Thursday, September 10, 2020

Legislative Alert

The left is attacking on multiple fronts. While the rioting is distracting everyone and the national election is taking center stage, this is happening in Springfield (click for larger and scarier view):


The truly scary parts:
  • any provision in a CBA not directly related to wages and/or benefits is against public policy and unenforceable;
Guess what is included?
  • deletes provision for Sworn Affidavit;
  • deletes referals to the States Attorney for prosecution in the event of a Fasle Affidavit being filed;
  • deletes any provision for required legal representation during investigation or interrogation (that means shootings);
  • deletes all the Garrity provisions (that Administrative investigations, i.e. you must answer this or be fired, can now be used against you in criminal proceedings, meaning you will be compelled to give evidence against your own self interest);
  • if we're reading the last lines correctly, deletes provisions that you can refuse to submit to a lie detector test and any refusals can therefore be used against you.
We've stated here and elsewhere, police shouldn't be above the law. This proposal puts police not only under the law, but under the bus and any train that happens to be around.

If we proposed putting actual murderers under these proposed rules, we'd be accused of all sorts of fascistic impulses and secret-police type shit. Democrats propose this in Springfield with nary a peep from anyone in their ranks.

184 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

eaves every LEO in ILLinoise naked and afraid.

9/10/2020 12:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The DemocRATS want to destroy the country. They are starting in the big cities.

9/10/2020 12:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

https://chambanasun.com/stories/529692979-rep-carol-ammons-under-investigation-for-alleged-charity-thrift-store-theft

9/10/2020 12:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A dog shit rapist or pedophile are treated better than cops. You better make sure you and your family vote in November, our lives actually depend on it.

9/10/2020 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this horrorshow passes, then the 5th Amendment is your friend after any incident: Say NOTHING. Refuse to comply. The only word is: LAWYER.

Does it delete the part about not being able to strike? Because again, if this passes, 13.3ms after it does, go on strike.

FOP's response should be: "If you thought the CTU strike was bad, watch this."

9/10/2020 12:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I’m no lawyer, but wouldn’t this be an ex post facto law?

9/10/2020 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rep Carol Ammons introduced this legislation.

Check out this out about her.

https://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/courts-police-fire/special-prosecutor-to-review-allegations-against-urbana-legislator/article_c9f37c40-4924-528f-a2fa-d54a633854c7.html

9/10/2020 12:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let’s see what happens when our beloved leader is gonna handle this . Not a clue ! Hold on he’s saying something ? Fore ! I’m sorry the Papa outing is more important ! Good luck fellas when your twelve hour tour is over stop by for a burger !

9/10/2020 12:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This was proposed by Carol Ammons the communist. Vote her out next election.

9/10/2020 12:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Delete the Democrat.

9/10/2020 12:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I’m going to say it. These mother fuckers need to be lined up against a wall.

Have family and friends call their respective state rep and/or state senator and voice opposition to the bill. Defund the police on the front end and defund on the back end by pulling the rug out from beneath us.

Can’t help but believe that the dwarf is somehow mixed up in this.

9/10/2020 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Filed by Carol Ammons, the shoplifter who steals from charity:

https://chambanasun.com/stories/529692979-rep-carol-ammons-under-investigation-for-alleged-charity-thrift-store-theft

9/10/2020 12:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck these scumbag lawyers. Do nothing. No proactive police work. Only fools can’t see the writing on the wall.

9/10/2020 12:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Multiple Fronts Indeed
ESPN Presdient Jimmy Pitaro has decided to drop Hank
Williams Jr. from Monday Night Football. Instead, you'll
hear a canned Little Richard do 'Rip It Up' backed by a
modern day all-Black band. Sure you still wanna watch?
It's here, folks. Indoctrination in every facet of society.
You just have to say NO.

9/10/2020 12:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck it..I surrender..time to pull the pin on this 25 year career choice mistake and retire! It took 25 years to go from loving this job, to hating this job! To quote The Greatful Dead “what a long, strange, trip it’s been”

9/10/2020 12:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, did you this https://thejussiesmollettcase.wordpress.com?



9/10/2020 01:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the "Reckoning" Groot was speaking of

9/10/2020 01:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does Atty General Barr know about this?..
.bunch of aholes

Oh yeah, don't let anyone shame you for "doggin it". Fetal overdrive.

9/10/2020 01:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC please let us know if we need to file witness slips opposing this. Then we can get the word out.

9/10/2020 01:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Labor unions need to know about this. And if their leaders already know, then their membership needs to know as well. This is a broadside at collective bargaining on every level.

9/10/2020 01:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok so what can we do now, who can we call or write letters to? Maybe we should Organize a protest down in Springfield. We definitely can't just sit back and let this happen.

9/10/2020 01:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You cops need to list the phone numbers of all the prominent politicians and call them and have all your family members call their offices. Need to call the bill sponsor too!

9/10/2020 01:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here’s what you need to know:

You need to know who your elected officials are and what kind of bills they are pushing as most people are sleeping and have no idea as to what’s going on in Congress, the State House and the City Council. And while those people are sleeping the far left is moving quickly to amend your life.

Bill in question: Title: Police-Barganing-Complaints. Illinois House Bill 5830. 8 Sep 20

Sponsor: Ill. State Rep. Carol Ammons (DEMOCRAT-103rd District - Champaign/Urbana)

Was a community organizer, elected to Champaign County Board, then Urbana City Council, when she left for State Rep., the Council filled her seat with her husband Aaron Ammons!!!!!!

Endorsed by: US Senator Bernie Sanders

Member of: Illinois Legislative Black Caucus

Some bills of hers: HR 0906. Urges United Nations to pass resolution denouncing and charging the United States with the crime of genocide against the black population.

HR 5823. Demilitarization of policing in Illinois.

HR 5826. Police non lethal policy act.

The list goes on. If you want more information on what our politicians are doing and the bills they are pushing go to: legiscan.com. Just insert a word where it says “keyword” Pull out your voter card, find out who your elected officials are and see what they are doing for you. Or better yet see what they are doing to you.

9/10/2020 01:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What's the title? "The Fuck Da Poleece Act?"

9/10/2020 01:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are living in clown world. Stay fetal boys.

9/10/2020 02:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pardon please for what I am about to say:
Should this shithole state, run by lying, thieving, no good rotten democrats
who have robbed it BLIND for the last 40 years, should this state enact this
piece of socialist legislation, then each and EVERY OFFICER IN THIS STATE
OUGHT TO RISE UP, STAND TOGETHER, and tell them all to GET FUCKED.....
And then submit resignation letters, retirement letters, and WALK OFF THE JOB
that day! Because under this legislation, you HAVE NO RIGHTS AT ALL!
You become a literal walking TARGET!
Let THEM police DUDE......Let THEM go pick up the bodies of the babies being
killed.....let THEM take the abuse from the wilding shitheads day after day, week
after week......
THOUSANDS SHOT.....HUNDREDS KILLED.....but these JAGOFFS think POLICE are the problem?
And they want to FUCK OVER THE ONLY THING THAT STANDS BETWEEN TOTAL CHAOS
from the perpetually aggrieved taking it out on decent, hard working taxpayers? Take away officers rights?
Go fuck yourselves......you pandering pieces of shit.
Go take care of the 13% that creates 90% of the mayhem.
There isn’t a crime statistic in the last ten years that doesn’t bear this out as TRUTH.

9/10/2020 02:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's the getto POS trying to push this junk.
http://www.staterepcarolammons.com

9/10/2020 03:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BLUE FLUE!!!! FOP needs to organize this asap~

It needs to happen. Set a date in advance, and for one day let these liberals see what its like without the police to protect them. Watch how fast these libs beg for the police to come back.

This abuse of the police needs to stop once and for all!!

9/10/2020 03:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

just another dirty Madigan corrupt dem
https://www.news-gazette.com/opinion/columns/jim-dey-county-treasurer-blasts-ammons-leadership-of-local-dems/article_412b81e7-ba62-5017-bf99-8993ad89d7ae.html

9/10/2020 03:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This can’t be serious

9/10/2020 03:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.staterepcarolammons.com/read-me

9/10/2020 04:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has anyone ever been charged with anything in relation to filing a false affidavit against a police officer. Hear the crickets chirping, it will never happen.

9/10/2020 04:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

STEALING FROM A CHARITY? REALLY CAROL? Special Prosecutor appointed in State Rep Carol Ammons (alleged) retail theft case
January 25, 2020


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAy7EJEyres

https://www.gunssavelife.com/stealing-from-a-charity-really-carol-special-prosecutor-appointed-in-state-rep-carol-ammons-alleged-retail-theft-case/

9/10/2020 04:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this nonsense can be brought to a stand-still in a heartbeat if the tact warriors stopped the bullshit and the shootings and homicides doubled now ... Wake the fu@k up clowns. Yes, especially you moron's in 005.

9/10/2020 04:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you aware that representative Carol Ammons (D) husband is the Champaign County Clerk? You know the county clerk who is entrusted in democratic party run and controlled elections. His name is Aaron Ammons (D), Clerk of Champaign County.

* In 1992 Aaron Ammons was arrested for Possession of a Controlled Substance, Aggravated battery and Intimidation of a witness.

*In 1993 Aaron Ammons again was arrested with felony Possession of a Controlled Substance.

*In 1994 Aaron Ammons was again arrested and charged with felony Delivery of Cannabis and Resisting a Peace Officer

*In 1995 while on probation from his 1993 felony conviction, Aaron Ammons violated his probation

Then Governor Quinn (D) granted a pardon to Aaron Ammons a pardon after his wife Carol Ammons (D) was elected as an Illinois State Representative serving the marginal voters of her district. Miraculously, his pardon was given in time so he was in consideration to fill the vacancy of of his wife as Councilman in Champaign. But after numerous questionable applications for the Champaign County Clerk’s Office, Aaron Ammons (D) was elected by the people and folks entrusted to oversee, manage and manipulate the sacred right to vote.

Career felon, violator of State ethics laws governing elected officials, clerk of the county and wife of a democrat state representative are all part of his resume.
In his pardon papers submitted to the Prisoner Review Board, Aaron Ammon’s sought the reinstatement of his right to possess firearms. That’s funny. I thought democrats were against guns. The following link is a good read.

https://edgarcountywatchdogs.com/2018/10/aaron-ammons-champaign-county-clerk-candidate-files-false-incomplete-sei-in-bid-for-election/

9/10/2020 05:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Carol Ammons is the most liberal Madigan stooge in down state Illinois with a safe district of the Champaign/Urbana/U of I. Her husband Aaron is the Champaign County Clerk and IIRC their daughter is aspiring to political greatness also. I don't know if it has been resolved yet but several months ago Carol Ammons was accused of stealing/shoplifting an expensive purse, probably swept under the rug. Just another reason I am so glad I moved to Indiana this last spring, get out now if you can.

9/10/2020 05:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i would help to identify the assholes that drafted and sponsored this nonsense. play their game. dox them. confront a leftist, watch them cower.

9/10/2020 05:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can a law be enacted claiming something is 'against public policy' when, in fact, it is not? Doesn't seem so.

The Supreme COurt has invented some constitutional rights out of thin air, one being the 'right to privacy' which forbids prohibition of abortion. Another, and this works to our benefit, no matter what you think of the right, is the 'right to contract.' So a legislator cannot limit the 'right to contract' unless the government has a 'compelling interest,' which is hard to come by, generally. Here is the case that deals with the 14th amendment right to contract:
Lochner v. New York

In 1902 a New York baker named Joseph Lochner was fined for violating a state law limiting the number of hours his employees could work. He sued the state on the grounds that he was denied his right to "due process." Lochner claimed that he had the right to freely contract with his employees and that the state had unfairly interfered with this. In 1905, the Supreme Court used the due process clause to declare unconstitutional the New York state statute imposing a limit on hours of work. Rufus Wheeler Peckham wrote for the majority: "Under that provision no state shall deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law. The right to purchase or to sell labor is part of the liberty protected by this amendment."

9/10/2020 05:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This amendment was written by State Rep. Carol Ammons. On her web page her number one priority is to “stop cash bails.” So now she wants to change the law so that any one can make any complaint against an officer and if found to be false there are no repercussions to the complainant. If you get into a shooting you have no rights and must make a statement. Unfrickenbelievable. Hopefully this doesn’t get passed in the mean time stop proactive police work. They want to fire you and then throw you in jail. Just say no!

9/10/2020 05:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here is what an article on Aaron Ammons written by Kirk Allen and John Kraft dated October 05, 2018 revealed about Carol Ammons:

Dignity and Integrity?
His wife, current State Representative Carol Ammons, "was challenged before the March 2014 Democratic primary for falsely claiming to have a college degree. It turned out the degree was from an overseas diploma mill. Carol Ammons also made news years ago when she for ran for, and was elected to, the Urbana school board even though she was not a legal resident of the school district. The board ultimately denied her a seat." (Quoted from the News- Gazette)


After getting caught shoplifting from a non-profit thrift store (so ghetto of a Illinois State elected democrat), she seeks to regulate the police. Incidentally after this incident she introduced legislation to increase the felony threshold on behalf of criminal shoplifters to $2,000.00. An Illinois representative that can restrict your freedoms, confiscate your income through punitive tax laws and regulate the shit out of you can't obey the laws herself. Lets appoint a special prosecutor and impeach and then remove her from further destroying our way of life and our civilized society.


https://edgarcountywatchdogs.com/2018/10/illinois-when-do-laws-matter/

9/10/2020 05:18:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

That's what Democrats do. They put the crazies on a pedestal and destroy normal people.

9/10/2020 05:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To all you in blue, get out of Chicago. Even if it means a pay decrease, the taxes in Chicago pretty much equalizes the pay rate of other cities and towns. My husband is a retired Chicago policeman and we are free to move out of Chicago. The best thing to happen to us. We are a short distance away in Elmwood Park and spend winters in Florida, and what a world of difference. Police are respected and appreciated, lots of amenities and the schools (if you have kids) are top rate. Things are only going to get worse in Chicago. Stay safe out there.

9/10/2020 06:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I happen to live in one of those rare Republican districts in our state but if you post some thoughts on the best places to target with trying to counter this (for example, would county board pressure of the state reps in that county be an effective tool since this would impact county sheriffs and local municipal police?) I would be willing to start making calls to my local reps. A little more info on where you think the best pressure points would be and I am sure your readers would be pretty active in assisting.

9/10/2020 06:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So this was filed by Carol Ammons. If you look her up in the downstate newspaper newsgazette.com, you will see she is under investigation for stealing a purse from a hospital thrift store.

Also, her husband is the county clerk Aaron Ammons. He is a felon for selling/having dope but his wife was nice enough to push for a pardon a couple governors ago.

The whole family is just a bunch of asshat mopes.

9/10/2020 06:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lots of provisions and changes to the laws are taking place in Illinois and all other Democratic states without much attention being made about it because everyone is focused on Covid and riots. This should be fought tooth and nail to protect the police -- I read this and I said shocked.

9/10/2020 06:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who is Carol Ammons?

9/10/2020 06:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you kidding?

https://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/courts-police-fire/special-prosecutor-to-review-allegations-against-urbana-legislator/article_c9f37c40-4924-528f-a2fa-d54a633854c7.html

9/10/2020 06:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They are already talking about filling up empty school buildings with the homeless, (another name for CPS graduate) They intend to salt the earth with this caustic product.

9/10/2020 06:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Every police union representative in Illinois should request a meeting with Carol Ammons so she can explain in person how she and her bill are not anti-police. I am sure she would be open to dialogue and isn't closed minded at all about how police are the problem.

http://www.staterepcarolammons.com/meeting-request

9/10/2020 06:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Check out that last paragraph...sound like our deficient cook county prosecutor was able to make policy what thief Ammons couldn't make law:
Retail Theft Felony amount from 300 to 2,000? Oh, and no felony unless prior convictions...sound familiar? Ugh...

https://chambanasun.com/stories/529692979-rep-carol-ammons-under-investigation-for-alleged-charity-thrift-store-theft

9/10/2020 06:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Holy shite...look at the legislation this racist / America hater has filed?

https://legiscan.com/IL/people/carol-ammons/id/17411

9/10/2020 06:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't get her endgame, more dead 8 year olds, more car jacking. She, as a well educated person should know that dude will always be dude.

9/10/2020 07:02:00 AM  
Blogger Prairiepolice said...

Google Carol ammons... she steals a purse on camera from a thift store in Urbana. Referred to the AG in Febuary for charges. Nothing since. She had to quit the Urbana school board as she lied as to where she lived. Her husband a convicted drug and gun user gets a pardon from Quinn in the last days of his administration so he can take her spot on the Urbana city council. No one can find the application. He is now in charge of running the elections here in Champaign county as he is the clerk. He already screwed up the primary.....this bill goes no where.

9/10/2020 07:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

https://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/courts-police-fire/special-prosecutor-to-review-allegations-against-urbana-legislator/article_c9f37c40-4924-528f-a2fa-d54a633854c7.html

State Rep Carrol Ammoms, who proposed this legislation, appears to be a shoplifter.

9/10/2020 07:29:00 AM  
Blogger Your Correspondent said...

SCC, I can't make out what the bill number is. We'll be calling our reps as soon as we know which bill it is exactly.
Thanks.

9/10/2020 07:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/orland-hills-police-chief-dismissed-from-post-after-social-media-post/2336677/

9/10/2020 07:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When Trump is re-elected and Pat O'Brien is elected it will be time for all law enforcement across the nation to unite especially here in Chicago and go after our politicians and teachers union. Enough is enough.

9/10/2020 07:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I hate to ask a stupid question but isn't there a provision that forbids striking?

9/10/2020 07:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That's truly scary

9/10/2020 07:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No wondere Groot's acting smug. You guys should all quit and join a force in a jurisdiction that supports you.

9/10/2020 07:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only cure can be more Republicans voted in. But with the crooked ass board of elections, fat chance of that.

9/10/2020 07:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What other labor agreement would ever allow enforceable Provisions for the kind of things this law would undo?

These kind of things probably don't be along in a labor agreement anyway.

9/10/2020 07:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don’t forget to get your very own Carol Smmons yard sign. Typical democrat pos.

9/10/2020 07:54:00 AM  
Blogger Pete Pivo said...

anyone know the bill number so we can raise hell?

9/10/2020 07:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scc, have you heard what’s happening in 189? Maybe some here can verify if it’s actually true. Rumor is merit hack Mills is gunning for deputy And J brown nose is again begging for the commander spot. They asked the sgt, most who don’t have a clue what they are doing, to rank their officers. The sgt can keep top #1 the rest will go into a draft pool like the nfl. What merit hack came up with this shit? Think LT JT will speak up ? Nope, his two a$$ self going along with the shit show probably too busy planning the next bbq. I wonder if the cheater merit triple hack chief knows this is happening. Surely if he did, he would put a stop to it as it would completely kill any morale left. Citywide the coppers are dealing with stresses Of no days off, 12 hour days, taking a beating from media, from citizens, restaurants etc. The troops keep moving forward because that’s what they do. What’s not acceptable is they are now taking a beating from the inside from the incompetent merit hack bosses and the department. As a supervisor, right now is the tome to ensure that my troops are ok, that they eat, get a break here and there. I guess this is why I got passed over so many times but I’m ok with that. Anyone have that email from the Lt to verify this ?

9/10/2020 08:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And still you will have assholes voting Dem, unreal.

9/10/2020 08:06:00 AM  
Blogger othello said...

I will call Rep Fran Hurley and Bill Cunningham, today regarding this proposed legislation.

9/10/2020 08:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If we proposed putting actual murderers under these proposed rules, we'd be accused of all sorts of fascistic impulses and secret-police type shit. (ILLINOIS) DEMOCRATS propose this in Springfield with nary a peep from anyone in their ranks.
**************************************

These people are your neighbors. Madness has descended.

9/10/2020 08:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ammons Is a police hating piece of shit and her husband is a convicted drug dealer.

9/10/2020 08:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Democrats are coming after us!!! Remember this!!!

9/10/2020 08:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This will lead into a very complicated bucket of lawsuits as the “against public policy” defense that would be put forth by the government has historically produced varying outcomes. The US government itself has been ordered to pay billions of dollars to partnering contractors when they attempted circumvent contractual rights and use the “against public policy defense” but failed. It should be noted that the government could legislate such restrictions for future contracts and avoid many lawsuits, but for current contracts they are on a very slippery slope. Maybe it’s good that we haven’t had a new contract for three years.

9/10/2020 08:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone ask the Dem candidate for the NW Side state rep if she supports this?


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9/10/2020 08:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Judge taps special prosecutor to investigate Rep. Ammons for alleged retail theft

by: Mark Maxwell, Lyndsay Jones, Richard Flesch, Jennifer Jensen
Posted: Jan 24, 2020 / 04:17 PM CST / Updated: Jan 24, 2020 / 10:08 PM CST

URBANA, Ill. (NEXSTAR) — A court-appointed special prosecutor is investigating whether or not there is probable cause to charge state Representative Carol Ammons, a Democrat from Urbana, for allegedly stealing a purse from the Carle Auxiliary Resale Boutique on Friday, January 10th.

https://www.wcia.com/news/capitol-news/judge-taps-special-prosecutor-to-investigate-rep-ammons-for-alleged-retail-theft/

9/10/2020 08:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is the Bill number ? Your screen cap cut it off.

9/10/2020 08:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our Democrats are so dumb as to not know (or care) that polygraphs aren't even admissible in Illinois courts as evidence! HOWEVER, they ARE admissible to impeach testimony, and that's the other back door threat to officers testifying in Illinois civil and criminal trials.

¶ 142 Polygraph evidence is generally inadmissible in Illinois. People v. Baynes, 88 Ill. 2d 225, 240, 430 N.E.2d 1070, 1077 (1981). More specifically, Illinois has a firmly established rule against the introduction of the details of the results of polygraph examinations. People v. Lewis, 269 Ill. App. 3d 523, 527, 646 N.E.2d 305, 308 (1995). Polygraph evidence does not have sufficient reliability for admission, and if it is admitted, it is likely to be taken not merely as reliable, but as completely determinative of guilt or innocence. People v. Gard, 158 Ill. 2d 191, 201, 632 N.E.2d 1026, 1031 (1994).

¶ 144 However, prior inconsistent statements by a witness are generally admissible for impeachment purposes. People v. Johnson, 2012 IL App (1st) 091730, ¶ 68, 993 N.E.2d 1. In addition, a trial court is presumed to consider only admissible evidence and to consider any evidence introduced for a limited purpose for that purpose only. People v. Fletcher, 328 Ill. App. 3d 1062, 1075, 768 N.E.2d 72, 82-83 (2002) (concluding the trial court did not err by admitting evidence that defendant took a polygraph because court stated it would not consider polygraph evidence in reaching a determination of guilt). In Fletcher, the trial court permitted the State to present evidence that a polygraph test had been administered after the defendant challenged the circumstances surrounding his statements. Id. at 1074. The court stated it was considering the evidence for a limited purpose and that it did not know the results. Id. The appellate court affirmed, noting that "the trial judge assured all concerned that he would not consider polygraph evidence in reaching a judgment," and the record supported that conclusion. Id. at 1075.

(All citations from In Re T.R., 2019 IL App (4th) 190529, on Google Scholar for free)

9/10/2020 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous John said...

Good morning. Did you notice to filed that bill?

Carol Ammons. The woman who was caught shoplifting and $80 purse from a charity thrift store in Urbana earlier this year.

The results of the investigation were swept under the carpet. She's always worried about the rights of criminals over the rights of the law-abiding. But given her and her former felonious husband who got a pardon from Quinn in exchange for a big campaign donation it's to be expected. The apples don't fall far from the tree.

9/10/2020 08:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Welkomme to Socialist democrat party of Illinois. Commanded by Chancellor of the Illinois Reich, Her Pritzger.

9/10/2020 09:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If, "any provision in a collective bargaining agreement applicable to peace officers," (excluding wages and benefits) is unenforceable, does this remove the residency requirement?

9/10/2020 09:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
https://chambanasun.com/stories/529692979-rep-carol-ammons-under-investigation-for-alleged-charity-thrift-store-theft

9/10/2020 12:12:00 AM

Well that news story says it all about this elected official.

9/10/2020 09:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck then all!

9/10/2020 09:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck then all!

9/10/2020 09:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They love their criminals don’t they.
I don’t think the legislation will fly, maybe executive order or of course Home Rule. But just who introduced the Bill....

https://www.gunssavelife.com/stealing-from-a-charity-really-carol-special-prosecutor-appointed-in-state-rep-carol-ammons-alleged-retail-theft-case/

9/10/2020 09:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trump will win and this city will be a litle commie Island surrounded by red.
How long before they go after the Governotlr for profiting off od corona? Minus crook county even Illinois is republican. Democrats have become the scamming party. They really think business is gu oing to remain in Chicago? Democrats have been running Chicago for decades oppressing blacks.

Trump 2020

9/10/2020 09:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I’m no lawyer, but wouldn’t this be an ex post facto law?

No, that only applies to criminal laws with incarceration.

9/10/2020 09:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This can't be real, we are living in Bizzaro World. Are politicians signing off on this nonsense.

Bill in question: Title: Police-Barganing-Complaints. Illinois House Bill 5830. 8 Sep 20

Sponsor: Ill. State Rep. Carol Ammons (DEMOCRAT-103rd District - Champaign/Urbana)

Was a community organizer, elected to Champaign County Board, then Urbana City Council, when she left for State Rep., the Council filled her seat with her husband Aaron Ammons!!!!!!

Endorsed by: US Senator Bernie Sanders

Member of: Illinois Legislative Black Caucus

Some bills of hers: HR 0906. Urges United Nations to pass resolution denouncing and charging the United States with the crime of genocide against the black population.

HR 5823. Demilitarization of policing in Illinois.

HR 5826. Police non lethal policy act.

9/10/2020 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The continued war against the police. The myth is bigger than reality here. Vote R. Stop the bullshit

9/10/2020 09:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hopefully the Illinois FOP and all local lodges along with every other police organization stay on top of this and jump down the throats of any politicians that endorse this crap.

9/10/2020 09:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pandering to their criminal base.

9/10/2020 09:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is brutal.

9/10/2020 10:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WTF was going on in 016 last night. No officers to respond to in progress multiple burglaries and carjackings. 6 officers in roll call I’m told. Wagon was 99????? I live close to Harlem and Addison, pay high taxes, and would like to see a beat car here and there. Com’ on Commander and Alder-creatures bring in more officers immediately!!!!!!!!

9/10/2020 10:08:00 AM  
Blogger jblair said...

"Deletes provision that in the course of any interrogation no officer shall be required to submit to a polygraph test, any other test questioning by means of any chemical substance with officer's express written consent."

Test questioning by means of any chemical substance - sodium pentathal, etc.?

9/10/2020 10:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'd like to point out the commenter stating that no officer in the state has rights under their contract if this passes is correct. If you've got enough to retire, I'd recommend it. If you don't, I recommend looking for employment in a state that isn't looking to screw you immediately.

9/10/2020 10:11:00 AM  
Blogger Civilian CPD Devotee said...

William Barr was in Chicago yesterday and Groot and Brownie didn't have the decency to meet him. Obviously they don't want to admit their incompetence and Barr's success in apprehending criminals. They are both a total failure and an embarrassment.

9/10/2020 10:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I really and honestly want the bill to pass both houses and let the Governor sign it into law...Then I want the stupid mother-fuckers to need a police officer...too late asshole! And once this happens I want the liberal assholes who have watched as the left has destroyed the city, county, and state, to sit on their hands and continue allowing the left to win election after election...FUCK every last one of the assholes in this state who have ignored the corruption, fiscal irresponsibility and out & out stupidity of legislation they have enacted!

9/10/2020 10:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHY am I hearing about this through the blog and NOT through our FOP. I know we had at one time representatives down in Springfield watching for this type of legislation!!! FOP needs to get this bill stopped before any other bills are presented that would take away additional rights that we fight hard to have put into our CBA.

9/10/2020 10:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The FOP needs to fire Sullivan if this thing passes. Most useless lobbyists ever.

9/10/2020 10:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doesn't matter. Cook County will continue to vote democrat. See what happens?

9/10/2020 10:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you have your 20 and you are staying, there is something wrong with you... F this place

9/10/2020 10:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“I’ll make no statement without my lawyer. Oh and fuck you Ammons.”

9/10/2020 10:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The war on Police continues with these f'n democrats. Lord, please make them all victims of the so called oppressed felons. See if that'll change their narrow mind set.

9/10/2020 10:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gee, it's almost like Ms. Emmons and company have determined y'all are guilty or something.

9/10/2020 10:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Illinois is screwed and I’m outta of this garbage Socialist, Progressive State!

I totally regret living here most of my life, let alone becoming a Police Officer in Chicago!

Anyone trying to be a Police Officer in this State, would be better off leaving Illinois!

Pack up the family and head to Red State now!

9/10/2020 10:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Chicago FOP should immediately ask the ACLU for their opinion. Fun times.

9/10/2020 10:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You see the new JRE clip about Pekosie's hair? Rogan calls your mayor out for being a hypocrite too! Figured it would amuse you.

9/10/2020 10:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of course a criminal wants to set rules for the police. Chicago way.

9/10/2020 11:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SO police shooting reports will now say

I PLEAD the 5TH

9/10/2020 11:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I Believe going on strike has nothing to do with wages either

Neither does the BLUE FLU

IF only special ED was still around to save us.

Anybody been drinking with him or seen him around?

9/10/2020 11:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you think labor unions give a rip about this, think again. All unions in Chicagoland area are straight up commie supporters and they’re pushing hard for anything with a D after their name. It’s sad but true but I can sense the fear in their speeches though.

9/10/2020 11:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

"This can’t be serious."
- - - - - - - -

It's serious, alright. And while the bill itself is very serious, its implications go far beyond the edges of the paper. The bill partially reveals how a segment of the population actually thinks. It exists at all only because it represents a necessary token formality; an unfortunate technicality required to legally exert further control over people they don't like. These are people who would rather eliminate opponents like squashing a bug on the sidewalk. Instead of the legislative process, they'd much prefer to simply show up unannounced on your door step, stick a gun in your face and pull the trigger.

Police issues are merely early ripples on the water that precede the tidal wave of totalitarianism that could result. Legislation like this is the canary in the coal mine. An early indicator of a major problem, thanks to the dumbing down of our society.

Not saying that Republicans are angels. But they're what's needed at this time in history to hopefully get the nation back on track in both Congress and the Judicial branches.

Vote. And make sure your friends do, too.

9/10/2020 11:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Senator Patricia Van Pelt ran an illegal pyramid scheme. She got off and was protected by Madigan, Cullerton, Scott waguespack when he was head of the progressive caucus, the entire black caucus and most disgusting of all her investigation by the legislative inspector general Julie Porter. Sophia King supported her as did Kim Foxx.

9/10/2020 11:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've been done doing police work for quite a while now, but boy they really do hate us, don't they???
Where is the FOP on this???

9/10/2020 11:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is despicable. I hope that if this passes you all walk off the job the next second and leave the assshole voters of Illinois to rot. They deserve it for being asleep at the wheel for this long and letting these treasonous mouthbreathers take over.

That being said, what do you think the long game plan is here? The Dems are villifying the police and seek to destroy you, there's no doubt in my mind about that. The question is, why? Here's one scenario I wonder about: they put cops on the ropes, get you into a situation where you are afraid your pensions are toast and where public support is not on your side. They now have you where they want you, vulnerable. Then they give you an order to do something horrible like help confiscate guns. If you don't, then goodbye pension. How many cops would comply, if not complying meant losing the retirement and benefits they've worked for? Do they intend, in other words, to bully you into a corner and try to force your participation in something you find abhorrent?

I don't mean any insult by asking, it's an honest question. I know that in a normal situation most cops wouldn't dream of complying with an order like that, but desperate times make for desperate people. I am really trying to figure out why exactly Dems are doing this, it makes no sense to me to alienate and eliminate the only force standing between them and the howling mobs. They obviously have a reason, just what is it? I'd love to hear what you think.

9/10/2020 11:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Lou said...

State Rep. Carol Ammons (D-Urbana) may face charges of retail theft in connection with a Jan. 10 incident at a charity thrift store..

Champaign County Court Judge Tom Difanis in January appointed a special prosecutor to investigate whether Ammons should be prosecuted for allegedly stealing a Coach purse worth approximately $80 from an Urbana resale boutique.

9/10/2020 12:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They will push it through. It’s over ladies and gents. Job actions render you defenseless without union protections. Well, guess what?! They’re doing away with the protections anyways, so I think it’s time, don’t you?! Give them a police department which acts like the fire department, which mind you, will still have THEIR protections.....only leave the station for a call. And if you have to be on your beat, only leave your well hidden hole to go on a call. Follow every traffic device, every law on the way there. Our new motto will be, “When you need us in seconds, we’re minutes away.”

Let’s let them feel it. Advertise ahead of time when D-Day will be, and on that day starting at 0000 hours-2359 hours, give them what they are asking for. And a secondary motto, “Be careful what you wish for.”

9/10/2020 12:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The job is over as you know it. Discipline will be fast & furious by COPA, who for all intent and purposes will be your boss. If this passes and becomes law then we are left with no option; strike. Forget about the oath and your "wanting to help people". Read it carefully, ALL provisions other than wages are unenforceable. This includes comp time, medical policy, furlough & watch selection, everything. It does not end with disciplinary rules, it includes everything else. If you have the time, resign. God Bless and help us all.

9/10/2020 12:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

S T A Y F E T A L !!! Remove residency rule. The State, City and Dept want you too just be scare crow police. Give them what they want. Not worth your pension, freedom, and your family's well being. If you join a "team", you are the problem of this dept. No solidarity and selfishness.

9/10/2020 12:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

keep working fools!

9/10/2020 12:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This information should be pushed through by your loud mouthed FOP president. Get it into every hand of every single po, active and retired. If you all don’t make a stand and stick together, you are doomed to be under the thumbs of idiots for years to come. Every day you go out and do a job that you swore an oath to. None of the current politicians give a rats patootie about that, your family, nor your safety. Stay strong, and band together...the city thinks you all won’t do any action. Please make liars out of them and now protect yourselves and your futures. I BACK THE BLUE!!!

9/10/2020 12:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

civil war coming,prepare boys and girls!

9/10/2020 12:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was waiting for this bullshit!!! These cocksuckers!

When I was new we had a watch commander that would stand up to these assholes and their bullshit complaints. he had a great process to field beefs. On the phone he would listen to them and the majority were satisfied. for those that wanted to push the issue he'd tell them to come in. then he would sit down with them, listen to them some more and then give them the affidavit. when they asked what that was for he'd say, "that's so if we find that the complainant (which is you in this case) lied and/or misrepresented the facts we proceed with formal criminal charges...which is a felony." 9 out of 10 jag offs would say that they needed to think some more about it and left...never to come back. Damn he was a good boss!!!

Well you can kiss that good bye. now every tooth-fairy scumbag can beef one of us and get away with it.

Point #2: the fuckers have written into law that parts of our contract are null and void? falls under the old "management rights" bullshit I guess.

either way...FUCK OFF you worthless assholes.

My predictions: obviously complaints are going to skyrocket (poor overworked COPA I feel for you) and, mark my words, we ain't gonna see large annual pay increases for a very long time.

next time you see a state trooper ask them about the way the legislators drive. I've heard stories of these assholes doing over a hundred on the expressways and tollways and getting out of the tickets....BROTHER'S AND SISTERS now is the time to enforce the law by the book. that goes for everything...from parkers to DUIs to domestics whatever the case may be. Aldercreatures included

9/10/2020 01:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just re-read this fucking thing again

It keeps getting worse and worse each time I read it

WOW this fucking job has changed so much in the last 25 years

Let's read some more about this criminal cocksucker old man of AMMONS:
https://www.wandtv.com/news/champaign-co-clerk-reprimanded-for-illegally-counting-early-ballots/article_9e406dd0-6f50-11ea-b012-037ce239591e.html

AN EVEN BETTER ONE:
https://www.news-gazette.com/news/pardon-gives-ammons-window-of-hope/article_79ca71cd-8c8b-5836-bc7e-bfb4bcadf573.html

the asshole failure of a governor and staunch liberal Pat Quinn pardoned this fucking piece of shit "QUIETLY" just before his bitch wife was sworn in. Yeah, I'm sure there was no quid pro quo involved in that. where's the IG for shit like that...oh, I forgot..the state IGs are all staffed by political hacks. think I don't know what I'm talking about? look up the Office of Executive Inspector General and see who runs it...then look up the Illinois Tollway IG and see who runs that...A husband and wife team. coincidence? I think not

9/10/2020 01:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

when ya think it cant get any worse; WTF

9/10/2020 01:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Carol Ammons and her felonious fraud of a husband have been running rampant all over local and state politics for years. I am a retired LEO from an agency in Champaign Co. that did not even require a sworn affidavit for a complaint in the first place so this part is really no huge shocker. But the other parts are just incredible. I hope this does not gain traction. Stay safe out there brothers.

9/10/2020 01:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I find it pretty strange that the only union on the democratic attack radar are the police unions. All unions do the same thing, protect the interest of their members. But, no mention of any changes to the democratic policy toward other unions. Let police officers strike and end any residency requirements for starters. I would like to see these outrageous changes made to the teacher's unions and to SEIU for starters.

9/10/2020 01:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I recall the days when police officers in Chicago were prohibited by regulation and rules from taking the 5th Amendment in any investigation. That finally was tossed out by the federal courts. If these liberal pieces of crap get this bill passed, then it is time to say nothing until your lawyer arrives. The liberal wants the authority to fire police officers immediately for any misconduct, i.e. no hearing, no officer defense statements. This has happened recently in Minneapolis and Atlanta and believe me that the mayor wants this power.

9/10/2020 02:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a lawyer and former Illinois cop. It is not an ex-post facto law. I cannot give legal advice to anyone who is not a client or seeking legal advice.... But if it was my relative (that I liked) and I represented them I would give the same advice I gave to my children....... as they were growing up. NEVER TALK TO THE COPS..... YOU will NEVER CONVINCE THEM OF YOUR INNOCENCE AND THEY WILL USE WHAT YOU SAY AGAINST YOU. POLITELY SAY SIR OR MAAM May I please talk to a lawyer before continuing? I shot a murderer who shot at me first when I went to arrest him. ISP took my service weapon and read me my rights. I asked for a lawyer.

9/10/2020 02:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does that last provision about polygraphs also permit chemically enhanced interrogation? Truth serum? And the language above that seems to make it all admissible.
Stop this now. Where Chicago leads, others follow, and this is no place we want the nation to go.
John in Indy

9/10/2020 02:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's what Walker did to everyone on the public payroll EXCEPT first responders in Wisconsin. Stripped everything from negotiations but pay back in 2011 with Act 10. Act 10 also messed with pensions and health insurance.

9/10/2020 02:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In his pardon papers submitted to the Prisoner Review Board, Aaron Ammon’s sought the reinstatement of his right to possess firearms. That’s funny. I thought democrats were against guns.

As a betting man I’d put next check on it that this jagoff had his FOID paperwork pushed thru quickly.

They’re only against things when it doesn’t affect them and/or their agenda. Just ask beetlejuice

9/10/2020 03:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don’t know what the age is to get on now, but can you imagine being in your 20’s or early 30’s and this is your intro to The CPD? Burned out, suicidal thoughts(Holidays are coming)bosses & City that simply doesn’t give a fuck about you much less the citizen.
My first two years I made base $32,500 roughly and those POs that were shot on the west side a couple weeks ago were making jack shit to have a cap busted in them.
Not right

9/10/2020 03:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lochner v. New York was overtunrned...

9/10/2020 03:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why are any of you still there?

9/10/2020 03:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

"They are already talking about filling up empty school buildings
with the homeless, (another name for CPS graduate) They intend to
salt the earth with this caustic product."

9/10/2020 06:38:00 AM

They can salt away...
It ain't like Chicago shit-mud is fit for
planting/plowing/producing anything good.

But for the decency of the few,
the dead would be laid out where
they fell, crying for decent burial.

Chicago is an awful, brutal, evil and hateful place...

The Police are not THE problem as
some have lead you to believe.

9/10/2020 04:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: was just thinking about these professional sport teams and how any cop that wears the shirts, goes to the games, watches them on tv are just complete traitors. They are all against us, vocally supporting anti police movements. None of them speak up to support us. F every last one of them.

9/10/2020 04:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A remotely fuctional media would report on this.

That they do not underscores their virulent hatred for LE.

Next time there's a ruckus and the media wants to hide behind police lines, leave. Let them be with their beloved comrades.

9/10/2020 04:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

She's still mad about getting busted for boosting a Coach purse

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAy7EJEyres

Thief.

9/10/2020 04:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is disgusting. This has Kuame and Larry s name written all over it.

9/10/2020 04:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Her husband, the county clerk, will be sure that ALL votes get counted fairly /s

https://www.champaigncountyclerk.com/

9/10/2020 04:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Goes to show, what the dumb fucks in state elect!

9/10/2020 05:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Portland mayor bans cops from using tear gas

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/portland-mayor-bans-cops-tear-gas-protests-72931763

Any questions as to which side D-politicians are on?

9/10/2020 05:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT...check out Bryson Gray’s Back The Blue. Great song, great artist. Let’s support these people who are supporting us!

9/10/2020 05:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BOHICA!!

9/10/2020 05:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember, if you vote Democrat you cut your own throat.....

9/10/2020 05:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I must be missing something. Garrity was a USSC case. Why do the idiots in Sprinfield think they can overturn that and permit a statement taken from an officer under duress and make it admissible in a criminal proceeding?

9/10/2020 05:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You will never touch the CTU because they have option to strike. No one liberal or conservative wants he children out of school for any length of time cute CTU us s this year o their advantage extremely well. Eat your hearts out. Your union has failed you totally for years and years. Maybe time to decertify and go in another direction. The mayor is beating you like a dirty rug at every turn.

9/10/2020 05:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder if full-scale investigations will be conducted against legislators based on anonymous complaints??

9/10/2020 05:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Time to retire people, can't wait to retire fast enough!!!!

9/10/2020 05:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Once the Commies get their thugs in to replace us, they will reverse all these rules.

9/10/2020 06:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

WTF was going on in 016 last night. No officers to respond to in progress multiple burglaries and carjackings. 6 officers in roll call I’m told. Wagon was 99????? I live close to Harlem and Addison, pay high taxes, and would like to see a beat car here and there. Com’ on Commander and Alder-creatures bring in more officers immediately!!!!!!!!
----------------------------------->

That's your defunded reality.

9/10/2020 06:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A remotely fuctional media would report on this.

9/10/2020 04:47:00 PM

All the more reason to shut down twitter and bring back carrier pigeons.

9/10/2020 06:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scc, have you heard what’s happening in 189? Maybe some here can verify if it’s actually true. Rumor is merit hack Mills is gunning for deputy And J brown nose is again begging for the commander spot. They asked the sgt, most who don’t have a clue what they are doing, to rank their officers. The sgt can keep top #1 the rest will go into a draft pool like the nfl. What merit hack came up with this shit? Think LT JT will speak up ? Nope, his two a$$ self going along with the shit show probably too busy planning the next bbq. I wonder if the cheater merit triple hack chief knows this is happening. Surely if he did, he would put a stop to it as it would completely kill any morale left. Citywide the coppers are dealing with stresses Of no days off, 12 hour days, taking a beating from media, from citizens, restaurants etc. The troops keep moving forward because that’s what they do. What’s not acceptable is they are now taking a beating from the inside from the incompetent merit hack bosses and the department. As a supervisor, right now is the tome to ensure that my troops are ok, that they eat, get a break here and there. I guess this is why I got passed over so many times but I’m ok with that. Anyone have that email from the Lt to verify this ?

You are not the “troops” patrol coppers are the troops. You are a clout baby and gave up the right to bitch and moan unless you’re in patrol. No one is forcing you to stay at 189. Whatever the f- that number means. You ASKED TO BE THERE.

9/10/2020 06:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ammons is a rotten commie, and this POS legislation is unconstitutional

9/10/2020 07:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can waterboarding be far off?

9/10/2020 07:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

UPDATE: 10 SEP. 20 @ 1938HRS.
Just saw Brownie & his entourage in the H Concorse, American airlines. Leaving town 4 unk.location.

9/10/2020 07:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did the entire FOP quit?? SCC can you post helping to call them out regularly on where the hell they are the last month or two? They won't return emails or calls anymore it seems.

9/10/2020 07:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1) When I was new we had a watch commander that would stand up to these assholes and their bullshit complaints. he had a great process to field beefs.

2) poor overworked COPA I feel for you)

9/10/2020 01:01:00 PM

God bless your back-in-day watch commander. He, and some others, were the type of leaders that made you proud to be a member of their watch.

But do not feel pity for COPA. COPA is filled with scum and vermin. In totality, COPA can take a flying leap off the top of the 875 N. Michigan building. That agency is rotten to the core and from top to bottom. They can all go to hell. They salivate at the idea of jamming it to a police officer.

9/10/2020 08:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Obama's just signed a multi-million dollar deal with Netflix. Susan Rice is on the board and they are deadly silent about the child porn video Cuties. Hey, if we’re going to protect Barack Obama and Susan Rice, what we’re supposed to say is that Cuties is a damning indictment of the sexualization of children. Expect more of this when Kamela becomes President, I mean Biden.

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2020/09/10/obamas-netflix-board-member-susan-rice-silent-amid-cuties-firestorm/

9/10/2020 08:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Officers, you need to get your union on this ASAP and put all the pressure on your lawmakers to block this. This legislation is unbelievable.

9/10/2020 09:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Scc, have you heard what’s happening in 189? . . ."


Bid to 011 you pompous, portentous, piece of pile.

9/10/2020 09:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Did the entire FOP quit?? SCC can you post helping to call them out regularly on where the hell they are the last month or two? They won't return emails or calls anymore it seems.

9/10/2020 07:58:00 PM


What did you call them about?

9/10/2020 09:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Scc, have you heard what’s happening in 189? Maybe some here can verify if it’s actually true. Rumor is merit hack Mills is gunning for deputy And J brown nose is again begging for the commander spot. They asked the sgt, most who don’t have a clue what they are doing, to rank their officers. The sgt can keep top #1 the rest will go into a draft pool like the nfl. What merit hack came up with this shit? Think LT JT will speak up ? Nope, his two a$$ self going along with the shit show probably too busy planning the next bbq. I wonder if the cheater merit triple hack chief knows this is happening. Surely if he did, he would put a stop to it as it would completely kill any morale left. Citywide the coppers are dealing with stresses Of no days off, 12 hour days, taking a beating from media, from citizens, restaurants etc. The troops keep moving forward because that’s what they do. What’s not acceptable is they are now taking a beating from the inside from the incompetent merit hack bosses and the department. As a supervisor, right now is the tome to ensure that my troops are ok, that they eat, get a break here and there. I guess this is why I got passed over so many times but I’m ok with that. Anyone have that email from the Lt to verify this ?



You must be new to OCD kid, this has been going on for years in that unit. Every time there is a new regime in OCD there will be house cleaning. They will be auditing how many buys an officer has made, how many CI's you have signed up, and how many times you have been the affiant on a search warrant. That means all the whites guys that grow crazy beards and tell their family and friends they are an undercover officer when in fact they only work enforcement will be going back to a district. Then the people with clout will be making their phone calls to remain safe and all the people who's phone call has retired are in trouble too (depends how low their juice have been retired). You sound like a guy who should be ready to get dumped to a ghetto district unless you were detailed to 189��

9/10/2020 09:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Scc, have you heard what’s happening in 189? Maybe some here can verify if it’s actually true. Rumor is merit hack Mills is gunning for deputy And J brown nose is again begging for the commander spot. They asked the sgt, most who don’t have a clue what they are doing, to rank their officers. The sgt can keep top #1 the rest will go into a draft pool like the nfl. What merit hack came up with this shit? Think LT JT will speak up ? Nope, his two a$$ self going along with the shit show probably too busy planning the next bbq. I wonder if the cheater merit triple hack chief knows this is happening. Surely if he did, he would put a stop to it as it would completely kill any morale left. Citywide the coppers are dealing with stresses Of no days off, 12 hour days, taking a beating from media, from citizens, restaurants etc. The troops keep moving forward because that’s what they do. What’s not acceptable is they are now taking a beating from the inside from the incompetent merit hack bosses and the department. As a supervisor, right now is the tome to ensure that my troops are ok, that they eat, get a break here and there. I guess this is why I got passed over so many times but I’m ok with that. Anyone have that email from the Lt to verify this ?

You are not the “troops” patrol coppers are the troops. You are a clout baby and gave up the right to bitch and moan unless you’re in patrol. No one is forcing you to stay at 189. Whatever the f- that number means. You ASKED TO BE THERE.

9/10/2020 06:41:00 PM

I second that. Go cry to someone else big baby. You have been scamming time for years doing your one rock busts. No one cares.

9/10/2020 10:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Check out her college degree. Joliet junior college and Walsingham University. Business administration. Walsingham is in London and is not listed as a body of higher learning by the British government. She got her degree online. So this moron had to find a school all the way in London that would actually pass her and it’s not even an accredited school. How do people vote for these idiots, frauds, and liars.

9/10/2020 10:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
UPDATE: 10 SEP. 20 @ 1938HRS.
Just saw Brownie & his entourage in the H Concorse, American airlines. Leaving town 4 unk.location.

9/10/2020 07:40:00 PM

Well, I won't be flying American Airlines again. They're supporting a terrorist group.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/american-airlines-crew-black-lives-matter-pins/

9/10/2020 10:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So...the provision against striking or advocating a job action does NOT pertain to wages or benefits!!!! Especially if that job action entails shutting down city hall!!!

9/10/2020 11:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ammons is in fact the most vocal Police hater in the Illinois General Assembly and she is recognized as such by her peers. Fortunately when opposed, the leadership rarely lets these types of bill see the light of day. Ammons is a failure in her job. Look at the list of 40 bills she has presented this session and you will see nothing of substance has passed.
Resolutions are much easier to pass and her "Preserve the African American Family (HR695) went nowhere. Step back from the cutlery folks and make sure your FOP reps do their jobs.

9/10/2020 11:19:00 PM  
Blogger Gsquared said...

WTF. This state is spiraling downward and into the shitter. I wish there was more we could do to stop this. But with a corrupt media and sheeple as citizens, it doesn't bode well for any one of us.

9/10/2020 11:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

next time you see a state trooper ask them about the way the legislators drive. I've heard stories of these assholes doing over a hundred on the expressways and tollways and getting out of the tickets....BROTHER'S AND SISTERS now is the time to enforce the law by the book. that goes for everything...from parkers to DUIs to domestics whatever the case may be. Aldercreatures included

9/10/2020 01:01:00 PM
When he held whatever state level office he had 0bama always left Chicago late and drove like a bat out of Hell to get to Springfield. He determined that the reason he kept getting pulled over wasn't because he was speeding and driving recklessly. No, the real reason was, you guessed it, racism. Those narrow minded cops just couldn't believe a black man could be driving a nice car so he was repeatedly pulled over for DWB, driving while black.

If he wasn't an overgrown child he would have realized he was getting pulled over because he wasn't just speeding but was one of if not the fastest cars on the interstate. Someone capable of the tiniest bit of self reflection would have set their alarm clock to go off sooner and would have started leaving his house sooner. Not Barack. Being black means never having to say your sorry, wrong, or admitting your selfishness is putting others in danger.

Nevermind the fact that I doubt the police could tell anything about the driver as he flew by. Anyway once that spoiled child was handed control of the US for 8 years it didn't take long for him to try to get revenge on all police for his "unfair treatment" back in IL.

9/10/2020 11:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its hb5830

9/10/2020 11:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A) Vote for O'Brien and fire Kim Foxx

B) Do nothing but answer your radio assignments.

C) Vote for Donald John Trump and KAGA

D) Dox that bitch Mike Madigan - make his life so miserable that he'll welcome a federal prison cell

E) Do the same to his "daughter", former AG of Illinois who NEVER found any corruption in the Illinois legislature, but every Christmas, came out with a list of toys that you shouldn't buy for your kids because they were dangerous.

F) Remember that #Black Lies Matter

9/10/2020 11:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another elected Member of BLM

9/11/2020 07:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lochner v. New York was overtunrned...

That was in regard to the amount of hours which may be worked in a day or week.

9/11/2020 07:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bill Status of HB5814 101st General Assembly

Short Description: POLICE TRAINING-LICENSING

House Sponsors
Rep. Lamont J. Robinson, Jr. - Kambium Buckner

Last Action
Date Chamber Action
7/15/2020 House Filed with the Clerk by Rep. Lamont J. Robinson, Jr.

Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
5 ILCS 815/10
20 ILCS 2605/2605-5
20 ILCS 2605/2605-53.5 new
20 ILCS 2605/2605-54
20 ILCS 2605/2605-85
20 ILCS 2605/2605-90
20 ILCS 2605/2605-96
20 ILCS 2605/2605-97
20 ILCS 2605/2605-98
20 ILCS 2605/2605-375 was 20 ILCS 2605/55a in part
20 ILCS 2610/8 from Ch. 121, par. 307.8
20 ILCS 2610/40
20 ILCS 2610/45
50 ILCS 705/2 from Ch. 85, par. 502
50 ILCS 705/3 from Ch. 85, par. 503
50 ILCS 705/6 from Ch. 85, par. 506
50 ILCS 705/6.1
50 ILCS 705/6.3 new
50 ILCS 705/8.1 from Ch. 85, par. 508.1
50 ILCS 705/8.2
745 ILCS 10/1-103 new


Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Department of State Police Law of the Civil Administrative Code of Illinois. Provides that the provisions of the Illinois Police Training Act are applicable to the training, certification, licensing, decertification, and revocation of licenses of State Police officers. Amends the Illinois Police Training Act. Adds 6 public members and 6 retired police officers, appointed by the Governor, to the Illinois Law Enforcement Training Standards Board. Requires full-time and part-time police officers to be licensed rather than certified. Provides that the Illinois Law Enforcement Training Standards Board has the power to require local governmental units to furnish personnel rosters, employment status reports, and annual training plans to the Board. Provides that the revocation of a license or certification of a police officer is permanent. Provides that the Board shall, by rule, provide for the decertification or revocation of a license of a police officer who commits non-criminal misconduct that results in disciplinary action against the police officer. Provides that the types of misconduct that are grounds for decertification or revocation of a police officer's license shall be determined by the Board by rule. Establishes hearing procedures on decertification. Provides that the provisions are operative no later than one year after the Act's effective date. Amends the Local Governmental and Governmental Employees Tort Immunity Act. Provides that notwithstanding any other provision of law to the contrary, the Act does not apply to a peace officer as defined in the Criminal Code of 2012. Contains other provisions. Amends various other Acts to make conforming changes. Effective immediately.

Actions
Date Chamber Action
7/15/2020 House Filed with the Clerk by Rep. Lamont J. Robinson, Jr.
7/15/2020 House Chief Co-Sponsor Rep. Kambium Buckner

9/11/2020 08:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bill Status of HB5802 101st General Assembly
Full Text Votes Witness Slips View All Actions Printer-Friendly Version

Short Description: MUNI-DEFUND POLICE DEPARTMENT

House Sponsors
Rep. Anthony DeLuca

Last Action
Date Chamber Action
6/12/2020 House Filed with the Clerk by Rep. Anthony DeLuca

Statutes Amended In Order of Appearance
65 ILCS 5/11-1-1.5 new


Synopsis As Introduced
Amends the Illinois Municipal Code. Provides that if the corporate authorities of a municipality wish to consider defunding the municipal police department through revising or eliminating its current budget or appropriation ordinance, stopping appropriations in current or future budgets, or ending or significantly reducing a tax or taxes that support the police department, the corporate authorities of the municipality must conduct no less than 2 public hearings prior to taking any such formal action, the sole purpose of which shall be to discuss the decision to defund the police department and to receive input from the community. Includes notice requirements. Excludes municipalities that have contracted for police protection through another unit of local government or other law enforcement agency. Limits home rule powers. Effective immediately.

Actions
Date Chamber Action
6/12/2020 House Filed with the Clerk by Rep. Anthony DeLuca

9/11/2020 08:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
https://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/courts-police-fire/special-prosecutor-to-review-allegations-against-urbana-legislator/article_c9f37c40-4924-528f-a2fa-d54a633854c7.html

State Rep Carrol Ammoms, who proposed this legislation, appears to be a shoplifter.

9/10/2020 07:29:00 AM


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Yes she does but that story is 9 months old whatever happened with that? A google search yields nothing but old stories. Was it buried?

9/11/2020 10:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

John said...
Good morning. Did you notice to filed that bill?

Carol Ammons. The woman who was caught shoplifting and $80 purse from a charity thrift store in Urbana earlier this year.

The results of the investigation were swept under the carpet. She's always worried about the rights of criminals over the rights of the law-abiding. But given her and her former felonious husband who got a pardon from Quinn in exchange for a big campaign donation it's to be expected. The apples don't fall far from the tree.

9/10/2020 08:56:00 AM




Would these reports be accessible via a Freedom of Information Act request?

9/11/2020 11:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the right to contract has been deemed a constitutional right.

Sorry Carol.

9/11/2020 11:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tommie is a do nothing piece of shit coward. He is the king of dog and pony shows. I ran into the prick awhile ago and listened as he was kissing up to another boss about how they’re up on four wires and balls deep into a kingpin. The only thing that’s balls deep is your connect in you. Who’s the kingpin Tommie? Some high school kid selling dimebags of weed near UIC? Man I wish tommie had the stones to post on here and engage in a conversation with me. But then again he probably doesn’t like doing that now since he probably learned his lesson about sending emails and texts after the lawsuit. Someone posted above about beefs. Ask tommie how he handles beefs better yet ask the guys that got jammed up. Maybe I should say how he encourages beefs be filed. If he gets another promotion that will be just what we need another yes man fucking over his people. But I honestly don’t think it will happen. At least not if you take a cue from tommie himself. He’s already floating his resume in the private sector looking for post retirement employment. Hey, I vaguely remember a PO getting written up for printing personal docs at a distinct. Hmmm is homan exempt from the same rules?

9/11/2020 11:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
The Obama's just signed a multi-million dollar deal with Netflix. Susan Rice is on the board and they are deadly silent about the child porn video Cuties. Hey, if we’re going to protect Barack Obama and Susan Rice, what we’re supposed to say is that Cuties is a damning indictment of the sexualization of children. Expect more of this when Kamela becomes President, I mean Biden.

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2020/09/10/obamas-netflix-board-member-susan-rice-silent-amid-cuties-firestorm/


9/10/2020 08:59:00 PM"

There's a reason why the radical left is attempting to normalize sex with children and reduce the age of consent. There are a lot of individuals within government, media, and entertainment industry who are kiddie diddlers.

Connect the dots as to one of the reasons why they've been trying to remove President Trump from office.

If you don't know what President Trumps Executive Order from December 2017 is about, ask yourself why?

Becoming informed is YOUR responsibility.

9/11/2020 12:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
I don't get her endgame, more dead 8 year olds, more car jacking. She, as a well educated person should know that dude will always be dude.

9/10/2020 07:02:00 AM"

If you can't figure out her endgame you are soft as puppy shit. Please tell me you're not a police officer?

9/11/2020 12:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow...I'd absolutely love to be the guy that stops these pieces of shit for speeding. I already know how it would go.

as I get to the window the jagoff will have his wallet opened displaying a star (probably gold).

Me: "good afternoon sir may I see your driver's license and proof of insurance?"
jagoff: "why you stopping me?"
me: " Because you were speeding"
jagoff: "Do you know who I am?"
me: "not really that's why I need to see your driver's license."
jagoff: "I'm the Champaign County Clerk"
me: "OK, but I need to see your driver's license so I can put your actual name on the citation."
jagoff: "you gonna write me a ticket for going 5 over?"
me: "Well I was going to write it for going 2 over, but since you admitted to 5 I'll go with that. is the address correct on your license?"
jagoff: "Yea"
me: "stay in your car I'll be back"

got an alternate if she's in the car
her: "this is some bullshit. I'm a illinois motherfuckin state representative."
me: "ok...so your familiar with the illinois vehicle code"

I'd give it about 15 mins after the stop before my phone rings and a sergeant asking me what happened on the stop. I'll simply say, how about we watch the video and you can get the real story.

once I get from him the bullshit story the assholes made up (which will contradict the real story seen on video) I will promptly come back here to share the glorious story. something tells me the video would be shared with responsible illinois media thru a FOIA request.

9/11/2020 03:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Her husband is great for pulling the race card out of every deck. At the County fair last year he refused to pay the 5.00 admission fee cuz he is or was "special" He really is a POS.

9/12/2020 06:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Proposed by a former "community organizer" endorsed by "Bernie Sanders" mother of 3 children no listed spouse, no educational background with listed degree of higher education, "we are going to end cash bail in Illinois". Shoot and sign will be the new bond.

9/12/2020 08:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the right to contract has been deemed a constitutional right.

Sorry Carol.

9/11/2020 11:02:00 AM

? que bueno ? Explain please

9/13/2020 01:05:00 AM  

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