Assist Car Denied
A "merit" supervisor denies backup to a detective asking for an assist:
- LISTEN: 5241-Boy went over the air for a man wanted for a robbery. 699 (6th district lieutenant) immediately declined the request for assistance because there was apparently too much going on. Eventually, the detective was able to apprehend the wanted robbery offender. 5241, a sergeant for Area 2 detectives, asks for clarification on whether 699 declined a request for assistance to apprehend a robbery offender. The dispatcher essentially confirms this for him where 5241 (sarcastically) thanks 699 for the help and 699 snarkly says you're welcome. Car 42 then says to keep this off the air and says she will contact 5241. This is the state of Chicago Police "leadership." A robbery offender is wanted, the lieutenant refuses to help with catching him and with helping the officer trying to make the arrest. It's embarrassing.
The link contains the actual audio of the incident. This wasn't a foot chase, but an observed and identified robbery offender exiting the train. So we aren't chasing on-view robbers....and now we aren't arresting identified offenders from previous robberies.
699 is supposed Lt. S.D. You can find the name in some of the comments in yesterday's post about the Sox Park shooting - and there are some interesting theories / second-hand information about how that shooting went down - negligent discharge anyone?
Now we have to see what Car 42 is going to do. An Area sergeant (5241) is a phone call spot, and can be dumped without reason or explanation. The Watch Operations Lt (699) is also a phone call spot, and a "merit" promotee to boot. For that matter, so is the Area Chief (Car 42).
We're about to see the Phone Call Wars play out in real time.
Labels: un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
139 Comments:
Fkn disgusting
Fire 699
No...let's keep it on the air.
WTF is wrong with this no good department. This is not some petty merit promotion or uniform standard situation/discussion. It's a blatant safety issue. Please BACK EACH OTHER UP! Paperwork can be fixed but LODD's can't.
WTF, there are a whole lotta people that would love to see an officer hurt or killed. The ONLY thing you can count on is your brothers & sisters in blue coming to your aid. On my dept the Lt. Would go himself to back up his dick. Or he would damn sure make sure somebody broke off & assisted. In this day & age all we got is each other!!! That Lt. must have been asleep at the academy during well the whole thing! It is too bad that Beck ending merit promotions didn’t stick. Sadly, I think your dept. Has sank too low to come back. Does the Lt. at least wear her FULL uniform? Gun. (Loaded) cuffs, taser etc. do the inspectors inspect that high a rank use rank however you want
It’s rather simple.
5421B needs to request a preservation order of the radio transmissions via OEMC. And then he needs any supervisor to initiate the CR/CL process against that useless piece of shit coward 699.
Here’s just a few rules that bitch violated:
Rule 2
Any action or conduct which impedes the Department’s efforts to achieve its policy and goals or brings discredit upon the Department.
Rule 3
Any failure to promote the Department’s efforts to implement its policy or accomplish its goals.
Rule 5
Failure to perform any duty.
Rule 10
Inattention to duty.
Rule 11
Incompetency or inefficiency in the performance of duty.
And if 5421B is reluctant (scared) to do what’s right, anyone can initiate the process. Based on the fact that this exchange has been digitally memorialized, it’s a no-brainer. Get the number and make that asshole answer for his decision to endanger a coppers life. Even if he’s protected by the higher ups and the ensuing investigation is only going thru the motions/symbolic, put it on these cocksuckers. Make them answer officially in the event it can be used against them at some point in the future.
Fuck this useless bastard and any other Bosshole who might want to protect him.
Dumping the sgt under these circumstances is walking a fine line…retaliation? EEO?
699 - Lt. Shenetta Durham
5241-B clearly says he's watching the offender on the cameras, from the comfort of a chair in some camera room. 5241-B was not on the scene trying to make an arrest 99. 699 then denied the request as there was no unit on scene and there was lots of other stuff going on in the district. But when 5210-B got on the air saying they were right there, Bt 632 was sent to assist and 699 did not deny an assist to a unit already on the scene. 5210-B and 632 made the arrest without incident thankfully.
If a beat car was sent every time they spotted an offender on the trains, especially the Red Line, the district would be in a constant backlog. Maybe they could then send Mass Transit to answer calls in the district?
Sorry but if there's no popo on scene, and sh÷t is going on in the district, there's no need to send a beat car. And just because there's a robbery offender visible on a camera, that's no reason for everything else to stop and apprehend him when you have the uncertainty of victims and witnesses who don't cooperate and felony review denying charges. Been there, done that. And robbery offenders are a dime a dozen nowadays.
Furthermore, the beat car took the offender to the Area, where they probably dilly-dallied, maybe even did the arrest report to piss off 699, while other cars in the district got slammed covering their beat.
The real problem is the shortage of police personnel to handle all the crime in the city (City's fault). It's great catching robbery offenders but officer safety is also compromised when there's a shortage of officers available to answer calls and respond to help their brother and sister officers in the roll call room, not the camera room.
By all means, assist any unit on scene requesting it.
I don't know 699, and I'm impressed she was even listening to the radio at that moment listening for her officers (how many Watch Lts actually listen to the radio all the time?), but I got to call it as I see it.
Well the Hunter Biden of the PBPA won’t be any help right big butt. Over charge for horrible service and advice. Beep beep beep wide load coming through
This is outrageous!!!!!!!!!!!! Everything stops, let me say that again, everything stops when a police officer needs help and I didn’t hear much of an overwhelming response although good coppers may have been making their way there quietly. This incident was in the present moment and Lt 699 says we got too much going on with gang picnics. That can wait. No you dope you do everything in your power to help. Who cares about gang picnics. And car 42 was of no help, failed to over ride the incompetent decision by 699. If I was car 42 I would have blue lighted to 006 and laid out 699 in front of the whole station. These two nitwits are the Be the change for the worst, people. I am sorry for all you good people that have to put up with this. I have worked that area in the past and when I heard the tapes and even though I retired, I could feel myself tensing up, I am really pissed off.
Wol in 006 is opposite of a phone call spot. But the clouted will do a couple months to put it on the resume.
699 sounds like the lt
Over special events!! Ridiculous
This is the product of the merit system that has destroyed and keeps destroying this department. Unqualified, overly promoted members with no street/field experience. How can anybody take leadership like this serious? How can any sane person respect the
person assigned to this underserved rank? It’s pathetic, an embarrassment and a shame.
This is a BS take on what actually happened.
5241 said he is watching the offender ON CAMERA. That's no different than any info for the police, SDSC call out, CTA camera watcher, etc. In other words, sure, it would be great to be able to get this offender, but 006 certainly didn't have many resources available, like usual, being one of the busiest districts..
When 5210B indicates he is actually pulling up to the location, the situation changes. When he asks for an assist, 699 doesn't deny anything, and lo and behold, an assist is sent. Because at this point, it is a totally different scenario than when 5241 initially called it out.
5241 was a totally unprofessional, sarcastic and dramatic, thank God Car 42 shut down the conversation. You can hear P.O.s try an interrupt the convo too because they knew 5241 lost his mind. 699 remained professional. He did not. 699 has be manage resources and logistics. That is the job.
Everyone not in patrol seems to think that, at the drop of a dime, everyone needs to drop what they doing and go after someone. And then they frequently try and pawn the whole arrest on beat car.
Everyone I talked to after about the situation had the same take that I did. Plus, to my knowledge, 699 is well liked and respected in 006. She is definitely a good, reasonable boss who cares about her troops.
It helps when the entire story is told! The Sgt calle the station 1st before the radio conversation happened. He was told then therr was no car available to pick his offender up. The radio conversation happened AFTER he was told this dist was short on cars including Tac! Why didn't he use fugative? Now he's the victim of the WC? No he's a victim of himself! Knowing that a conversation happened BEFORE the back and forth on the zone is why car 42 jump on him and not 699!
God forbid the Sgt got hurt, That LT would be done. He should be done anyways.
Another reason CPD bosses like that and car 42 deserve zero respect from the coppers! Nothing but incompetent buffoons that get to steal that undeserved pension at the end!
It’s been said for years now, that the white shirts are the problem with this department. There is NO real leadership. The 006th is the worse and 003 follows. The 006 District is always in a backlog. Most outside officers know to avoid calling for backup in 006. No one will show up- and if a supervisor shows up to the assist call-some way some how, the officer is getting CR#. This has been going on for years. Poor leadership! You can get SWAT there faster than an assist unit.
Now, on the other hand, a smart detective knows that he/ she can’t tie up the districts’ manpower. The districts are already short of manpower! 006 remains stacked all day long. A smart detective will either send Fugitive Apprehension to make the arrest or show up with 3 other detectives. Detectives can be 99, but they don’t have to. Today’s detectives have become so lazy that they sit in the areas, and call the zone to request a beat car to go to a residence to look for a victim, witness or to conduct wellbeing checks. Yes, beat cars are down doing the dicks’ work. Whatever happened to the days when detectives knocked on doors, and made attempts to locate their own victims. Don’t detectives have more time on their hands, chase victims, than beat officers? Today’s detectives make one unsuccessful telephone call to a shooting victim during the follow-up, and suspend the case. It’s been said many times hear in the past, that many detective supervisors have never been detectives before, so they are clueless. They can’t correct a problem, that they don’t see as a problem.
I’m shocked this detective was in the field, because most cases are suspended immediately, from the desk. The outcome of this pissing match is going to be interesting. The new inspectors are going to have a field days in 003 and 006.
When the Captain won’t let his cars back up police officers trying to work and jeopardizing their safety, why work. Clueless leadership and lack of leadership!
This is the new normal!
OT, but how about Bt 211 going down on GAS in the middle of a 10-1? 010 said keep the cars coming, but priorities, I guess. What a couple of strokes.
Did the detective need the beat car to bring a pair of handcuffs again? Or a BWC to record a statement? The detective’s BWC should tell the full story.
Rightfully so, if the detective is from Mass Transit, he has a whole tact team and uniformed officers that should be on the train or nearby. 006 District swings from 79th Western to Ellis. Use your head detective especially on or near a platform. Coordinate and strategize.
This whole dept is run by clueless merit promoted idiots. The 7th and 22nd is the only thing that matters now. We all have a front row show to the greatest shit show in this city. Sit back and enjoy. Let these “bosses” figure it all out.
5241 should have immediately gotten a CR number.
If he did get dumped, it would be a great "Whisle Blower" lawsuit.
I don't think anything could surprise me at this point.
Anyone who knows 5241 knows he is the real police. He’s a great Sergeant who knows the job and fights for his people. We need more people like that on the job, and less people like 699.
That Lt should be written up and suspended ..... This department suxs so bad now, they preach all this BS about having your back and all the other BS and than deny a request for an assist. I was told a very long time ago, anyone calls for an assist, you stop what you are doing and you go!
Hack should be dumped immediately!
CR # on 699.
Look how far the department has fallen.
699 and Car 42 are both useless turds. Car 42 should be having a discussion with 699. This is what equity and inclusion get you.
These “new” Faux bosses want to protect and Act like ShitHeads, then do what ShitHeads do in return. If your Supervision allows you to get injured in anyway, Loevy Loevy their Asses too! Directly go after them individually for punitive harm and negligence. FOIA all report to push Rule 14 for their own cover ups. They clearly have drawn a line between white and blue, therefore viewing blue more expendable than ever before. These are the same Faux bosses who will tell your family that they “will be there” for them. They will wash their hands of you and your family and forget who the Fuck you ever were. It’s Extremely Sad! No need for you to ever step on your dick, they are stepping on it for you! Then blaming you for it!
Learn to Code!
Paper- Code… Paper- Code … Paper-Code … etc
Dirty Harry said Capt sick it in your ass >> https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-TDwhEQHzeE
Another reason why people can’t wait to leave the job (and the city and state).
Horrible.
If anyone knows 699, please remind him/her/it what they said from day one, back each other up!
If 699 is/was a man, see if the balls on the badge are flesh toned?
Sounds like this clown has none.
That Blue line appears to have a huge crack in it. Lol
Worked for SD for 6 months before she hit medical for a year. Completely clueless. Didn't even know my name.
I would initiate a supplementary report with the supervisor's names and Beat Numbers saying that the suspect was located and subsequently lost...Then initiate a stop order and suspend the case.
Then I would head to Starbucks and go for a 1 hour lunch...
Nothing surprises me anymore.
Well the commander of Area 2 detectives is a 🤡, and so is the over promoted Area2 Deputy Chief!! The Area 2 Sgt is the real deal has been a worker his entire career and has even been shot on this job.
Now we have officially reached the proverbial bottom of the barrel for clueless white shirts. Added to COPA, BJ, and the legacy of the Groot, we now have a systemic organizational cancer attacking the basic tenet of our profession, that being, a call for assistance never goes unheeded.
Get her Larry
More supervisors need to take hits for the dumbs sh-t that they do and allow.
my question would be did the detective / sergeant have a partner or if he knew an arrest was to be made why didn't he have another detective or two with him?
That “lieutenant” isn’t a police officer. Sounds more like an obese cta worker
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anyone who knows 5241 knows he is the real police. He’s a great Sergeant who knows the job and fights for his people. We need more people like that on the job, and less people like 699.
8/27/2023 07:06:00 AM
And knows that he routinely hangs districts out to dry with his bs retail theft/tracker call outs. They almost always end with a district unit sitting on these cars waiting for tows with no offenders because him and his guys are sitting comfortably at the Area
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT, but how about Bt 211 going down on GAS in the middle of a 10-1? 010 said keep the cars coming, but priorities, I guess. What a couple of strokes.
8/27/2023 05:49:00 AM
010's a decent way from 002. Did they maybe not have enough gas to get there? Not like they were tying up the zone that the 10-1 was on. If you know that they were purposely trying to avoid going then say that, that's a different story
Just another reason why I’m retiring early and going someplace else.
Nicholas Clowntessi beat 5241 never went over the air while watching a camera and gave out a description of a man wanted for a robbery. Afterwards a detective came on the radio and said he had eyes on the person and stated he was 99. At which time 006th units went to assist.
Then I would head to Starbucks and go for a 1 hour lunch...
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Why do you give that shitty company business?
We can’t catch robbery suspects because of gang picnics.
If the district was so short on cars and too busy because they are monitoring gang picnics, if an officer is asking for backup to effect a felony arrest, at the very least DO NOT refuse backup. You can say back him up and secure the suspect and have someone else come to the scene and take over with the transport if you can’t afford to down a car any longer than that. But totally refusing to send backup is just extremely poor and incompetent supervision.
Shenetta Durham equals useless
What do you expect? 006 is a TurdHole.
So it was merit Lt. Shenetta Durham. Put the names of these merit idiots out there!
Bet Shenetta will be a commander in less than two years, boy is this dept lucky!
What else is to be expected. You are les by commies.
You should worry more about the idiots outside of the building than inside.
There’s always more to the story. The dicks aren’t the same dicks of the past, and their supervisors either. We have a bunch of lazy, incompetent mofo’s. I’m sure 699 was looking out for her officers. She can’t strip her district of officers, while the dicks sit behind a camera calling out a suspect who committed a property crime. The communication wasn’t clear. Detectives and Mass Transit do better.
Actually it sounded like they were tracking the offender via cameras and had a 99 unit trying to catch up to the train, which though rush hour traffic on the highway, even with lights and sirens is difficult. Sounds like this LT has some “friends” coming to her defense even though she was clearly in the wrong. They could have had 3 cars there, the fact they were asking for help and she refused should be the issue here.
Lt has no Award history. Less than 10 Honorable mentions. Never did any police work going on 23 years with the department. She is 58 years old. Totally clueless about police work.
IAD won’t do anything (CR will go no where). They never do against Lt and above. Just move along, be glad no one was hurt and make it to retirement. CPD has become a total Shit Show with incompetence and clueless upper ranks.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Well the Hunter Biden of the PBPA won’t be any help right big butt. Over charge for horrible service and advice. Beep beep beep wide load coming through
8/27/2023 02:52:00 AM
Please explain how the PBPA has anything to do with this incident?
If you want to just bitch about her fat ass, well, then bitch.
Gang picnics lol ... we had zero reason to babysit unless something pops off, though it absolutely sounds delicious. Also, love "what a joke" made it to the scanner ... hey 699, most of us understand fugitive COULD go pick 'em up, but they aren't as close as say a patrol body. Please realize, you're going to get someone killed.
#blue-shirt
8/27/2023 02:06:00 AM———-
Your 100% correct. The first unit got over the air with their bull shit. Until 5410B asked for another car, It’s nonsense. Beat cars in 006 have enough bull shit to deal with. They don’t need to do the work of some ass hole sitting in his fuckin chair calling out shit over the air. 699 is an idiot that’s a given. But the fact that she put 2 and 2 together and denied it to the hard charger in the office calling it out, was actually the right move. It was not urgent until 5410B was actually on scene about to take action.
Shitnetta Durham should have never been promoted past her P.O. status. Shows no working knowledge of field incidents and how to supervise them
8/27/2023 02:06:00 AM———-
Your 100% correct. The first unit got over the air with their bull shit. Until 5410B asked for another car, It’s nonsense. Beat cars in 006 have enough bull shit to deal with. They don’t need to do the work of some ass hole sitting in his fuckin chair calling out shit over the air. 699 is an idiot that’s a given. But the fact that she put 2 and 2 together and denied it to the hard charger in the office calling it out, was actually the right move. It was not urgent until 5410B was actually on scene about to take action.
Does this surprise any real copper??? When Shit-headed merit Fuck-O's are running the show!!!!!!
What comes around, Goes around.
Anonymous said...
Anyone who knows 5241 knows he is the real police. He’s a great Sergeant who knows the job and fights for his people. We need more people like that on the job, and less people like 699.
8/27/2023 07:06:00 AM
Hey sarg, when you post about yourself be sure to tell everything! Not just the part that makes you look like a victim! You didn't get the answer you wanted and acted like a child! That's the story, now you're "the real police" and a victim! You should have been hit with a number!
Talking about LT’s……how about the one at 630, running it into the ground and driving everyone away with assignments. People want to leave just so they don’t have to deal with him. Can’t the bosses see why no one will bid to 630. He’s got the time and age…..time to retire.
The sorority of the sister hood will I am sure win out
Anonymous said...
699 - Lt. Shenetta Durham
8/27/2023 01:53:00 AM
Was she a SGT in 006 about 10 years ago. I believe new SGT at the time and was a patrolman in 004 before, F/1, short hair, small frame? If so, I can vouch for her being a good person. Someone shot her window out with her in it while shooting a dog and, while shaken up, never tried to jam the copper, even though I thought it was a dumb shoot if I remember correctly.
If what the statements I’m hearing are true, that it was a POD tracking of a robbery offender, then yeah, you are NOT asking for an assist, you’re asking for an arrest, big difference. If this is the same supervisor I knew in 006, I am definitely giving her the benefit of the doubt. For what it’s worth, I’m an M/2 and can say she treated me fairly and took care of me on jobs and advice, and I will rely on that rather than this story.
Anonymous said...
Anyone who knows 5241 knows he is the real police. He’s a great Sergeant who knows the job and fights for his people. We need more people like that on the job, and less people like 699.
8/27/2023 07:06:00 AM
100% agree! Solid guy. Know him well. The actual police. And for anyone sticking up for 699.....well, you can GFY proper
When a officer asks for assistance, no matter what you go,
Gonna sidetrack for a second, how many districts set up a fixed post to protect narcotics tips? 015 for sure, anyone else? Seems like it's a violation of multiple rules and yet keeps happening, for the same gang too which seems like a weird coincidence.
She’s no leader of men. Back when I was working, I would have called for every swinging dick available to assist that officer on the robbery caper!
“
There's a holdup in the Bronx,
Brooklyn's broken out in fights.
There's a traffic jam in Harlem
That's backed up to Jackson Heights.
There's a scout troop short a child,
Khrushchev's due at Idlewild
CAR 54 WHERE ARE YOU “
could have ended a lot worse. If anyone can remember a Commander that attempted an arrest on the CTA..Who fucking cares what's currently going on in these shithole neighborhoods. Somebody calls for help, Im going
27/2023 07:06:00 AM
Hey sarg, when you post about yourself be sure to tell everything! Not just the part that makes you look like a victim! You didn't get the answer you wanted and acted like a child! That's the story, now you're "the real police" and a victim! You should have been hit with a number!
8/27/2023 01:52:00 PM
Should have hit with a number? for what exactly? you sound like a big fucking pussy
211 on 1st watch? You could be fighting for your life in arms reach and those broads wouldn't do a thing to help. They're useless.
Interestingly, she’s the 012 P.O. that was working the desk at the academy on 3rd Watch and asked the 1st Deputy for Administration and Nepo Narcotics Sales Bea Cuello for an I.D. Bea took umbrage that her large nose was not recognized, threatened to dump whatever useless exempt was running the academy, and had the P.O. moved to 005.
For all those talking shit saying they were tracking the offender via POD, you don’t know what you’re talking about. They were following a tracker, POs were able to get video from robbery and had offender description. While seeing the tracker on highway/train they observed him exiting the cta car. They had their own enforcement working but wasn’t near the scene, hence them asking for help. The offender wasn’t known as the robbery just occurred, so having Fugitive grab him like she wanted wasn’t an option. You can tell these commenters sticking up for the LT have never done any actual police work in their careers. The one 99 unit that was near wanted an assist car because who knows what will happen. They asked for assistance, and we’re denied. Rather than admit she was wrong and made a mistake in judgement she doubled down with the sarcastic “anytime”
Comment. While 5241 isn’t entirely in the right here with his sarcastic comment, he’s in the right here to call her out for her failure as a supervisor and leader. To deny assistance, for anyone at anytime is wrong. Had something gone wrong she wouldn’t have felt she did anything wrong.
There's a great sea change on this department I'm glad to see. The younger officers are challenging supervisors and bosses b.s. The old timers would have just shut up and take it in the ass. More officers with less than 10 years on the job are leaving more than retirees. Main reason: Getting yelled at for no reason at all. And good for them. Who wants to come to work everyday and get yelled at by some merit with a superiority complex and a GED.
"There’s always more to the story. The dicks aren’t the same dicks of the past, and their supervisors either. We have a bunch of lazy, incompetent mofo’s. I’m sure 699 was looking out for her officers. She can’t strip her district of officers, while the dicks sit behind a camera calling out a suspect who committed a property crime. The communication wasn’t clear. Detectives and Mass Transit do better."
If you're the police, please turn in your star and find a different line of work, considering you don't know that a ROBBERY isn't a THEFT or BURGLARY, and thus it is a VIOLENT crime. If you don't know that, you're dumber than you sound.
For those that care. Shithead was charged with 1 count of Armed Robbery, 1 count of Agg assault and 1 Agg domestic from a previous incident where he was IDd prior to this encounter. So not someone they should have let go or try to arrest 99
Not siding with the merit Lt at all but CTA has numerous tac teams. One of them could have taken it or answered up. They don’t do anything or ever answer the radio anyway.
Off topic, but important: The sox actually won a game today, and nobody got shot.
Anonymous said...
Anyone who knows 5241 knows he is the real police. He’s a great Sergeant who knows the job and fights for his people. We need more people like that on the job, and less people like 699.
Hey sarge, you’re an idiot! The next time wait for backup!
Half of you still don't seem to understand.
SHE NEVER DENIED AN ASSIST. It wasn't an assist a P.O., it was a guy behind a camera who did not indicate that he had anyone coming to the actual scene. Based on the info that was given over the air, he was asking a car to go ARREST an offender. That is when she said we aren't sending anyone to do that.
When other unit came over the air and said he was arriving, that changed the scenario. Notice she didn't come over the air at that point (or any point for that matter) to deny an assist, and the dispatcher got that unit an assist.
And what some of you dont't know is that 5241 called ahead of time to and spoke to someone (maybe the tact Sgt?) and was told something to the effect of us not being able to send anyone to handle it. So he does the right thing in trying to coordinate with district resources, at first...
But when he doesn't like the answer he got, he disregards what he is told and tries to force the issue over the air, and then tries to play victim and get on a high horse. So f-ing shady.
699 was totally right here, and she's a good boss. And for those of you saying Car 42 wasn't the working police?? Think again. She was always showing up to scenes/calls as a LT and Commander. Still made traffics stops too. She definitely watched out for her troops and always asked about families and personal well-being.
Makes me absolutely sick!! The white shirts drew the line during Covid and the divide just keeps getting wider and wider! Blue shirts stand alone except for a few who haven’t forgotten that they bleed BLUE too💔
Ghetto merit ummmm -hmmmm ...do you know who I is? 🤡
Talking about LT’s……how about the one at 630, running it into the ground and driving everyone away with assignments. People want to leave just so they don’t have to deal with him. Can’t the bosses see why no one will bid to 630. He’s got the time and age…..time to retire.
Whole 630 is so micromanaged that nobody wants to bid there. 3rd watch and 1st watch can't leave unless "released" by Sgt., no other Area does that bs.
2nd watch detectives come 2-3 hours late and they leave 2 hours early. The 1st watch is being fucked the most!!! Thats why i left A/3.
File a CR
"If what the statements I’m hearing are true, that it was a POD tracking of a robbery offender, then yeah, you are NOT asking for an assist, you’re asking for an arrest, big difference."
Veteran detective here. I agree. Asking for a car to go after somebody you see on pod camera is quite different than asking for help to arrest. I don't know the supervisor but she gets a pass on this one.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
8/27/2023 02:06:00 AM———-
Your 100% correct. The first unit got over the air with their bull shit. Until 5410B asked for another car, It’s nonsense. Beat cars in 006 have enough bull shit to deal with. They don’t need to do the work of some ass hole sitting in his fuckin chair calling out shit over the air. 699 is an idiot that’s a given. But the fact that she put 2 and 2 together and denied it to the hard charger in the office calling it out, was actually the right move. It was not urgent until 5410B was actually on scene about to take action.
8/27/2023 01:47:00 PM
You’re both morons and your lack of street experience shows. You should be ashamed of yourselves for actually defending someone for denying a policeman assistance because of a “gang funeral.”
I’m glad I retired from CPD. Bunch of clowns in charge.
Anonymous said...
Interestingly, she’s the 012 P.O. that was working the desk at the academy on 3rd Watch and asked the 1st Deputy for Administration and Nepo Narcotics Sales Bea Cuello for an I.D. Bea took umbrage that her large nose was not recognized, threatened to dump whatever useless exempt was running the academy, and had the P.O. moved to 005.
8/27/2023 06:02:00 PM
She's the Lt?!? Holy Shit! She's a Lt? Holy Shit again.
understand.
SHE NEVER DENIED AN ASSIST. It wasn't an assist a P.O., it was a guy behind a camera who did not indicate that he had anyone coming to the actual scene. Based on the info that was given over the air, he was asking a car to go ARREST an offender. That is when she said we aren't sending anyone to do that.
When other unit came over the air and said he was arriving, that changed the scenario. Notice she didn't come over the air at that point (or any point for that matter) to deny an assist, and the dispatcher got that unit an assist.
And what some of you dont't know is that 5241 called ahead of time to and spoke to someone (maybe the tact Sgt?) and was told something to the effect of us not being able to send anyone to handle it. So he does the right thing in trying to coordinate with district resources, at first...
But when he doesn't like the answer he got, he disregards what he is told and tries to force the issue over the air, and then tries to play victim and get on a high horse. So f-ing shady.
699 was totally right here, and she's a good boss. And for those of you saying Car 42 wasn't the working police?? Think again. She was always showing up to scenes/calls as a LT and Commander. Still made traffics stops too. She definitely watched out for her troops and always asked about families and personal well-being.
Showing up to scenes and calls is what’s she’s supposed to do. The fact that she’s inept is the problem. Get your head out of your ass.
If you're the police, please turn in your star and find a different line of work, considering you don't know that a ROBBERY isn't a THEFT or BURGLARY, and thus it is a VIOLENT crime. If you don't know that, you're dumber than you sound.
8/27/2023 06:04:00 PM
Lol. The indignation is hysterical, especially when you are completely wrong. If you are the police you've been doing it wrong.
A lot of angry comments towards 699. Don't know her and maybe her reputation is what has many angry. As a neutral 3rd party though, this seems a little overblown.It sounded like they wanted a beat car to arrest the offender for them as they watched. That would be bs because she's right, there are units specifically for that. Once it was said backup was needed for the 99 unit she didn't deny any cars going
I don’t know any of the people involved, and reserved my opinion until listening to the radio transmissions. Anyone who actually listened and defended 699 is an absolute oxygen thief. She went out of her way to deny assistance and prevent anyone from responding based on gang funerals and picnics. Let that sink in…. The Detective was tracking a violent offender and was told to have fugitive go get him. Over the air. That is the message that piece of trash sent. That you will get no help from 006 because there’s too much going on. What district isn’t busy? Pathetic. The second-guessers that are judging the Detective are missing the bigger picture. You should be willing to help anyone who asks for it. If the 99 unit that responded got hurt because of that over-promoted moron, then what would you say? Disgusting. There was a time in this Department when that type of behavior would be universally condemned. Now we are looking at the person who requested help and analyzing the validity of the request? Unfuckingreal. I just hope 699 needs help someday and there’s a bunch of gang picnics and funerals going on, so she can know how it feels. Shame on you. And all the idiots who defend your deplorable actions.
002nd district 001 watch 211 Gurak and “Porkchop” think people are racist toward them because of their polish accent. What a joke they need to do some serious reflecting because a lot of good officers have accents. No one gives a shit about that, it’s your work ethic and personalities. Useless.
There's a great sea change on this department I'm glad to see. The younger officers are challenging supervisors and bosses b.s. The old timers would have just shut up and take it in the ass. More officers with less than 10 years on the job are leaving more than retirees. Main reason: Getting yelled at for no reason at all. And good for them. Who wants to come to work everyday and get yelled at by some merit with a superiority complex and a GED.
That’s why a lot these old timers are butt hurt by the younger “tik tok police”. We figured out sooner and real quick that this is all bullshit. We don’t need/want to do deal with these clown bosses. Send home the same 3-4 cars home early every night, you bet your ass I’m walking in and checking off sooner, what are they gonna do? It’s all a game folks, learn to play it and it’s easy.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
8/27/2023 02:06:00 AM———-
Your 100% correct. The first unit got over the air with their bull shit. Until 5410B asked for another car, It’s nonsense. Beat cars in 006 have enough bull shit to deal with. They don’t need to do the work of some ass hole sitting in his fuckin chair calling out shit over the air. 699 is an idiot that’s a given. But the fact that she put 2 and 2 together and denied it to the hard charger in the office calling it out, was actually the right move. It was not urgent until 5410B was actually on scene about to take action.
8/27/2023 01:47:00 PM
You’re both morons and your lack of street experience shows. You should be ashamed of yourselves for actually defending someone for denying a policeman assistance because of a “gang funeral.”
8/27/2023 08:44:00 PM
699 is wrong. Period ! Officer calls for an assist for an offender, Officers go and assist. I personally don't like the arm chair QB's in the district watching the cameras because they send other PO's into shit and have no liability.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Half of you still don't seem to understand.
SHE NEVER DENIED AN ASSIST. It wasn't an assist a P.O., it was a guy behind a camera who did not indicate that he had anyone coming to the actual scene. Based on the info that was given over the air, he was asking a car to go ARREST an offender. That is when she said we aren't sending anyone to do that.
When other unit came over the air and said he was arriving, that changed the scenario. Notice she didn't come over the air at that point (or any point for that matter) to deny an assist, and the dispatcher got that unit an assist.
And what some of you dont't know is that 5241 called ahead of time to and spoke to someone (maybe the tact Sgt?) and was told something to the effect of us not being able to send anyone to handle it. So he does the right thing in trying to coordinate with district resources, at first...
But when he doesn't like the answer he got, he disregards what he is told and tries to force the issue over the air, and then tries to play victim and get on a high horse. So f-ing shady.
699 was totally right here, and she's a good boss. And for those of you saying Car 42 wasn't the working police?? Think again. She was always showing up to scenes/calls as a LT and Commander. Still made traffics stops too. She definitely watched out for her troops and always asked about families and personal well-being.
So what if the person seeing the offender is watching on a camera. That's their job. It's 699's job to have someone go and arrest the offender. Not babysit a gang funeral. Where is the priority here. Our job is to arrest offenders. Not babysit funerals. Get your priority straight.
'You’re both morons and your lack of street experience shows. You should be ashamed of yourselves for actually defending someone for denying a policeman assistance because of a “gang funeral.”
Um which policeman did she deny assistance to exactly? the detective in the sdsc room watching a camera? I'm a detective and ask for help occasionally. Sometimes there isn't any available so I wait, I handle it 99, or I let it go. What I don't do is bitch and cry about it. Unless it's a 10-1 I don't expect anybody to drop What they are doing. I appreciate the help if available but not if it means they have to leave a backup and make another situation unsafe for officers You are the fucking moron you ignorant douchbag.
by the way douchbag... a gang funeral is a potentially volatile and dangerous situation but you already know that because of your extensive street experience. Right?
“You’re both morons and your lack of street experience shows. You should be ashamed of yourselves for actually defending someone for denying a policeman assistance because of a “gang funeral.””
You’re the moron!
Did you listen to the tape? The detective sergeant was not calling for an assist as in help me and getting my ass kicked! He was calling for someone in the Patrol Division to do his work. He saw an offender on TV and wanted a beat car to pick him up for him. 699 essentially said do your own work. When a one-man dick car came on the scene, saw the offender and requested a back up, 699 did not intervene. That was in a legitimate call for an assist car, a back up. Furthermore, when the bad guy was in custody 699, allowed the six Districk car to transport the offender to the area, which was the right thing to do.
Your 100% correct. The first unit got over the air with their bull shit. Until 5410B asked for another car, It’s nonsense. Beat cars in 006 have enough bull shit to deal with. They don’t need to do the work of some ass hole sitting in his fuckin chair calling out shit over the air. 699 is an idiot that’s a given. But the fact that she put 2 and 2 together and denied it to the hard charger in the office calling it out, was actually the right move. It was not urgent until 5410B was actually on scene about to take action.
8/27/2023 01:47:00 PM
You are 100% correct.
If what the statements I’m hearing are true, that it was a POD tracking of a robbery offender, then yeah, you are NOT asking for an assist, you’re asking for an arrest, big difference."
Veteran detective here. I agree. Asking for a car to go after somebody you see on pod camera is quite different than asking for help to arrest. I don't know the supervisor but she gets a pass on this one.
8/27/2023 08:13:00 PM
Thank you, you are a source of sound judgment, and reason.
“ For those that care. Shithead was charged with 1 count of Armed Robbery, 1 count of Agg assault and 1 Agg domestic from a previous incident where he was IDd prior to this encounter. So not someone they should have let go or try to arrest 99
8/27/2023 06:06:00 PM”
Thanks for the info, this is good to know.
It shows that the detective sergeant is very good at watching TV and calling on patrol cars to do his work.
The tape clearly shows that a detective, assisted by a patrol car, made the arrest.
It should be noted that 699 approved the district car, assisting the detective, on the scene.
God forbid the Sgt got hurt, That LT would be done. He should be done anyways.
How could the sergeant get hurt sitting in his office watching TV?
His only danger was falling off the chair.
The sergeant was never in the field. The sergeant was never in danger.
You people are determined to misunderstand to situation. You’re just dying to drag the WOL down. It started out as a pod tracking.
This would be the same Lt.who tried to impede investigators from arresting her grandson who did a carjacking at Archer and Narragansett earlier this year. She was off duty and threw out the race card,the Lt. card, and just about every card she could.
I’ve heard of Arm Chair QB, But This is Ridiculous!
Arm Chair Sgt’s vs Cubby Hole Lt’s
Anonymous said...
If what the statements I’m hearing are true, that it was a POD tracking of a robbery offender, then yeah, you are NOT asking for an assist, you’re asking for an arrest, big difference."
Veteran detective here. I agree. Asking for a car to go after somebody you see on pod camera is quite different than asking for help to arrest. I don't know the supervisor but she gets a pass on this one.
8/27/2023 08:13:00 PM
Thank you, you are a source of sound judgment, and reason.
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Obviously “veteran detective” you either a liar or an idiot. Maybe listen to the audio. 5210b was 99 and asking for an assist. Dumbass
nonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Half of you still don't seem to understand.
SHE NEVER DENIED AN ASSIST. It wasn't an assist a P.O., it was a guy behind a camera who did not indicate that he had anyone coming to the actual scene. Based on the info that was given over the air, he was asking a car to go ARREST an offender. That is when she said we aren't sending anyone to do that.
When other unit came over the air and said he was arriving, that changed the scenario. Notice she didn't come over the air at that point (or any point for that matter) to deny an assist, and the dispatcher got that unit an assist.
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Got an S.B. Lapdawg here. There’s no nuts to swing on. S.B. Has two brain cells fighting for 3rd place. And 699 ain’t the police either, grandson got done up for a robbery and she a pooooleeecceee hater. Gtfoh.
outside observer here. Sounded like the Detectives were tracking the offender and he was exiting the train and they had no one near to stop and detain him. Didn’t sound like they were asking for anyone to take the whole arrest over and handle the investigation. Rather than have to scramble and create more work for everyone to recover video, ID offender, author multiple search warrants they asked for help detaining and Identifying offender after he robbed someone. 699 would rather have fugitive follow up and let this criminal rob countless people in an effort to cover the game funerals and picnics that were happening.
Anonymous said...
5241-B clearly says he's watching the offender on the cameras, from the comfort of a chair in some camera room. 5241-B was not on the scene trying to make an arrest 99. 699 then denied the request as there was no unit on scene and there was lots of other stuff going on in the district.
Go make your own arrest. I don't know what PC you have. I hate 3rd party arrests. Detectives can leave the office too. Stop bitching because the Lt. told you to go pound sand.
Interestingly, she’s the 012 P.O. that was working the desk at the academy on 3rd Watch and asked the 1st Deputy for Administration and Nepo Narcotics Sales Bea Cuello for an I.D. Bea took umbrage that her large nose was not recognized, threatened to dump whatever useless exempt was running the academy, and had the P.O. moved to 005.
8/27/2023 06:02:00 PM
In the late 70's/early 80's, Princess Bea was a bartender for southside watch parties. It doesn't make her bad, but you would think she would not be so high & mighty in her subsequent career. Apparently, she was in denial of her past life.
"So what if the person seeing the offender is watching on a camera. That's their job. It's 699's job to have someone go and arrest the offender. Not babysit a gang funeral. Where is the priority here. Our job is to arrest offenders. Not babysit funerals. Get your priority straight."
That's 699's job? Says who? Her job to manage resources and personnel. And she did just that. There was not one, but 3 gang funerals and one large gathering at Foster Park was already causing trouble. Don't think a gang funeral should be monitoring? There was a shooting at a gang funeral in 006 earlier this month. Stop thinking with you dick, think bigger picture.
"Got an S.B. Lapdawg here. There’s no nuts to swing on. S.B. Has two brain cells fighting for 3rd place. And 699 ain’t the police either, grandson got done up for a robbery and she a pooooleeecceee hater. Gtfoh."
Those are some tough words keyboard warrior. Typical strategy you employed.. when you're losing an argument, resort to personal attacks and not address the discussion.
I'm not anyone's lapdawg. I'm not in the club. I hate department's implementation of merit. Never once commented on this blog before this thread. But when I saw the lying and misrepresentation about something I actually knew about, I felt the need to address it.
Blogger Prairiepolice said...
You should worry more about the idiots outside of the building than inside.
8/27/2023 11:39:00 AM
In theory, yes! One SHOULD worry more about the idiots outside, but unfortunately we depend on the people inside to have our backs... And some of them DONT.
Obviously “veteran detective” you either a liar or an idiot. Maybe listen to the audio. 5210b was 99 and asking for an assist. Dumbass
8/28/2023 08:20:00 AM
Obviously, you are the one who needs to go back and listen to the audio. An assist was denied to the requester watching the cameras. An assist was not denied to 5210B who was on the scene. Pejorative intentionally not being mentioned at this point as your own words speak for themselves.
"If what the statements I’m hearing are true, that it was a POD tracking of a robbery offender, then yeah, you are NOT asking for an assist, you’re asking for an arrest, big difference."
Veteran detective here. I agree. Asking for a car to go after somebody you see on pod camera is quite different than asking for help to arrest. I don't know the supervisor but she gets a pass on this one.
If you really are a veteran detective like you claim. It’s good odds you suck at your job and sure turn that star in
There's a big difference between asking for an "assist" when you are physically present and have eyeballs on an offender, and asking for a car to make an arrest when you are not physically present but behind a TV screen many miles away and you have cameras on an offender. When you have cameras on an offender, you are not asking for an "assist," you are asking for someone else to go hands-on with an offender, essentially asking someone else to do the dirty work.
An "assist" was never denied to someone physically on the scene. The tape speaks truth to that. Listen again naysayers.
A CR# should be issued on the Detective. He was initially conducting a pod follow. He observed an offender from the comfort of his desk, then called the 006th District asking if a unit was available to make the arrest and was told that there was no cars available to available. The detective then tried to embarrass the Lt by going over the air after being told that there were no cars available. When a detective finally showed up obscene and requested an assist, the assist went without any objection from the Lt. The Detective started this BS, and there should be a CR issued and he should be dumped from the CTA detail. Your digging of the Lt. was unjust. The Lt. obviously didn’t know that the detective was trying to rope her into some B-sh-t!
A CR# should be issued on the Detective. He was initially conducting a pod follow. He observed an offender from the comfort of his desk, then called the 006th District asking if a unit was available to make the arrest and was told that there was no cars available to available. The detective then tried to embarrass the Lt by going over the air after being told that there were no cars available. When a detective finally showed up obscene and requested an assist, the assist went without any objection from the Lt. The Detective started this BS, and there should be a CR issued and he should be dumped from the CTA detail. Your digging of the Lt. was unjust. The Lt. obviously didn’t know that the detective was trying to rope her into some B-sh-t!
You are a complete idiot. CR on the detective for what, exactly?
So you’re cool that we’re at a point where we watch offenders who just robbed someone walk away because of gang picnics. And you believe a CR should be generated on someone for trying to do their job? i am so disgusted with the state of this department and the morons who run it. I hope you need help some day, nimrod. And I hope you don’t get it. People like you are the reason morale is in the toilet.
An "assist" was never denied to someone physically on the scene. The tape speaks truth to that. Listen again naysayers.
The original unit was watching the camera. Within seconds of her denial the on scene unit is asking for an assist to detain the offender. Considering she was still listening to the radio any Lt with a working brain would have corrected their original denial and sent an assist unit immediately. How anyone is defending this shit for brains LT is ridiculous.
Up until about 10 years ago when a detective asked for someone to grab a robbery offender there would have been a tremendous response. I remember almost 30 years ago if the same situation occurred and you were 3 blocks away I can guarantee you would have been no better than 5th car on scene, probably get a salute from the detective for inter department cooperation and taking a violent offender off the streets and more than likely an honorable mention from your Sgt.
Sadly, I think the lack of good, quality police officers started with McCarthy. Those officers walked around the block and are completely clueless as to what real police work is and how to act like a police officer should.
25 years ago the Lt. would have 4 flat tires, not the standard 1, because of the seriousness of what she did...that's just how it was back then.
Today, you get pathetic officers who actually think the detective is wrong and the Lt. is right. The department has done a complete 180.
This is what the powers to be want.....crybaby, whiners who don't do nothing and get CR'S on each other for anything and everything and then go sit in the quiet room and breastfeed!!
For years the powers to be tried to change the department to crybaby, whiners who don't do nothing and get CR'S on each other for anything and everything and then go sit in the quiet room but never had any luck........until now....Millennials!!!
Shame on everyone and anyone who thinks the Lt. was right here
Anonymous Anonymous said...
A CR# should be issued on the Detective. He was initially conducting a pod follow. He observed an offender from the comfort of his desk, then called the 006th District asking if a unit was available to make the arrest and was told that there was no cars available to available. The detective then tried to embarrass the Lt by going over the air after being told that there were no cars available. When a detective finally showed up on-scene and requested an assist, the assist went without any objection from the Lt. The Detective started this BS, and there should be a CR issued and he should be dumped from the CTA detail. Your digging of the Lt. was unjust. The Lt. obviously didn’t know that the detective was trying to rope her into some B-sh-t!
You are a complete idiot. CR on the detective for what, exactly?
So you’re cool that we’re at a point where we watch offenders who just robbed someone walk away because of gang picnics. And you believe a CR should be generated on someone for trying to do their job? i am so disgusted with the state of this department and the morons who run it. I hope you need help some day, nimrod. And I hope you don’t get it. People like you are the reason morale is in the toilet.
You do know that we have a whole unit called Mass Transit right? So listen clueless, if the detective was watching an offender rob someone he should have called for the CTA Tact team, the CTA Uniformed officers or the CTA Special Employment Officers. Every CTA Train stop is a fixed post or a special attention pea brain. CTA Uniformed officers don’t have vehicles because they are assigned to fixed posts or riding the trains. Mass Transit has its own zone and beat tag numbers for communication purposes.
The detective didn’t use his zone because he didn’t want the arrest.
You are a complete idiot. CR on the detective for what, exactly?
So you’re cool that we’re at a point where we watch offenders who just robbed someone walk away because of gang picnics. And you believe a CR should be generated on someone for trying to do their job? i am so disgusted with the state of this department and the morons who run it. I hope you need help some day, nimrod. And I hope you don’t get it. People like you are the reason morale is in the toilet.
Dude the Deputy Chief already handled it! Take your meds and relax. You’re hopping under every post. It’s been handled already. The Lt is good. Get some sleep. Call your doctor in the morning.
I can assure you that 5241, although it may be a “phone call spot” was absolutely earned by NC. He should be sitting in 699s chair.. or even higher with a gold star by now.
You are a complete idiot. CR on the detective for what, exactly?
So you’re cool that we’re at a point where we watch offenders who just robbed someone walk away because of gang picnics. And you believe a CR should be generated on someone for trying to do their job? i am so disgusted with the state of this department and the morons who run it. I hope you need help some day, nimrod. And I hope you don’t get it. People like you are the reason morale is in the toilet.
Dude the Deputy Chief already handled it! Take your meds and relax. You’re hopping under every post. It’s been handled already. The Lt is good. Get some sleep. Call your doctor in the morning.
Thanks for the advice. I sleep great knowing the millennial police will get CR#s on other officers asking for assistance.
You do know that we have a whole unit called Mass Transit right? So listen clueless, if the detective was watching an offender rob someone he should have called for the CTA Tact team, the CTA Uniformed officers or the CTA Special Employment Officers. Every CTA Train stop is a fixed post or a special attention pea brain. CTA Uniformed officers don’t have vehicles because they are assigned to fixed posts or riding the trains. Mass Transit has its own zone and beat tag numbers for communication purposes.
The detective didn’t use his zone because he didn’t want the arrest.
Without resorting to name-calling, I believe the reason 699 is receiving so much backlash is because good bosses historically would chastise those who DIDN’T respond to assists, REGARDLESS of the circumstances, ESPECIALLY involving wanted violent offenders. There was a time when half the district would show up before the officer would finish his request. The fact that a merit hack Lt denied the request infuriates officers who see this as a slap in the face.
So while it may be true there are multiple CTA units who could have assisted, that really isn’t the point. Veteran officers remember a time when you backed each other up, no matter how you felt about the person asking for help. Apparently you came on the job fairly recently and never experienced that. Sadly, that’s where we are as a department, thus the comments from frustrated coppers who have seen this department be destroyed from the inside out.
No matter how bad it got, at least we used to be able to rely on each other.
Without resorting to name-calling, I believe the reason 699 is receiving so much backlash is because good bosses historically would chastise those who DIDN’T respond to assists, REGARDLESS of the circumstances, ESPECIALLY involving wanted violent offenders. There was a time when half the district would show up before the officer would finish his request. The fact that a merit hack Lt denied the request infuriates officers who see this as a slap in the face.
So while it may be true there are multiple CTA units who could have assisted, that really isn’t the point. Veteran officers remember a time when you backed each other up, no matter how you felt about the person asking for help. Apparently you came on the job fairly recently and never experienced that. Sadly, that’s where we are as a department, thus the comments from frustrated coppers who have seen this department be destroyed from the inside out.
No matter how bad it got, at least we used to be able to rely on each other.
Most veteran officers know that there’s a difference between requesting a unit to make an arrest for you and requesting an assist unit. You haven’t a clue of what actually took place. Go drink your celsius water and monster drink young jock.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Up until about 10 years ago when a detective asked for someone to grab a robbery offender there would have been a tremendous response. I remember almost 30 years ago if the same situation occurred and you were 3 blocks away I can guarantee you would have been no better than 5th car on scene, probably get a salute from the detective for inter department cooperation and taking a violent offender off the streets and more than likely an honorable mention from your Sgt. ..
Wrong again, 20-30 years ago we knocked on door and made our own arrests. There was no Fugitive Apprehension Unit. We walked 10 flights of stair in the CHA projects and made arrests. We kept some arrest from tact because they would screw things up. You can’t compare today to 30 years ago or 10 years ago.
Here's another way to look at it.
Before 5241 got on the air, there was no one to send an assist to. Because the detective making the request was not even there! He was watching a camera from miles away! Think about it! There was no one asking for an assist as we understand an assist, meaning helping someone on scene.
When 5241 got on the air saying he was on the scene with eyes on the suspect, OEMC sent an assist and no assist at that point was denied.
Basically, the first detective watching the camera wasn't asking for an assist, he was giving information more like a flash message.
I think everyone gets that concept. The detective was not in trouble. He was not on scene. It was like flash message, etc…
The point is, 699 would let a robbery offender go because of gang picnics. That is troublesome. Especially when robberies are affecting everyone in the city. If a murderer was walking down the street holding a decapitated head, his immediate arrest should supersede babysitting a gang picnic or funeral. Violent robbery offenders should fall into that category as well.
Anonymous said...
I think everyone gets that concept. The detective was not in trouble. He was not on scene. It was like flash message, etc…
The point is, 699 would let a robbery offender go because of gang picnics. That is troublesome. Especially when robberies are affecting everyone in the city. If a murderer was walking down the street holding a decapitated head, his immediate arrest should supersede babysitting a gang picnic or funeral. Violent robbery offenders should fall into that category as well.
8/31/2023 10:00:00 AM
Apples and oranges. I’m sure 699 was instructed by her superiors to monitor the gang picnic. I could be wrong but that wasn’t her call. That order came from up top due to the recent mass shootings at funerals and in other districts. Retaliation are at and all time high. The tact teams and their supervisors were down and in various locations. The CAPS officers are down and at different events with churches, community leaders,etc. I’m sure she barely had enough officers on the street to back each other up. The sheets are short in every district, but you know that already because we posted a full forum about that.
Nothing will happen to him they cover for their own Merit creations…. Sweep it under the rug..
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