossible to force students to sign on to remote classes.
The free Chicago School computers will be on sale at a corner location near you...
Can anyone think of some usage all the empty school could be used for?
CPD indoor range. Must start tomorrow. Gonna get real by weekend.
They call us pigs???
And any other business they have layoffs, since they were able to strike why isn’t the mayor able to finally stand up for herself stand up for the taxpayers and lay at least a big portion of them off! Since they’re going to learn at home anyway they could have one teacher for two or three classrooms that way there’s no individual instruction at all which they don’t do anyway half of them in the schools. This will teach a lesson to the disrespect they have for the taxpayers and the citizens of the city of Chicago going out on strike what kind of nonsense was that what kind of things are they allowed to pull?
One year from now:
"citizen you committed a traffic violation."
"I am so sorry officer, I'm a CPS teacher. We work together, right?"
"license and insurance info please."
"officer, I'm a Chicago teacher!"
"license and insurance info or face arrest."
"OK, here they are."
Problem: only district law enforcement gets to do this.
CAPS people, Dets, narco, gangs, HQ, etc won't have such fun.
Like every job action in the last 50 years, the special
police never participate. Only patrol does ticket blitzes,
ticket slow downs, fetal, etc.
Class Commander of 73-2F said:
The bad voices in my head wants 5,000 CPD out on the medical.
No body to die or get family sick. Just out for a real reason.
(Even my voices know over 30% will be fakers.)
All others would be ordered to their district of residence.
(Anybody remember Plan Green, Plan Blue, Plan Purple.
I don't know where my car keys are, but I remember them!)
All responding get forehead temperature check.
Those hot sent to nearby hotels, on city.
Those fit put on beat car.
Sgts & Lts will do medical checks with a forehead temperature gauges
to those at home on medical. CR to follow if not hot. Many Sgt & Lts will be
sent outside their normal assignments. PBPA will want time & a half pay.
CFD to do same in accordance to their orders.
Only REAL 1a or is it A1 emergency calls dispatched.
CPD & CFD stay safe!!!
Gladys Phelps v. School District No. 109, 302 Ill. 193 (1922)
Gladys Phelps was a school teacher in Wayne County and employed by the school district to teach at a salary of $50 per month. The Illinois State Board of Health closed the school for two months due to the influenza epidemic, and the school district refused to pay Phelps $100 for those two months. Phelps sued to recover her salary, and the Wayne County Circuit Court ruled for Phelps. The school district appealed to the Illinois Supreme Court, and the only question to be determined was whether Phelps was entitled to compensation when prevented from teaching because of the school being closed because of a public epidemic, while Phelps was “ready, able, and willing to teach.” The district argued that since the Board of Health closed the school (and not the school board), the district was released from liability to pay. Justice William Farmer affirmed the Wayne County Circuit Court judgment. Farmer noted that the contract stipulated reasons why the district could be released from liability and “the protection of lives and health of the community against the spread of a contagious epidemic” was not in the contract as a reason. Farmer concluded that the courts “will not insert by construction, for the benefit of one of the parties, a condition which they have omitted from their own contract.” Chief Justice Clyde Stone dissented but did not provide a written opinion as to why.
Interesting side note: Justice Stone got the flu in October 1918, when it was at its peak in Illinois and the country, but he recovered and returned to the Court for the February 1919 term.
Why not put body cameras on teachers? Enough of them seem to be sexually abusing students. If you got nothing to hide, what’s the problem.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Teachers in the entire state of Illinois are still getting paid, because they are working from home doing something called remote learning. It’s not a reward for teachers. Maybe you’ve heard, there is a pandemic that has caused many people in various fields to have to work from home. My guess is the whole country would rather be back in their offices, classrooms, etc..., than have to live under a shelter in place order. Also, teachers, aides, and security in CPS have been asked to babysit for healthcare workers and first responders children. And I’m glad to hear it finally said you need better union representation, although yours did pretty good for you. Today it was announced you get hotel rooms before doctors and nurses, who are dealing directly with covid-19 patients. You got those rooms before them solely because of your union. Remember that.
3/31/2020 03:14:00 PM
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Go fuck yourself asshat show a source that one shows cops, paramedics, and firefighters got rooms before hospital staff and two that the unions had anything to do with it.
You’re dead wrong learn your facts.
And 800 officers on Medical what are we gonna do with 274 rooms.
2 Bricks Short of a Load Says:
What's da difference, kids are mostly all dummies anyway.
Body cameras for CPS teachers is a great idea , it will prove 20-15% of teachers are dedicated and take verbal abuse from students .
It will show most classrooms are out of control , show class size everyday , half these kids cut class .
It will also show how many students act , threaten teachers .
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