"Merit" List Tossed?
Supposedly, the multiple "merit" supernintendo rejected a pending "merit" list. Details are sketchy, but new names have been requested.
We remember a few years back, being amazed that dead and retired commanders were still getting recommendations through the screening process.
So was there an embarrassing name on this list or as some commentators suggested, the lists weren't "diverse" enough for Conehead, the Consent Decree people or some other agency?
Labels: promotions
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
137 Comments:
Why go through this whole process when this merit list will only be up for 1 or 2 classes max?
A Merit List?
Sounds like the Soviet Union and their Nomenklatura.
Does this mean we wont get a Lt Doucherst? Were stuck with this retard at CTA until he can pass a test in his own? Please Daddy DeVries, promote this bald beatoff already
They need to get rid of merit completely. 99% of merit are incompetent and political hacks. It is also single handedly the main contributor that leads to all other problems in this department. Imagine where all these gold stars would be without merit? In a blue shirt being useless on the watch. FACTS
Before David Brown left he made his driver a merit Sgt. That individual was not only the third tier of the list, but he was the lowest ranked merit selection on the list after the interviews were conducted. Whenever a department member is selected for merit promotion they are interviewed and placed into a three tiered ranking system based upon their answers to the merit board (why anyone other than tier one would ever be selected for merit promotion is beyond comprehension). Whenever a person is selected from a lower tier for merit promotion, the above tier is closed and no further promotions can be made from those higher tiers. So when Brown made his awful choice to have the lowest ranked merit selection promoted to sergeant , he fucked everyone over by allowing only tier three merit picks to be eligible for merit selection moving forward (he wasn’t going to have to suffer the ineptitude so why should he give a fuck?). The results have been predictable as the merit picks from the last few classes have been as bad as you can get, and now one has to wonder if the merit picks are that bad going into maybe one or two classes before the new test is graded or if the merit list would exceed the third tiers numbers, and result in less than 30 percent merit being able to be utilized (God forbid promotions be made based on rank order if the merit list were to be closed out). The merit system needs to be changed and the unions need to step up and demand it.
I don’t have a dog in this race, but HQ sources stated that… ‘Ol Dave Brown once had a driver. That driver was tier 3 merit. Brown cried to get him made not knowing how the “tiers” worked. Corey Hatter was made last spring off this current list. The problem was that ‘Ol Corey was from tier 3 of the merit ranking. “Bosses” told Brown that Corey couldn’t be made because tier 1 still had candidates. Brown threw a fit and ultimately got his way. Corey getting pushed through meritoriously meant that the list for tier 1 and tier 2 candidates was now depleted since a candidate from another tier was picked. I guess that’s why the ranking is always kept quiet. Requesting NEW packets already??? That’s never happened, especially for an active list which confirms the aforementioned to be true. Merit… used for nepotism and the way it currently is used… is a fuckin joke! I couldn’t even imagine the remaining tier 3 candidates are very bright or of any use on this job so they need a new list. Probably some bad seeds left on that tier 3 list? Any way to FOIA merit, tiers, and/or lists? God help us all!!!
Talk about merit and feeling like you're entitled, found out from friends at unit 050 that some young entitled p.o. felt that he and his family needed to be treated like royalty bc he allegedly knew the boss. When he got called out and turned out that the boss didn't know him, this no time idiot felt like he was dizzed and emailed higher ups. So thanks to this hair gel idiot, future courtesy parking will no longer be available. We are our worst enemy, or should I say these young no nothing's, are our worst enemy. Beware of the hair jello, they are the new karens
DEI is the name of the game, we must appease.
What are the qualifications for getting a spot on the list?
Do you have to submit a copy of your family tree?
Apparently a lot of people (myself included) got calls from their supervisors simply asking if they took the last sgt’s test and that was it. Had no idea why but now I see this article and it makes sense.
Perhaps, the Supe realized that the candidates on the list came from the same sponsors that promoted the current exempts that he’s stuck with. Yes, trash it! Promote hard workers, not folder pushers.
So I still got a chance lolololol
Ding ding ding!!! I work at HQ and sadly to say that it’s true that the department promoted a vast majority (all) of African American/black officers that were on the merit list, therefore there isn’t enough African American/black officers left on the merit list. City council and the black caucus would have been in an uproar to why not enough African Americans/blacks were NOT promoted if a new class would have been made with the current test score list and merit list included. The department should get rid of the merit process as whole and make the testing process and promotion process legit.
Just merit sergeants list for now. It’ll be a full blown DEI list. The chosen ones will be groomed for their next merit promotion. The goal is an all DEI command staff.
Mayor Johnson gave us a decent contract. I saw that bug eyed beetle on TV yesterday and she made my blood boil. Maybe it’s not so bad. We are in the most hard core democratic city basically.
Word is not enough POC on list.
I forgot, who, but we had a short time police superintendent, who was eliminating merit nonsense all together, that’s why we have so many stupid supervisors promoted, especially the exempt ranks which nobody respects the police officers on the department unless they have somebody that needs something then they can act like they respect them but as soon as they turn their backs, then we laugh at them because it’s nothing but a clown show! Respect starts at the top if you don’t respect the top of the command structure, you don’t respect any of them simple as that look at the amount of money we’re making now we’re making more money than ever. Just look laugh leave enjoy the show. What other job can you work at where you can basically do whatever you want and want to do with no responsibility ?
FUCK merit and FUCK each name that’s on merit! Pass a test and get promotes, what’s so difficult with that concept? That’s the way it’s done in every modern day police dept except for the most corrupt Chicago Police Dept.
(OT) let’s follow the science as the liberals pos always says to do;
CHINAStudy confirms China has mutated coronavirus cousin that affects brain, kills 100% of study mice
https://saraacarter.com/study-confirms-china-has-mutated-coronavirus-cousin-that-affects-brain-kills-100-of-study-mice/
Now for people that say this could be tinfoil hat, nonsense nope just like the China virus that came upon us. This is a lot more lethal without any doubt just when will it be unleashed probably right around election time so they can postpone the election. The Democrats will do anything to destroy America. Just like all the illegals pouring and pouring in all over the place. What kind of diseases are they carrying? And they’re going to the Chicago public schools and they are not vaccinated for anything that’s why we’re seeing diseases that we eradicated reemerging, how much can people hate this country to destroy this country?
I would find it hard to believe the list isn't diverse enough. LL demanded POC for merit or the Commander and above wouldn't be promoted or possibly demoted. Anyone who says otherwise is full of Shi!. The current merit lists were made under the last Mayor and Superintendent, so that could be the problem. I heard yesterday the same thing this thread states in that LS wasn't happy with the merit list and wanted more names. I"m a test score Sgt who didn't score in the top 150 (shame on me) for Lt. I put my resume in for merit. I'm not POC, both selections from the Commander were 1's.
The other possibility is age discrimination. Rumors are floating around that LS, Conehead, and other people in the decision making process don't want anyone past a certain age being promoted by merit. Merit is to be reserved for those who have a future with the department. We've all seen merit promotions of people over 50 who retired a year or two later. I remember seeing a merit Lt who was in their 60's. Most of those didn't even get the full pay bump in their pension. The department doesn't want people collecting a check in management. I understand that thought process but the majority of department regardless of age has basically quit doing any police work. Go figure.
IAD Sergeant YW just started command school at Northwestern. She wouldn't have made Lt on her own and needs merit. Rumor has it that she is friends with the former supt who was passed out drunk in his car. Get her out of IAD, the way she bosses the POs around like a queen and goes out of her way to screw POs in her cases, while kissing the asses of the bosses and trying to talk like a rich white girl
The timing fits with the new list being made.
This whole merit bullshit is a joke. Take a test and interview and see where you end up just like it should be. But he’s a good officer and not a good test taker, tough shit, work/study harder then. Bring Beck as Superintendent.
OFF TOPIC:
Did anyone else catch what the lockup keeper said to the murder suspect on Chicago P.D.? He told the suspect to get against the wall because he wanted to take his booking photo. That is when the lockup said to him, "jacket off." Which in my head sounded like jack-it-off. Kind of funny. I am sure that the producer, Brian LUCE had something to do with that.
Don't forget a fairly recent meritoriously promoted Lt was nominated by a CONVICTED FELON Kenny Johnson. How the fuck can you pretend we are under a consent decree then allow a merit promotion to go through and publish the nominee's name who is now convicted of a FELONY in Federal Court???
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Talk about merit and feeling like you're entitled, found out from friends at unit 050 that some young entitled p.o. felt that he and his family needed to be treated like royalty bc he allegedly knew the boss. When he got called out and turned out that the boss didn't know him, this no time idiot felt like he was dizzed and emailed higher ups. So thanks to this hair gel idiot, future courtesy parking will no longer be available. We are our worst enemy, or should I say these young no nothing's, are our worst enemy. Beware of the hair jello, they are the new karens
1/19/2024 01:14:00 AM
It only takes one idiot to ruin everything been going on for years and years on the police department someone feels entitled then they feel they didn’t get with somebody else got they go up and then they snitch like a little school girl and this is what happens ruins everything! Same thing happened at Midway ruins, everything!
Comments were good here, learned a lot especially about the tiers. "Hair gels" though, the new karens? Oh how the mind wanders to what the hell they are ...
IAD Sergeant YW just started command school at Northwestern. She wouldn't have made Lt on her own and needs merit. Rumor has it that she is friends with the former supt who was passed out drunk in his car. Get her out of IAD, the way she bosses the POs around like a queen and goes out of her way to screw POs in her cases, while kissing the asses of the bosses and trying to talk like..........
She will screw over cops in a heartbeat. She has screwed over so many cops already. She gave upwards of 30 days to officers. She is disgusting. What I did notice anyone connected to a black boss severely recieved less days than those who weren't connected and black. Look up her statistics on days she has given. I'm not saying she only screwed non black officers but GUARANTEE you those who are black and have clout were punished way less. Please look her stats up if you can. This is the type of person that needs to be exposed because your future might actually end up at her desk. We get battered by the public, COPA, and sadly even our own. If an officer deserved the days then they have what is coming but when officers are working at least have compassion and see it from an officers view. This is hard with her because I'm sure she never worked the streets and only has the POV of a civilian. Sad. I see her fakeness all day at work.
I have the misfortune of being around the new merit Lts in training. That has to be the most pathetic group possible.
Retired but remember back in the day the commander would ask a few if they wanted to be put in for merit. What a joke you had a better chance of seeing pigs fly than get promoted if not connected. CPD is a corrupt organization gold stars and merit stealing money out of the pension.
Seniority and street time should be have merit.
So thanks to this hair gel idiot, future courtesy parking will no longer be available. We are our worst enemy, or should I say these young no nothing's, are our worst enemy. Beware of the hair jello, they are the new karens
Question: aren’t the hair gels in their 40’s now?
Same old corruption unabated. How is it possible that a department as large as ours can publicize its ongoing corruption and no one seems to care?
They should change the topic of "MERIT LIST" to "BUDDY LIST". Its a joke..they ask us to fill out a questionnaire about the promotional process but never heard back on the results and obvioulsy it doesn't matter what we say anyway. Conehead and Camel teeth will do what they want. Fuck Merit, get rid of it. If you cant pass a test then your not QUALIFIED!! Simple as that. On e-learning you need a 70% to pass but yet you need something like 40% to pass a Sgt Exam???
Anonymous said...
“FUCK merit and FUCK each name that’s on merit! Pass a test and get 👉 promotes, what’s so difficult with that concept? That’s the way it’s done in every modern day police dept except for the most corrupt Chicago Police Dept.”
Well I see why you didn’t get promoted !!!!!
Well one day I was bored and found out the majority of the rank and file are Hispanic. Blacks aren’t able or just don’t want this job. This job is getting “lighter” by the year. The Black caucus better get used to it.
Testing well doesn’t mean crap either. When you have people like Patty Casey feeding the exam question's, or answers to the dumbest most connected whites what could go wrong. You get the likes of J. Considine who needed merit to make Sgt. and Lt. What a stoke that guy is.
Aren't most of the white shirts all merit? Many seem to be bumbling boobs.
Years ago when all this started the department was sending some of those newly promoted to remedial reading classes at a junior college. Told to me by one who attended.
I love how we have some crying a river of tears and it’s not fair they didn’t follow some bullshit tiered system. Like the tiered system makes it legit. I am reminding all of you that every merit spot took away from someone who scored better then them on the tests period. There is no legitimate standard for merit but there is a standard for making it off the list.
STUDY AND TAKE THE FUCKING TEST!
YW is a nice lady and dresses to the 9’s. She might not be the brightest, but she’s okay in my book.
This last sergeant test was a horrible mistake by the department. Having the same set of questions over a five-day period. People who took the exam on the first few days did not do as well as the people who took the exam on the last two days. Obviously, the test questions were passed around to everyone giving them enough time to create a response. No wonder the department is rushing to get a new test. Merit in its current form sucks. If it was up to the city, promotions would be 100% merit so they would put people in that would do as they were told. If you want a fair test where none of our command staff can pass out the exam ahead of time. You have to have the test company sit down with our subject matter experts (merit bosses who pass out the test to friends who do not want to be merit). Our SME and the test company will develop 2000 possible test questions that would be appropriate and uncontestable. The department will post the possible 2000 questions and answers that will be on the exam to the entire department as a study guide. On the day of the exam, the test company will randomly select 100 questions that will be on the exam. Not one command staff member will know which questions will be on the exam. Your scantron test will be graded as you walk out the door, and you will be provided a copy of your score. The company will rank score you based on score, seniority, and age tiebreaker. Your results will be mailed to you in two weeks. No one can complain it was not a fair test or that I didn't test well. We all had the questions and answers ahead of time and you have to put in the effort in learning the material.
I love the the comments “Take the Test.” The test in itself was a joke, you tell me how it was fair to administer an oral test over six days. The 2nd part of the test was compromised after the first day. They should have never hired the vendor if they didn’t not have the equipment or resources to administer the test in one day for all the candidates. If you do the math you will see the majority of Sgt’s made off this current list took the test on the day 3,4,and 5 because they had the questions from dummy’s that took it on the first and second day. How does it benefit you by giving the questions to candidates that are seeking the same position. Unreal how stupid some people are. Remember it’s all legit right? Stop crying about the merit process because if you were considered I’d bet my testies you would take the promotion.
Keez me u fool.
former fto & current Sgt J.G from 25 is the reason why merit needs to be allowed to continue. Without him, the watch would be lost and chaotic.
What's with people here not mentioning names or using initials? 99.9% of the readers here have no idea who you are talking about. 100% have no idea who you are so what's the point of posting if you're not going to call them out? Either include names, and perhaps prevent further dumbfuckery from them, or don't post.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
(OT) let’s follow the science as the liberals pos always says to do;
CHINAStudy confirms China has mutated coronavirus cousin that affects brain, kills 100% of study mice
https://saraacarter.com/study-confirms-china-has-mutated-coronavirus-cousin-that-affects-brain-kills-100-of-study-mice/
Now for people that say this could be tinfoil hat, nonsense nope just like the China virus that came upon us. This is a lot more lethal without any doubt just when will it be unleashed probably right around election time so they can postpone the election. The Democrats will do anything to destroy America. Just like all the illegals pouring and pouring in all over the place. What kind of diseases are they carrying? And they’re going to the Chicago public schools and they are not vaccinated for anything that’s why we’re seeing diseases that we eradicated reemerging, how much can people hate this country to destroy this country?
1/19/2024 06:27:00 AM
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The COVID Virus was being transmitted in the Wuhan area in September 2019. Several Canadian Soldiers there for the military games got sick from "a strange flu like disease." They found out it was COVID two years later when they tested some frozen blood samples from the soldiers.
Covid didn't hit the US until February and March, about 6 months after it began, and three months after China had widespread illnesses reported.
So if they are going to use a disease excuse again? Expect it to show up this Summer. Maybe at the DNC Convention? What better place to spread it nationwide and worldwide?
IAD Sergeant YW just started command school at Northwestern. She wouldn't have made Lt on her own and needs merit. Rumor has it that she is friends with the former supt who was passed out drunk in his car. Get her out of IAD, the way she bosses the POs around like a queen and goes out of her way to screw POs in her cases, while kissing the asses of the bosses and trying to talk like a rich white girl
The timing fits with the new list being made.
She stood up in Fenner the cheat’s wedding , worked with her as a sergeant she is dumb as the day is long
IAD is the perfect example of merit being a complete failure. That unit has 4 exempts. Between all of them how many promotions have been obtained through test rank?
Merit=Clout
Merit is nothing more than divide and conquer. Once you are promoted meritorious you have sold your soul to the department, you become the yes man for the department and will do whatever you are told to do by the department because you are greedy and want your next merit bump. Merit equals buying your loyalty, the whole thing is corrupt and needs to be eliminated. Supervisors who are in training should be forced to read the following books, they will be assigned 1 book a week with a test on the book on Friday. If they don’t have a passing score of 80% by the end of training and they are merit they don’t get promoted, if they are not merit they will still get promoted but won’t get a choice of where they want to go at the end of training. And if you are already a supervisor, and want to be a better leader start reading from the list
1.Extreme Ownership by Jocko Willink and Leif Babin
2.Leaders Eat Last by Simon Sinek
3.The 21 Irrefutable Laws of Leadership by John C. Maxwell
4.Dare to Lead by Brené Brown
5.How to Win Friends & Influence People by Dale Carnegie
6.The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People by Stephen R. Covey
7. The Five Dysfunctions of a Team by Patrick Lencioni
8. Start with why by Simon Sinek
9. Leadership and Training for the Fight, MSG Paul R. Howe
10. The Mission, the Men, and Me by Pete Blaber
A philosophic question. Why are all the “merit picks” taken from the back of the list? Are there no meritorious officer from the front of the list? What is the definition of a merit pick ? Why do some officers get up to three merit pics and others get one or none?
Not a PO just a citizen asking?
Bring back Charlie Beck from LA
I’ll note that when Beetlejuice brought in Charlie Beck as interim Supernintendo to take over from Eddie “Take Care of my” Johnson, one of the first things he did (other than demoting Escamerit) was to stop all merit promotions and advise whoever replaced him to also continue that policy. As an outsider he clearly saw what a poison it was to the CPD and city as a whole. Of course Brownie the Clownie reversed Beck’s decision within a few months of taking over and here we are today with a collection of goofs and morons in the senior leadership of the CPD.
Where did the last list of Lieutenants get assigned?
PPP loan scandal. Ooops.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
IAD Sergeant YW just started command school at Northwestern. She wouldn't have made Lt on her own and needs merit. Rumor has it that she is friends with the former supt who was passed out drunk in his car. Get her out of IAD, the way she bosses the POs around like a queen and goes out of her way to screw POs in her cases, while kissing the asses of the bosses and trying to talk like a rich white girl
The timing fits with the new list being made.
She is dumb as a box of rocks, but she lives in 009 near EJ. She used to babysit Nakia Fenner’s son for her and EJ. She can’t seem to keep her own son from committing traffic offenses and she loves to chastise officers when they pull him
over. I’m sure Fred is going to take care of her before he leaves.
Not the first time this has happened. Merit lists were tossed when they weren’t diverse enough. In 2008 the names submitted were all rejected and bosses were told to review the merit process before resubmitting with names that were in line with the goals of the merit program; to increase the number of minority supervisors. No promotions were made off the list as originally submitted. This is not speculation but fact, I was one of the bosses that had to resubmit. When I didn’t resubmit with a different person my guy was tossed off the list. A damn shame what this process has done to the job. Be safe out there.
It’s a new mayor, new superintendent and the turn over rate for bosses is pretty high, or course they are gonna re-up all the merit lists.
So was there an embarrassing name on this list or as some commentators suggested, the lists weren't "diverse" enough for Conehead, the Consent Decree people or some other agency?
Are "new arrivals" eligible for merit promotions? Asking for a friend...
You should the merit hack in my unit. The other Sgts are basically his FTOs he has zero job knowledge, basic language skills, lazy as hell, never did shit as a PO now expects the world out of everyone else. The Merit system needs to be revised.
RET. WHEELGUN COP SAYS:
CPD is an embarrassment
Merit isn't the problem it's a testing system that's flawed beyond belief. You have so called SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS who are privy to the test questions. The SME provides colleagues with test questions. The test doesn't equate to who will be a good supervisor let alone leader. I've always asked if the test is on a level playing field, why can't a member see exactly what the got correct or wrong on any aspect of the test? I've worked for members who scored well and were promoted and merit members who merit promoted. Again scores doesn't always equate to the best person for the position I've seen a person who scored well on the test go to a merit member for guidance. Testing with CPD lacks transparency and is a joke.
The department should get rid of the merit process as whole and make the testing process and promotion process legit.
1/19/2024 04:59:00 AM
The "department" cannot get rid of a process it did not formulate, did not bless, did not put into motion, and does not control.
Are merit sergeants and LTs treated differently? Not that I’ve ever seen. An idiot is an idiot, test or merit.
Off topic but speaking of clouted. Did anyone else see that the firm affiliated with that clown Brown that was hired (and fired) to do our training.......WAS REHIRED LATE LAST YEAR.
There may be a few (or a lot) of officers on that list that are about to get jammed up for their bullshit PPE loan Fraud! Funny thing is that the “powers that be” are upset that they all have something in common…. Hmmmm
OT. Firm tied to ex-police superintendent returns: A Texas firm with ties to former Chicago Police Supt. David Brown is back training officers at Chicago's police academy, less than a year after being dumped by the Chicago Police Department over cost concerns.
Speaking of “tossed,” does anyone have updates about the dispatchers who are about to get launched? Why has no one started a fundraiser? Do the dispatchers have to pay the money back?
Retired in Texas…….
IAD Sergeant YW just started command school at Northwestern.
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The YW you speak of is that petulant turd Yolanda Walton. And she is in internal affairs? The department is sinking in quicksand. She should not be any where near anything that requires a thought process. If she makes lieutenant that just shows how bad the department has gotten.
And btw she is friends with Johnson’s wife or ex wife, what ever she is. She’s also as dumb as a bag of old potatoes. No offense to potatoes.
Why does the dr from eap get a pick?
Most merit detectives realize that they entered a position that requires much more work. Then they go back crying to their clout and demand a spot in the administration, special victims unit, ATC or desk. These are the useless detectives that go prancing around the office with their detective star but they never handled an inbox or do any actual investigative work. Commander Cesario was notorious for chasing out the working detective and bringing in the worthless losers. Congratulations Robert Cesario you’ve ruined Area Three and nobody misses you.
All the white Sgt’s on the list should file a discrimination lawsuit because they made maybe 2 white’s off the list. Some of the F/1’s and M/1’s are so qualified they made exempt already. GTFOH
So thanks to this hair gel idiot, future courtesy parking will no longer be available. We are our worst enemy, or should I say these young no nothing's, are our worst enemy. Beware of the hair jello, they are the new karens
Question: aren’t the hair gels in their 40’s now?
I guess I was considered a hair gel once, I’m 47 now and I don’t use hair gel anymore and I don’t have much hair either.
YW is a nice lady and dresses to the 9’s. She might not be the brightest, but she’s okay in my book.
1/19/2024 09:14:00 AM
Dwayne, is that you?
Yolanda is such an asset to our dept, super talented
https://www.youtube.com/live/zyiBD28Va4I?si=yRYG-Af9jPXfD5WJ
Anonymous said...
Most merit detectives realize that they entered a position that requires much more work. Then they go back crying to their clout and demand a spot in the administration, special victims unit, ATC or desk. These are the useless detectives that go prancing around the office with their detective star but they never handled an inbox or do any actual investigative work. Commander Cesario was notorious for chasing out the working detective and bringing in the worthless losers. Congratulations Robert Cesario you’ve ruined Area Three and nobody misses you.
1/19/2024 04:05:00 PM
Many, many years before Bob, I remember being a new dick at Area 6. Sat thinking, " Now a new world of Policing with new technology,,,wait, that guys a moron. Sos that guy, how did he get to be a cop, let alone a dick. And what's with the chick covered in dog hair"?
former fto & current Sgt J.G from 25 is the reason why merit needs to be allowed to continue. Without him, the watch would be lost and chaotic.
1/19/2024 10:11:00 AM
Signed, Sergeant J.G.
out of text
I am close to being promoted to sgt in the next class with 20 years of service do you collect that pay scale for sgt at 20 years or do you start at the bottom? I can't find a answer
The commander of 010 is about brain dead as they come wasting a pick on A.B for merit Sgt. His partner was the brains of the operation. A.B probably can’t even spell Sergeant.
If Yolanda gives you any days which she is a high possibility make sure to grieve it. I've heard her talk about her cases outloud which is a HUGE no no and her saying always give more so they settle for less. That's so beyond F upped. Know your audience and how loud you are. She doesn't even care I'm sure. Nothing to see here just the anointed few who are so lucky.
If you were a new Superintendent, wouldn’t you want your own picks ? That’s why a new merit list- I would imagine.
YW is a nice lady and dresses to the 9’s. She might not be the brightest, but she’s okay in my book.
1/19/2024 09:14:00 AM
Dwayne, is that you?
Don’t forget her husband is a merit sgt
Should rename Merit List to Put Up or Put Out list. Lots of cash or knee pads.
Anonymous said...
Retired in Texas…….
IAD Sergeant YW just started command school at Northwestern.
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The YW you speak of is that petulant turd Yolanda Walton. And she is in internal affairs? The department is sinking in quicksand. She should not be any where near anything that requires a thought process. If she makes lieutenant that just shows how bad the department has gotten.
And btw she is friends with Johnson’s wife or ex wife, what ever she is. She’s also as dumb as a bag of old potatoes. No offense to potatoes.
1/19/2024 03:37:00 PM
YW is at least 50 years old, not that much time on the job though. So if the unofficial merit age limit is enacted will it affect YW?
Anonymous said...
OT. Firm tied to ex-police superintendent returns: A Texas firm with ties to former Chicago Police Supt. David Brown is back training officers at Chicago's police academy, less than a year after being dumped by the Chicago Police Department over cost concerns.
1/19/2024 03:16:00 PM
I think that is just a false rumor!
I'll agree that the testing format, especially last time was a joke. But shouldn't the coppers who took the test first and didntt know ahead what it entailed and then blabbered what was on it to the ones who hadn't taken it yet....be labeled as dumbasses themselves? They basically shot themselves in the foot.
Larry should do the right thing. Cut off should be top
350 Sgts on the list get promoted. All of you you tools who keep saying keep studying and pass a test actually believe that the test is legit.
wallace, tossed wooten out of 2 because she wanted to be lightduty on the desk as a sgt so she could study for the Lts test, which of course she failed at. She is Fenners best friend both are pos cheating and/or merit hacks who think they are better then everyone.. Hello gals you are a big joke.
You can’t toss someone out of a district maybe off a watch
https://www.youtube.com/live/zyiBD28Va4I?si=yRYG-Af9jPXfD5WJ
Disgrace! Point, blank, period. She will jam up officers in a moment in order to continue to move up. She has no idea what being the police is and makes me sick knowing she has had the fate of officers in her idiot hands. YW you should be ashamed of wearing the uniform. Any boss that backs this clown should be equally ashamed.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Larry should do the right thing. Cut off should be top
350 Sgts on the list get promoted. All of you you tools who keep saying keep studying and p
The list has always gone up to 500-600. 600 because the merit hacks stole some spaces and also to make up for the recent retirees.
Correy Hatter, always wondered about that guy in 011. Zero work ethic but wanted to work tact, couldn't find a dope pinch if his life defended on it. But was always wanting to accuse other cops of racism. And of course he gets promoted by merit. The next Ed Blow me for me for promotion Johnson. Seriously, enough is enough. Affirmative action has to end. Wasn't Obama enough?
Tom Lamb is proof enough that merit is just wrong. Only imbecile with 32 years on that won't retire.
I am close to being promoted to sgt in the next class with 20 years of service do you collect that pay scale for sgt at 20 years or do you start at the bottom? I can't find an answer.
Your Sgt. Pay grade will reflect your years of service not your time as a Sgt. You’ll be at step 9 on the pay scale once you hit 20 years.
https://directives.chicagopolice.org/forms/CPD-61.400.pdf
Rejecting the current sergeant’s list was one of the best things the Supe has done. The recent candidates for merit sergeant were mostly file pushers, officers assigned to non essential duties and a few detectives claiming to be Homicide detectives which is laughable. If a dick is interviewed, his/ her case clearance rate should be taken into consideration. Talk is cheap, real numbers don’t lie. If a patrol officer is interviewed, his/ her activity record and attendance should be taken into consideration. This would weed out the file pushers, pin cushions, secretaries and medical abusers.
YW loves to pick on new officers. Stopping them, holding them up and given them dumb lectures while pointing her index finger in their face.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
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I am close to being promoted to sgt in the next class with 20 years of service do you collect that pay scale for sgt at 20 years or do you start at the bottom? I can't find a answer
1/19/2024 06:18:00 PM
Jesus…….You shouldn’t be a Sgt.
“I am close to being promoted to sgt in the next class with 20 years of service do you collect that pay scale for sgt at 20 years or do you start at the bottom? I can't find a answer“
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You can’t be serious.
The fact that you don’t know that and also can’t figure out where to find the answer- with 20 years on, and you’re about to become a supervisor is exactly the kind of incompetence we are literally all here complaining about.
Nothing but the brightest for our leadership.
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I am close to being promoted to sgt in the next class with 20 years of service do you collect that pay scale for sgt at 20 years or do you start at the bottom? I can't find a answer
1/19/2024 06:18:00 PM
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It's your hire date as a PO back in the day.
There's no such thing as a dumb question.
Just please don't handle my ISR's or TRR's. The question is a disaster but not dumb.
America
This last sergeant test was a horrible mistake by the department. Having the same set of questions over a five-day period. People who took the exam on the first few days did not do as well as the people who took the exam on the last two days. Obviously, the test questions were passed around to everyone giving them enough time to create a response. No wonder the department is rushing to get a new test. Merit in its current form sucks. If it was up to the city, promotions would be 100% merit so they would put people in that would do as they were told. If you want a fair test where none of our command staff can pass out the exam ahead of time. You have to have the test company sit down with our subject matter experts (merit bosses who pass out the test to friends who do not want to be merit). Our SME and the test company will develop 2000 possible test questions that would be appropriate and uncontestable. The department will post the possible 2000 questions and answers that will be on the exam to the entire department as a study guide. On the day of the exam, the test company will randomly select 100 questions that will be on the exam. Not one command staff member will know which questions will be on the exam. Your scantron test will be graded as you walk out the door, and you will be provided a copy of your score. The company will rank score you based on score, seniority, and age tiebreaker. Your results will be mailed to you in two weeks. No one can complain it was not a fair test or that I didn't test well. We all had the questions and answers ahead of time and you have to put in the effort in learning the material.
I had first day first test and I was promoted first class. The test was not fair but I was prepared.
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I am close to being promoted to sgt in the next class with 20 years of service do you collect that pay scale for sgt at 20 years or do you start at the bottom? I can't find a answer
Your E3 pay will be based on how many years of service you have on the job, not time in grade. Example a sergeant with 12 years on the job will have more seniority than you if he made it before you. But you will make more money because you are at higher step with your years of service. Also you will get more for supervisor quarterly. Congratulations and take care of the troops. Don't forget where you came from.
The only "Merit" should be a medal and a $500 check if you happen to save the city... maybe the "key to the city" thing. Forget the rest of the nepotic bullshit.
Take the test. Score high, get first dibs at promotions as they come up. Score low? Stay where the fuck you are forever, or retake the test and do better.
ever notice the more merit the more pressed the uniform, hey we all still know no matter how shiny the shoes - fools!
There are maybe one or two AA POs left in the original merit list. The remaining AA POs have all been promoted to sergeant. They need more from this group which is why they're asking for more names even though the other groups have plenty of names left.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Larry should do the right thing. Cut off should be top
350 Sgts on the list get promoted. All of you you tools who keep saying keep studying and p
The list has always gone up to 500-600. 600 because the merit hacks stole some spaces and also to make up for the recent retirees.
1/19/2024 11:19:00 PM
The new sup unfortunately has to deal with the actions of the previous sup. It caused him to limit the number of people on the current merit list..
Each class can have UP TO 30% merit spots. It doesn’t require you to have any.
There may be 3 classes left from this test.. how about just make those classes off rank order? (I know… wishful thinking)
Det class going in 12Feb off the old merit list
Adams v. City of Chicago, 135 F.3d 1150 (1998)
• Although 46% of those who took the Chicago Police Sgt. Test were minorities, only 12% were later eligible for promotion. P’s alleged disparate impact and a violation of Title VII.
• 1993 Sgt’s test (administered in first 3 months of 1994). 3 parts, the third being oral. There was no meritorious whatsoever. 4,700 took parts I (31.8% were black, 10.8% were Hispanic, and 56.4% were white) and II, of which 1,900 went on to part III. But after all three parts were graded, about 88% of those designated to be promoted to sergeant were white and 12% were minority.
• HOW MERIT CAME ABOUT.
• The plaintiffs filed an interlocutory appeal. However, during the pendency of this appeal, the City of Chicago initiated a Blue Ribbon Task Force to review the Department's promotion practices. By consent of the parties, argument on this appeal was delayed until the Task Force issued its report. In May 1997, the Task Force issued its report recommending that up to 30% of the Department's promotions to sergeant be made on the basis of "merit." This meant that current sergeants and lieutenants would pick 30% of the police officers that would be promoted to sergeant. However, the report also recommends that the current test continue to be used to assure that sergeants given "merit" promotions meet a minimum level of competence.
• So this case is all about the denial of the preliminary injunction. My question is whether the P’s later were promoted via merit? And were there merit promotions for this exam or not? I don’t think so. The 1998 Sgt. Test was the first to have merit. Det’s had merit even prior to this.
• https://scholar.google.com/scholar_case?case=17422651701012539686&q=Adams+v.+City+of+Chicago,+135+F.3d+1150+(1998)&hl=en&as_sdt=400006&as_vis=1
Stop using initials for these merit hacks. They took a promotion spot from someone who earned it off the test list and everyone is using initials protecting these hacks. Use their names '!!!!!!!!!!!
Where is the media on this. I thought we are department of accountability and legitimacy. Common Larry.
People getting promoted for their race. I know it was the old regime but do the right thing.
https://www.youtube.com/live/zyiBD28Va4I?si=yRYG-Af9jPXfD5WJ
Disgrace! Point, blank, period. She will jam up officers in a moment in order to continue to move up. She has no idea what being the police is and makes me sick knowing she has had the fate of officers in her idiot hands. YW you should be ashamed of wearing the uniform. Any boss that backs this clown should be equally ashamed.
She was a disgrace in the academy . Sad to see she’s still on
and just exactly how many people of color, women or paper pushers would be promoted without merit promotions????
Merit can't get any worse .. then testOlie getting merit sgt and then getting a tac team in twenty somethin 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Biggest goof ball around .. scared of his own shadow.
But his race code was the Ace card in all of the race codes that could prove why merit was even started.
Larry should do the right thing. Cut off should be top
350 Sgts on the list get promoted. All of you you tools who keep saying keep studying and p
The list has always gone up to 500-600. 600 because the merit hacks stole some spaces and also to make up for the recent retirees. 1/19/2024 11:19:00 PM
This is incorrect, I was 501 from the 2007 sergeants test and didn’t get promoted. It use to be if you didn’t score under 300 you weren’t going to make it, anything under 400 was considered on the bubble.
I never studied for any promotional exam, but I’ve read every department directive at least once, and I always read anything new that comes out. I have never scored over 1000 on any promotional exam I ever took, I just pride myself in knowing the job. It drives supervisors nuts when I tell them they are wrong and recite the department directive or state statute. I was promoted to detective off the list with score under 350 when I had almost 20 years OTJ. I never took another promotional exam again after make detective because I was disgruntled and content being a detective. Looking back at it, I should have taken the test and turned it down if I didn’t want it. I know I would done a lot better than what we have now. I would always put my workers before myself and wouldn’t ask them to do anything I wouldn’t do. I would ensure my workers stayed out of trouble,harms way(if I could) and protect them from the imbecile supervisors we have today - that’s what a leader is! And for the record during my time not once was I asked to submit a packet for meritorious promotion, a full career with maxed out pension and not once because I was not a yes man and spoke up for myself and others that were to afraid too.
Anonymous said...
If Yolanda gives you any days which she is a high possibility make sure to grieve it. I've heard her talk about her cases outloud which is a HUGE no no and her saying always give more so they settle for less. That's so beyond F upped. Know your audience and how loud you are. She doesn't even care I'm sure. Nothing to see here just the anointed few who are so lucky.
1/19/2024 06:51:00 PM
If you think YW says too much then you haven’t been around the hillbilly from records. Likes running her mouth on social media too.
Toss certain Merit Srg JG in 025. He's as dumb as the day is long. He takes three parking spaces for his hipster Tesla while everyone looks for parking. That goof was an FTO in 18 and doesn't know what a hood is. All he knows is that he owes a lot of favors (activity)to bosses as he takes the bite of the merit apple. He's such a stroke please send him back to 018, he doesn't know how to be the police or even a stupivsor.
The problem isn’t only merit, the entire process is a fraud. Let’s talk about secret study groups (who have access to the test), study group teachers who happen to help write the test, etc. Even the people who run the tests, proctors, etc. are incompetent. The only merit promotion should be detective and given to those who are exemplary officers, not some honey who never made an arrest.
I am close to being promoted to sgt in the next class with 20 years of service do you collect that pay scale for sgt at 20 years or do you start at the bottom? I can't find a answer
Try asking your sergeant? U get 20 year sgt pay
9/2024 06:51:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
If you were a new Superintendent, wouldn’t you want your own picks ? That’s why a new merit list- I would imagine.
Yes, I would because everyone EC planted should be dumped.
I have the misfortune of being around the new merit Lts in training. That has to be the most pathetic group possible.
One merit guy was bragging about returning to his Detective Area as a Lt. If the clearance rate was low when you were there as a sergeant, why would they send you back as a Lt? That doesn’t make sense. But nothing about this department does.
Anonymous said...
IAD Sergeant YW just started command school at Northwestern. She wouldn't have made Lt on her own and needs merit. Rumor has it that she is friends with the former supt who was passed out drunk in his car. Get her out of IAD, the way she bosses the POs around like a queen and goes out of her way to screw POs in her cases, while kissing the asses of the bosses and trying to talk like a rich white girl
The timing fits with the new list being made.
She a BIG CLOWN
She has grown BIG BALLS since working in IAD
FUCKIN HOUSE MOUSE
Anonymous said...
https://www.youtube.com/live/zyiBD28Va4I?si=yRYG-Af9jPXfD5WJ
I’m almost certain, no one gave YW permission to speak on behalf of the department, in uniform. Because that isn’t the script. Did she really say that she’s afraid for her 4 sons and doesn’t want them shot by CPD officers while driving while Black? Did she say that she was disheartened by the recent police shootings? Is she the spokes person for the department now? Where was News Affairs?
The remaining names are actual working coppers who the merit list was made for!!!!!
Anonymous said...
The remaining names are actual working coppers who the merit list was made for!!!!!
Dude you need to reapply. The list was trash.
Yw is useless and has no idea of the department is run
Why would the department promote more merit instead of more people off of this list. The last test was very hard and anyone the scored under 600 should be promoted. Forget the merit hacks.
YW shows you right in that interview what she is all about. She is fake and plays both sides of the fence. She will read these post and think she isn't liked because she works in IAD and why people hate her. This isn't the case. I know plenty of people at IAD who are both good and bad but always fair and not her mindset. YW isn't fair. She kisses bosses asses and is a SNAKE. YW if you read this know, this has nothing to do with you working at IAD. You would be the same impartial and incompetent human being passing out radios at any district.
Don't say karens. If you do.....
No keeses for you!!!!
Most coppers on here are lazy and disgruntled haters who have never been the police but think they are entitled . Merit Works if it is done correctly! Guarantee it that most the coppers on here are also the ones who have police stickers all over there cars with thin blue line flags and love people to know they are the police when they have never done me anything significant in there career besides bitch and complain. lol
What is a keez?
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
I smell a law suits, so wait people were promoted based on their race not their work ethic? I’m a civilian and I find this extremely disturbing. It’s 2024. No wonder why Chicago has such a crime rate. Promote the working police if you use merit like in the military. How can we the public and media get that list. How many white officers and minority officers are left on that list? And what’s up with all this talk even if people rest well it’s all a scam like people cheat and it’s open(
In the 020th District merit packages “supposedly” have to be in by 26JAN to be considered. As of 23JAN a certain merit Sgt himself is telling P.O.’s that “don’t bother putting in for merit because the Commander already chose his three people”. (2 FTO’s, one tactical officer ) If this is true, which it probably is, this is a kick in the balls to everyone working hard getting their packet together to submit by the Friday “deadline “. So much for a fair, impartial process. Typical CPD merit bullshit.
Why does 020 have 3 picks? The busier districts should be getting more.
Interesting how Chicago does their Merit system. So it’s based on race not qualifications?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
If Yolanda gives you any days which she is a high possibility make sure to grieve it. I've heard her talk about her cases outloud which is a HUGE no no and her saying always give more so they settle for less. That's so beyond F upped. Know your audience and how loud you are. She doesn't even care I'm sure. Nothing to see here just the anointed few who are so lucky.
1/19/2024 06:51:00 PM
If you think YW says too much then you haven’t been around the hillbilly from records. Likes running her mouth on social media too.
If you think they talk too much, let a CR come in for someone IAD Sgt. Keshia Frierson knows and watch her call them and give them the heads up.
No way the CPD is taking race into consideration when making merit promotions.
In the 020th District merit packages “supposedly” have to be in by 26JAN to be considered. As of 23JAN a certain merit Sgt himself is telling P.O.’s that “don’t bother putting in for merit because the Commander already chose his three people”. (2 FTO’s, one tactical officer ) If this is true, which it probably is, this is a kick in the balls to everyone working hard getting their packet together to submit by the Friday “deadline “. So much for a fair, impartial process. Typical CPD merit bullshit.
1/24/2024 07:17:00 AM
Don’t bother putting in a merit packet unless you have been asked to. The time to get in the Commander’s ear is as soon as they are announced. The Commander always knows who he is gonna pick man, they dont give a fuck what you did before they got there, what have you done for me lately?
Wow, I heard that there were a lot of working sharp officers left on that list.
Law suits. Where is the media on this scam? Promoting people on race?
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