Sun Times Panders
Of course, when has the Sun Times NOT pandered? This is just par for the course and we haven't had an opportunity to slap the media around in a while, so let's see if we've lost a step. Here's a political hit piece disguised as an "editorial" that appeared 05 July:
Oooo....scary headline! A lie, a false premise, and a completely unprovable conclusion. Way to begin!
- Chicago Police officers have stopped Austin resident Jacquez Beasley at least 12 times since he got his driver’s license three years ago. He’s been ordered out of his car, frisked and had his vehicle searched. Yet officers have never issued the Chicago Park District employee a traffic citation, arrested him or seized any contraband.
Did he commit a traffic violation? Did he commit an arrestable offense? Did he have any contraband? No idea!
- Police have pulled over South Lawndale resident José Manuel Almanza Jr., a U.S. Marine Corps veteran who works for a West Side racial justice organization, more than 12 times since 2021. As with Beasley, police have never ticketed Almanza, arrested him or seized any guns or drugs from his car.
Same three questions
- South Shore resident Mahari Bell, a marketing consultant and part-time driver for UberEats and DoorDash, has been subject to at least 10 traffic stops. He’s been ordered out of his car, handcuffed and had his vehicle searched — but has never been ticketed, arrested or had contraband seized.
Same three questions
- What’s going on here can’t be written off as just unfortunate coincidence, according to a lawsuit filed in federal court last week against the city and the Chicago Police Department, by the American Civil Liberties Union of Illinois. Seems a lot like the new stop and frisk, and it’s doing little or nothing to stop crime.
One more question Slum Times - were the stops recorded on in-car and body cam video?
:::crickets:::
Of course they were! Not recording is a suspend-able offense. Not recording with intent is a felony - Class 3 - and will result in the officer losing his job and going to prison. And to drive that point home a bit more, WOL's (watch commanders) are required to view these videos on a daily basis, note infractions and take corrective/disciplinary action. Failure to do so results in them being suspended, usually starting at three days and moving upwards.
Almost no one is not recording stops any more and those that aren't are being tagged for three, five, seven, even thirty days off. IAD and COPA are bragging about suspension days being handed out. If there aren't any separations already, there will be because it's been the law of the Department, City and State for a few years now.
The "editorial" continues:
- The 147-page lawsuit details a list of repeated, invasive traffic stops by police of Beasley, Almanza, Bell and two additional plaintiffs, all of whom are Black or Latino. The plaintiffs were pulled over for minor infractions like a burned-out tail light — or no infraction at all — and were forced to answer questions such as whether they had a firearms owner ID card or where they were going.
Um....so minor infractions aren't infractions anymore? We must have missed that one, because we've been seeing misdemeanor trespassers in Washington DC being held for over two years without trial and no one at the Slum Times seems to have an issue with that.
Um....no infraction? Again - cameras.
Um....forced to answer? Oh lord, if only! Ignorance of your Constitutional Rights and the voluntary surrender of same is not "forced to." You aren't required to tell anyone where you're going or what you're doing. Lefties and the media (but we repeat ourselves) write like this to mis-educate the citizenry to further their BS narrative.
- In some cases, the lawsuit maintains, the plaintiffs were ordered out of their vehicle while it was searched, then frisked and even handcuffed — yet none of these incidents resulted in even a traffic citation, much less an arrest or seizure of guns or drugs.
Again, as cited throughout our archives, Maryland v Wilson and Pennsylvania v Mimms. During a lawful stop, you can be ordered from the vehicle at any time for any reason and you cannot refuse. The Supreme Court said so. Stops aren't required to end in citations or arrests. Verbal and written warnings are completely legal and unless you brought illegal guns/drugs along for the ride, how are police supposed to find something that isn't there? Plant it? Again - CAMERAS.
Then we get to the heart of the lawsuit and the intent of the Slum Times:
- The ACLU analyzed more than 2.6 million traffic stops over six years, from 2016 through 2022, that showed Black drivers in Chicago are four to seven times more likely to be pulled over by police than whites, and Latino drivers are stopped twice as often.
Eek. So scary.
Four to seven times more likely....why? Are they attracting attention to themselves? Like speeding, rolling stop signs, blasting music? Are they driving like a$$holes, swerving in and out of traffic, turning illegally, littering and generally acting like the Rules of the Road don't apply to them? Maybe they don't have both plates and they aren't current in the computer and the rear one isn't lit.
Let's be nicer - are they driving a ghetto hooptie with a cracked windshield, missing hubcaps, hanging bumpers, missing gas tank door, cracked taillights, etc? And are they driving this rattle trap because, due to their economic conditions, this was the only running vehicle they could afford to get to and from work or school or even the gun range?
Because each and every reason listed above is enough to stop a car and check it out for a police officer. The police didn't make it so - the LEGISLATURE did. And then, the Legislature gave the power of enforcement to.....the police.
And then there's the elephant in room - where are these wrecks concentrated? What parts of Chicago? The poor parts? And those parts of Chicago are populated by....poor people? And poor people tend to trend....
You see where we're going? If you're working in certain Districts, where the population is 90% or greater of a certain demographic, it's damn near impossible to stop anyone NOT of that persuasion.
There's an easy solution of course. France pioneered it - No-Go Zones. you just don't send the police there and you don't enforce the laws the Legislature passed in those areas. Problem solved!
Of course, if you watch the news, France is currently experiencing riots unlike any seen in the past decade and in the not-to-distant-future, the army will be called in to "pacify" the banlieues (slums).
Which ironically, is what the media, lefties and democrats (repeating ourselves again) want.
The editorial goes on a little more, making less sense and we imagine some of you are bored with our wordiness. But you should read it anyway and take it to heart, especially if you're stuck on this job as we are for a bit. You have no real friends in the mainstream media and they are using you for a larger agenda. The ACLU is utilizing data YOU collected to make YOU less safe and less able to afford a middle-class lifestyle. Same with the Department and the City itself.
Side Note: Is Mope-rah still on the Slum Times editorial board? This whole thing sounds like the usual crap she spews from her over-entitled criminal-coddling Maywood-dwelling piehole.
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51 Comments:
No more pretex stops…you pull for it you write it. If you’re not willing to write it why are you stopping for it? Covers your ass in the long run.
If the population elects idiots to the legislature that don’t back the police tasked with enforcing the laws they write, fuck em. They’ll figure it out in a generation or two.
Look at the retired officer in Portsmouth, Va…the day he is found not guilty on a bullshit vol manslaughter charge from years ago the same CA office indicted him in another bullshit in custody death where a drug addict died. Insanity
Just a thought:
The new coppers come out of the academy and get sent to…..011, 015, 006, 007, etc.
They’re eager to do the job and are very active.
The coppers with time on get burnt out, slow down and bid out to…..016, 017, 020, etc.
Your young go-getters are working in the districts heavily populated by a minority population. It makes sense that the numbers of stops are higher there.
Totally agree, following the rules won’t get you pulled over but driving dirty will!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Kp_AiYxoylw&pp=ygUicmlkaW5nIGRpcnR5IHJpZGluIGRpcnR5IGNoYW1lbGVvbg%3D%3D
Barz and the entire CST team will have some splainin’ to do at the depositions. Word was 10 blue cards a day was the ticket home. Should have been writing fictitious name instead, because how do you justify 40 TS’s in 4 days and not a single mover. Hopefully the PO’s and bosses all turn on each other to save their own asses-dog eat dog. This will be fun to watch. Let’s go!
Still looks bad. Coppers not citing people and just bluecarding looks very much like they’re using the pretense of a traffic violation to enforce something else entirely such as weapons. What makes it worse for coppers is that if they do write a ticket dealing with the Daley center is hell on earth for traffic, parking, and getting your ticket dismissed anyway.
Just stop doing traffic stops unless you’re going to cite the driver. No more breaks. Cite every single driver. No blue cards. Who cares about sarg asking for activity. Just gets you messed up in another lawsuit. Hope you kids learn from this.
And I’m not saying any of you kids who did the stops did anything legally wrong, it just looks bad when there are almost zero citations compared to the amount of stops. And optics is the name of the police department now.
Only the dumbest sad sacks are making stops and searching cars for guns. For what? You’re not stopping crime. You’re only setting yourself up for problems. They voted Brandon into office bro. They are telling you what they want. No stops. No arrests of anyone. Don’t arrest unless the offender stayed on scene and nicely put his hands behind his back. Read the room. Or be sued into oblivion. Your choice.
After being on the job for 20 years I figured that the systems revolving around police profession is designed for failure and many of us have not figured it out, I finally did. See, the fact that these people have been pulled over multiple times for minor traffic violations and never been issued a citation would make me feel targeted especially being searched, cuffed, etc. I think any one of us would or am I wrong? Especially when you are a law abiding citizen but now skeptical of the police. And I know the whole purpose behind all those traffic stops, it's called "TSS CARDS" being ordered on high demand at the CST unit and how come I know this is because I was on CST for a period. They were demanding 10 BLUE CARDS/TSS CARDS for 3 hours of work and who wouldn't want to do it? Don't get me wrong, each stop I made had probable cause, but with the incentive if having a 3 hour work day I would even pull over my own grandmother. This is why officers become overzealous and do stupid things which lead to this end result. I take it that the writers at SCC have time on the job and have the old mentally of police work, but those days are over. It's not worth getting jammed up for the Department just to please/impress a STUPIDVISOR.
Let’s compare the number of officers working last night in 011 to that of 016. Without even looking, I’m going to estimate 011 had 30 officers working 3rd watch while 016 had around 8. Could one therefore deduce that nearly 4x the amount of officers working would generate more tickets?
It’s a shame to admit, but every time I ticketed an M/1 (and I only did so if the violation was egregious), I had to make sure I then ticketed at least 5 M/2’s. I never even considered ticketing an F/1. Never wanted to deal with the attitude.
Discretion went out the window with M/2’s. If I stopped you, you WERE getting a ticket. And btw, I worked in areas not frequented by 2’s, so it would be several months of looking the other way until I got my 5.
I just LOVE reading your narratives. Common sense laced with humor. Such intelligent thinkers/writers. If only the "journalists" could see the common sense in what you say and consider other perspectives. The pols/leadership too--but they are too invested in themselves.
You've done it again with a great posting and have reaffirmed exactly why you have been missed. It's refreshing to read something written by someone using common sense.
traffic stops??? whats that..lol
7/7/ 02:01:00 am
100% correct. No traffic stops, no stops at all, even when your right this shithole org will make you wrong and the bad guy. Its coming, stolen car chase, shooting dude and the city burns...and for what, an arrest on dude inc who will walk before your done with the paper. Wake the fuck up and the bossholes who want numbers can fuck off, they are only using you and will throw your ass under the bus in seconds
7/7 05:43:00am
You are an asshole. WTF are you ticketing M/2s and giving breaks to M/1s? You must be a troll< I hope your not the police.The important part is why are you stopping cars and writing tickets.
OMG!! Every post is like a breath of fresh air!!! And of course.....the comments from the loyal readers!!
They should stop cars with tinted windows. And stop these assholes who scrape the paint off of their license plates.
Chicago is lost . Get out while you can . Things will never improve .
They should stop cars with tinted windows. And stop these assholes who scrape the paint off of their license plates.
Missing hub caps and no gas tank door? Watch out, ima bout to add to dose stats🫵🏻
So, you stop them you tag them. End of story. Pretty soon the lose their license. Problem solved.
Stop telling us not to do traffic stops. How many more police and our family have to be car jacked and killed. Do your stops and know the law. That’s it. These old timers that don’t live here need to shut up. We have to live in this sh%t hole. It doesn’t make you boss look good, it’s doing our job and making this place safe. I grew up in Mt Greenwood. My kids go to school over here. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve left home to see something questionable. I can’t be everywhere. My wife is a CC, but do I really want her to have to use it? No. We need to get back to policing like it was when we were kids. You don’t need anything accept knowledge of the law. These are different times, but life changes. We adapt. 2 more coppers got car jacked last week by the way and our old superintendent had to stop one from getting his daughter and he’s 80 plus. Keep listening to these idiots.
#theatrical_policing
When I worked in 10 over 8 years ago the same nonsense was occurring, forcing us to stop people for no damn reason. There were two desk dollies (dudes) that
on their Fridays were put on the streets to bring in TSS CARDS, to my surprise those two idiots would write 40 to 50 card in one night. How do you justify such activity? Fack this department, you should only care about going home to your family every night, the 1st and the 16th.
Pigs get fat and hogs get slaughtered
moral of the story, if you stop them ticket them
Simple solution - you stop 'em you write 'em. Is that what the ACLU wants?
Somehow I don't think the Scum Times understands the rule of unintended consequences.
I am so happy the hard hitting blog is back!
What are these traffic stops you speak of ?
How many copies does the Sun-Times actually sell?
One or two copies are at the front counter in Walgreens for Days.
Who is paying the bills to keep the Sun-Times in business?
This is an extremely well written post that I forwarded to several friends and family. I am happy that you are back shedding light on things glossed over or not talked about elsewhere. Thank you
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They should stop cars with tinted windows. And stop these assholes who scrape the paint off of their license plates.
7/07/2023 09:33:00 AM
Look at many districts especially the 10th district lot coppers with pickup trucks with deep tinted windows wtf! Hmm maybe that is where they do the illegal kids in the vehicles? You touch a kid you deserve life in prison
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-police-oversight-agency-copy-invesitgation-alleged-sexual-misconduct-migrant-officers-police-station-10th-district/3182008/
Simple. Either do not stop anyone or Write the ticket.
Anonymous said...
7/7 05:43:00am
You are an asshole. WTF are you ticketing M/2s and giving breaks to M/1s? You must be a troll< I hope your not the police.The important part is why are you stopping cars and writing tickets.
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It seems as is the original poster was saying that self-protect mode is what’s most important now. You can also add foot and off-air vehicle pursuits to the list of things to avoid due to self-protection
So don’t have discretion write every single violation
How many copies does the Sun-Times actually sell?
One or two copies are at the front counter in Walgreens for Days.
Who is paying the bills to keep the Sun-Times in business?
7/07/2023 12:58:00 PM
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They are owned by Public Radio.
The Marxist left is funding them also.
Today's Marist topic is 010 coppers having sex with migrants.
FORGET the 500 allegations against Chicago Public school teachers.
Positive news. A jury find in favor of the officer and awards family nothing.
https://abc7chicago.com/police-shooting-chicago-south-shore-harith-augustus/13475169/
So they gave them a break by not writing the probable cause stop and the aclu is complaining?
Next time just write them, and then the aclu can pound sand.
The country needs to collapse under the Democratic Party nonsense already.
Read the War on Cops by Heather MacDonald.
Yes, people of color have more interactions with the Police.
There is a reason why, this book puts into perspective.
Only you can prevent racism!
Only the dumbest sad sacks are making stops and searching cars for guns. For what? You’re not stopping crime. You’re only setting yourself up for problems. They voted Brandon into office bro. They are telling you what they want. No stops. No arrests of anyone. Don’t arrest unless the offender stayed on scene and nicely put his hands behind his back. Read the room. Or be sued into oblivion. Your choice.
7/07/2023 02:01:00 AM
Please don’t post here anymore.
Good Cops make good stops.
https://www.odmp.org/officer/4708-patrolman-william-p-fahey
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Stop telling us not to do traffic stops. How many more police and our family have to be car jacked and killed. Do your stops and know the law. That’s it. These old timers that don’t live here need to shut up. We have to live in this sh%t hole. It doesn’t make you boss look good, it’s doing our job and making this place safe. I grew up in Mt Greenwood. My kids go to school over here. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve left home to see something questionable. I can’t be everywhere. My wife is a CC, but do I really want her to have to use it? No. We need to get back to policing like it was when we were kids. You don’t need anything accept knowledge of the law. These are different times, but life changes. We adapt. 2 more coppers got car jacked last week by the way and our old superintendent had to stop one from getting his daughter and he’s 80 plus. Keep listening to these idiots.
7/07/2023 10:23:00 AM
The traffic stops won't help or make the city safer, but they can very easily turn into a clusterphuck. Cook County loves criminals, but doesn't care about the victims, no matter what their color. Just look at the number released on ridiculous bonds that do more violent crime. And the SafetyAct, another wise move. You're stuck in the shitty on the job, but if I had a family I'd ADAPT by I'd moving out of state for the sake of their safety. Wifey with a CC or not violent criminal rats are everywhere in Shitcago. And It sure won't get better and safer with BJ as mayor. But you know best, stay safe.
Innocent people are crying for the police, begging the police to do their jobs. This further ties the hands of the only people you can call in an emergency to help you. Do you think it’s bad now watch and see how bad it’s gonna get you don’t want the police to do anything the police are doing less now they will do nothing see how well you like living in a totally lawless society look at Paris, France for example what is going on right now totally out of control read about it. The media is not covering it pretending it’s not happening. violence is overwhelming and the mayor is doing what again?
Stop telling us not to do traffic stops. How many more police and our family have to be car jacked and killed. Do your stops and know the law. That’s it. These old timers that don’t live here need to shut up. We have to live in this sh%t hole. It doesn’t make you boss look good, it’s doing our job and making this place safe. I grew up in Mt Greenwood. My kids go to school over here. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve left home to see something questionable. I can’t be everywhere. My wife is a CC, but do I really want her to have to use it? No. We need to get back to policing like it was when we were kids. You don’t need anything accept knowledge of the law. These are different times, but life changes. We adapt. 2 more coppers got car jacked last week by the way and our old superintendent had to stop one from getting his daughter and he’s 80 plus. Keep listening to these idiots.
You poor poor man .I don’t care where you grew up . I live in Mt Greenwood as well . Knowing the law doesn’t mean shit when it comes time to getting sued . This piece of shit department , politicians and even our own states Atty continue to move the goal posts and are basically looking for reasons to fuck you. Hell, we have a force review unit to do just that . You do you , but any copper doing traffic stops in 2023 needs their god damn head examined .
Anonymous Anonymous said...
They should stop cars with tinted windows. And stop these assholes who scrape the paint off of their license plates.
7/07/2023 09:33:00 AM
Look at many districts especially the 10th district lot coppers with pickup trucks with deep tinted windows wtf! Hmm maybe that is where they do the illegal kids in the vehicles? You touch a kid you deserve life in prison
https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/local/chicago-police-oversight-agency-copy-invesitgation-alleged-sexual-misconduct-migrant-officers-police-station-10th-district/3182008/
7/07/2023 04:28:00 Pm
Legally tinted windows are now “where they do the illegal kids.” You’re a pure a fucking idiot.
Sounds like in light of this lawsuit, if you stop’em, write’em…
No its not racism, its bad policy and anyone with common sense should have seen this coming. All these traffic missions where Sgts are saying get me 20 cards and go home, ridiculous. It used to be about getting pistols and dope on Tstops......now its all about the almighty "blue card". We reap what we sow.
The entire time reading this until the last paragraph I was thinking in my head “I miss the daily Mope-rah schooling”. LOL
I see you haven’t missed a beat.
7/08/2023 06:51:00 AM
Well said. Give them the policing they want. The department and media will demonize you even when your actions are right. Take a look at the copper in the Mike Brown case or George Floyd and numerous others. You have got to be a fucking idiot to engage with Dude Inc in these times. This applies to ghetto districts, fuck em they hate you and dont want you NOTHING you do will make a difference.
Some of these guys think that by making arrests thats how to get promoted. Take a look at the promotions in the last 5 years and tell me if those clowns were hard chargers or just do nothings who were related to or frat brothers.
The ACLU analyzed more than 2.6 million traffic stops over six years, from 2016 through 2022, that showed Black drivers in Chicago are four to seven times more likely to be pulled over by police than whites, and Latino drivers are stopped twice as often.
Maybe blacks and latinos should raise better kids, but then when you embrace the ignorance that the democratic party is slinging it’s hard to think for yourself. Blacks and Latinos account fir the the majority of “street level” crime, while mostly whites, account for more sophisticated “white collar” higher echelon crimes. These are facts my ignorant ones who read this blog, not not some monkey shit I pulled out of my ass like the university of chicago and barack obama do and fling it at the millions hoping it sticks. It’s all spoken for, just look for it on the FBI crime statistics.
NPR says traffic cams are racist for the same reason. They write speeding and traffic light running citations that overly impact the same Demographics.
The Sun Times is the Democratic/Socialist political propaganda mouthpiece for the city. Disinformation and deception are their chief hallmarks. The best use of the Times is at the bottom of the bird cage.
Regarding Heather MacDonald's book, it's a great and informative read. It speaks truth to power. The local Administration and other political "barking dogs" hate it - truth hurts.
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