Actual Statisitics
Our stat guy has been putting in some extra time with the "pandemic" numbers:
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From the CDC's own website as of 5/13/20. See attached. Granted the data they post is often several days behind in actual data, they admit this is the case. But lets use the numbers they have in any case.
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From the CDC's own website as of 5/13/20. See attached. Granted the data they post is often several days behind in actual data, they admit this is the case. But lets use the numbers they have in any case.
- So out of 1,364,061 cases reported, here's what we know.
- Of anyone aged 35-44 only 973 died. That's a 0.07% death rate.
- Anyone aged 45-54 2,772 died or a 0.2% death rate. That's 2 tenths of one percent.
- Anyone aged 55-64 there was 6,725 that died. That's still only a 0.49% death rate. That's less than 1/2 of one percent.
- What's NOT included in this data is how many of those who died already had serious other health issues, but we have to assume it's a lot.
- Also this is ASSUMING the 1,364,061 is accurate. We have to believe that number is WAY under reported. All experts say most people are asymptomatic and are never even tested.
- So for the sake of argument, lets say about 2.5 times that amount in the US is more accurate, like 3,250,000 are infected (it's probably even much higher than that).
- If that's true, than the rates of death are even much smaller. (Pick the 55-62 age group, then that's only 0.2% death rate.)
Bottom line: Yes be careful, but lets stop running at full speed off a cliff like a bunch of lemmings and openly destroying our economy. We are going to have a full blown depression because of idiot governors and mayors in charge like Pritizker, Lightfoot, et al.
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Open up Illinois you idiots.
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Open up Illinois you idiots.
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
48 Comments:
SCC I now down in amazement, ty!
Am I reading right that your stat guy is taking deaths per age bracket vs total confirmed cases to get a horribly incorrect death rate for every age bracket?
What is the number of cases per age bracket vs deaths per age bracket?
OR
What is the total number of deaths vs total cases?
Taking a small segment of deaths vs the whole total of known cases is the same kind of slop that is keeping things closed, just with the error on the low side instead of the panic side.
scamdemic
Annual Unemployment Rates During the Great Depression
1931 - 15.9%
1932 - 23.6%
1933 - 24.9%
1934 - 21.7%
1935 - 20.1%
1936 - 16.9%
1937 - 14.3%
1938 - 19.0%
1939 - 17.2%
Mean: 19.3%
Median: 19.0%
But, but, the sky is falling says the governor and the mayor all while the alderpeople and the congress play with their little chicken. What we need is more government, more government employees, and the lot of them collecting checks without having to go to work, not that they did anything even when they went to work!!!
Fact is this pandemic proves we don't need anywhere near the amount of city, county and state legislators or employees to get the non-existent job done that they cant!!!
Some body voted for these DemocRAT clowns. Everyone I know is moving or plans on moving. And not down the block. They want to move halfway across the country. And I just hope the people who love what they created stay and enjoy the shit show.
Everyone would do well by reading the linked article to understand what the agenda is, which was written a month ago in mid-April. The writer, "sundance" is one of THE most prescient observers of political and economical "events" I have ever read. Familiarize yourself with the enemy's gameplan.
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/04/13/it-begins-east-and-west-coast-blue-states-team-up-to-begin-economic-civil-war/
" We are going to have a full blown depression because of idiot governors and mayors in charge like Pritizker, Lightfoot, et al."
Because of democraps.
“Bottom line: Yes be careful, but lets stop running at full speed off a cliff like a bunch of lemmings and openly destroying our economy. We are going to have a full blown depression because of idiot governors and mayors in charge like Pritizker, Lightfoot, et al.“
I disagree, they are not idiot governors and mayors. They are clever lying, devious, sly, cunning operatives taking their orders from the likes of the DNC, Obama, Pelosi the Deep State and Soros to name a few. Central Casting (Washington Swamp) has given orders to keep the Country closed and make everyone suffer until the election. Their candidate, Joe Biden, is becoming more senile by the day and they are in a panic. They want to stop the unemployed from going back to work and get them on the government teat. This is socialism that they want. They have to destroy Trump before he can destroy them.
Live out near the Quad-Cities. Went shopping over in Iowa today. Restaurants open, some with outside seating, packed. Malls and stores request or require masks indoors, but locals comply without protest. Golf courses open, but "discourage" Illinois residents from playing there.
Now I know how the East Germans felt.
Bbbut they scared Fatass with their signs. Wisconsin Supreme court shut Fatass’s buddy doen but Illinois is too corrupt for them to actually rule in the Constitutions favor. Wisconsin residents got the job done. Here in Illinois people call 911 because their neighbor wasnt 6 feet away when they walked past them. California, New York and Illinois are timderboxes just waiting to spark off
OPEN ILLINOIS!!!
Assume 3,000,000 are infected. We have a population of about 350,000,000. So about .86% have been infected. Assume that they are missing a lot of cases but stick with the 3,000,000 infected instead of the official number of 1,470,000 million.
88,237 have died so far. Taking the 3,000,000 number that makes the death rate .029. Out of a population of 350,000,000, that means that 10,294.316 could die.
Let's be optimistic and assume that we get herd immunity when 70% are infected. Then only about 7,000,000 Americans could die.
Those are numbers that were achieved with shutdowns what happens when they end? Many who survive have other health problems after they recover. Cardiac, kidney. etc are sometimes damaged. If you are younger and healthy you might be OK. If you get a mild form you should be good to go. But a lot of people are at risk.
Cook County has about 59,000 cases, the highest total for any county in the county as of today.
Be careful out there.
I don’t care about Illinois, i’m heading to Las Vegas Asap!
Vote Trump 2020
Never let facts get in the way of Leftist ideology and stupidity.
How many autopsies have been done on these victims? I would suspect the number of deaths is even lower. Just because a person is positive for Covid - 19 doesn’t mean they died from it.
Common sense appears to be a lost value among Democrats.
Amen. Thank you.
Many of these leaders, elected officials, want to look like they are in charge, that they are in command and on top of things. That is OK and that is what they were elected to do. But, the liberals, the democrats are assuming powers that were not granted to them by the legislative bodies. The executive branch cannot and should not make law, but they do. This is called the " administrative state" a population ruled by executive orders and not duly passed laws. ZAnd, it could get worse, much worse.
The whole US population has become a nation of cowards. Yes that is you a coward hiding in your home waiting for someone to save you from this awful killer. LOL at your fear and stupidity. You deserve to lose your job since your doing nothing to save it other than cowering fear behind that worthless mask your wearing. You have turned the US front The Land Of The Free and Home Of The Brave into Land Of The Oppressed and Home Of The Cowardly. Not only did your actions flatten the curve they flattened the principles our country was founded on in two short months. You listened to the media hype bad projections and doubled down on your stupidity one those bad projections were proven false. No reason at all th shelter in place.the storm which never was is long over. Yes, some old sick people died, but they would have died anyways from a serious strain of the normal flu. So far less than 375,000 WORLDWIDE have died from this gift from China. That is hardly worthy of note in a population numbered at 5-6 BILLION. Wake AMERICA this is all a plot for the New World Order to gain control. Warren, Sanders, AOC, Pelosi and Waters are the Stalking Horses in the US. Better think twice next November which lever you will be pulling, this shy down is just a preview of what they have in store for you. Funny how we all thought that the politicians worked for us. Instead they just showed their true colors and worked very hard to crush everything we held dear. Our Freedoms, our religions and our livelihoods. You all just laid down with out a whimper and let them crush you. It is not to late to show them who is really in charge get out into the streets and protest and get your lives back.
How much money does the federal government give each city or hospital for a death reported as caused by coronavirus?
The CDC and virtually ALL the Health Dept Heads are listing “DEATHS” as an actual statistic,
What they fail to separate however is this :
DEATHS from COVID VIRUS vs. a DEATH WITH COVID
Which means a healthy 39 year old who gets the virus and his lungs fill up and the doctors can’t control it should be in the FIRST count
Then there’s Auntie Talula who is 85 with COPD, Heart problems, can’t get out of bed, is in a nursing home -she dies but has the Virus in her blood stream.......she should be in the SECOND count.
Is it all a big money scam? .....since both these deaths would be listed as COVID......
Today’s Illinois count:
1700+ deaths over 80. 1000 deaths age 70-79. 650+ deaths aged 60-69. ////. 240 deaths aged 50-59. 12 deaths aged 40-49
23 deaths aged 30-39. 9 deaths aged 20-29. 1 death under age 20. (About 350 deaths not listed yet)
So, for all intents and purposes, Illinois is SHUT DOWN for about 400 deaths that might be listed normally as a FLU death......of persons NOT elderly with underlying medical conditions,......
Neither Larri or JB spoke any truth.
Following the science to flatten a curve and now it’s lockdown until a cure. Remember when Crisis Guru Rahm celebrated SpecialEd’s illegal DanRyan I-94 shutdown, he said “if it saves one life, it’s worth it”.
They’ll be saying the same bullshit again.
Took 3 months for compliant sheep to figure this out?
The Dems sure wanted the Covid’s earlier, like last Sept-Oct to cause even more economic damage.
They’re very upset they will have to reopen because there’s no guarantee The Next Wave will even come.
Vote every Democrat out in November.
Sen.ile Durban
US Rep 14 Underwood
US Rep 6 Casten
Crooked Count KmmmFxxxxUp
Will they quarantine parts of the city if the number of people murdered reaches 650. That might be a more reasonable use of a quarantine.
Colorado admits that its death count was inflated:
https://www.foxnews.com/us/colorado-lowers-coronavirus-death-count
Dr. Ezike admitted months ago (probably to Pugsley's displeasure) that Illinois was way over counting the deaths attributed to COVID. Our media wasn't terribly interested in digging into anything that would make "Tons-o-fun" look bad.
Bottom line is this is the flu. A nasty strain and one that could potentially make you very ill or kill you but the flu nonetheless. The exaggerated nature of this "pandemic" will go down as the greatest feat the left nd the media ever pulled off. We crushed our economy over the flu, just so the Dems could take one last shot at getting Trump before the election.
Try to pry that stolen power from the fat little fingers. Now picture the scene in Star Wars.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wntX-a3jSY
SCC, you took the words out of my head....
thank you for posting the most common sense article i have seen.
i think i will forward this to all news agencies just for shits and giggles
Pritzker and Lightfoot do want a depression, Facist Control, and bankruptcy. They need to be un-elected, NOW. Mistakes CAN be undone.
Cook County has about 59,000 cases, the highest total for any county in the county as of today.
Be careful out there.
5/16/2020 06:15:00 AM
Thank you Prince of Darkness! Scary when a fool like you actually has access to a computer. Hopefully mom lets you stay up for Star Trek tonight. I mean it is Saturday.
A depression is pretty much a done deal. You got all these months on lockdown making no money and then they're only going to give restaurants the privilege of serving at 25%-30% capacity. That's post-lockdown apparently. And the fear mongering will ensure life won't be getting back to normal anytime soon. The airline industry also cannot survive flying at 50% capacity. Goose is cooked imo.
To the BC commenter: You said this: "What is the total number of deaths vs total cases?"
Read the post: "...out of 1,364,061 cases reported" And "Anyone aged 45-54 2,772 died or a 0.2% death rate. That's 2 tenths of one percent."
When it comes to the economy, it's less significant how many died total. LOOK AT THE EXTREMELY LOW DEATH RATE OF YOUNG FOLKS. Yes, of course, it's obvious and clear folks in their 70s, 80s, and 90s die at a much higher rate. But they typically aren't part of the workforce any longer. They can stay home and "shelter". And MANY of the deaths of elderly are from nursing homes - lets lock down the nursing homes and protect them instead of the entire country.
The rest of the world needs to move on and start working. Oh, unless of course you WANT breadlines.
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BC said...
Am I reading right that your stat guy is taking deaths per age bracket vs total confirmed cases to get a horribly incorrect death rate for every age bracket?
What is the number of cases per age bracket vs deaths per age bracket?
OR
What is the total number of deaths vs total cases?
Taking a small segment of deaths vs the whole total of known cases is the same kind of slop that is keeping things closed, just with the error on the low side instead of the panic side.
5/16/2020 12:16:00 AM
Yes. All true and lets face it. The alternative is to stay locked down, and stay in a perpetual state of panic. Then we can watch our economy, our retirement, our kids education, the American way of living, our LIVES erode away before our very eyes.
Other thing: For any of you who disagree and support lockdown. It's NOT going away!!! We need to learn to live with this virus one way or another. Yes, more people are going to die. It's true. The lockdown was never to stop the death. Only slow it down. Opening society back up involves risk. But all of life is a risk!
When we see 113 year olds spontaneously recovering with no side effects, it's clear what we have. A season viral infection that likely has been around before. Except in an election year after 4 years of political civil war there was no way to miss out on the opportunity. We have people that enjoy the fear, good communists they are, and those horrible fascists that wish to get to work and not lose their homes, status and lives. There has been some reference to the Great Depression, but have not seen any discussion of the parallels of mismanagement and deliberate negative actions by the Fed. If we recall, the federal government outlawed private gold ownership and then proceeded to sweep up all available reserves for pennies on the dollar, due to the deflationary policies being used at that time. So we know that the government has a history of screwing over its citizens, time and time again. Though not on such a large scale in 90 years. Unless we count the various wars, nuclear test... etc etc.
Calling our ruling classes incompetent morons? nah. They just don't give a f*** about us peons is all.
Oops!
https://www.foxnews.com/world/imperial-college-britain-coronavirus-lockdown-buggy-mess-unreliable
Assume 3,000,000 are infected. We have a population of about 350,000,000. So about .86% have been infected. Assume that they are missing a lot of cases but stick with the 3,000,000 infected instead of the official number of 1,470,000 million.
88,237 have died so far. Taking the 3,000,000 number that makes the death rate .029. Out of a population of 350,000,000, that means that 10,294.316 could die.
Let's be optimistic and assume that we get herd immunity when 70% are infected. Then only about 7,000,000 Americans could die.
Those are numbers that were achieved with shutdowns what happens when they end? Many who survive have other health problems after they recover. Cardiac, kidney. etc are sometimes damaged. If you are younger and healthy you might be OK. If you get a mild form you should be good to go. But a lot of people are at risk.
Cook County has about 59,000 cases, the highest total for any county in the county as of today.
Be careful out there.
5/16/2020 06:15:00 AM
Another example of those with little or no statistical training running with numbers. Just like a toddler with scissors, no good can come. Where do the figures come from? Is the model understood? Unless someone has a graduate level understanding of stat, they can either swept along with the bs or smart enough to say No, this does not make sense in my experience. The media is portraying death as being some kind of anomaly. None of us get out of here alive. Personally, I'd rather be anywhere but the East German shithole that the Dems and their media lapdogs are trying to pull off. The phrase about Better to die on ones feet than live on knees is from the Bible. Which is a book that the modern coward seems to have missed.
Classic example. In Colorado a man died with a .55 blood/alcohol level. Alcohol poisoning. He tested positive for the virus. Guess what the death certificate listed as cause of death? Covid-19? You win.
What happens when your 24 year old son goes out during the pandemic and gets the covid 19 , but is not showing symptoms for weeks, while the grandparents are living with him. The grandparents stayed home and did not leave the house. They contract the virus from the young guy, he is young enough to recover from the virus. But the grandparents end up dying. How does that scenario fall on your curve ?
Sure, I'd love to vote every Democrat out, but most have no opponent. ☹️
Congresspeople Casten and Underwood don't represent Chicago. Thus, I can't vote them out. 😑
I'll vote for Cook County State's Attorney Candidate Patrick O'Brien too 😃, but wonder if he's assisted by GOP Chairs Tim Schneider (IL), Sean Morrison (Cook), Steve Boulton, (Chicago), Matt Podgorski (Chicago Northwest Side) and Steve Graves (19th Ward). 😑
Classic example. In Colorado a man died with a .55 blood/alcohol level. Alcohol poisoning. He tested positive for the virus. Guess what the death certificate listed as the cause of death? Covid-19? You win.
That was changed after review
How much money does the federal government give each city or hospital for a death reported as caused by coronavirus?
That lie has been debunked many times. It was done to keep rural hospitals from going bankrupt
What was the Spanish Flu in 1918 like?
"The flu had killed 200,000 Americans by the end of October 1918, and Bristow claims that the pandemic killed over 675,000 Americans in total. The impact on the population was so severe that in 1918, American life expectancy was reduced by 12 years."
US population in 1918 was about 103,000,000. So about .65% of the population in America died from Spanish Flu. The same percentage today would mean 2,275,000 deaths. And a large percentage of the older population then was immune to the Spanish Flu. Most of the fatalities were younger people who came down with the disease quickly and died quickly.
We might get lucky and find an antiviral. Or a vaccine. Who knows? Perhaps it will mutate and become less deadly. Perhaps we will have a wonderful Disney ending to this.
Perhaps health care workers will save many people on the margin. People walk away from accidents where you are amazed they survived.
Or have enough sense to take steps to protect yourself and people you care about. Live or die how you want, but don't pretend this isn't a real threat. People will die. Try to take steps so that it isn't you or the people you care about. Get them a mask, wash your hands, do what you can. And ignore the crazy conspiracy stories floating around.
Figures lie and liars figure. All a giant hoax. Yeah a few people died so what. Thank you China.
No vaccine what are you gonna do? Stay locked up foreveR? Good luck with that fool.
The ruling class needs a lesson. When ar3 you going to get up enough guts to give it to Them? A March on city hall would be a good start. Tar and feather the little moron mayor. See how far her protection detail will go to protect her. Heard they all hate her anyways. She treats them like lackeys.
The Chinese government invented the Corona virus. The Corona virus is a man made biological virus,intended to attack the United States and the world by damaging the economy,industries,manufacturing,businesses and even death.
I don’t care about Illinois, i’m heading to Las Vegas Asap!
Can't make it to Vegas but I will stop by at your wake or funeral.
Maybe you should put your scissors away - I have a Master's in Biblical Studies so I know a thing or two about "the Bible". The phrase "Better to die than live on ones knees" does NOT come from the Bible. If you still believe it does, please provide the book, chapter and verse for all of us.
I'll leave you something that IS from the Bible: "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools." I'm thinking you just might be an example of this, ya toddler!
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Another example of those with little or no statistical training running with numbers. Just like a toddler with scissors, no good can come. Where do the figures come from? Is the model understood? Unless someone has a graduate level understanding of stat, they can either swept along with the bs or smart enough to say No, this does not make sense in my experience. The media is portraying death as being some kind of anomaly. None of us get out of here alive. Personally, I'd rather be anywhere but the East German shithole that the Dems and their media lapdogs are trying to pull off. The phrase about Better to die on ones feet than live on knees is from the Bible. Which is a book that the modern coward seems to have missed.
5/16/2020 01:52:00 PM
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