Retirement Wave
Massive wave of retirements on tap, including this:
- SCC, just heard that half of the existing captains put in their papers in the past ten days after Brown has decided the rank is useless. Also a large number of lieutenants who realize that they've plateaued and will never get another promotion.
Now if Brownie would cut the number of Deputy Chiefs down to where it was ten years ago, we'd see some actual savings. We don't need twenty or more Deputy Chiefs when the Department used to do just fine with six.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
130 Comments:
Captain Chambers, smell ya later!
It's going to get much worse before it gets better. Just not enough new recruits to make up for all the retirements of po's and detectives. Just wait until a contract is approved (which could be awhile). There will be a mass exodus
Massive wave of retirements on tap, including this:
I'd love to retire again on behalf of the members that cannot...
Is disgraced ex-commander Captain Anthony Escamilla going to turn in his papers since he turns(ed?) 50 this month? Or is he still deluding himself into believing that he will one day make Deputy like he was telling his front office staff and CAPS Sgt just two years ago before his mighty downfall?
Remember they were going to cut 2,000 police officers?
They will need to hire 500 new officers to only lose 2,000 officers.
We have 50 Commanders and 19 Deputy Chiefs.
This is all about the contract and the cost of insurance, not about Captains per se.
Had to hit the button and retire within 90 days after contract was signed. There are a lot of retirements coming....
How is that Pension Fund doing?
Lol. The Captains had to wait before the Superintendent figured out their rank was useless before they could figure it out themselves. Why retire? It's not like he was going to make them direct traffic. Though if you are maxed out and are 55 you are a greedy loser that should have retired anyway.
Sorry, ain’t got no sympathy. Now that they feel the sting of shit rolling downhill it ain’t so pleasant, as when they shoved shit on the men and women in the trenches.
What about Captain Lamb?
Hope Tally And Darlin retire! Both useless
The command staff structure is way too top heavy. Why do we have so many gold stars?
They need to promote new sgts and detectives now because we will be decimated by end of 2020
Nobody wants to be here. 55 and out! Cross the state line and feel twenty years younger.
This city is going to have HUGE problems hiring anyone decent in this day and age. Better start paying us all more, especially the newbies. Good luck.
I know one captain that isn’t. Because he has rejected over 100 OT slips during all this nonsense. Hey , Paul, this should get you promoted ! You can be commander of swiping! Eventually you’ll need something that your bike crew can’t help you with. Then your fucked you miserable prick. By the way, just a heads up. Certain media people are now FOI”n all swipes in 019! And I mean ALL. So I hope you saved all the To Frms from 4 th watch
With the job being so shit... I am surprise people would stop smoking weed and lootin to even apply. Well Burke started off as a cop- maybe it’s just that now
He is doing interviews this coming week he is not getting rid of them. Captains that are leaving are doing so because the new supervisor contract had a deadline to take advantage of cheaper health care. Today (Saturday) was the cutoff for all supervisors to declare retirement to get the cheap health care
Cost cutting measure.
If you are able to retire right now.. DO IT !!
Dont let your pride get in the way. You worked hard and did your time and need to focus on you now. Your health and being with your family is more important than working for a communist Mayor that hates you. Retire and move to sunny AZ. That's what I did and am loving life!! :)
Well things are looking up then if your promotion minded. Although the position of Captain returned because the LT could not get along in the Dist. Will see
Remember the old saying There Are More Chiefs Than Indians
Smart people Go enjoy retirement !!!!! Anyone who is 55 years of age and has 29yrs on the job and does not retire is an idiot !!!!!
you’re Kinda wrong, we may have only had a few deputy chiefs (More than six but less than the existing) but we had a lot of ADS positions which are essentially the same rank just different name. We still have less exempt positions than we did 15-20 years ago.
They are leaving because there is a 30 day window to get out between around 20 September and 20 October; they will still only pay 2% instead of 3.5% for insurance if they are 55 years old.
You would have to be nuts not to take the deal.
Get out now if you can. Two more years for me.
Not a cop.
I can’t blame a single cop for getting out at some degree of early.
I continue to respect all those that choose to stay or are financially obligated
to stay on.
There are those of us who appreciate the dedication and hard work that go into the thin blue line.
And then there are those who claim victory from “forcing” cops to take early retirement.
Retire, enjoy the pension, let the young cops figure out what brand of policing the public wants to live with.
Law & order has certainly taken an early retirement here in Chiraq.
the dart school of public sector management dictates that there are never enough flunkies.
hey froghead, how many nameless complaints are your buddies at copa going to pursue after yesterday?
and why not get rid of the superintendent since we all know that Lightfoot runs the show?!
At the right time you needed experienced command staff!
But instead we get merit promotions of connected individuals!
And a suicide which has not been explained!
Now we start eliminating Captains Again!
That’s right the Department stopped Giving away captains spots back in late 80s to early 90s.
We then became heavy with Commanders and Chiefs of all kinds,
And you see where we are now?
Good BYE,most over promoted HACKS....
You put in your time, then you go. I hope most of them are leaving with their heads held high.
This is the city the people of Chicago deserve! You voted for this so shut the fuck up and enjoy it! 6
0 years of Democrat control and this is how it ends!!
Let "BLM" respond when there is no one left wearing a badge!
politics as usual, no matter who is on the 5th floor. CPD is the patronage and cronyism playground of the democratic party.
Ever since they brought back the role of Captain, and increased Deputy Chiefs, they have rewarded unqualified people aka, THEIR cronies and THEIR henchmen (hacks) with these positions as political favors. We know now that the Lt's test was a joke, but you had to be on that list to make the other list. We are now a top heavy and bloated upper ranks organization. All they can do is rattle their sabers and get selectively and morally outraged on issues that they are told to get fired up on. Do away with the merit system (yeah, I know) and these jerks will have no place to go. Let them retire as patrolmen. I'm willing to bet that CPD doesn't even know how to hold a legitimate promotion process right now. Triple merit promotees, shame on you...CPD brass, shame on you...You don't deserve any respect. No one will miss you.
Once a Lt realizes he or she will never go higher, and are only there to run the ship for the incompetent, connected, double merit, pension thief, idiots, time to go.
They were nothing but political favors and hacks who couldn't find shit in their mustaches when they were P.Os.Might save some money for the blue shirt grunts who actually earned their pensions slugging it out on the streets.
Wait until the F.O.P. contract gets settled!
Lots of blue shirts heading for the door, too!
Nobody wants this job in this shitty, city anymore!
The wave of retirements should be every gold star retiring after being told that the Lt pension is the top pension going forward so it is time to retire. These goofs are going to burn down the city (again). Everyone now has access to the pods through the SDSC rooms. Take a look for yourself if you weren’t there. The downtown protest last night that ultimately injured 17 of our members had under 100 participants. 100?! 100 of them and 500 of us. And the result was 23 arrests and hours and hours of chaos. What is their plan for 5000 protesters? I guess they will require 25,000 police.
Yes the captain spot was a total waste but The Deputy Chief spot is the most useless spot of all. There should be a commander and they answers directly to the chief.
We still have the Colonel of the Urinal position so that should probably go to.
Ok...But why are they scheduling interviews?
The less merit hacks the better. Most will NOT be missed!!
How about demoting everyone to career service rank before any merit promotions
Who gives a f**k what Brownie boi thinks about the CPT rank. Why run/retire if you're already a Captain. Its not like there's a remote possibility of stepping in some sort of shit on the street. The CPT position has endless perks. Take home car. No radio calls. All sorts of stipends for clothing and office supplies. 2 hour days if they decide to show up. If I'm not mistaken they put in for OT at the rate of close to $100/HR. The one perk Captains miss out on here is a private jet other than that CPD Captains have it better than 4 star Generals.
You're not pushing a beat car so it ain't that bad. F Groot and KEEP BANKRUPTING THE CITY! You earned it so make em' pay!
That’s good news seeing as most are fucking useless, were never the police and have OD’d on the Company Kool-Aid. There’s barely anyone occupying the upper ranks who WOULDN’T leave a lowly blue shirt twisting in the wind to save their own hide.
Good riddance to these undeserving pension-drainers.
The smart ones getting out while the getting is good. Have a plan B yet? Your going to need one real soon.
Re-Imagined 21st Century Police Model.
Hashed göring Brown is only following orders that were spelled out in the Chollie Beck - 8 Simple Rules to Policing handbook(1998 version) of course these rules were edited and tweaked by Larri’s propaganda ministers. Just when we thought management couldn’t get any worse than Who Me, Slumpy Slumperford. Hash Brown has very little authority, merely a window dressing again like the Right Man for the Right Time™️.
The compliant, malleable, unenthusiastic, lower energy Pooperintendant has no plan, just a title and a time frame to accomplish.
They’ll wash out all the remaining tough cookie GMac era captains, sort thru the imbeciles SpecialEd picked, get rest to leave or face degrading demotion, pretty much a competitive divide and conquer tactic.
Larri is pushing discipline and many of the bosses are seemingly not on board or doing enough to help her abolish FOP.
Larri sitting back (when in town) and allowing the downtown to be destroyed is akin to adolph’s reimagining after 1933 Reichstag.
They must comply.
As a Lieutenant with over ten years as a Lt in district patrol. I can tell you the majority of us never expect to make it past our current rank. We are humbled and happy to be promoted if we are chosen to based on our abilities, experience, knowledge. To say that we would up and retire because we feel we reached a plateau is not correct in my opinion.
To be honest, there shouldnt even be a "Chief" (Political correctness says thats a gonner title anyways) because the Mayor is the real head order giver at the cop shop and the MAYOR is who should get FIRED when things piss the public off!
Its sad to see them choose this way to rip the scab off the pension problem. Soon the politicians will blame the idea that they dont have enough officers paying in....
While we see need to cut, how about the 50 alderceatures, in a Nation where 100 Senators make decisions for the American population 330 million why do we need 50 aldercreatures deciding policy for 2.7 million.Oh is it because they can build a war chest of gifts from anyone wishing to do business in heir ward and handout jobs like a feudal lord, really not different than being a Senator. just a few million$ down on the money merry go round.
A lot of police officers are retiring, and if the city goes up and they send me, I will be one of them. No biggie, I have the age and years, it was a good run.
Captains rank is useless . It’s another 100% political appointment . Exactly like Commanders and above , the worst part is over 75% of Captains and above never passed a promotional exam for Sergeant or Lieutenant . So they are unqualified . I have said this for a long time , appoint exempt/ command staff from all ranks from Patrolman ,ET ,K9 Sergeant Lieutenant from the people that actually passed a test . You can use many factors , attendance , disciplinary records , medical use , awards , arrest history , recommendations from fellow officers , supervisors and education . Although with all the diploma mills , I would rely of the other qualifications . Maybe have them take a 100 question test of CPD police procedures , completion of reports , leadership responsibilities .
Remember 30% of Sergeant , Lieutenants are Merit , those are usually the ones that advance to Captain and above .
Remember a 50% score was considered a passing score on part 1 of the last sergeant exam , any student taking Law Enforcement classes or a licensed security officer could score better than 50%
Brown doesn’t do a very good job protecting front line officers from attacks , but eliminate Captain rank is a good idea .
Next , assign one Lt . As Watch commander in each district , have all other Lieutenants assigned to area with a few Lt.’s as acting watch Commanders and others as field Lieutenants . The field Lt ‘s would cover any where from one district to two districts to ensure every district has an on duty field Lt .
OT
Playing Catch-Up Baseball
17 shot in Cincinnati overnight.
BTW, "Baseball."
Forget BLM. Most of the team's themselves are tanking under
the strain of a 60-game schedule. Poor fucking babies.
It's Little League, folks. Automatic extra runner on second if
score tied in the 7th. (Hey, we can't let the kids play after dark,
right?). Pitchers consider it a game if they throw to 18 batters
(6 innings). Why you would watch this shit and see the BLM
burned into the dirt behind the mound is beyond me. What's
that in free advertising for these anarchists? And most big
name companies are placating these bozos. Jackson and
Sharpton look like pikers trying to shake down a Coke bottling
operation. Small time crooks for sure.
want to save real money? cut the number of aldermen, teachers and streets and san workers in half. all the above are doing nothing .
Semi Off Topic:
Anyone else noticing how it almost seems Supt BROWN is finally get’n it & has been surrounding himself w Intelligent Bosses (Love Deenihan), semi-cut those mayors puppet strings, and (finally) NOW backs the actions of his soldiers ten x’s fold.
In 1995 there was a huge hiring wave, those officers are at 25 years give or take. The next wave is going to be big.
He doesn't think Captains are useless, somebody gave you bad info. He thinks Captains as XOs are useless. He wants them back as Watch Commanders
Oh God that mean a shit load of newly made incompetence merit picks to run the department deeper into the ground. The BLM and other terrorist groups will have a field day with downtown when they see all the confusion among the superior leaders of CPD. I wish I had stock in knee pads cause I for see a run on them in the local stores
A bold statement that I am tired of the bullshit and I am doing something about it.
Please tell us 1100X is one of them.
Signed,
Entire 011th District
T.Lamb from SWAT is calling his clout everyday crying like a little girl. He deserved merit sgt. He deserved merit LT, and now he deserves merit Captain. Unbelievable!
This post on the Chicago Teacher Union site is why you might want to leave Chicago.
"CPS graduate and GoodKids MadCity leader Miracle Boyd among a new generation of Black youth putting their lives on the line against police-supported white supremacy."
https://www.ctulocal1.org/posts/tag/goodkids-madcity/
Sorry - don't feel bad for these guys for a minute. I could see it was typically a 'left turn' out of the promotional process. A consolation prize if you will. Pretty sad when a lowly patrolman can see it, but these guys who think its all legit with their rose colored glasses cant. As soon as they took any testing out of the rank, it became useless. Too bad, captain (SES)
Oh, Man...Just on Channel 7...(8/16/20) saw a bunch of latino punks being interviewed regarding yesterday's lawlessness in the Loop. They're saying our Police infiltrated their "protest" and planted agitators. Can you believe this? And Channel 7 gives these idiots air time? They are asking Groot, Brownie and our Police to apologize. Too bad there weren't any Ice Agents floating around. It's so out of control!
A class of Sgts will be made very soon to keep up with all these retirements.
Good luck with those large pensions. Hope you’re maxed out your deferred comp. When they finally finish and their plan has worked, there will be nothing left. All your wealth you worked for redistributed and nothing left. Yay future!
22 to go 4 -500, sept,oct, nov, dec, I say 650 for the year?
OT. We were told last night 1st watch that the 12 hour days were over. We were also told to report for the following day a little later then normal start time do to the fact that 2nd and 3rd watch were still going to be 12 hour days because they were not notified. O.k. however they came up with that is fine. Received a call from a fellow officer Sunday evening about 1730 hrs relating that we are in fact not done with 12 hr days and we are to report at 1900 hrs for 1st watch. Monday will start the normal schedule which for 1st watch is Sunday night for Monday. Who the fuck is running this shit show? They screwed the pooch on this one, can't even figure out how to revert to the normal schedule. We are truly doomed.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Lol. The Captains had to wait before the Superintendent figured out their rank was useless before they could figure it out themselves. Why retire? It's not like he was going to make them direct traffic. Though if you are maxed out and are 55 you are a greedy loser that should have retired anyway.
8/16/2020 12:40:00 AM
Hey asshole, you or anyone on this blog, or on this now fucked up department, has the right to tell anyone when to retire.
Even if they are the biggest jagoff on the job.
Out with the old connected In with the new connected.........
A nice aspect of retirement? Carrying a gun for only you.
T.Lamb from SWAT is calling his clout everyday crying like a little girl. He deserved merit sgt. He deserved merit LT, and now he deserves merit Captain. Unbelievable!
8/16/2020 02:21:00 PM
LT Lamb destroyed the SWAT team to make merit SGT and LT. He should be dumped to a district.
I’m waiting for this extra money and after Labor Day that will be my last 12 hour days and the last holiday I ever work. The house is sold, my wife just went down to Florida two weeks ago where she started her “retirement job” in our new home on the inter coastal waterway in fort Myers, my 28 ft twin 250 fishing boat is in the water and I’m out of here. No more city for me. I’m renting month by month and my last rent payment will be October 1. I start furlough and I’m done. Sometime in November I’ll come back in for my headquarters retirement day. You can keep the retirement star and you can keep the cake a coffee. I’m flying in the night before and I fly back out of midway at 5pm that same day. My kids fled the city in the past year and are already living and working down in the fort Myers Florida area where we are moving. Chicago and Illinois lost me and my wife, my two daughters and their husbands and my son who is now a Florida state trooper as of three months ago. Leave this state. Leave now.
We should be uniting and pushing the union to argue for a 401(k) or a 401(a) IN ADDITION to our pension and 457(b) aka deferred compensation. NYPD has it.
What difference does it make if there is no pension?
Look for Staples to be pulling the pin soon.
The hiring process has kicked off again. I was just sent notification to report to the academy for the power test.
Are they still allowing Candy KANE to steal O.T. $$$?Talk about teflon.
You don’t need captains. Have an administrative district Lt with an admin sgt and 4 admin POs upstairs and that’s all you need. That includes the commanders secretary. That’s it, 4 POs a sgt and Lt can handle all of the admin for the district. Yet, some of these districts have 10 POs and two sgts assigned to the commanders office. GTFO. Dump out the dead weight of dollies hiding upstairs. And enough of the three or 4 DIOs. Two DIOs at most is all you needs. Two POs in the SDSC room per watch and that’s it. Some of these districts will have a sgt and 5 POs and the civilian in the room on days to hide people.
A SGTS class that was slated to begin September 8 has been cancelled. It was the Charlie beck no merit system. It was pulled. They are going to ask for merit packets this week. So don’t expect a class, with merit to now go in till end of October at the earliest.
Anonymous said...
Look for Staples to be pulling the pin soon.
8/16/2020 08:31:00 PM
She was dumped to 010.
"You're listening to me on batteries."
-Radio talk show host blowing off David Brown afer a failed
attempt to explain cutting the Captain rank.
Anonymous said...
T.Lamb from SWAT is calling his clout everyday crying like a little girl. He deserved merit sgt. He deserved merit LT, and now he deserves merit Captain. Unbelievable!
8/16/2020 02:21:00 PM
Don’t know what happened to Tommy but he was a good cop in SOS. He sold out like the rest of the merit fucks.
Dicks class coming soon too.
Hey asshole, you or anyone on this blog, or on this now fucked up department, has the right to tell anyone when to retire.
Even if they are the biggest jagoff on the job.
8/16/2020 06:48:00 PM
Lol. Well, I guess your personal life isn't going so well and you have to stay on CPD. My condolences. You are wrong though. I do have the right to post that on this blog, otherwise it wouldn't have been published. If it's due to things out of your control like having to support a family member then my apologies. If you are some goof that cheated on his wife and had a kid in his 40s with some hood rat, desk dolly, or bar maid, then oh well. Don't cry on here and expect me to give a fuck
Anyone else noticing how it almost seems Supt BROWN is finally get’n it & has been surrounding himself w Intelligent Bosses (Love Deenihan), semi-cut those mayors puppet strings, and (finally) NOW backs the actions of his soldiers ten x’s fold.
8/16/2020 12:24:00 PM
Saw a minion at HQ and they were looking scared Ha!
Someone on this blog don’t like Lamb. I like the guy. Whatever just a regular cop.
As a Lieutenant with over ten years as a Lt in district patrol. I can tell you the majority of us never expect to make it past our current rank. We are humbled and happy to be promoted if we are chosen to based on our abilities, experience, knowledge. To say that we would up and retire because we feel we reached a plateau is not correct in my opinion.
8/16/2020 10:47:00 AM
There are many other variables which must be taken into consideration when making a decision to retire, however, a career plateau can be a tipping point for some people.
22 to go 4 -500, sept,oct, nov, dec, I say 650 for the year?
650 no, try 800+. What you forgot to factor in to your prediction is
that the honor students are not going back to school in September.
The body count currently is ahead of the 2016 murderous pace which ended with
about 800 kilt. The honor students were in school and the pace
of killings slowed, but you still had an 800 body count. The violence
in the shitty has a direct correlation with the weather conditions and
how many targets are out and about. Violence always picks up in
June, starts to slow down in September and finally dies down in the
winter. My prediction 825.
I’m retiring at 20 years on this job, fuck that 29 and a day bullshit. Get me the fuck outta here, I’ll get a part time gig in another state...
There should be 65 Captains for the district Watch Commander like before. You can't have Lieutenants running a watch. A lot of watches we have lieutenants under cutting the assigned authority of the assigned W/C.
"Sometime in November I’ll come back in for my headquarters retirement day. You can keep the retirement star and you can keep the cake a coffee. "
Congratulations.
Order the retirement Star. You earned it.
Maybe the grandkids will like to see it, you earned it.
Toss it in the back of a drawer, you earned it.
Someday you may regret not getting it, you earned it.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Look for Staples to be pulling the pin soon.
8/16/2020 08:31:00 PM
She should take Area South Sgt TC with her!
you’re Kinda wrong, we may have only had a few deputy chiefs (More than six but less than the existing) but we had a lot of ADS positions which are essentially the same rank just different name. We still have less exempt positions than we did 15-20 years ago.
The above post is not true, I got on in 1996 and there were less then 45 exempt spots for the entire police department and that is counting the 25 district commanders. I watched King Richie slowly create more exempt spots over the years to reward his political hacks and the number of exempts just kept growing. He created new names and new positions that were definitely not needed just so he good grow his political army. The above post is correct about the city changing the names of the exempt positions, but we sure do have many more exempts then we did 15 or 20 years ago, but we do have 3 fewer district commanders, but many more made up units with commanders. So yes we are way to top heavy, which is exhausting our pensions at a much faster rate because of the gold braid pension boost.
OFFICERS !!!!! Wake Up IF YOU HAVE THE AGE AND YEARS RETIRE !!!!! Ladies and gentlemen wake up !!!!
They tried this before and it turned into a dick measuring contest among the lts. Someone has to be the boss and have the final say.
How does Staples go from the short list of Superintendent candidate to demotion from Chief, Street Deputy to Lieutenant in eight months?
Lol. The Captains had to wait before the Superintendent figured out their rank was useless before they could figure it out themselves. Why retire? It's not like he was going to make them direct traffic. Though if you are maxed out and are 55 you are a greedy loser that should have retired anyway.
Me, I’m a greedy PO loser who is staying until 63.
Anonymous said...
A nice aspect of retirement? Carrying a gun for only you.
8/16/2020 07:11:00 PM
Yes, and you can walk away if you want to. But, make sure you get insurance, homeowners does not cover shooting anyone. I pay 200 bucks a year for 2 million coverage
25 years at age 55. 7 more years, having fun.
I’m retiring at 20 years on this job, fuck that 29 and a day bullshit. Get me the fuck outta here, I’ll get a part time gig in another state...
TILL YOU ARE 67 YEARS OLD ENJOY SHARPIE!!!!
She pissed off Lori because Lori doesn't like anyone from the LBGT club who doesn't bow down to her.
I’m staying for the chaos. Can’t make this shit up. Only a few more years till I’m kicked out the door at 63. Feel like I’m 30 still so what’s the difference? If you having fun stick around and enjoy the show.
Let’s face it, we all know the important part the x/os have in the running of this department.
The department has struggled for years without them. We just didn’t realize it until now and besides where were all those merits supposed to go anyway?
Probably lots of people eligible to retire now. If there is little chance of career advancement, why stick around if career advancement is important to you?
It is not like there is a huge market for ex Chicago PD exempts, given the horrible rep the department has across most of the country, but a LT or CPT who managed to avoid bad publicity could probably find a similar position elsewhere.
Don’t know what happened to Tommy but he was a good cop in SOS. He sold out like the rest of the merit fucks.
8/16/2020 10:38:00 PM
He wasn't. Just another juice baby that constantly gets taken care of. Cries every chance when they don't get there way. Its never enough for them.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How does Staples go from the short list of Superintendent candidate to demotion from Chief, Street Deputy to Lieutenant in eight months?
8/17/2020 03:53:00 AM
Fucking awesome if true!!!
Anonymous said...
A nice aspect of retirement? Carrying a gun for only you.
8/16/2020 07:11:00 PM
US citizens get to do this everyday as granted by the 2nd Amendment under the Bill of Rights
Staples clout obviously gone, but still gonna deplete the pension
How does Staples go from the short list of Superintendent candidate to demotion from Chief, Street Deputy
to Lieutenant in eight months?
She went to LT to get the Aetna ins from fop.
Defund the police by lowering the salary of the clout heavy command staff. Way over paid political connected idiots!
How does Staples go from the short list of Superintendent candidate to demotion from Chief, Street Deputy to Lieutenant in eight months?
8/17/2020 03:53:00 AM
Hahaha you must've been a detective under her because if it's not evident you never had your eye's opens
Walked around like a deer in the headlights anytime brains were required
Man, I wish the city would just buy us crusty old fucks that they don't want out. Let the hair gels have it.
Well well well, so what some of you ate saying is that the positive of captain is important? Well to me it sounds amd is a clout friend heavy position used to give someone a bump I pay. But no worse that they bullsit position of Lt or Sgt position that is meritorious given to people who know someone. Hell half the people that were just promoted to Commander and above couldn't lead or have never held the position of leader before. So basically this entire police department game is a bunch of bullshit. There I feel better now getting that off my chest amd knowing I am down to 2 months to retirement
Yeah the below is very wrong.
5 Bureaus with 4 Deputy superintendents and the First deputy
5 Chiefs Patrol, Detectives, IAD and Organized Crime, Chief of Accountability Chiesa
18 Deputy Chiefs/ADS
In 2000 we had 96 exempt spots with
8 Deputy chiefs of patrol after CCG and including Special functions
1- Deputy chief CAPS/ Management and Accountability
4 Street Deputies ADS/same rank as Deputy Chief
1 Deputy Chief of NAGIS
1 ADS Admin services
3 Deputy Chiefs of Investigative services Field groups A,B,C
60+ Commanders and Directors
85 Captains not exempt
Anonymous said...
The above post is not true, I got on in 1996 and there were less then 45 exempt spots for the entire police department and that is counting the 25 district commanders. I watched King Richie slowly create more exempt spots over the years to reward his political hacks and the number of exempts just kept growing. He created new names and new positions that were definitely not needed just so he good grow his political army. The above post is correct about the city changing the names of the exempt positions, but we sure do have many more exempts then we did 15 or 20 years ago, but we do have 3 fewer district commanders, but many more made up units with commanders. So yes we are way to top heavy, which is exhausting our pensions at a much faster rate because of the gold braid pension boost.
8/17/2020 02:49:00 AM
The Sheriff eliminated the rank of Captain
This was a mistake. But the Elimination saved the Pension Program
No Captains. XO's in place at the Districts
Let's consider what Sir Robert Peel started back in the Day
Let's consider what O. W. Wilson started back in the Day
Great job , the Captain rank is useless and so are most Lt's for that matter. When the looting started last week all we heard on the radio was a couple of Sgt's and that was it for a long time ! Too many white shirts taking care of each other and it is a waste of taxpayer money and not helping the pension situation. If they really want to save even more money get rid of all these fire bosses. Did you ever see how many white shirts show up on some of the simplest calls . I've seen more show up on an accident scene than they probably had at the Great Chicago Fire !
nonymous said...
A nice aspect of retirement? Carrying a gun for only you.
8/16/2020 07:11:00 PM
Yes, and you can walk away if you want to. But, make sure you get insurance, homeowners does not cover shooting anyone. I pay 200 bucks a year for 2 million coverage
8/17/2020 07:07:00 AM
nonymous said...
A nice aspect of retirement? Carrying a gun for only you.
8/16/2020 07:11:00 PM
A nice aspect is carrying a gun ONLY for you
Yes, and you can walk away if you want to. If you are smart that will be your course of action. Anything else is too risky to contemplate.
Your days of being society's hero and saviour are over.
8/17/2020 07:07:00 AM
Don't retire yet file lawsuits over not being promoted if it doesn't workout then retire!
Lightfoot should become Superintendent and Mayor. Thats what commies do. If Biden wins we will be just like Venezuela.
CLOWNS
Anonymous said...
I’m staying for the chaos. Can’t make this shit up. Only a few more years till I’m kicked out the door at 63. Feel like I’m 30 still so what’s the difference? If you having fun stick around and enjoy the show.
8/17/2020 07:43:00 AM
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Seek professional help.
Wow what a revelation, the department survived without the rank of captain for years until a clown decided to help his political cronies and golf buddies. And suddenly it’s realized captains aren’t needed.!! Or could the real reason be;
“Former Chicago Police Supt. Garry McCarthy told WGN he was shocked by the lack of diversity in the latest captains class selections. McCarthy expressed support for Brown. “ 15 captains included, I black, 1 Hispanic and 13 white.
Hahaha there’s always an underlying reason.
But really, was McCarthy “shocked” . Come on now, who believes that statement .
To: The above post is not true, I got on in 1996 and there were less then 45 exempt spots for the entire police department and that is counting the 25 district commanders.
Nit exactly true.... There were more than 45 back then.
I’m staying for the chaos. Can’t make this shit up. Only a few more years till I’m kicked out the door at 63. Feel like I’m 30 still so what’s the difference? If you having fun stick around and enjoy the show.
8/17/2020 07:43:00 AM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Glorified house mouse? Never seen the streets? No worries babe, stay the extra couple yrs. Not everyone in the entitled positions
eliminate all rank above captain , assign Lt as DC perk a bonus for doing the job , a city car , most weekends and nights off .
this will save our pension , do we really need political hacks draining our pension fund .
Yeah the below is very wrong.
5 Bureaus with 4 Deputy superintendents and the First deputy
5 Chiefs Patrol, Detectives, IAD and Organized Crime, Chief of Accountability Chiesa
18 Deputy Chiefs/ADS
In 2000 we had 96 exempt spots with
8 Deputy chiefs of patrol after CCG and including Special functions
1- Deputy chief CAPS/ Management and Accountability
4 Street Deputies ADS/same rank as Deputy Chief
1 Deputy Chief of NAGIS
1 ADS Admin services
3 Deputy Chiefs of Investigative services Field groups A,B,C
60+ Commanders and Directors
85 Captains not exempt
Anonymous said...
The above post is not true, I got on in 1996 and there were less then 45 exempt spots for the entire police department and that is counting the 25 district commanders. I watched King Richie slowly create more exempt spots over the years to reward his political hacks and the number of exempts just kept growing. He created new names and new positions that were definitely not needed just so he good grow his political army. The above post is correct about the city changing the names of the exempt positions, but we sure do have many more exempts then we did 15 or 20 years ago, but we do have 3 fewer district commanders, but many more made up units with commanders. So yes we are way to top heavy, which is exhausting our pensions at a much faster rate because of the gold braid pension boost.
You are giving me 2000 statistics, when I got on there was only 7 Captains in the entire city. Those were the 7 sell out captains that signed away the civil servant status to the city for a measly $25,000.00 pay out. Then King Richie went on his power spree and brought back the Captain position with out having a test, he turned the entire position into a merit clout position. There were 5 area commanders and 6 ADS, and 25 District commanders. 5 chiefs of the Area, 1 chief of patrol, 1 chief of Admin. The units only had LT's as commanding officers which gave them a little boost in pay, but did not give them a gold braid pension. I may be wrong by 5 or six, but there was definitely not as many gold braid positions back in 1996 as there is now. If any thing you above post explains when the abusive politics actually got wings and started creating gold braid spots for the political class.
"...You can keep the retirement star..."
That star cuts a lot of red tape in Lee County Florida. The sheriff will give you an I.D. for concealed carry. We are well regarded down there.
"...How can Staples go from short list of Superintendent to lieutenant in eight months..."
It is a well known fact that female members of the LSMFTOU812 community do not play well together.
From one who knows.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Dick measuring contest???
Do they need a judge?
I have to sit down now. I think I am getting a case of the vapors.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
I remember when captains were men. Manly, burly men......and Helen DeWitt.
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