Illinois Shrinking?
Not just population if voters ever get this on the ballot:
- Some say the southern Illinois boundary line should be changed so
that eight downstate counties can become part of Missouri. Illinois
Attorney General Kwame Raoul disagrees.
People in downstate Illinois have always felt more of a kinship with neighboring red states like Missouri, Kentucky and Indiana than they do with Chicago. In 2021, the idea of dividing Illinois into two states got some traction from supporters in 27 of Illinois’ 102 counties.
The New Illinois movement was inspired by West Virginia’s break from Virginia in 1863 during the Civil War. When Virginia seceded to form the Confederacy, West Virginia broke off to remain with the Union as a separate state.
Eric Ivers of Jerseyville, a Jersey County Board member, sympathizes with the Illinois counties that want to become a new state. However, he thinks it is more feasible to move the boundary between Jersey County and a handful of like-minded downstate counties so that they can be part of Missouri.
Of course, the chances of this actually happening are next-to-zero. but it hints at the disconnect downstate has from Chicago's dominance of state politics.
Labels: state politics
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
38 Comments:
Isn’t down south where assman 009 has his property
Over the past few years, there have been similar, serious attempts to split CA, WA, OR too (I believe), at least. FL and GA in past decade. MN the year after the cleansing fires of St George of Floyd. Several other states within the past generation have at least half-assed this idea. Balkanization, here we come. Not sure I want to be around for that particular party.
The chances maybe next to zero but they need to try.
Can we trade Saint Louis to Illinois for Jersey County?
How about just giving KC MO to Kansas too?
Hopefully Idaho will soon have Pacific Coastline.
10 MT on Chicago, and Illinois becomes a Red State.
The City of Chicago + Crook County = the State of Illionois is fucked.
Prove me wrong.
Fixing it is easy, just create a border dispute and a federal court case surrounding the selected counties.
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1992/10/14/After-174-years-Illinois-Kentucky-reach-agreement-on-border-dispute/6620719035200/
Imagine.
Crook County becomes the new Sovereign State of Crook.
The rest of Illinois becomes the Sovereign State of True Illinois.
The quantity of House of Representives for the former diminishes a bit.
The quantity of House of Representatives for the latter diminishes a shit ton.
Effectively, an even trade.
Practically, a gift from God.
Socially, a shedding of parasites most beneficial to the latter and quite bothersome to the former.
Then, the problem would be controlling/vetting the exodus from the former to the latter.
Dupage, Lake and Will counties would become the buffer zones.
The ensueing antics would null the value of any reality tv.
And the abundance of eager videographers would be setting the web blogs on fire.
What a time it would be, to still be alive!
It is a constitutuonaly succeding, new state forming movement, with legitimacy and rights.
California is close. There are several other states doing it as well.
Of our 102 counties in Illinois, 42 of us are united under the constitutional method.
34 other counties are trying their own thing.
New Illinois is trying to get those united with us.
I have contact info or can get it for about anywhere. Hell Cook and Lake residents are in on this.
We are currently convening our 4th Constitutional Convention.
Like you rights? Get on board, this is another way to keep those rights.
Leave Illinois Without Moving – Demand a New State
New Illinois is a nonpartisan, nonprofit organization with the mission of educating Illinoisans about their right, under the U.S. Constitution, to pursue the formation of a new state.
https://newillinoisstate.org/
Bidenomics FEMA Weaponize
Florida has been gaining so much population empowering the red state that the Brandon admin had to find a way to make FLa less desirable so...
.FEMA's new flood insurance rates to soar in Florida, see how much ...
May 4, 2023
In the most expensive ZIP code for flood insurance in South Florida — 33149, which covers Key Biscayne — average premiums will rise north of $7,000 a year. How your costs compare Type in your...
Texas too ...We'er sure it's just a coincidence tho right?
88% of Florida homeowners to see higher flood insurance rates
Apr 26, 2022
Those six states are Texas, with 89% facing price increases for premiums, and Florida at 88%, Mississippi at 87%, Alabama with 85%, West Virginia at 84%, and Louisiana at 83%. Redfin said that...
That'll fix them from getting more electoral votes due to population increases
US Census estimates reports Cook County population has declined 3.1% between April 2020 and July 2022. We lost 166,230 residents. Gonna need a lot more illegal immigrant buses to make that loss up
Think about that. Cook Co. lost over 166 thousand people and they can't find places to put 20,000 illegal immigrants so thousands of dollars need to be spent on enriching politically connected property owners via camps GTFOH
https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/cookcountyillinois/PST045222
It's not just Cook county either
In the list of top 100 most populated counties in the USA Illinois holds four spots. Three of the four show population decline estimates Cook -3.2%, Dupage -1.3%, Lake -0.7& Will Co is up +0.1%
On the other hand If you're looking for a career move to counties that are growing Montgomery County in Texas is up +9.4%, Collin Co. Tx +8.9%, Polk Co. Fla, +8.6%
Which has the potential for better career advancement a county shrinking by -3.2% or a county growing by 8-9% you think?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_the_most_populous_counties_in_the_United_States
And you think it's a coincidence that the people north of Richmond used massive FEMA flood insurance increases thereby pushing up housing costs to slow/stop the migration?
FEMA Prolly part of Bidens Inflation reduction act cuz you know everything they say is the exact opposite
Illinois as a whole lost 248,600 residents since 2010 US Census estimates. However more (so called conspiracy) replacement theory illegal immigrants are on the way to offset those losses while FEMA is pushing up housing flood insurance costs in the red states.
And by the way have you seen the FEDERAL grant programs for commercial real estate conversions to stem the out flows from blue cities?
White House Aims to Fast-Track Commercial Conversions
Oct 30, 2023The Biden administration seeks commercial property conversions that can create "much-needed housing that is affordable, energy efficient, near transit and good jobs and reduces greenhouse gas emissions—nearly 30% of which comes from the building sector," according to a Wh
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Commercial-to-Residential-Conversions-Guidebook.pdf
Population control
Perhaps they shouldn't have murdered all those people with the Corona sickness and the so-called "safe and effective" bullshit that followed and is still on-going killing millions more. Epidemiologist must be gagged refusing to say anything about the excess deaths going on.
The plan prolly buried in the New Green Deal somewhere cuz you know humans are responsible for global warming so the more they take out the better the planet.
Besides with AI automation and robotics we just don't need people to fight wars and make goods anymore. Automation is more obedient and does not question the authority
South of the city of Champaign home to u of I people despise Chicago and the hood that it has become
We're Building Back Better from the bottom up and the middle out don't you see it? /sarc
This Washington Guidebook showing the billions of taxpayers dollars going to commercial real estate developers/owners to convert their properties to residential use. Massive tax break incentives to the so-called people Biden/Harris is making "pay their fair share".
Betcha the commercial Brighton Park illegal immigrant camp qualifies for these grants and many of the migrant shelters too!
Check it out. They've dressed it up with all the fancy labels and talking points.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/Commercial-to-Residential-Conversions-Guidebook.pdf
When you're done with that try a search for
commercial conversion to residential
to see the money being handed out to save the Blue cities
In US History, there have only been TWO(2) changes to State Borders. SCC mentioned West Virginia being created from Virginia in 1863, during the Civil War. In 1820, Maine was created from Massachusetts. During the Colonial Era and the first years of the Republic, Maine was a County of Massachusetts.
Southern Illinois is so pretty but I wouldn't live there because, well, it's still Illinois....
The better option is to totally move out of Illinois which I'm doing because I just retired from this shithole of a city!
Remember when Oh-bla-bla gave everyone (except Illinois) a temporary payroll tax break? Illinois didn't get one because gov. prickster immediately increased state taxes to take it all away. Google it!
So now take a look at the federal grant and tax incentives to convert commercial buildings into apartments and blowies plans for a real estate transfer tax in chicago
Follow the money
Commercial Properties Would Bear The Brunt Of Transfer Tax Increase, New UChicago Analysis Shows
Bisnow|20 days ago
Sales of nonresidential properties would account for about 75% of the increased revenue generated by the Bring Chicago Home real ... apartment buildings and commercial properties," the authors ...
Editorial: Owners are scrambling to unload high-profile buildings. Is this backlash to Mayor Johnson's 'mansion tax'?
Chicago Tribune|13 days ago
since it mainly hits commercial property owners — is designed to generate around $100 million in yearly revenue for programs to alleviate homelessness in Chicago. Commercial real estate ...
Biden opens up funding for residential conversions — a sign of hope for downtown projects
https://www.chicagobusiness.com/politics/joe-biden-opens-funds-commercial-residential-projects
converting commercial buildings into residential chicago
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=converting+commercial+buildings+into+residential+chicago&t=raspberrypi&ia=web
City of Chicago :: City Selects Three LaSalle Street Adaptive Re-Use ...
Mar 28, 2023CHICAGO — Three proposals to create more than 1,000 mixed-income apartments at 111 W. Monroe St., 135 S. LaSalle St., and 208 S. LaSalle St. in the Loop were announced by Mayor Lori E. Lightfoot today as finalists for City financial assistance through the LaSalle Reimagined initiative.
Some neighborhoods in the city need to do the same, why not "gated communities" with their own laws to prevent the felons from attacking the peaceful people? This city and state and totally unacceptable to a lawful citizenry. Unless something bad and evil happens to a politicians family nothing happens as we are all lemmings that are unprotected. Again how many soldiers err valets err police does Brandon,Kim,JB,Toni,Tommy and the rest have-on their expansive details?
Want to be sure they are aloof and protected so they are clueless what the people deal with every day every hour!
Brandon you were brought up in a church home you say, the bible talks about protecting people are you following biblical principles?
They want to be aligned with normal people.
When you hear about Illinois losing population, the 2020 census shows that it's all downstate, where conservatives are moving out. The same census shows that the collar counties to Chicago are gaining population, with unfortunately most of those people being liberal and turning the suburbs into mini-Chicagos. So Illinois will be deep blue for a very long time, and will continue to go into the toilet.
Discontent folks in at least 12 Oregon counties want to join Idaho.
From the site listed below, "To actually change state borders would require an act of Congress and approval from state legislatures in both states, but the county votes act as a gauge of interest. Organizers behind the “Greater Idaho” movement say their cause is a long shot, but the group now has seen 12 Eastern Oregon counties voted in favor of measures about the proposal". https://www.deseret.com/2023/6/12/23754682/greater-idaho-split-oregon
Can't see Congress and approval from state legislatures in both states approving the switch to Idaho or the switch to Missouri. But worth a try.
Would be less Misery for folks in the selected Illinois counties in Missouri than their permanent state of misery called Ill-inois. Southern Illinois is a very pretty area.
I can’t wait to leave this God forsaken state for good in a few months.
Big demand to annex Cairo.
Most non-coastal states (and even several coastal ones) would love to cut a section out around their Blue-city majorities and form a separate state from them.
Teletubby won 2 less Counties than Blago did in his second term. yet the Dems tell the world how much teletubby is revered in Illinois.
Never happen.
FLEE ILLINOIS to a solid Red State!!
People are leaving to make more room for the governor's belly and ass.
If you look at a election map of Illinois The only areas Blue have an abunDUNCE of minorities. The rest is Red.
Got a note from a guy at work asking about property taxes in Indiana. We're not friends, but he talked today at the office. His Taxes went from 8000 five years ago to 13000. He's dying, has his kids in private school too. The teachers unions are bleeding home owners dry and they can't even send their kids to the schools. The unions will drip the last drop of blood out of the working class. Good luck. You people stay there, quit polluting other parts of the country. You built it, you live it
I am liking my trips to the Missouri DMV much more than Illinois SOS.
For my ol 2011 Chevy pickup: Plates for 2 years $78.50
Trailer for boat and a camper trailer: Permanent trailer plates for $58.50 each
New or corrected vehicle titles: $14.50
No FOID crap. Buy a gun and leave the store with it.
Who cares what that loudmouth moron Kwame says? Tell him "We identify as Missouri now", then file the papers for secession from Illinois and merge with Missouri.
Let the SHTF and the games begin. Make it so as many people as possible know what's happening, what they did, and how they did it. Get about 30 border counties to start doing this and watch the Democrats lose what little is left of their minds...
Can’t really blame them. I would support them. Just as I would support anyone doing anything positive!
Chicago is at the bottom of a hill. That's why all those Illinois tax dollars roll that way.
Everything outside Cook County should be a different state.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Isn’t down south where assman 009 has his property
11/28/2023 12:13:00 AM
He owns the most expensive home in the state of Wisconsin.
South of I80!
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