CPD Brass F#$%ed Up? (UPDATES)
Protests the other day resulted in SDI and Special Employment cars being called downtown to assist in clearing the streets and sidewalks:
- More than 100 people were arrested Monday morning during a protest at the Ogilvie Transportation Center in downtown Chicago, where hundreds of Jews from across the Midwest gathered to demand an immediate ceasefire in Gaza.
The trouble is (or might be) that this was the first mass arrest situation under the brand new Illinois Safety Act auspices and the CPD brain trust leaders may have gotten it.....slightly wrong - according to a commentator:
- Funny, I was just thinking about this too as the hot topic at my sisters law firm is about the impending lawsuits against the arresting officers after the hundred-plus arrests of protesters in 001 this week. None of the protesters were charged with anything detainable, yet they were all long formed instead of receiving a pre trial notice and sent on their way. I strongly suggest anyone given an unlawful order by a stupidvisor to lock someone up when they clearly qualify for the SAFETY ACT release, document this illegal order by putting it on the air and obtaining an event number. Remember… It’s going to be YOU listing your assets when the lawsuits for unlawful arrest, civil rights violations etc. start coming down the pike.
One would think that perhaps a high ranking exempt:
- who spent the majority of his career at the Police Academy,
- who was teaching Use of Force between chasing tail,
- who was presented for years as THE Department's Use of Force expert at numerous trials,
- who was so smart, he didn't have to pass a single promotional exam,
...might want to make sure that his staff is correctly following the dictates of State Law in high profile, high visibility, high potential downside and high liability for the Officers and City taxpayers.
And the FOP might want to see if a large number of their members are now on the hook for bad Department decisions.
UPDATE: We're aware of the Orders.
We're also aware that the Department hasn't written a completely airtight and comprehensive order in its entire history. Lawyers LIVE to play in the gray areas and margins....that's how they make "new law."
You know how we know this? Federal Court. Not once, not twice, but counting all the authors here about a dozen times. What a lawyer won't do to get a "civil rights" case in front of a Federal Court as a "class action".....let's just say we've seen south side prostitutes with higher moral compasses than lawyers.
How many mass arrests lawsuits are still going on years later? You think this one will be any different? Arrestees getting a couple thousands of dollars and the law firms getting millions....and then dumping it right back into campaign coffers of Illinois politicos.
Be aware of history, because even if it isn't repeating, it rhymes.
UPDATE #2: A concerted effort by a couple posters to say "Since the behavior was going to continue, they had to be arrested/removed." Good point...if you got each individual refusal on body camera. Every single time.
Remember, you have to be perfectly consistent in your arrest execution 100% of the time. One slip up and the lawyers will have you in court for years. Like we said, lawyers LIVE to play in the gray area.
Talk to a couple old timers before we all retire. We'll tell you all about it if you listen.
UPDATE #3: Did Crimesha middle the entire Police Department? (from the comments)
- 15 Nov 23 the SA's office sent out a memo to ALL ASA's reading "Declining to Prosecute Peaceful Protestors Amid Global Unrest".
So why was CPD arresting/removing anyone? Crimesha was (once again) making law in contravention of established legislative statutes.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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You can still take them in “if the criminal behavior persists, then an individual can be taken into custody for an offense that they wouldn't be otherwise."
I used to work for cook county department of corrections. If they brought 100 people to my lockup i would get over the radio again and call a 10-1 because in not doing all that work. If I ever show up to work, its not to work. Its to have 98 smoke breaks and plan for the next trip down to the trailer park. My big toe hurts, I probably have the bends, oh well better call off. Cheers!
It's not improper if they were able to articulate that the behavior posed a reasonable threat to the public or that those arrested would likely continue the illegal activity if not physically arrested. Also "Mob Action" is an exception to field release. As long as they were brought to the station, fingerprinted, and issued a station release unless otherwise detainable it wouldn't have violated any guidelines or procedures.
So based on your sisters law firm, police should disobey a direct order? Your a tool, and whoever listens to you, a fool
I would love to see the supervisors held accountable in a lawsuit. There is no justice with supervisors getting investigated by Bureau of internal affairs. BIA only holds blue shirts accountable unless a gold star says otherwise. BIA isn’t shit. Again I hope the clueless supervisors get punitive damages put on them that they are accountable for. Take their homes.
Gonna be a long democratic convention if correct
Behavior likely to continue , long form, release from station . & there are plenty of other reasons to long form regular charges and then let the WOL decide if they are to be further detained to see a judge.
-Man some of you guys that claim to be the police to your friends -can be really dramatic.
and yes I'm a PO.
I worked SDI that day and it’s true we were called there to help process the arrests. We did mass arrest cards and the kids on 001 tact put their names & buttons in box #1 and #2. When we old timers tried to warn them of exactly this possibility the resounding answer was “we’re good, commander Harris and our Lt. did rollcall training, political rally’s fall under a terrorism umbrella”. Oh yeah, the smart old timers omitted their star and beat numbers from the mass arrest cards. You dumbfucks better learn how to say “no boss, that direct order is illegal and I refuse to comply with it”. Then get on the air and get an event number for “refusing an illegal direct order as given by Beat # ______, Sgt/Lt/Cpt/DC _______ to arrest a CTTP offender in violation of Safety Act parameters”.
Charged with a class b or c under the safe t act during a mass arrest situation you are required to release from the station
Most offenses are still arrestable. in this case I'm sure multiple warnings were given and the offenders did not comply. also the behavior was likely to continue if not removed from scene. They still get a release from the station unless LT feels they should be detained to see a judge. i.e bad record or seriousness of crime. people confuse arrest & bond detention. they can still get arrested or ticketed but not sent to county jail or held for court.
Straight out of the order
7. based on credible, articulated evidence, there is high probability the arrestee will continue, return, or restart the offense(s) after the member leaves the scene; or
ooooooo, loookie here a 50# sack of popcorn, just right for watching this show...
There were a handful of lawyers in 001 Tuesday morning greeting the protesters on 17th street who got locked up Monday as they were I bonded and released. There was a buzz, a frenzied air as they huddled up. They were taking pix of star numbers written on their bodies and clothing. Pix of CB numbers that were written on their hands, pix of “injuries”, pix of the I-Bonds. These motherfuckers planned all this, they knew cpd wouldn’t follow protocol. And the stupid assholes in charge took the bait hook, line and sinker. You guys who processed these scam artists better do what you have to to preserve any radio transmissions, emails, etc from any supervisors who ordered you to make these arrests. Not that those things will save your sorry ass when you’re coughing up your assets from punitive damage awards, but it might drag them into the fold to offset just how much you’ll be on the hook for. This is gonna get ugly. Very ugly. Don’t let the supervisors giving the orders to do something illegal walk away without repercussions. Out them. Testify against them. They’ll bury you in a second, beat them to the punch.
I’ve said that since day one.
Once you name our top cop as someone who spent their career as a subject matter expert, and instructing at the academy for almost 2 decades- yet didn’t know the content well enough to pass a single test on rank order score- you are asking for trouble.
Spent more time boning females and bullying the males than studying apparently.
“Superintendent Skirtchaser” was paid his 40 pieces in exchange for his Van Dyke testimony. And he is a perfect yes-man and lapdog at this stage of the game.
We are in for a long few years.
NEVER follow unlawful orders....just because he's a white shirt, does not make him smart.
I understand, protesting, blocking traffic, etc. You get your photo op and beat it after 30 minutes. Everyone knows this. But if you protest for four hours in one single spot sorry but you gotta go to jail. Ain’t nobody got time for that. Sorry not sorry.
What do you expect from the 98% merit command staff. The superintendent legal counsel is going to have to stay up to date on the law and case law. They will then have to really dumb it down to the exempts and spoon feed it to them.
I advise everyone to stay up to date on the forever changing Illinois law and case law, you can’t rely on the department to do this for you!!!
All true.
Department Directives ignored.
Unlawful arrests effected.
State law dismissed, protections under same circumvented by several members of CPD. All at the direction of the Best & Brightest in CPD’s supervisory ranks.
Commander Harris overheard saying (and I quote) “no ANOVs, no release from the scene, EVERYONE gets a CB number, they ain’t coming back in an hour to pull this shit again”.
I wonder if Dave’s next ‘Commander’s Belt’ will be bestowed upon the copper who gets sued punitively for the most coin.
I can’t wait to see what Superintendent Sexualpredator has to say about all this.
Get that popcorn ready.
It’s my understanding that supervisors on scene said they would issue an ANOV in place of an
Arrest in which the offenders declined the said ANOV/Pretrial Slip/Form and would rather be arrested. Which is what happened. If someone declines to sign the pretrial release form, you can long form them. I don’t think the brass fucked up, I think you guys didn’t bother to read the GO and SO.
And the FOP might want to see if a large number of their members are now on the hook for bad Department decisions.
FLOP ain’t gonna do shit. They’re too busy pretending their hard work was the reason behind the contract and why the COLA got sent to Pigsters desk. Graham, Prieb, Murray, Bartlett and the rest of that crew did all the legwork to get things set in motion while JCat was busy getting CR numbers on other POs and black listing people who signed up for OT. Like usual, John takes credit for the hard work of others. They’re also too busy dropping 10s of 1000s of your union dues dollars on window decorations, sprucing up the hall for conventions the members had no say so in, food trucks and trailers used a few times a year (feeding people at ghetto church functions more often than pos) and 50% raises for stipends paid to committee members when they attend monthly meetings. FLOP ain’t got time nor the balls to say anything becuz they’re to busy sucking Snellings aka B.O.F.A’s dick.
This might be the dumbest post since you all started back up. The Safe-T act states plan as day that if you believe the will not correct itself , they may be king formed. This is simple a protest in large group is easily explainable.
"Chicago, where hundreds of Jews from across the Midwest gathered to demand an immediate ceasefire in Gaza."
Jews protecting Hamas! Talk about a Self Cleaning Oven?!?!
Members of Jewish Voice for Peace-Chicago need to experience Gaza firsthand.
Maybe they can bring the Queers for Palestine with them?
Don't worry. There will be plenty of ambo chasing left wing lawyers ready able and willing to sue your assets off.
If none of them had ID s or refused to sign, They are long formed.
Most COPS are stupid, I'll say 90% of them and want to impress
every other STUPIDVISOR for which many get screwed down the road. The city, the department and every individual officer who made an arrest will get sued. This is no mistake, a connected
Lawfirm will get kickbacks for their political contributions. But hey, keep being stupid. After the city settles this class action lawsuit guess where all the money will be sent to? I'll tell you, to their motherland. An easy way to fund their military.
This decision was made by Dep Chief Jon Hein
I am in NO WAY a supporter of the new SAFE T ACT, but I think the commentator needs to brush up on his General Orders. Officers are still able to arrest and then transport offenders to the station to be long formed for ALL offenses. There are 8 reasons according to General Orders, where this is permissible for the "low level" charges that the Act lists. The issue will be is if at least one of those reasons were articulated in the arrest reports for these arrestees. If not, those officers will have problems.
My whole point however is to say that long forming them wasn't necessarily wrong based just off of the limited info the commentor wrote. Hope the coppers come through it unscathed.
Now citizens and the corrupt media will understand why nobody gets arrested with their civil disobedience destroying property etc. Police officers are tired of going through the lawsuit process. The supervisor wants them locked up let them be the complaint the city doesn't back you. The stupid supervisor that ordered the arrest were never the police.
the offense would have continued
I have to disagree with you here. The protesters actions wouldn’t have stopped so they had to be arrested
If activity is going to persist you can place into custody.
SCC, I think you got the new law wrong. If the offender will continue the offense then you can long form arrest. The offenders were not leaving on their own so….
Stupid post. Obviously a protester who is arrested is likely to continue offending after field release and thus quailed for being taken to the station.
To my dad (RIP) years ago. "Dad, my boss is an a** hole"
"That's why he's your boss!"
Leadership, anywhere, everywhere has gone from the best qualified to the token or diversity face. Unqualified, beyond stupid, entitled, for sure!
Retired 11 years ago at 59. I do not envy any working LEO. You are surrounded by idiots - clearly!
The brass fucked it up BIGTIME. All these illegal arrests made directly opposite of GO & State law. All captured on hundreds of cell phones and media cameras. All those arrestees were legit people. All had valid ID. None had warrants. No reason to hold them (even the passive resistors) once processed in 001. CPD got punked - AGAIN. Note to all you jackasses on Tact who went along with Diamond Dave’s (and other supervisors) illegal orders. Make sure you out them when questioning at IAD and then the depositions begins. And start putting all your toys, properties etc in a trust. The ass fucking you’re gonna get without lube in a few years will be a bit more tolerable this way.
When you write into an arrest or case report that you were ordered by supervisor X to place offender into custody for said offense they always get a little nervous. They would call you into the office and suggest you change that phrase. If you didn't then I guess it means we won't be friends, oh well.
I disagree. In the order it clearly states that they are ineligible for the field release if “based on credible articulable evidence there is a high probability the arrestee will continue, return, or restart the offense after the meme we leaves.” The fact that they were given multiple orders to disperse and refused would fall into that category. No need to give all the officers on scene a heart attack over this.
SCC-15 Nov 23 the SA's office sent out a memo to ALL ASA's reading "Declining to Prosecute Peaceful Protestors Amid Global Unrest".
One might want to look at the law. If removing the offender from the scene is necessary to alleviate the situation they can be taken to the station and issued a district release. If they have not been printed before they can be printed and photo’s.
Let’s hope they don’t have good lawyers......wait they were what?!
I believe if you show that a citation won't stop the action you can long form. Not quite sure if you have to actually issue the citation first though.
That's why we have a new 1 hour E-Learning.....LOL I shouldn't be surprised.
Deep Behind Enemy Lines
DBEL
The brass are famous for this. They’ve been doing this to cops for decades. They sit inside giving orders while watching tv and eating, completely isolated from the negative fallout. They never put their orders in writing so they can deny it happened later. Unfortunately the smart veteran officers left so now the new young officers have no one to tell them the brass are going to middle you again.
This is what you get when you continually promote beyond competency level to meet criteria set by incompetent people.
Exhibit A: Not meaning to-pick on this person but this is a prime example and makes the point.
Sharon Boyd is now Lt Boyd. Should never have been ppo Boyd. You really want a person like this making decisions when sh#$&t hits the fan?
. You dumbfucks better learn how to say “no boss, that direct order is illegal and I refuse to comply with it”. Then get on the air and get an event number for “refusing an illegal direct order as given by Beat # ______, Sgt/Lt/Cpt/DC _______ to arrest a CTTP offender in violation of Safety Act parameters”
You first
They can be brought in if it can be articulated that their actions will continue,
Which they would have and it was. They were all given pre-trial district release forms and sent on their way after being processed. No violations of law. Car 46/ car 100/ or car 100x were all placed into box 1 or 2. As far as mass arrests go, this one was probably the most lawful and organized one yet. Lessons were learned the last time DC Hein tried to order a mass arrest.
You mean all that education from St Louis University failed our almighty highly educated white shirts?? No way.
If offenders can still be brought into the station if the behavior is likely to continue, why would the order be illegal? This sounds like bad advice that could lead to insubordination and we saw how that is playing out with the portal nonsense. So, am I to understand that a mob causing a disturbance and refusing to disperse is legal? The new policy is awful but people need to read the order again. With or without the Safety Act idiocy, lawyers always attempt to sue and do this crap after mass arrests. I would think things through very carefully. Lawsuits for nonsense are usually settled or dismissed, but one can remain employed. Disobeying a direct order beef can get one stripped, no-pay status and facing termination.
I was there and the law and GOs were being followed! Stop with stirring the pot! At any protest they are going to sue. That’s what they do so they can keep protesting. Remember the NATO training. Listen I get we hate this job and bosses. But everything was followed according to the law and orders.
The global left has taken over every single american institution, including the entire medical establishment and most christian churches.
The two very large pools of resistance are patrol-level cops and boots on the ground military and if you've been paying attention over the past decade, those two groups are being targeted in a very prominent way by the left. Loyal americans are being forced-out and you know what they are recruiting as replacements will be compliant red-army members when the time comes.
Prosperity has an ugly side: it's call complacency. Most americans have no idea at all what's happening to our once great country and by the time they do, it'll be way too late. Many people say it's too late now. They might well be right.
More Merit Brain Drain.
Some people just get rewarded for being a dumb fuck asshole, i.e. Superintendent Sexualpredator. No wonder people are cynical, apathetic and hate the system.
Anonymous said...
If offenders can still be brought into the station if the behavior is likely to continue, why would the order be illegal? This sounds like bad advice that could lead to insubordination and we saw how that is playing out with the portal nonsense. So, am I to understand that a mob causing a disturbance and refusing to disperse is legal? The new policy is awful but people need to read the order again. With or without the Safety Act idiocy, lawyers always attempt to sue and do this crap after mass arrests. I would think things through very carefully. Lawsuits for nonsense are usually settled or dismissed, but one can remain employed. Disobeying a direct order beef can get one stripped, no-pay status and facing termination.
11/18/2023 09:35:00 AM
Totally agree with this poster. If you try not following an order in this exact scenario, you will get written up for insubordination and at the very least take 30 days, if you’re lucky. This is the most obvious case of where you can and should bring these protesters into the station and long form them. Otherwise, tell me what are we doing here? Are we supposed to just let them take over a building and do nothing. You hit the nail on the head 99.9% of the time SCC, but this post was the .1%.
Original commenter here. Corners WERE cut. All on BWC. Pretrial release from the station if removed from scene because behavior was likely to continue. But NOT HELD OVERNIGHT IF THEY HAD ID/PRINTS CLEARED. Law firm referenced already in process of subpoenaing arrest reports (TIME RELEASED FROM CUSTODY) and records from I-DENT (TIME PRINTS CLEARED). See where this is going? The Brassholes may have articulated why some of these people should’ve been long formed, but they won’t be able to justify not releasing them immediately/in a timely fashion after they were eligible to be. All you keyboard Warriors, talking about how the coppers were within their means to do this need to think things through COMPLETELY. The orders are written ambiguously for a reason. And that reason is to fuck you. And that little piece of paper authored by Kim Foxx?? Well, that’s just the proverbial money shot. I hope the comments about just the supervisors being on the arrest reports is true… It’ll be nice to see them sued punitively.
The Blind leading the Blind......................
“Superintendent Skirtchaser” was paid his 40 pieces in exchange for his Van Dyke testimony. And he is a perfect yes-man and lapdog at this stage of the game.
Did you listen to his complete testimony?
I highly suggest people actually read the law instead of refusing a direct order and ending up with a 15, 30, 90 or eternal day rip. Nothing has changed on the CPD side for the most part. The "detention" as refered to by the law refers to holding or detaining in county awaiting trial. Going off half cocked on the blog is most of the commentators only police experience.
FLOP ain’t gonna do shit. They’re too busy pretending their hard work was the reason behind the contract and why the COLA got sent to Pigsters desk. Graham, Prieb, Murray, Bartlett and the rest of that crew did all the legwork to get things set in motion.
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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Graham was stalling on the contract so he could ask for arbitration just before his re-election campaign. He didn’t endorse Martwick because of his friendship with Amy Kissem so Martwick took us off of the COLA bill.
Prieb was locked in his room writing his book on our time and our dime. When Graham asked my board to approved a publicist I did not know we were paying for Prieb’s ghost writer. Prieb (the Librarian) is the most useless field rep in the history of FOP.
Murray Pat was a boxer and was hit in the head a lot..... Pat has admitted here on he sold his soul to work in the city counsel chambers, enough said. Pat worked less hours than even Aguilar did.
Bartlett has set numerous facebook and SCC records for the most posts in an hour, a day, a week, a month, a year, and a 3 year tenure as a FOP field rep. Likes to stand in front of a mirror a lot.
Speaking of Orders: In case I missed it.
Still WAITING what the department is doing with the duty judge runs when courts are not in session? It was only cancelled months.
Do not get yourself caught up in the mass arrest nonsense from some clueless blowhard boss. You will be the one that pays for it in the end...
https://chicago.suntimes.com/2022/12/20/23519765/unjustified-arrest-exposed-failures-in-cpd-response-to-unrest-george-floyd-killing
Everything I've seen written about the the Pretrial Fairness Act including things on the social activist and special legal interest group pages all allow for Officer discretion when determining if behavior poses a threat to public safety and what would normally be a citation and field release needs to be a long form and station release. That leaves it pretty wide open to interpretation and it would not be hard for anyone to articulate why an unruly disruptive member of a large demonstration crowd who refuses multiple orders to disperse would pose a threat to public safety. Will lawyers always try to find a loophole into the deep pockets of the city? Absolutely! Does it make sense to violate a boss' direct order that is inherently legal and proper on a kinda sorta possible maybe down the road? Absolutely not
I worked downtown for a long time. I’ve been a part of these mass arrests more times than I care to admit. Been named in the lawsuit twice. I don’t care how right legally you think you are. You can write the Supervisor’s name and star all over that arrest and case that gave the order. Guess who the one is that will be up on the stand testifying at the trial? Should they even find the slightest hiccup in the evidence presented, and I mean these judges are looking to fumble the ball, then case dropped! Guess who then goes down to 35th Street to pick up their Subpoena for the pending lawsuit. Guess who is then sitting by themselves, without the Supervisor who gave the order, giving a nice deposition in the fancy high rises downtown? The white shirts do not come along for the ride.
Bring back Sgt Dowling
Per orders of……. R/O saw no circumstances leading to this arrest.
"Original commenter here. Corners WERE cut. All on BWC. Pretrial release from the station if removed from scene because behavior was likely to continue. But NOT HELD OVERNIGHT IF THEY HAD ID/PRINTS CLEARED. Law firm referenced already in process of subpoenaing arrest reports (TIME RELEASED FROM CUSTODY) and records from I-DENT (TIME PRINTS CLEARED). See where this is going? The Brassholes may have articulated why some of these people should’ve been long formed, but they won’t be able to justify not releasing them immediately/in a timely fashion after they were eligible to be. All you keyboard Warriors, talking about how the coppers were within their means to do this need to think things through COMPLETELY. The orders are written ambiguously for a reason. And that reason is to fuck you. And that little piece of paper authored by Kim Foxx?? Well, that’s just the proverbial money shot. I hope the comments about just the supervisors being on the arrest reports is true… It’ll be nice to see them sued punitively."
How many Mass Arrests have you processed start to finish? It takes a lot of time to process 100 Arrestees. It takes extra time since in my experience, every single one wants to speak with a lawyer prior to being processed or being willing to sign any documents(pretrial station release form), so that's an awful lot of Arrest reports to create and approve, Fingerprints and photographs to do(with limited staff mind you), an awful lot of phonecalls within 3hrs, an awful lot of Attorney Visitation forms and inventories of such(with again, limited desk staff), call after call after call at the desk that interrupts the paperwork process, people coming in to the desk to file complaints, and a whole lot of paperwork to print up that we may or may not have enough paper on hand to print on(potential station assignment)... you get the picture right? It takes hours and hours and hours without ANY intentional delay. This can and would all be articulated at court or in a deposition.
Commander Harris has a load of championship belts to give out.
The Bard: First, we kill all the lawyers......
Anonymous said...
SCC-15 Nov 23 the SA's office sent out a memo to ALL ASA's reading "Declining to Prosecute Peaceful Protestors Amid Global Unrest".
11/18/2023 08:23:00 AM
This is pay dirt right here. Wait til Lovey-Lovey puts together a case with this info. Not to mention the E Learning you all just click “mark as completed”. You have been trained and are now responsible for knowing and following these orders and youre culpable for when things go sideways. Like mentioned, these orders and purposely ambiguous and written by people with no time or experience on the job and then proofread and given the green light by hack lawyers hired by the city. It’s set up for failure by design. And you are all pawns in the game. I seriously hope it’s supervisors with their tits in the wringer. Long overdue where their collective stupidity gets put on blast.
Yes sirrrrrr!!!! There is absolutely no coincidence that first amendment e-learning is now waiting for everyone to complete. They fucked up and they know it and now they’re back pedaling trying to do damage control. too little, too late. Spin spin spin!!! The classic CPD defense. Never proactive, always reactive. And the asshole gold stars running this clown show will never figure it out.
This is just a warm up to next year’s DNC. Can’t wait to hear the gnashing of teeth and floods of tears as the convention gets closer. Those “in charge” will be showing they’re true (useless and incompetent) colors.
Anonymous AXEMAN009 said...
I used to work for cook county department of corrections. If they brought 100 people to my lockup i would get over the radio again and call a 10-1 because in not doing all that work. If I ever show up to work, its not to work. Its to have 98 smoke breaks and plan for the next trip down to the trailer park. My big toe hurts, I probably have the bends, oh well better call off. Cheers!
11/18/2023 12:18:00 AM
If you ever worked there then you know there is no 10-1 in CCDOC
We are all fuck come the DNC next August. The professionals are already planning and reading our GOs.
Ah, the good old days of gas teams. Driving around clearing street corners.. fun times.
First amendment rights Refresher e-learning training uploaded 4 days ago
First amendment rights G02-02
Memebers will not:
Arrest any persons engaged in First Amendment conduct for minor or petty offenses, including traffic or business offenses, or those that pose no immediate threat to the safety of the community, or others, or of causing property damage
Just don’t call the hall and ask for me specifically for guidance on this matter.
Because if it doesn’t have to do with ordering food for committee meetings or ripping lame jokes during awards presentations, I’m as useless as a bag of dicks to a lesbian.
Gotta run! Mom wants me to collect all my soiled undies for Sunday Laundry Day.
that pos is more of a public defender than an actual public defender
Reminded of tyrant prickster presser talking about his gun ban and the 92 Illinois counties saying they'll refuse to enforce it...
prickster "...officers don't get to pick and choose which laws they will enforce....they took an oath.."
Global unrest????
Multiple verbal warnings were given. The warning were video recorded. Protesters were blocking ingress and egress to the sidewalks and buildings. Class b or c, mob action is required to be released from the station. They posed a threat to others safety. The brass did nothing wrong.
If you ever worked there then you know there is no 10-1 in CCDOC
Old jail guard here...ALL AVAILABLE
Leadership, anywhere, everywhere has gone from the best qualified to the token or diversity face. Unqualified, beyond stupid, entitled, for sure!
Retired 11 years ago at 59. I do not envy any working LEO. You are surrounded by idiots - clearly!
11/18/2023 08:00:00 AM
That's bullshit! Cline wasn't the best neither was his kid & his whole tac team when they got promoted! Tbe "token" merit folks are not the only bad ones. For years white people were made boss using merit and were just as bad! The only thing that changed is the complexion! Same bad boss
A dead lawyer is only good lawyer. Nothing but blood sucking leeches.
I think those of us who corrected the original commenter already knew full well that the asshole lawyers would already be lined up preparing the lawsuits and might even collect some $$ in the end since the City settles all the time. Hell, cops get sued the most mundane crap. However, it still doesn't negate the fact that if protocols were in fact followed, the arrests were legal on their face. Claims of holding them longer than necessary? I guess that will be determined at a later time
"Talk to a couple old timers before we all retire. We'll tell you all about it if you listen."
How many will actually do that?
If you were there then you know this was a peaceful crowd. The arrests were in violation of the 1st Amendment. You get what you promote. Thankfully SDI was there and all that veteran experience.
Bartlett has set numerous facebook and SCC records for the most posts in an hour, a day, a week, a month, a year, and a 3 year tenure as a FOP field rep. Likes to stand in front of a mirror a lot.
11/18/2023 11:58:00 AM
Anonymous J. Backstabvich@541 said... I'm trying to beat Bob's record for posting om company time... But I do have to take several lunch breaks ....
prickster "...officers don't get to pick and choose which laws they will enforce....they took an oath.."
11/18/2023 06:27:00 PM Hey Gov Try explaining that to FOXX who seems to just make up the law the way she wants to. The police are just taking a lesson created by her. Wake up the game is rigged and were not part of it. She should have been bounced long ago but the liberals'and police haters voted her and Johnson in and got what they deserve,chaos,and high taxes. Now that gives they something more to complain about as the city folds up shop. Enjoy trying to sell your downtown properties at a discount maybe.
Pat Murray was not a boxer. He was a born and bred Bridgeporter who always thought he was an insider in 11 ward. They felt sorry for him and put him in at city hall. He got lucky and won an fop spot and it went to his head. He developed Fopitis and enjoyed the trappings of fop life good money easy hours credit cards etc. i know he helped out coppers and engineered the exit of herbert and brought in tim grace which is a huge upgrade. Dont be too hard on they guy
Lot of pros and cons here, but I guess we will just have to wait and see how it plays out.
Key word is lawful order. If a supervisor gives you an unlawful order, you don't have to follow it.
I can't believe that the almost all merit, or cheating, exempts we have as our command staff would mess something up. I believe the answer is more merit promotions.
prickster "...officers don't get to pick and choose which laws they will enforce....they took an oath.."
11/18/2023 06:27:00 PM
To uphold the Constitution of our Republic of States thus United.
Pukey Porky omits a lot....
Once again, all at the hands of supervisors who never earned a promotion. Harris couldn’t pass one test on his own, neither could the supe. Yet, you have them barking orders (which they never read). Merit ruins the department over and over again, however, still no changes.
025th District Unit Representative screws over whole district out of overtime with Grievance because lazy senior police officers get bumped off for no activity and quota driven Lt gives rookies the overtime. There is no Leadership as citizens wait hours at the district desk and in the streets for police services. Somebody call a 10-1 cause this City is out of control and in a death spiral.
What anonymous said at 10:30 AM his profound.
The 1st district has the best commander to ever put on the gold star. He leads from the front and makes arrest with his officers. He also makes sure that everyone puts him box 1 and no second arresting since he is a true leader and would never throw anyone under the bus. Glad to have him on our side. You can trust if he’s out there then things will be done well, efficiently, legally, and safely. Buy a ticket to his Christmas party and find out, 100 dollars, free if you’re willing to be a side chick. Same can be said of any commander and any chief on this job. They lead from the front and are the first to go hands on and put cuffs on an offender. We have the best leadership, only those with integrity have been promoted. You can sleep well at night knowing CPD leadership has your back and will put their own names/careers on the line if things go south before they would ever let a blue shirt take the fall.
Pat Murray Resume
1.) Never a boxer his father was and a corpsman during World War ll.
2.) 11th Ward resident who never got promoted meritoriously .
3.) Worked in Englewood first four years and Deering after .
4.) Commander in 001 asked him to work in City Hall when an opening happened.
5.) forty four cr numbers nine for false police reports , in custody deaths , beating neighbors or medical abuse .
6.)Never had a credit card at the FOP .
7.) Had the balls to get rid of Herbert after he represented three cops in court who went to jail .
8.) Confronted Lightfoot when she fired four cops in Van Dyke police board case .
9.) mediated over two hundred cases prior to them going to the Police Board .
10.) Put together the Kim Foxx and Rahm Emanuel protest .
11.) Told John Catanzara he was not qualified and did not run with him .
12.) Never made a complaint against another cop .
12.) Was not “allowed “ to be a delegate for 2023 FOP National Convention .
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