Gas Mask Fit Testing
Seems the last minute fit testing up north is as expected - a disaster:
- Word of advice to everyone going to get N95 mask trained at Belmont & Western... When they put the hood over your head and spray the solution into it for the "test" part, when you put your mask on and fit it, NO MATTER WHAT, DO NOT say you "taste" the solution! Say you have a perfect seal! I "failed" the test because apparently I couldn't get a good enough "seal" and admitted to tasting the solution they sprayed, then I was told to throw my mask in the garbage can behind me. I do it, I ask "ok where do I get my replacement mask?" Figuring it's procedure to throw away all opened masks. P.O. says "you don't get a mask because you failed". They fill out a card saying you failed their (scientific? 100% fool-proof?) Test?! And I walk out without ANY mask!
The shortfalls in preparedness we've been seeing the past few weeks is nothing short of criminal
- No N95 masks,
- eight year expired sanitizer,
- not securing lobbies,
- no quarterly drills,
- no gas-mask fit testing since NATO,
- cancelled days off with almost no notice
- cancellation of the cancellation with zero notice,
- OEMC on the verge of collapse,
- no solid medical protocols in place for exposed officers
The list is damn near endless. This comes from years of misplaced priorities and spending practices on things that buy votes - nothing on keeping the population safe.
Labels: un-fucking-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
99 Comments:
Equipment and Supply.
Idiots.
Merit bosses.
Bigger idiots.
This is what 30 years of merit promotions gets you.there isnt one gold star that is capable of leading this department through a catastrophic event. Imagine if this happened all over a day or two like 9 11. This is a crisis with weeks upon weeks warning. Yet there is no plan and no one capable of leading us. I am a white shirt (all off score) and we are basically left on our own to figure out what to do concerning the daily issues that are constantly popping up. I see the fear and confusion on the faces of the officers and try to reassure them but they arent stupid and see that we are basically left to our own devices. I care what happens to the officers unlike the majority of gold stars and politicians and will continue to do so in spite of them.
Don’t tell them you use tobacco either, circle NO! I was refused an N95 mask for using tobacco products.
I went week ago and nobody sprayed anything on me, is this some new enhanced gas mask testing?
No soup for you!
Wait - if you don't taste or smell anything, doesn't that mean you have coronavirus?!
Sounds like WWII boot camps.
Working at the VA I learned that most of these guys
learned to lie in the Army as a means of survival.
I did this exact same thing. I said I couldn’t taste anything when I really could. I could t believe they were just throwing the masks out. I have an extra one going to the highest bidder
Don't worry, the Wihan, Chinese virus only works M-F, 9-5. Just like the guys conducting the training and fittings.
It's only a pandemic.
Hope all that top knob Fat Head was getting was worth getting caught by the Chinese virus with our preparedness pants down.
Ernest will demonstrate an even greater catastrophe.....
Yet another attempt at the President's reign of success!!!
Meanwhile Biden sniffs little girls hair and eats his own burgers on national tv, to get elected!
We are doomed. Game over. Let’s start all over!
Officer Friendly always told us, never let anyone put a hood over your head and then ask you if you can taste it. It’s a trick.
Since all the POs in districts have been provided with (or supposedly) provided with PPE and other equipment what happens to all the guys that work CTA, CHA and Parks ?? Shouldn’t these agencies be MANDATED to SPEND some 💰💰💰
Its what happens when you've had years of the department micromanaged by city hall and whatever mayor is in office ! Superintendent should be a voted in position especially a city this size !
Has anything this city/department ever done not been fucked up more often than not? While worried about the citizens, the mayor and department should be worried about them, the mayor and department put the members at the bottom of the ladder rungs as evidenced by their initial response to protection and well being of the officers. We are always an afterthought.
Do they make a mask that doesn't disturb that sexy scruffy stubble look?
Safe???
Safe, you say????
How
Dare
You!!!!
Whose bright idea was this? N95 masks are designed and regulated by FDA and label as single used disposable device. N95 masks are not intended for long term use like gas masks. Once you saturated a N95 masks with contaminants, the mask becomes ineffective, but more importantly, makes it harder fir the wearer to breath! If the department purposely saturated a N95 masks, then makes you to reuse the same mask, the department is jeopardizing your health and safety.
This is taken from the CDC website Recommended Guidance for Extended Use and Limited Reuse of N95 Filtering Facepiece Respirators in Healthcare Settings.
“Discard N95 respirators following use during aerosol generating procedures.”
https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/hcwcontrols/recommendedguidanceextuse.html
This is taken from OSHA website
Question 7: If OSHA considers the N95 filtering facepiece a respirator covered by the respiratory protection standard, what parts of paragraph (h) involving "maintenance and care of respirators" are applicable? Does the employer have to comply with Appendix B-2 involving "Respirator Cleaning Procedures"?
Response: The N95 filtering facepiece respirator is a "disposable respirator." It must be discarded after use, or when it becomes damaged or soiled. It cannot be cleaned and disinfected according to the method described in Appendix B-2. OSHA is presently not aware of any alternate procedures provided by respirator manufacturers in their user instructions that would allow for cleaning and disinfecting their filtering facepiece respirators.
https://www.osha.gov/laws-regs/standardinterpretations/2011-11-22-0
The Officers who had their N95 masks saturated with an aerosol spray and expected to reuse the same mask should file a grievance with the union or report an OSHA violation.
To all Officers, please take care of yourself and each other.
Signed,
A Retired Sgt
Get ready for 12 hour days, it may be happening sooner than you think. Make sure your family is provided for. We could be doing this for quite some time after the order comes out.
Per OSHA:
“ You must be fit tested before you use a respirator in the workplace, and you must be retested at least every 12 months to make sure that the respirator you use still fits you. You must be fit tested with the specific make, model, style, and size of respirator that you will be using.
Not everyone can get a good fit with one specific respirator. If the respirator fails the fit test, then another make, model, style, or size must be tried until one is found that fits you properly. Therefore, your employer needs to provide you with a reasonable selection of sizes and models to choose from”
very adept at funding bullshit that buys votes.
been saying it for a very long time+
SSC,
"Gas Mask Fit Test" N95 is NOT the gas mask!
20 people were chosen from each dist to be on the Corona virus response team. These officers will be fit tested with the N95 mask. This is not the regular gas mask.
But from what I hear the C50 gas mask testing is also a disaster.
People with "underlying" conditions are using that as an excuse to go on the medical. They're getting Doctors notes to stay home on a precautionary basis. This is nuts.
Wow. If your mask is bad then it’s bad. Don’t lie, you may need it sometime and you may need it to work. If you can taste it hen you have a bad seal. You will get a new mask I was told in about a week or two. Relax and don’t lie about stuff like that. Cops gotta scam and lie sometimes no matter what the cost. Just be legit for once.
Anyone else selected to the Covid-19 incident response team on their watch? it seems that they are not selecting officers using reverse seniority. They're picking people based on furlough. I'm pissed! Got selected because I have a summer furlough wtf!
There is a mask in your ppe kit if you are really worried about this.
When was the last recruit class to actually get real gas mask? Only two people on the watch have them.
What gas mask? They are fit testing the n95 mask, the same ones you can buy at Home Depot, Menards, your local Walgreens... but apparently if you have any pre-existing conditions, are at risk, you should just die and can’t get a mask from the department. They told my partner because he has a previous breathing condition (due to the war) he cannot be tested or provided a mask.
Anonymous said...
I went week ago and nobody sprayed anything on me, is this some new enhanced gas mask testing?
3/29/2020 12:13:00 AM
***Question??? Did anyone question them what the spray is and what it contains?? Is it expired too? Im sure somewhere down the line this will make us sick.
The City That Works???? Not so well it appears.
Typical of the police department. Tell the truth and you will find that you get nothing & nowhere. Lie and advance and keep doing so, until it’s a choice between you or someone with more clout being thrown under the bus for the lies- then you’re done.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Officer Friendly always told us, never let anyone put a hood over your head and then ask you if you can taste it. It’s a trick.
3/29/2020 12:44:00 AM
Above is the only thing I will miss about this job. Police humor.
Remember to blame President The Donald.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
People with "underlying" conditions are using that as an excuse to go on the medical. They're getting Doctors notes to stay home on a precautionary basis. This is nuts.
3/29/2020 04:43:00 AM
Normally I’d be inclined to agree with you, golden opportunity for scammers. HOWEVER... I know a few officers that are working that have legit health issues and should probably be home... a whole lot of officers don’t hit the medical ever, and for something like this that could actually turn out to be a serious problem....a problem greatly mitigated if we had even basic protective equipment. Something that’s a tad better than expired hand sanitizer and one 1 use mask. 25 year old Jane citizen shopping at jewel is wearing an N95 mask while a copper on blood pressure meds with asthma is responding to calls of people congregating at a house party with zero protection. What could possibly go wrong.
People with "underlying" conditions are using that as an excuse to go on the medical. They're getting Doctors notes to stay home on a precautionary basis. This is nuts.
3/29/2020 04:43:00 AM
Uh, I can understand your thinking however I like most enjoy living with the lung capacity I have and do not want it diminished any further so yes any symptom(s) I contact my physician and follow their medical advice. Thank you and stay safe everyone
P.S. don't hate your management position or merit ass kissing spot that leaves you feeling as though you can never hit the medical ÷)
Meanwhile Biden sniffs little girls hair and eats his own burgers on national tv, to get elected!
It's okay to scoff at the creepy old guy pervertedly sniffing a little girls hair but when its between two consenting adults I sometimes enjoy when my partner plays the role of the perverted creep breathing deep and hard on my neck as he sniffs this lil girls hair
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is what 30 years of merit promotions gets you.there isnt one gold star that is capable of leading this department through a catastrophic event.
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Second that.
The gas mask fit test was challenging because I couldn't understand that stuttering wanna be biker dude !
CDC said a week ago that the n95 test wasn't necessary.
Look it up
Don't worry, coronavirus severity is overrated - The Wuhan virus scare is another attempt by leftwing media to bring down President Trump, and his supporters.
Just when you think this department can’t get anymore fucked up then I read this.
INCOMPETENT CPD BOSSES
created by a corrupt former Supt. E. Johnson...
Add the political failures and lack of leadership...
You now have a disastrous CHICAGO
Nina Cozzo director of buildings has stated in an email that 2FM/AIS will not be providing masks , gloves and sanitizer as this is not required PPE. This Covid virus is a record able illness and osha has stated due to this status it should not be confused with PPE and an employer shall provide necessary safety items
Nina Cozzo has her supply of N95 masks in her office but none for the employees
There are confirmed cases at 2FM 39th facility and after 5 days of being in the same room an email was sent out after it was noticed that the private custodial staff who cleans building sprayed down an office ( What qualifications do they have to properly sanitize and office for germs)
Cozzo who has an office there on the 4th floor still requires foreman managers to sit together in a 30 x 30 room with at lease 20 cubicles
Now we hear that COZZO has decided to work from home while others in area are required to sit in a possible virus infected area
The employees were also graciously informed that we were "allowed" to wear masks and gloves if we have them
Nina Cozzo Director of Facilities in in charge of ALL city buildings and all complaints and concerns with the buildings facilitys and or safety should be directed to her.
Bonnie had to deal with NINA to get things done also
Hey NINA COZZO, Im not impressed so I wont be clapping
This is all TRUMPS' FAULT the Chicago Police Department & City of Chicago is not prepared, or doing anything correct!!
Mayor Lori Lightfoot
"Very good, very good. You know something? No mask for you. Come back-one year!"
IF THEY ARE CLEARING OUT THE JAILS, DART SHOULD BE GIVING ALL THEIR PPE TO LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENTS.
That the least he could do!
They are going to have an unused stockpile if they only have 4,000 to 5,000 inmates in Cook County - they may have less than that by this time next week or the following week.
Governor Fat Fuck is saying this is all Trump's fault. JB the Hut thought he was just buying a title...he never thought he would be expected to lead
How much did the City spend for "undocumented" citizens to get bullshit ID's?
Will they now have “merit” masks for those that fail?
People with "underlying" conditions are using that as an excuse to go on the medical. They're getting Doctors notes to stay home on a precautionary basis. This is nuts.
You're right. They should come to work while being twice as likely to die from the virus. Asshole.
Nothing should be sprayed on the "mask". There are two odorants commonly used. Banana oil and saccharin. A hood is placed over the persons head and a bottle of thr odorant put under the hood. If the "maak" does not fit you can smell and taste it.
The 95 mask is a particulate mask and is really not intended to be used like it is now. The use is for prevention of transmission of the wearer to others not the other way. You are better off with a good pair of close fitting ANSI safety glasses than these mask.
Remember the major transmission ways are through the eyes and nose. Keep your eyes covered, don't pick your nose, don't touch your eyes, wash your hands and butt!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
People with "underlying" conditions are using that as an excuse to go on the medical. They're getting Doctors notes to stay home on a precautionary basis. This is nuts.
3/29/2020 04:43:00 AM
Thank God that you don’t have any “underlying” conditions!
they were failing MANY people just based on the way they answered the 7 page questionaire. if you had any yes's they took yu in back asked a couple questions then told you you failed.
Missy the parking ticket guru said, “I went to get fitted and the man said does this smell like chloroform to you? As he held something up to my mask. That was the last thing I remember. Now there are pictures of me circulating around headquarters. Do you think I was exploited?””
as electrical fire responders, we get scba cert. every year. the masks with the replaceable filter elements will stop the test gas from being detectable. after seeing one guy say he could detect the bitterness (ha) from a bad seal/ beard leak whatever, i never even inhaled again, just, "nope." get this shit done, traffic is building.
the n95 masks y'all are getting (3m, fibreous type) won't stop any type of scent- they are particulate only. so the mask fit test you are receiving is bogus and not applicable.
you will smell and taste the spray. if you want the mask, don't inhale (i never exhaled). they're too stupid to understand.
Planning..? We don’ need no stinkin’ planning!
Same shit as post 9/11 - with Big Shorty assuring the media lapdogs that we had a plan!
Crisis management is the order of the day in Chi
Retired Sergeant at 0312 hits nail on the head. Truth! N95 mask is ONE and ONLY ONE use/ single use and disposable In use life span of N95 mask is no more than 8-12 hours on a dry/ no rain snow day. If N95 Mask gets wet from rain/ snow, effectiveness and life span are reduced, although I do not know how much. A wise precaution would be to place extra N95 Mask on anyone arrested, if possible, both to protect you, CCSO jail personnel, other arrestees
Some heads and faces just don’t take to the contours of a ridged mask.
You’re actually being led to believe a breathing mask is protection. Eyes exposed and airborne transfer contamination to clothing and hair are still possible.
What kind of mask are they issuing, are these medical grade or the hardware store variety?
No mask - no deployment to the danger zone - unless ordered by a higher up.
Document it. Get sick, injured, etc and hope for a full recovery is about all to be expected.
Seems preparedness took another backseat. Hurry up and wait for the City to catch up.
Shouldn’t a big metropolitan city/state always have a sufficient emergency supplies for any epic catastrophe?
Kinda makes sense that a target as large as ours to be prepared beyond a minimum.
That’s some big city police department Rahm built and Groot cares even less.
Not since NATO of 2012...and that was merely for tear gas when the angry unwashed antifa were given space to destroy.
Shameful and stupid that this city is such a failure...again.
City sure made the Sanctuary City ID program a speedy a top priority when it was launched.
Try not to blame the messengers fitting the masks.
The U.S. Attorney General William Barr should put that Maduro indictment effort on hold and lock up Larri LightLoafer & JB Pigfluenza for crimes against humanity, inciting public panic, denying freedoms, as well as allowing past criminal civil corruption and harboring of drug and human traffickers.
Being a retired chief from the suburbs, I can tell you that your command staff has truly failed you. Planning for this type of event is an integral part of their jobs. Unfortunately the politicians keep sticking their noses into things they don’t understand and promote individuals who are less than knowledgeable just because they kiss butt. This is true EVERYWHERE - not just the city. Stay safe and healthy (as best you can)!
Call OSHA and tell them the tests are not being performed in accordance with the CPD’s respiratory protection program and that safety is being compromised. It is unlawful for CPD to retaliate against anyone for this. File a complaint today.
Then again, The Democrats may own the local OSHA office and it just may be an fruitless endeavor. Never know.
If u wear glasses u are S O L ! The cost in 5 times vs the shit they got
CPD in 4 weeks will have 10 cars going the entire city. The bug is killing you poor souls with zero protection. Bug eyes will pay 175 a pop a night for trash that never contributed anything to mankind but drain the country
God bless you all.
"The Officers who had their N95 masks saturated with an aerosol spray and expected to reuse the same mask should file a grievance with the union or report an OSHA violation."
Then the dept should stop this "aerosol solution test" immediately. If you "pass" the test, they give you back the mask and you leave with it! The actual in-class training tells us we can reuse the mask if not exposed to contamination, they say to just store it in a paper bag or tissue box. Give us the training, give us an unopened mask & send us on our way. If faced with a situation, I don't care about a 100%seal! 50% or ANY obstruction from someone coughing in my direction is better than nothing!
I wouldn't be surprised if whoever from the city is acquiring these masks is paying "per mask" Sooo... the more they can order/go through, the more money the manufacturer is getting, and in turn, whoever mandated throwing out good masks is getting a kick-back from that manufacturer to order more masks. If they really cared about US they wouldn't throw out a perfectly good mask right in front of my eyes! These "tests" should stop immediately OR give EVERYONE their masks back. Now when can I go back and get another mask since I "failed"?
Anonymous said...
This is what 30 years of merit promotions gets you.there isnt one gold star that is capable of leading this department through a catastrophic event. Imagine if this happened all over a day or two like 9 11. This is a crisis with weeks upon weeks warning. Yet there is no plan and no one capable of leading us. I am a white shirt (all off score) and we are basically left on our own to figure out what to do concerning the daily issues that are constantly popping up. I see the fear and confusion on the faces of the officers and try to reassure them but they arent stupid and see that we are basically left to our own devices. I care what happens to the officers unlike the majority of gold stars and politicians and will continue to do so in spite of them.
3/29/2020 12:10:00 AM
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and caring.
Stop watching the fake news. It’s all bs. The worst case scenario for a healthy person is that you get a slightly more severe version of the common flu.
Does everyone have a gas mask? I never got one, although I did receive the replacement lenses for it. Idiots!
Anonymous said...
People with "underlying" conditions are using that as an excuse to go on the medical. They're getting Doctors notes to stay home on a precautionary basis. This is nuts.
3/29/2020 04:43:00 AM
Any why wouldn't you? This stuff could kill ya!
Chicago and Cook County received federal funding (as did all cities and counties with pubic health departments) to maintain a stockpile of supplies to be used in the event of an outbreak of communicable disease. Since the “stockpiles” are turning out to be a few boxes of outdated gloves and masks (and hand sanitizer), I wonder where the rest of the money went......?
OT: New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has been claiming that the federal government hasn’t provided his state with the ventilators they need, but later admitted that New York has a couple thousand ventilators in storage awaiting the peak in cases. I can’t help wondering if those ventilators - which are sorely needed at hospitals in New York City, by his claims - are nothing more than “paper” ventilators, existing only on an inventory sheet, with the money spent (or otherwise “diverted”) elsewhere.
It’s not like this would be the first time that funds meant for emergency supplies were used to pay off political supporters.
Anonymous said...
People with "underlying" conditions are using that as an excuse to go on the medical. They're getting Doctors notes to stay home on a precautionary basis. This is nuts.
3/29/2020 04:43:00 AM
Consider yourself blessed & healthy enough to not be in their category pal.
I wouldn’t want to be a cancer patient either so let them stay safe & let this
shit storm pass without more casualties of immune compromised working.
Stay smart
Stay safe
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Anonymous Anonymous said...
Its what happens when you've had years of the department micromanaged by city hall and whatever mayor is in office ! Superintendent should be a voted in position especially a city this size
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You mean elected like the sheriff, mayor, governor, etc? Hmmmmm.......interesting comment.
Remember, it isn't bad yet, we have just begun.
Anonymous said...
Don’t tell them you use tobacco either, circle NO! I was refused an N95 mask for using tobacco products.
3/29/2020 12:12:00 AM
The Correct answer is always NO!!
This is a gas mask, the N95 mask is NOT A GAS MASK:
M40 field protective mask
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M40_field_protective_mask
People with "underlying" conditions are using that as an excuse to go on the medical. They're getting Doctors notes to stay home on a precautionary basis. This is nuts.
..........
You Fucking Kid.
I am one of those people with undelying conditions.I am on the medical with an note. Wanna know why? If I get this, I DIE. PERIOD.
Keep drinking the koolaid you half wit, ill-informed, know nothing, social-media cowboy. And look up (that is the same thing as google) the term "brotherhood". Cause you have no clue about homelife or worklife.
Signed,
An Adult
Wow... we had advance warnings and it is still a shit show on the way CPD and the city is handling things. Can just a imagine the response to some type of surprise attack.
Not comfortable going for a fit test that places a hood one inch from your face while you stick your tongue out as a mist solution is sprayed at your face. All this after the same hood was placed on hundreds of other officers before you who don't even know if they have been infected. I think that 3M designed this fit test to be preformed on subjects that have not yet been exposed to a virus, not during a crisis where officers being fit tested may already have been exposed or infected.
You don’t get a mask cause YOU failed?
YOU failed???? The mask didn’t fail, YOU did.
That’s what I absolutely hate about the CPD. When there is an opportunity for those in control or a supervisory position to treat others like shit, they will ALWAYS do it.
The normal thing to have told you was “officer, the seal on that mask no longer properly seals, leaving you open for potential harm. We have noted your name, employee and star number. When we get new ones, we will contact you”.
Instead you got “YOU failed”
They tossed a rat into my sniff sack and asked if i could taste it. before i could answer it began furiously biting and scratching like a triggered libtard reading the latest trump tweet. in full survival mode i bit the rat's head off. as rodent blood poured off my chin i informed the elite sack team member that i tasted something. he proclaimed that i failed and to my dismay kicked me out without a much coveted n95 mask.
Days Of Future Past
We could soon switch to Mafia Rules (with Groot's blessing!)
soon as we see this extended to April 30: You Kill It, You Bury It.
That could result in a Stand Down on both sides.
I hear the spray bottle puffer they use and stick inside your mask is NOT cleaned between users. Also the plastic "bag" they use is shared among all members. Use CDC guidelines and demand the item is cleaned in front of you Or do it yourself. You are responsible for your own safety. Don't let them rush you through because they are short on time
Anyone else selected to the Covid-19 incident response team on their watch? it seems that they are not selecting officers using reverse seniority. They're picking people based on furlough. I'm pissed! Got selected because I have a summer furlough wtf!
What durlos do you speak of? I too have a summer furlo!!
If you have a 3,4,or 5 period furlough you can't be selected for the incident team. If you have a 6,7 furlough you might get picked. Total BS. Is this mask fitting for everyone? Or is it just for people selected to the incident team?
How is the commissioner letting Nina Cozzo to be able to work from home while all her employees have to come into the facility. Commissioner Reynolds from AIS has been allowing Nina to work in this despite not knowing anything about construction.
The Mask Does NOTHING for the Virus!!!!!!
This fitting is all BS Only Protects against CS Pepper Spray
Something I learned at The Pentagon
Maybe it's like the gas mask where facial hair prevents the mask from sealing properly.
Being a retired chief from the suburbs, I can tell you that your command staff has truly failed you. Planning for this type of event is an integral part of their jobs. Unfortunately the politicians keep sticking their noses into things they don’t understand and promote individuals who are less than knowledgeable just because they kiss butt. This is true EVERYWHERE - not just the city. Stay safe and healthy (as best you can)!
True, but you really wouldn't understand unless you witness CPD inner-workings first hand. After 6 years with CPD I lateraled to the burbs. Been here almost 4 years and I have yet to see someone being promoted solely based on the color of their skin. I talk to my old partner all the time and he says that's still the standard with CPD. Politics. You need to realize that CPD now more then ever is a walk in department, anyone with multiple arrests, recent arrests, drug charges/gun charges can be hired. If they have clout there's nothing stopping them from getting the job! The department has standards, but only on paper, in reality the power of the phone call always prevails. To give you an example, recruit in my class failed a random drug test. In any other profession or department that would be it, pack your bags and you're fired. Not here in CPD. Phone calls were made, test results into the shredder and daily activities went on as usual. CPD needs an enema now more then ever. Be safe.
Nowhere does it say that it has to be by reverse seniority..the did not want anyone who has a 3rd thru 5th period furlo
Someone should write a book. Or are books not a thing anymore. I'm old school.
This is what 30 years of merit promotions gets you.there isnt one gold star that is capable of leading this department through a catastrophic event. Imagine if this happened all over a day or two like 9 11. This is a crisis with weeks upon weeks warning. Yet there is no plan and no one capable of leading us. I am a white shirt (all off score) and we are basically left on our own to figure out what to do concerning the daily issues that are constantly popping up. I see the fear and confusion on the faces of the officers and try to reassure them but they arent stupid and see that we are basically left to our own devices. I care what happens to the officers unlike the majority of gold stars and politicians and will continue to do so in spite of them.
They Stopped Military preference points for promotion Do the math
Enjoy your CLOUT!!! Shit Merit system
Anyone else selected to the Covid-19 incident response team on their watch? it seems that they are not selecting officers using reverse seniority. They're picking people based on furlough. I'm pissed! Got selected because I have a summer furlough wtf!
What durlos do you speak of? I too have a summer furlo!!
Get THE CAPS Folks and all the other Inside Lice
Like the Community Liaison Officers in 019 Some haven't been on a beat in 20yrs
No mask - no deployment to the danger zone - unless ordered by a higher up.
Document it. Get sick, injured, etc and hope for a full recovery is about all to be expected
You Just got the Direct Order Now Enjoy Your CLOUT!!
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
I went week ago and nobody sprayed anything on me, is this some new enhanced gas mask testing?
3/29/2020 12:13:00 AM
Do not worry about it. The "keesing-bandit" has just recently been assigned to the mask fitting unit. You do NOT want to know what he is "spraying" on you. Just be glad that you went a week ago!
Much like Trump says, these governors need to take action to protect their people and not rely so much on the federal government, your commanders should be protecting you. To hell with City Hall. Commanders need to stand up and close the lobbies of these stations. If Lori or Charlie cries about it, the commanders need to cite CDC guidelines. What is Lori going to do? Fire a commander for closing the station to disease ridden homeless people. We had a commander a few years ago who was begging for new chairs in the area. Literally, the chairs were falling apart. Months went by with zero results. He then heard that Skokie was remodeling their city administration building and selling off their entire office stuff. He went and bought dozens of office chairs from the village of Skokie and brought them to us. The 2nd hand chairs were better than the original equipment that the city had given us. There is no way in hell, if this commander was still around, that the lobby of our building would still be open to the public.
Anonymous said...
Will they now have “merit” masks for those that fail?
3/29/2020 09:49:00 AM
Well done, sir.
Anyone else selected to the Covid-19 incident response team on their watch? it seems that they are not selecting officers using reverse seniority. They're picking people based on furlough. I'm pissed! Got selected because I have a summer furlough wtf!
3/29/2020 04:52:00 AM
That's how it works for everything, rookie. You can't be picked if you're on furlough because you can't really work whatever detail or team if you're not at work. It's reverse seniority, excluding people with 3rd, 4th, and 5th period furloughs. Pretty simple. Quit crying.
Standards
Recording workplace exposures to COVID-19
OSHA recordkeeping requirements at 29 CFR Part 1904 mandate covered employers record certain work-related injuries and illnesses on their OSHA 300 log.
COVID-19 can be a recordable illness if a worker is infected as a result of performing their work-related duties. However, employers are only responsible for recording cases of COVID-19 if all of the following are met:
The case is a confirmed case of COVID-19 (see CDC information on persons under investigation and presumptive positive and laboratory-confirmed cases of COVID-19);
The case is work-related, as defined by 29 CFR 1904.5; and
The case involves one or more of the general recording criteria set forth in 29 CFR 1904.7 (e.g. medical treatment beyond first-aid, days away from work).
Visit OSHA’s Injury and Illness Recordkeeping and Reporting Requirements page for more information.
This section highlights OSHA standards and directives (instructions for compliance officers) and other related information that may apply to worker exposure to novel coronavirus, COVID-19.
There is no specific OSHA standard covering COVID-19. However, some OSHA requirements may apply to preventing occupational exposure to COVID-19. Among the most relevant are:
OSHA's Personal Protective Equipment (PPE) standards (in general industry, 29 CFR 1910 Subpart I), which require using gloves, eye and face protection, and respiratory protection.
When respirators are necessary to protect workers, employers must implement a comprehensive respiratory protection program in accordance with the Respiratory Protection standard (29 CFR 1910.134).
OSHA has issued temporary guidance related to enforcement of respirator annual fit-testing requirements for healthcare.
The General Duty Clause, Section 5(a)(1) of the Occupational Safety and Health (OSH) Act of 1970, 29 USC 654(a)(1), which requires employers to furnish to each worker “employment and a place of employment, which are free from recognized hazards that are causing or are likely to cause death or serious physical harm.”
OSHA’s Bloodborne Pathogens standard (29 CFR 1910.1030) applies to occupational exposure to human blood and other potentially infectious materials that typically do not include respiratory secretions that may transmit COVID-19. However, the provisions of the standard offer a framework that may help control some sources of the virus, including exposures to body fluids (e.g., respiratory secretions) not covered by the standard.
State Standards
There are twenty-eight OSHA-approved State Plans, operating state-wide occupational safety and health programs. State Plans are required to have standards and enforcement programs that are at least as effective as OSHA's and may have different or more stringent requirements.
The California Division of Occupational Safety and Health (Cal/OSHA) Aerosol Transmissible Diseases (ATD) standard is aimed at preventing worker illness from infectious diseases that can be transmitted by inhaling air that contains viruses (including COVID-19), bacteria or other disease-causing organisms. While the Cal/OSHA ATD standard is only mandatory for certain healthcare employers in California, it may provide useful guidance for protecting other workers exposed to COVID-19.
Employers must also protect their workers from exposure to hazardous chemicals used for cleaning and disinfection. Employers should be aware that common sanitizers and sterilizers could contain hazardous chemicals. Where workers are exposed to hazardous chemicals, employers must comply with OSHA's Hazard Communication standard (in general industry, 29 CFR 1910.1200), Personal Protective Equipment standards (in general industry 29 CFR 1910 Subpart I) and other applicable OSHA chemical standards. OSHA provides information about hazardous chemicals used in hospitals in the Housekeeping section of its Hospital eTool.
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Well, on a side note, our fit tests with the State in each district yearly makes more sense now. I mean I was annoyed each time but got my stuff squared away if any issue. :/
No test since NATO.. how has nobody raised the issue? Sorry folks, love ya from down south and be safe.
your mask wont seal correctly if you have a beard. If you dont know how to don clear and check your mask then you did nt pay attention to the class. More than likely your one of those clowns w a beard,
I can fit anything properly on anyone as long as it contains the right type of lubricant.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Welcome back Missy. Thanks for the pictures.
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