FOP Goes to Court
- Chicago’s police union wants a federal judge to force the city to give its officers more time to rest while seeking help from other police departments — or even the Illinois National Guard — rather than continue to force its officers to work consecutive 12-hour shifts.
Following up on a promise earlier this week to go to court over the long work hours, the Fraternal Order of Police on Wednesday took its complaint to U.S. District Judge Robert Dow, the judge who oversees the consent decree meant to govern police reform in Chicago.
“Over the last three weeks, officers have been deployed for consecutive 12 hour days with all regular days off and furlough time canceled,” FOP lawyer Joel D’Alba wrote in a court filing. “They are exhausted and worn out from the constant exposure to citizen protests and need longer work breaks. The City of Chicago is not complying with the wellness, health and safety obligations of the consent decree.”
If there were actual expectations of even-handedness behind the "consent" decree, the people overseeing it would hold the city to the standards set forth in it. But we all know that the purpose isn't "reform." It's the outright handcuffing and destruction of the police department. And the enrichment of assorted law firms and retired judges to oversee the destruction.
Labels: department issues, FOP
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
50 Comments:
Keep it up FOP need you guys now more than ever
I am sure they will get to arguments and maybe a decision by Mid-September, maybe even before Labor Day if we are lucky!
I want to give a serious amount of praise to the FOP president, Catanzara. This has been the only president I have ever truly felt wasn’t in bed with the politicians. Seriously, this is what I always expected. Unfortunately, it’s just too late. He’s fighting a losing battling, which, in a way, makes me respect him even more. I just don’t need this shit and looking for another career, as are many others. I can’t say enough about how much I respect Catanzara but hopefully this job is nothing but a bad dream in under a year.
Holy shit, the consent decree might be good for us?
As we can see the FOP went into federal court and made an emergency filing against the City, they have sent a letter to the Superintendent and they criticized the City’s new panel on the use of force policy. My question is, what is the Chicago Sergeant’s Association, the Chicago Lieutenant’s Association and the Chicago Captain’s Association doing about this? Do they have any comments, plans or suggestions? Their websites are covered with cobwebs from the same old stale news. Will they offer any support, are they on the same team?
I have a feeling that when these great political thinkers, behind this consent decree, came up with all these reforms, they didn't foresee all the problems that we are currently facing with the city and department. Nice that they put all their fantastic ideas in writing as well. If you actually read the whole stupid decree there are quite a few policies that current exempts are ignoring. Use their own rules to fuck them up the ass I say. I actually paid attention to the Elearning on the consent decree and immediately knew it could be used to our advantage some time in the future. I'm currently working on my own project to fuck over my ex commander that clearly violated the rules.
Good job Jcat. Did that one loser whom posted on the blog when he won Union President retire like he cried he was going to do? I hope so. If you got enough time on this job to leave, but were waiting to see whom would win the union election to be your deciding factor, then quite frankly, you are a fucking moron.
onymous said...
No “ gatherings” in 011.
Commander is having the OT officers watch Dope spots..
How are those properties doing that you own in 011, Commander HUD? Better now, that you have officers temporarily putting a damper on drugs sales? Look like those shootings are still happening however.
OT to watch dope spots !
Your health and well-being as well as your families is ruined cause he wants you to watch dope spots.
You need your head examined if you do any work For 011s clowns - commander and captain- other than answer your jobs.
This is 1000% accurate. Everyday Spencer has a team from what ever 3rd watch was sent there , to stand at Springfield and Gresham. Not for protesting, but to keep the shootings down. Rumor has it, he has asked these , area 3 district personal to do foot patrols
Where the judge made his mistake was not granting Immediate emergency relief to the FOPs motion. He should have forced the city to call in the guard and other law enforcement agencies. Police officers who are exhausted will not be making good decisions. Any profession will make poor decisions when exhausted. The city will stall. People will get hurt in the meantime. What judge do you know works more than a three hour day?
Hey JCat
Keep up the great work.
Any consideration of officer with 20 years minimum to get bid spots to the desk , shot spotter, desk gigs. I did 20 years on the street & have to look at clout baby cowards with 3 years on inside! I know no one.
Tokin Sen DURBIN Has to Step Down with his Comments
p: 312.353.4952
f: 312.353.0150
Good luck in an Illinois Democratic controlled court.
Consent Decree works both ways. If the City doesn't abide by it, neither ought the FOP...
Fucking ignore it just like they do. Let THEM take YOU to Court. Then haul out box after box after box of the shit they'll pulled. Motion to have the whole thing thrown out because it hasn't been followed by the City from the word go...
Hey JCat
Keep up the great work.
Any consideration of officer with 20 years minimum to get bid spots to the desk , shot spotter, desk gigs. I did 20 years on the street & have to look at clout baby cowards with 3 years on inside! I know no one.
6/18/2020 02:52:00 AM
I applied for the shotspotter room when it first opened, back when we were told “don’t volunteer for anything kid.”
Now that everyone sees it’s a nice inside spot they start complaining.
Too bad!
Policemen in Wonderland
https://www.city-journal.org/html/policeman-wonderland-12268.html
If you do ANY proactive work in 011 you are insane. WTF do you think they will do to you, put you on 1st watch, fuck it, your already in the shittest district, fuck them
Keep up the pressure. This is a U.S. District Federal court Sparky, not an Illinois Democratic controlled court.
Get your 20 try to put as much money in 401k and get out,move to a red state!
I didn’t vote for cantanzara, but now I wish I would have. You are doing a GREAT job!! Please continue to bring the fight to these asshole politicians. We know there is only so much you can do and it’s a lengthy process but keep your head up you’re the man. I hope you can negotiate for 20 years of service and retirement at 50 years old get us out of here safely so we can enjoy our deserved pensions.
THANK YOU president Cantanzara
Does anyone know how many of the newly elected fop board members have ever negotiated a contract? Having press conferences and complaining is great and all but with absolutely zero contract experience dont expect too much in that regard.
Where's OSHA re: working conditions??
As we can see the FOP went into federal court and made an emergency filing against the City, they have sent a letter to the Superintendent and they criticized the City’s new panel on the use of force policy. My question is, what is the Chicago Sergeant’s Association, the Chicago Lieutenant’s Association and the Chicago Captain’s Association doing about this? Do they have any comments, plans or suggestions? Their websites are covered with cobwebs from the same old stale news. Will they offer any support, are they on the same team?
6/18/2020 01:09:00 AM
Sergeant's union? Hahahahahahaha, you mean the union whose last president sold out the entire membership for a pathetic raise so he could make lieutenant and land in a cush district with only a couple months left until he retires?
I wouldn’t hold your breath. These people only care about their bloated salaries and they’re going to do just what the city wants. Everyone is connected to city hall. The whole thing is a sham played on the police officers and the public.
Lucky to find a judge in any court these days. They closed. Open by appointment for about 3 hours, one of which is actually bench time.
Any hoot, the judge said he would put that FOP request letter under advisement and maybe sometime next week he’ll decide if 12 hour days are excessive, in these challenging times.
The judge had to run, tee time appointment was coming up and he was a hour and a half drive away from the country club.
Keep in mind that CooCo judges are subject to being dumped for decisions that don’t fit the community narrative.
Since this is a Larri Deal it could be in our favor and therefore another opportunity to upset the Maniacal Angry Toad again.
OT Area 4 Sgt RE managed to get two coppers stripped and a COPA investigator fired! And was proud of it heard him in trader joes in Evanston bragging about it. Then I saw him off duty get into an Mplate Nissan. We can live with the COPA guy but not the two POs. When you see him coming please watch out. Thank god he is out of A3
While I never worked as a cop anywhere in Illinois I have worked as one on the east coast and grew up in Chicago and its suburbs. My advice to the CHicago cops is to hang in there and do the minimum amount of work necessary to protect yourself and your brother officers. Eventually, financial reality will set in with someone around Groot. Seven, 12 hour days in a week means 84 hours of pay even without time and a half for overtime. The city is short money and this is burning an extra large hole in their budget while revenues are down. These hours also undermine calls for a smaller police department. It's tough, but hang in there and keep yourselves safe!
Go Cat Go!
I was sick of spending union dues to bicker with Eric Zorn and the Tribune.
Well the democRATic supreme court ruled for the city on maintaining disciplinary records. It is in the best interest of the public to keep the records.
Moral of the story, this case, retiree health benefits, no-contribution health insurance, pension funding, etc. is that the city’s word is worthless, even in writing.
Act accordingly; protect your livelihood.
What about an emergency injunction to stop the madness.
Solo, the union will go to court and have judges decide that more man hours demands more men, so the City all be forced to hire more dues paying union policeman. Hmmm, kinda seems a little self serving, dont it?
Y'all really can't be THIS blatantly corrupt or oblivious, can you?
I get it, you dont like 12 hour days. Ummm do you think we like doing so to pat more taxes? You know, for things like ummm oooh police overtime or umm parking fines or traffic tickets?
Come on yall. Ya cant tell me ya don't see the circle jurk in place here...
My PAR Form for retirement has just been submitted!
Good Bye Chicago and FUCK YOU, Larry Lightfoot!
To my brothers stay safe as I watch you guys in my rear view mirror moving to Tennessee!
Imagine having surgery, and the doctor is exhausted!!!!!
Lodge 7 has never had a proactive president like Catanzara. Too bad Dineen, Nolan, Angelo, and, our immediate past president weren’t like John. This guy can’t be bought. Keep up the good work, Sir.
"I want to give a serious amount of praise to the FOP president, Catanzara. This has been the only president I have ever truly felt wasn’t in bed with the politicians. Seriously, this is what I always expected. Unfortunately, it’s just too late. He’s fighting a losing battling, which, in a way, makes me respect him even more. I just don’t need this shit and looking for another career, as are many others. I can’t say enough about how much I respect Catanzara but hopefully this job is nothing but a bad dream in under a year."
I could not agree more.
In just a few weeks you have become the best FOP pres ever!
It’s nice to have a FOP President with a set of balls.
Hey JCat
Keep up the great work.
Any consideration of officer with 20 years minimum to get bid spots to the desk , shot spotter, desk gigs. I did 20 years on the street & have to look at clout baby cowards with 3 years on inside! I know no one.
6/18/2020 02:52:00 AM
So does everybody else in every district and unit. Will never stop
city reources to protect private owned property owned by a merit commander
Anonymous said...
"I want to give a serious amount of praise to the FOP president, Catanzara. This has been the only president I have ever truly felt wasn’t in bed with the politicians. Seriously, this is what I always expected. Unfortunately, it’s just too late. He’s fighting a losing battling, which, in a way, makes me respect him even more. I just don’t need this shit and looking for another career, as are many others. I can’t say enough about how much I respect Catanzara but hopefully this job is nothing but a bad dream in under a year."
I could not agree more.
In just a few weeks you have become the best FOP pres ever!
6/18/2020 12:18:00 PM
I agree but it’s time to officially go to arbitration. It’s plainly obvious Lightfoot hates police officers and we will never get anywhere with her. She’s not a reasonable person and has anger management problems when she gets challenged. ARBITRATION NOW!
I pray for you every day JCat-- may God protect you from that twisted demon Leftfoot.
Has everyone checked their overtime slips? It seems like our district only 30 hrs of time was approved and the cancelled rdo’s are in a hold pattern. I believe the powers that be were told to only approve 30 hrs wtf? Our overtime is owed to us and not to be split up u less they told us they were doing it. Fop here are you
Retired in 2017 and still a member of the lodge. Voted for John because I seen he had balls during the monthly city hearings. He's not a pansie like Graham and the rest the past president's who used the position for a check. Voted for him and convinced some more POs to vote for him. I'm sure they're not regreting voting for him now. Keep up the good work JCat.
Anonymous said...
I am sure they will get to arguments and maybe a decision by Mid-September, maybe even before Labor Day if we are lucky!
6/18/2020 12:19:00 AM
Decision already out. we lost. Somebody made a phone call?????
Fop here are you
6/18/2020 06:58:00 PM
Here are they:
1412 W. Washington Blvd.
Chicago, Illinois 60607-1821
Phone: 312-733-7776
Good. Keep going after them every way we can. No matter how minor it may be just keep bringing them work. Keep them busy. Busier they are less they have time and the resources to ruin everything else.
Anonymous said...
As we can see the FOP went into federal court and made an emergency filing against the City, they have sent a letter to the Superintendent and they criticized the City’s new panel on the use of force policy. My question is, what is the Chicago Sergeant’s Association, the Chicago Lieutenant’s Association and the Chicago Captain’s Association doing about this? Do they have any comments, plans or suggestions? Their websites are covered with cobwebs from the same old stale news. Will they offer any support, are they on the same team?
6/18/2020 01:09:00 AM
Sergeant's union? Hahahahahahaha, you mean the union whose last president sold out the entire membership for a pathetic raise so he could make lieutenant and land in a cush district with only a couple months left until he retires?
6/18/2020 08:35:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Well the Sergeants Union sent out the Aug golf outing raffle tickets. That will keep you from those trifling matters.
6/18/2020 12:47:00 PM
All Exempt ranks are "merit."
J Cat, keep going, the cliff is just ahead.
What district are you in..
All my OT was approved...when said and done over 160 hrs after time and a half added
Desk spots are bid, we have younger guys on the desk because no one with time bid...our watch has about 8 guys with over 20 yrs and not one wanted the desk...whose fault is that
County Board voting to Defund the police
https://chicago.suntimes.com/politics/2020/6/18/21296314/cook-county-defund-police-resolution-preckwinkle-johnson
Let me try to explain this to all of you, AGAIN !!! The union, any union, is only as strong as it's membership. You want to pray for John Cantanzara ? That's fine. In my opinion, It's a "Cop Out"! Mr. Cantanzara needs more that your prayers, he needs to know you support his efforts to do all that can be done to protect you and your union benefits !!!
What to know how that is done ? Take a clue from the Chicago Teachers Union. You see how together they are, behind their leaders. Are you ready to "Stand On The Line With John" or stay home and pray for him.
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