What If....
Has anyone thought about what happens if/when OEMC goes down to the corona-scare?
They're already doing mandatory OT most days, and god knows the employees there aren't shy about calling off regualrly. They almost can't be fired and if you've ever visited the dispatching floor, the place is filthy beyond belief. We can totally see it as an ideal virus-breeding ground. If we aren't mistaken, it's been shut down before for infestations of critters on at least one occasion, maybe more.
If there's no one taking the calls, response times to up. Way up. And that isn't even taking into consideration if the Districts get infected, either via the Academy (see yesterday's post) or via an infected member of the public.
UPDATE: an interesting comment:
They're already doing mandatory OT most days, and god knows the employees there aren't shy about calling off regualrly. They almost can't be fired and if you've ever visited the dispatching floor, the place is filthy beyond belief. We can totally see it as an ideal virus-breeding ground. If we aren't mistaken, it's been shut down before for infestations of critters on at least one occasion, maybe more.
If there's no one taking the calls, response times to up. Way up. And that isn't even taking into consideration if the Districts get infected, either via the Academy (see yesterday's post) or via an infected member of the public.
UPDATE: an interesting comment:
- Any1 know why LarryLitefoot was @ 311 today for all of about 3 mins. Dip’d in spoke 2’Desk Sgt n dip’d out.
Also..... 911 Tech guys/gals were @ 311 other day auditing workstations. They said it was in preparation of when (NOT if) 911 (OEMC) is quarantined
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
68 Comments:
suddenly everyone sounds like ol' barry the stuttering blunder wonder... if if if if if if if if if if if .
Some CFD sites have smaller areas where they can dispatch from as well
911 call processing as oringinally instituted prior 1995
1t choice,. 1121 S State- COS
2nd choice calls and radio handled in District Stations in a small room.
After 1995
1st choice OEMC
2nd choice 311
3rd choice District Station for 9-1-1 Calls and Radio
It used to be that the District stations systems were checked and put into service on a single Sunday morning each month. Not sure if that is still the case.
To thxs a bunch of volunteers we never herd of
They have the comm rv too.
The country and sheeple are soft.
Very safe for way too long.
If you start asking "what if?" You're immediately labeled a conspiracy theorists and summarily dismissed.
The USA is cleptocrocy meets idiocracy.
Been that way for years like when OEMC lost power.
311ing and 911ing are not the same.
This has the possibility of being a cluster fuck of epic proportions.
No Corona scare in Key West on Duvall Street
(Sloppy Joe's Bar Live Cam). Mostly Rich Millenials.
SUVs & Trucks to knock your eye out. These are NOT
cruise passengers. They drove/flew into town.
Student loan crisis? Hardly.
If there's no one taking the calls, response times to up. Way up. And that isn't even taking into consideration if the Districts get infected, either via the Academy (see yesterday's post) or via an infected member of the public.
The way I see it is if nobody is taking the calls then there are no calls. If there are no calls that means there is no crime. And most importantly, we are no longer in a RAP!!!
OEMC was like a surgical ward in the mid 90'. Typical city shit holes now that major corporation people would never tolerate. The mobster Simon has all the cleaning contracts and his people hide and sleep, and wash the floors with mud water every 6 months if then.
I remember oemc partially collapsed many years ago due to a technical glich. We were all told to ride around with the blue lights activated. The reasoning was that if people needed assistance they would see the blue lights and wave the officers down.
i'm guessing them homies in chitcago gots a better chance of being kilt from a bullet than that's corona
I remember 1999 when the Y2K scare forced the city to test the regional dispatch sites just in case OEMC went down. I would have been on the team to rush to the site if that happened. It didn't. I stayed under the viaduct.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Forced OT happens all the time at OEMC. 4 hours on the end no problem. The hard OT is 4 hours on the front. The wife works days and had to start at 0130!!!!!! How dangerous and fucked up is that!
it takes about a week to get it up to full speed.
then the city tries to squish more personal in that little tiny morgue like building with no parking.
so 911 could go down and nobody would notice.
Barry the Blunder call Radio.
We don't need Russian interference, we got Chicago
interference. Much better. Reaches into the afterlife.
Something the Riskies have yet to master. Where is our
little Pulitzer Putz this fine morning? Swilled and marinated
in Champagne? He started out on Boone's Farm but is too
proud to admit it. He can't stand asymmetrical attacks 'cause
they won't hold up in court. He can have all the Left Wing
friends he wants, but they are useless here. A Red Diaper
Doper Baby. He primed post 60s so he knows nothing about
class. And for that very reason his hopes of being a teacher
are dashed. No maroon beret for you, John. I would say
Jack but that would only remind you of Tennessee. So be
well my friend and come back anytime. We enjoy turning
you away.
I remember over 20 years ago in the basement of 025; they have an emergency dispatch system in one of the rooms. We had to test the radios to see if it all worked.
The phones and shit down there where easily from WWII.
We are fucked.
Is MJ still around?
Bows the perfect time for people to create mayhem. Their antics won’t be reported because it’s coronavirus 24/7.
According to health officials when we are out of our residences we need to stay at least 6 feet away from each other. How is that working out in detective areas? The city really cares about us.
I mean this was years ago. . . but is the university police dispatch still capable of dispatching for CPD or did that go to shit when ER lied about that juvenile
OFFICERS, CALL THE UNION AND DEMAND:
Protectives masks and gear beyond those PPE kits!
Demand a N95 mask
Turn the garages into decontamination zones.
Cancel training at the academy.
Use admin personnel to take a majority of reports via telephone, as an overflow for 311 and to limit the calls officers on the street respond to. Why is the union fighting about swiping! Screw that! Just don’t swipe, what will the department do, suspend you during a pandemic! You touch your ID card that comes into contact with the reader!
Leave all locker room doors and bathroom doors open to minimize surface contact.
Supervisors strictly enforce social distancing between personnel.
Implement a plan for officers who need to quarantine, such as using a firehouse, hotel or old station.
Immediate Covid 19 test kits and expedited testing results for officers.
1 man cars but that work in tandem.
No arrests unless in extreme circumstances (the lib-turds would love that)
Property damage, theft, etc. the insurance companies can cover losses and the det’s can get them later
Tempeture checks on officers reporting to work
Close the polling places in the 009, 011 & 016 districts
Have designated dry cleaners who can decontaminate uniforms at no cost to the officers
Mandatory wipe / spray down of police vehicles before tour of duty exchange
Mandatory wipe / spray down of all circulated equipment
Hazmat suits
Constant disinfecting stations
Bulletproof barriers at every station desk like in those ghetto stores
Provide meals for the officers
If they do not do this, police will lose control like in Katrina. Marshall law will take over.
O'Hare has their own 911 center. They call it the OCC (O'Hare Communications Center). The OCC is supposed to be the backup for Madison (if it ever goes down). The OCC is ran by a guy named Ken Warrick. The OCC is a small outdated room (considering it's the backup for Madison) I have no clue if it's a viable option.
I wonder the last time they tested their backup plan, far less the actual equipment (hardware and software). Knowing it's Chicago, the city of "Where's Mine?" (as the late Mike Royko said), nobody ever actually tested it after the initial setup and tests. When the 911 and 311 dispatcher sick out, who will answer the phone? Does (or can) OEMC "fail over" to Cook County's 911 as a backup? If not, and callers start relaying calls from nearby suburbs (especially with cellphones that hit the closest tower), how will these suburbs transfer the call to CPD/CFD?? It's bad enough in small agencies that still run their own dispatch center (some suburbs declined to go combined dispatch), let alone a major city when you run short of staff. Full disclosure: 11 years in a suburban 911 center...and some of our bosses were just as clueless.
No Corona scare in Key West on Duvall Street
(Sloppy Joe's Bar Live Cam). Mostly Rich Millenials.
SUVs & Trucks to knock your eye out. These are NOT
cruise passengers. They drove/flew into town.
Student loan crisis? Hardly.
3/15/2020 12:52:00 AM
Right! closing everything @ Spring Break! This shit will explode after the return! At least at its core, it's just part of the influenza family
Corona about to hit this city like a tidal wave but in 002 we got compstat this week. Go get the activity. New boss same ass the old boss numbers matter Officers don’t really matter.
Work slow down NOW is the time. Trump will back us! Graham if you do this now you will get re-elected.
Desk Sgt had a March Madness Pool.
Larri was there looking to get her $10 square refund.
The OEMC is one giant windowless incubator.
Obviously someone got sick, many planning on getting sick, with many already on that FMLA leave (unchecked abuse) deal.
Install plastic bubbles over each console and decontamination each for 24 hrs. Roll out the cots, nobody leaves.
Will a call taker/dispatcher shortage cause any usual delay, should I find a need to use my annual single allotment 9-1-1 call up here in 016?
Fret not.
OEMC still has loads of the Huberman Deal pre-digital age surplus equipment from Motorola (soup cans & string).
Basic shortwave is better and there may be at least one unit left from the ‘68 Dem Convention. FOP a will have to give up that old console they have in the hallway too.
We’re in free fall y’all!
LightLoafer is doing her due diligence to create the Dem zombie apocalypse.
LightLoafer also popped into Pacific Gardens, wanted to know if they had an temporary employment agency.
FOP , PBPA , BGA , Chicago Health Department
Time is Now to prevent the mentally ill , disease carrying , drug addicts from bringing their life belongings into police stations and sleeping on floors , using bathrooms .
lock the doors
FOP , PBPA , BGA , Chicago Health Department
Time is Now to prevent the mentally ill , disease carrying , drug addicts from bringing their life belongings into police stations and sleeping on floors , using bathrooms .
lock the doors
We still have the FM base stations wherever you see the red and white transmitting towers. Someone is assigned to go in there, and dispatch calls received to the district officers. I believe there is one for each district. How they are told what calls are waiting I don't remember, but these systems get checked yearly. Also, I don't know how updated the equipment is inside these things, haven't been inside one since Y2K scare.
Somehow I don’t feel safer knowing all this.
A little off topic. Does anyone remember the epidemic years ago where the department wanted a list of household members so that meds could be issued to us and our family. Came on in 92, so it was probably awhile ago.
A day without Amy on CW1 is a day without listening to fingernails on a chalkboard. Wah Wah Wah...
C.E.R.T. members being put to work at 311 to handle calls on the Coronavirus hotline...the system is being overwhelmed.
Bill Gates and John's Hopkins recently did a pandemic drill and found many lapses in Preparedness. City should follow the lessons learned from the drill and enact appropriate measures gleaned from the exercise.
The Event 201 pandemic exercise, conducted on October 18, 2019, vividly demonstrated a number of these important gaps in pandemic preparedness as well as some of the elements of the solutions between the public and private sectors that will be needed to fill them.
· In October 2019, the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security hosted a pandemic tabletop exercise called Event 201 with partners, the World Economic Forum and the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.
Way back when they could transmit out of the little shack behind the old 016.....
Station license still issued to that location, as well as others
https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsApp/UlsSearch/licenseLocSum.jsp;JSESSIONID_ULSSEARCH=FygvpfyRCQvGD0HdDK21BCQx6Qgs0YfdvpyQ91L2L9GQJfQP2xPj!-1987816417!-1885326479?licKey=2806843
If there is that much chaos I'm leaving
Maybe if they stop handing out baby momma / baby daddy garbage calls that would free up a lot more police for real service to tax payers
We have this over here;
Coronavirus in Illinois Sunday updates: Pritzker expects O’Hare crowding to get worse, considers closing bars, restaurants
https://www.chicagotribune.com/coronavirus/ct-coronavirus-pandemic-chicago-illinois-news-20200315-tn4rchjbazb73h6x2i4vz7v3xq-story.html
So look what fat boy says close all bars and restaurants but yet he leaves the dispensaries wide open with the recreational weed all the scumbags coming in and out coughing and all kinds other bullshit you talk about it a mayor and the governor that are totally uninformed have no clue what the fuck they’re doing. Had the police gotten their medical masks gloves or anything yet of course not
Don't worry they have the Commander/Patrolman assigned there to take care of these things !!!!!!!!!
When I was a prisoner of war I was forced to work at 311. There was a closure at 911 for a couple weeks so we were told to answer 911 emergency calls from the 311 site with no training whatsoever! Not surprised.
Another recollection...
We did a grand opening tour of the new granite monolith called OEMC and they were spouting being ready for anything. One thing that stood out was they had a full kitchen with huge refrigerators, stoves etc. not sure if it was filled or if there was a pantry filled with non-perishables.
Wonder what they pay the cook.
We’re paying $5 a month surcharge on the cellphone bill and that money has nothing to do with communications upkeep or preparedness.
Wonder what CookCo Homeland Security has planned.
If an emergency communications center is running up to snuff, then it’s prepared, so there’s no need for LightLoafer to pop in and snoop unless it’s for a favor. She might be looking for a free parking spot and a free breakfast at The Palace Grill across the street so to taunt The Mancow who was suppose to do a live show there until it was postponed.
Could also be that she had anticipated on calling 9-1-1 Saturday night because colonial revelers will be keeping her awake, she don’t want to get the usual one ringee-dingee, two ringee-dingees then a click and dial tone like the rest of us.
Why arent they postponing election? Every damn event is shut down except this? If it was the presidential election and Trump didn't postpone it, Groot would be bitching and accusing him of cheating. So shut it down Groot - people can't go outside to vote in contaminated booths!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I remember oemc partially collapsed many years ago due to a technical glich. We were all told to ride around with the blue lights activated. The reasoning was that if people needed assistance they would see the blue lights and wave the officers down.
3/15/2020 03:46:00 AM
They did that prior to Wilson. Ride around with red lights on. Then nobody obeyed them anymore...Wison had to change to blue lights to get people to stop again. Don't these new idiots learn history?????
I work at OEMC and we do have a back-up system. Each operator is equipped with two Styrofoam cups connected with a 25 ft. piece of kite string. We have the ability to maintain a conversation with anyone on the other end. Local 134 installed so I know for a fact they are up to par. I personally want to thank the mayor for her ingenuity and creativity.
I expect any day now all TVs, and radio devices simultaneously will have Dr. Wu make the announcement he is the creator of the Corona virus and he is taking over the world.
Here's the plan. They're gonna keep businesses closed long enough to crush the state budget and get everybody up on their hind legs begging for a bone. Then they're gonna give handouts to everyone that survives financially, entitlements to those who don't, and use the issue to bolster Democratic candidates for Congress and the Senate. Now it doesn't matter if Trump is president, matter of fact, they would prefer it. They'll hang this shirt on him forever. Then tubby will use the financial calamity he created to take extraordinary measures like suspending the constitution or open it and change the pensions. Teachers being used to promote this bullshit are setting the stage to have their own pensions devoured by the deep state.
Call back is the alternative site they did a drill about 4 yrs ago there and crossed training people
Certain districts have Base Stations just for this reason...we used to run checks on them monthly
Just saying half our district was sick a month and a half ago with an unknown illness chest cold which came from the Swiper machines we were told clean our hands after we swiped the machine maybe we aren’t at the end of the virus maybe we were the beginning. This has been noted on social media that this Unk cold which effected was most likely the C virus. And Now this Media Nonsense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awUqg60WD20&feature=youtu.be
City of Chicago Temporary Workforce Policies Related to Coronavirus Outbreak
No Training, No Problem
Give out the Mayor's phone number.
"Let me give you my boss"
When I was a prisoner of war I was forced to work at 311. There was a closure at 911 for a couple weeks so we were told to answer 911 emergency calls from the 311 site with no training whatsoever! Not surprised.
3/15/2020 03:12:00 PM
I can understand but the system is dumbed down a CPS third grader could work it. Now, if you ever worked the street you should be able to differentiate what is to be dispatched and what gets a report over the phone. Not that hard, designed that way for a reason... believe me
Cups and a kite string, better plan than I expected. What could go wrong with that?
Dispatchers with local 911 centers in North Carolina counties have been instructed to ask additional screening questions about possible coronavirus exposure. “It lets our first responders know what they’re walking into and any potentiality of there being a coronavirus infection,” said Guilford Metro 911 Operations Manager, Christine Moore.
Are they doing that here?
Tom Hanks shares virus update------
Then gets SLAMMED by the Internet!
(Good for you Tommy. Eat some catfish soup.)
Here's the plan. They're gonna keep businesses closed long enough to crush the state budget and get everybody up on their hind legs begging for a bone. Then they're gonna give handouts to everyone that survives financially, entitlements to those who don't, and use the issue to bolster Democratic candidates for Congress and the Senate. Now it doesn't matter if Trump is president, matter of fact, they would prefer it. They'll hang this shirt on him forever. Then tubby will use the financial calamity he created to take extraordinary measures like suspending the constitution or open it and change the pensions. Teachers being used to promote this bullshit are setting the stage to have their own pensions devoured by the deep state.
3/15/2020 05:17:00 PM
Not.even.close.
This will be over by June. There will be stimulus packages passed. Refinance rates will be around 1%. The economy will skyrocket. Look at the economy while this has been happening. It refused to tank. Market ended a horrible week on the up. This is very telling. The businesses DO NOT want democrats in power. FOLLOW THE FUCKING MARKET.
Oh. My. God.
You should see that fucking IDIOT commander at O'Hare. Shameful and embarrassing. Takes a crappy situation and just magnifies it with his incompetence. He's the joke of every agency there from TOP to BOTTOM
Please Bill, leave. You are a bigger liability than you can possibly imagine. Great id a too making all of your manpower stay on the non secure side. What do you think happens if you put all your eggs in one basket? You should try thinking like a policeman rather than a paper pushing tool that you have always been. No one respects you.
How many people work at HQ?
How many people work at Homan?
Both have over 250 people at any given time.
Shouldn’t they be shut down???
Lightfoot doesn’t give a shit about us.
We need to stand together.
Why don't they cross train some of those COPA fucks to lend a hand. Maybe some anti police lawyers...Show them how hard dispatchers have it when it's busy. When 2/3rds of the coppers call in sick we can throw those worthless pussies on the streets. There'll be 2/3rds less cops for them to try to fuck over so they should have plenty of free time. Who am I kidding...I'm sure they'll be staying home like all the others in society who never risked anything for someone else. When all this dust settles, they'll be right back to trying to ruin peoples lives. Fuck all of them. All you boys & girls not lucky enough to have the govt. let you stay home for 2 weeks with pay...be safe. Use this as a Rehearsal... a dry run. When it's over, get the Fuck outta here with proper preparations, because there WILL be another one like this, might not just be a super flu. Might be a real world ending event. Won't want to be here.
"Anonymous said...
OFFICERS, CALL THE UNION AND DEMAND:
Protectives masks and gear beyond those PPE kits!
Demand a N95 mask
Turn the garages into decontamination zones.
Cancel training at the academy...."
Although I applaud your enthusiasm and conviction...Do you work for CPD?? HAHA! Hey, 011 has been doing your suggestion of 1 man units for years, but not to avoid contamination, because WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH POLICE to ensure 10-4 units on every watch in the busiest district in the city!!. Meals provided for officers?? Great idea. 95% of the businesses in 011 don't even give a break to on-duty officers for a bottle of water or candy bar, so don't know who'd pony up for free meals. (Although Windward roofing does cater a spread every year for all three watches, thanks guys!)
Once again, thanks for the great ideas, but for a mayor , politicians and city that view the police as the enemy, good luck getting a third of what you suggest. You can attribute it to unpreparedness, but I'd attribute lack of resources to flat out disdain for our profession.
So the dispatch floor is filthy beyond belief.
Is anyone complaining? No?
Says a lot about the people working there.
Why arent they postponing election?
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Does it matter in chicago?
The elections are pretty well rigged anyway. Why even bother to have one?
all you guys looking for moon suits and masks..........have you ever worked in one? they dont breathe and are super hot plus in your line of work would make you a huge target plus where do you put your gear? i keep one in my car in case i have to walk in winter on a road trip. once you suit up you cant wait to get it off and by then your soaked in sweat.
I remember that meds to the family nonsense. They gave us candies labeled as preventative drugs. I ate them.
President Trump says to be in group's of less than 10 people. OEMC has more than 10 dispatchers. The CPD academy has more than 10 personnel. Close both.
You young peeps probably don’t recall that in 92-94 somewhere the equipment up in the Ivory Tower (2nd/3rd floors) was so old that Zone 12 CAUGHT FIRE.
The call takers to either side of her scattered, busy as hell so my buddy stayed to make sure the cars on the street could hear her dispatch and she them.
Almost immediately she started having issues with allergies - multiple chemical exposures before that was a know problem, so of course CPD told her it was all in her head and similar shit. She finally got to retire.
A whole bunch of us in the 19th District building wound up with cancer, FOP never did JACK about following up my case - a sick building is the death knell to any lawyer’s future career if they don’t get a settlement. Last I heard from FOP on the matter was, oh, ten years ago?
After I filed that complaint there was ASBESTOS ABATEMENT in the ceiling at the desk WHILE THE DESK CREW WORKED.
I’m retired now and so far so good.
Stay safe and drop paper if anything seems a threat to your health.
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