Jewelers' Row Shooting
Selective prosecution (and eventual non-prosecution):
- A would-be thief who was shot by a concealed carry holder while
trying to commit a smash-and-grab at a downtown Chicago jewelry store
has been released without charges being filed. The store employee who
shot the alleged thief was also released after spending more than a day
in custody as prosecutors considered charging him with a crime.
A Chicago police spokesperson told CWBChicago on Sunday evening that “two individuals related to this incident have been released without charging at this time.” The investigation is continuing.
The CWB link up top has video to the crime.
And yes, we know, strictly speaking, a property crime doesn't rate lethal force, but business owners have a Right to conduct business without jagoffs coming in with hammers and stealing everything from locked cabinets. And the continuous non-prosecution of property crimes is leading to thousands of businesses leaving Chicago and contributing to the frustrations of businesses and citizens alike. After all, it's just a short step to one of these thieves hopping the counter and beating a worker or customer with the hammer he brought along.
Sometimes, an ounce of prevention....
We'll bet dickhead doesn't go back to that store again.
Labels: crime
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
57 Comments:
Take solace in the fact the would be thief will be unable to procreate anymore, heard the round that entered his buttocks came out through his Johnson…
"We'll bet dickhead doesn't go back to that store again."
Why wouldn't he?
1. He's certainly dumb enough
2. He knows he won't get charged
3. He knows the store employee likely will be charged
Oh, no. Never mind. He's probably got lawyers calling him. He's going to be a ghetto lottery winner.
Even if your use of force is legal and justifiable you can't just shoot someone and hit Ricobene's for a king size bread steak. It's a concealed carry license, not a license to kill. You will be taken into custody and detectives will conduct a complete & thorough investigation. If it's all legit then you get RWOC. This is how it's been done since day 1 of concealed carry.
This is what they want. Crime and chaos to prevail in order to sped up the take over of the country. If you try to stop it you must be charged. This guy was lucky he didn’t get charged. The bad guy will get a lawyer and sue the businessman for putting his life in danger, because it’s the Chicago Way! Kind of like what they are doing to Trump for blowing the whistle on the left.
Anyone willing to arm themselves with any deadly weapon, which includes a hammer or knife, in order to facilitate the commission of a crime, should be able to be shot and killed by anyone they choose to victimize. Whether they are stealing jewelry or trying to kill someone, they chose to present a deadly threat to perpetrate a crime, and they should be subject to being stopped by any means necessary. The law should protect victims of these crimes who are forced to use violence to combat the criminals. Instead, the person fighting against the criminal is more likely to be charged with a crime than the actual criminal. And that victim would likely face harsher charges and sentencing than the actual criminal.
Welcome to FAFO Jewlers, how can I help you?
This strictly speaking standard is that root cause the democrats are always searching for.
Oh he’ll go back alright, with his ambulance chasing attorney
"We'll bet dickhead doesn't go back to that store again."
Actually, I bet - once healed on the taxpayers' dime - he (or disguised friends acting on his behest) return to the store to exact revenge on the CCL employee.
Bullshit a property crime should end with perp DOA. Deadly force is warrented any time someone is trying to take what you own. End of conversation.
This is simply a store employee filling the void left by city policy.
Fuck tha police, you say ?
The police wouldn't have shot you under those circumstances.
That being said, watch for European legislation outlawing self defense.
No further proof is needed...not only do JB Pritzker, Brandon Johnson and Kim Foxx refuse to support the police and law and order...they are co-conspirators and accomplices to the violent criminals and gangs that run rampant through this city. Ask any cop in Indiana, Iowa, Wisconsin or even Texas and they will tell you that Chicago's criminals are now moving there to set up criminal enterprises. The violent Chicago thug-life is spreading like deep-dish pizza. {Ugh!} It's now everywhere in this country.
It’s a shame the guy is still sucking air kudos to the employee more of this please
Again, Democrats are insane.
No keeses for them.
Needs to happen more often with these thieves!
We'll bet dickhead doesn't go back to that store again.
Or at least until his dog ass family sues and takes over ownership...
Ahhh....been retired for 14 years now, but has the law changed?? If people are present, the mutt is armed with a hammer damaging and stealing...isn't that armed robbery, at minimum strong arm robbery? A FORCIBLE FELONY!!!! Shoot the mutt!!!!!
The process is the punishment.
That crime was just broadcast on CHICAGO PD TV SHOW!
I saw a security guard with a pretty mean guard dog in a south suburb. He told me if some people act up, the dog might get loose.
Regardless of the state's ineptitude, when you play stupid games, you can win stupid prizes. Wonder if he's now a she?
He might be back in the store only this time as an owner after he sues them. This city and state is FUBAR
So anyone can trash your property, smash your property, threaten you upon your property, without legal penalty??? Seems this specific recent inaction by DA Office, this specific "no-charge" determination, will result in significant uptick in personal property crimes here in Chicago.
Thank you, Kimm Foxx, gangsta extraordinaire. The Chicago insane asylum is truly run by the criminally-minded inmates.
Wasn't there a 'no guns allowed' sign on the door?
Got to charge the shooter then.
"Oh he’ll go back alright, with his ambulance chasing attorney"
100% correct he will get a payout. This is Chicago rewarding bad behavior is what we do.
Why the F would any CPD officer even consider completing an arrest report on the CCL holder. I really hope officers wouldn’t do this to a guy who is protecting his property. Who gives a fat rats ass what the states attorneys office wants you to do. You simply refuse to even consider completing the arrest report.
SCC or other insiders, can you inform us if the CCW person gets charged?
"...isn't that armed robbery, at minimum strong arm robbery? A FORCIBLE FELONY!!!!"
Those are not crimes anymore. Please keep up. Kimmy Foxx decides what's a crime. She decided those are not crimes.
Yeah but on Chicago PD tv show
Offender was a white dude
The CCL spent more time in police custody then the would be Jagoff thief ! Crimesha, and her incompetent, ineffective office refused to charge the Ghetto savage with a crime ! The progressive socialist communist Democratic Party has destroyed Chicago !
Gut shot?
With any luck maybe he'll pick up Sepsis in the Hospital.
Second set of charges dropped? Just who is connected to? But jeweler would have needed an elephant gun to bring down that pos.
I think the idiot was using his fist, to try to break the case. Genius.
https://www.outkick.com/culture/fbi-stealing-retail-theft-picture-reaction
"The FBI tweeted an image of two young white women stealing and robbing a store in an attempt to address theft."
This is like most of the CTA signs portraying "forbidden" activities. The person misbehaving is a white man or a white woman.
Not Deontae attacking and robbing.
Not Shanequa hollerin' on her phone.
Not Hector playing the soccer-match audio at full volume.
Maybe next time police will not show up at all, another destroyed city like chicago hey Brandon over here let your people/folks battle it out:
Pittsburgh police won't send officers to certain emergency calls, will redirect to telephone unit
Pittsburgh Police Chief Larry Scirotto says changes meant to help serve city more efficiently
https://www.foxnews.com/us/pittsburgh-police-wont-send-officers-certain-emergency-calls-redirect-telephone-unit
*You don't want police fine we get the hint, whats going to happen come sept in the cps indoctrination centers with no police? That is ok we can do the paper and call the medics to take their asses to morgue or hospital, liberal teachers lets see how you handle the spawn your indoctrinating!
You cant shoot a guy in the back who is runnning away. End of story.
Even if your use of force is legal and justifiable you can't just shoot someone and hit Ricobene's for a king size bread steak. It's a concealed carry license, not a license to kill. You will be taken into custody and detectives will conduct a complete & thorough investigation. If it's all legit then you get RWOC. This is how it's been done since day 1 of concealed carry.
2/27/2024 01:46:00 AM
If your use of force is known to be legal and justifiable, anyone taking you into custody is violating your rights. If further investigation is needed to determine if you committed a crime, that's a whole different thing. If I have a video of some dude breaking into my house armed with a gun, pointing it at me and threatening to shoot me, and I shoot him, I would hope you're not dumb enough to take me into custody. I'll give you my video, my gun, and a statement, and you can get whatever else you need from my lawyer. If you decide to take me into custody at that point, I'll enjoy spending your money once the lawsuit is over. You're probably confused because you don't know the difference between concealed carry and a person defending their home or place of business. Even with concealed carry, if you know the shooting was legal, you can't take the shooter into custody. Well you can, but you'd be violating their rights. Do you take everyone into custody at the scene of a car crash to do a breathalyzer? Do you take everyone into custody at a domestic to determine if someone was beaten? Do you take everyone into custody at every incident to determine if they committed a crime? No. You conduct an on scene investigation first, to determine if anyone needs to be taken into custody. You don't arrest and then look for a crime to charge.
You cant shoot a guy in the back who is runnning away. End of story.
2/27/2024 02:20:00 PM
The law says different, depending on the totality of the circumstances. If someone commits a forcible felony, and is armed with a deadly weapon, and you reasonable believe they will use that weapon to cause death or great bodily harm to anyone, and the use of deadly force is reasonably required to stop that person from escaping to cause that death or great bodily harm, you absolutely can shoot them in the back. That's how the Illinois law is written. It's still Illinois though, so I'd highly suggest not testing that "totality of the circumstances" and "reasonableness" standard unless you absolutely feel that you must shoot someone in the back to prevent them from killing or severely injuring someone. And if you're a Chicago police officer, the department has already said you can't shoot a fleeing felon, so don't even think about it. They don't care what the law says, because their policy is more restrictive.
Anonymous said...
You cant shoot a guy in the back who is runnning away. End of story.
2/27/2024 02:20:00 PM
you need to be a bit more definitive,,,, if a person is still shooting at you while running away, YES, you can shoot back,,,, if the person has no weapon then NO, you cannot shoot, unless you are a black off duty sgt. shooting at a black kid who is autistic from 30 feet away
The Crook had a HAMMER in his hand. The fact that he was not within striking distance is irrelevant, because he could have THROWN the
Hammer at the lawfully armed innocent Employee.
Many years ago, I had occasion to visit a Police Academy in the Deep South (“ Way down South in the Land of Cotton”). There was a Knife- throwing and an Axe- throwing Demonstration so that the Recruits could legitimately say, if they ever used Deadly Force against a man armed with a knife who was 10-15 yards away, that they were well-aware of the threat posed by a thrown knife.
In my little red town, we have open carry and concealed. When the ranchers come to town, husband and wife are carrying large handguns on their hip. They are nice, law abiding folk. We have had two murders in the last hundred years, both were outsiders.
When my brother calls to vent, I can only answer with, it has been a bit windy. My property tax on a 4000 sq ft house on 2 acres is $2000 a year. I have not seen a crime here yet. It is quiet, peaceful, and people get along. It takes a while to get accustomed to peace and quiet but soon enough, you love it. When I visit Chicago, the noise, angry people, and nonsense wear me out within a few hours. It s unnerving. No sports teams, bars, or local hangouts are worth it. After what you have been through, you deserve this. Life is short, live it right.
The Commiecrat Democrat Nationwide-Worldwide plan is to turn the good guy into the bad guy, and the bad guy into the good guy.
Oh, the dickhead may be back to find his...dick head....
Anonymous said...
You cant shoot a guy in the back who is runnning away. End of story.
2/27/2024 02:20:00 PM
Yes you can if hes still a threat to others. FAFO.
Vigilant at Home Depot
https://twitter.com/ImMeme0/status/1762645628193009837/mediaViewer?currentTweet=1762645628193009837¤tTweetUser=ImMeme0
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You cant shoot a guy in the back who is runnning away. End of story.
2/27/2024 02:20:00 PM
Well, where else is the bullet gonna hit?
What about a guy running away backwards?
Listen people, we all have choices here. You can either be a victim or vigilante. I will opt for the latter, carry a mask before you pop a turd. Just sayin for a friend.
Look for more of this in cities that have Sorazz installed states attorneys.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
https://www.outkick.com/culture/fbi-stealing-retail-theft-picture-reaction
"The FBI tweeted an image of two young white women stealing and robbing a store in an attempt to address theft."
This is like most of the CTA signs portraying "forbidden" activities. The person misbehaving is a white man or a white woman.
Not Deontae attacking and robbing.
Not Shanequa hollerin' on her phone.
Not Hector playing the soccer-match audio at full volume.
2/27/2024 01:47:00 PM--_
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ever watch Chicago PD? Most offenders are white and some are even middle-aged
Burglary is a forcible felony in the rest of Illinois, so if the citizen was in fear of their life at that point, the shooting was legal.
(720 ILCS 5/2-8) (from Ch. 38, par. 2-8)
Sec. 2-8. "Forcible felony". "Forcible felony" means treason, first degree murder, second degree murder, predatory criminal sexual assault of a child, aggravated criminal sexual assault, criminal sexual assault, robbery, burglary, residential burglary, aggravated arson, arson, aggravated kidnaping, kidnaping, aggravated battery resulting in great bodily harm or permanent disability or disfigurement and any other felony which involves the use or threat of physical force or violence against any individual.
(Source: P.A. 88-277; 89-428, eff. 12-13-95; 89-462, eff. 5-29-96.)
(720 ILCS 5/7-1) (from Ch. 38, par. 7-1)
Sec. 7-1. Use of force in defense of person.
(a) A person is justified in the use of force against another when and to the extent that he reasonably believes that such conduct is necessary to defend himself or another against such other's imminent use of unlawful force. However, he is justified in the use of force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm only if he reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to himself or another, or the commission of a forcible felony.
Come on guys, you’ve got to be kidding me. This is first week in the academy stuff. Citizens have different “rules” than the police. A citizen can shoot an offender to stop the commission of a forcible felony without being in fear of his life or great bodily harm. Example: dude breaks into your home by climbing through a window. Grabs some of your shit and as he does so he wakes you up. He attempts to flee via the door with your shit, you can shoot to stop the commission of a burglary, which is a forcible felony. This includes an off-duty officer at his home.
For all of you doubting that one does NOT need to be in fear for their life or great bodily harm pay attention to Section 7-2 - Use of Force in Defense of Dwelling. You could use deadly force to stop the commission of a forcible felony. Burglary is a forcible felony. The importance of the word OR cannot be overstated. Remember, dept rules for the police are different than state statute.
For all of you doubting that one does NOT need to be in fear for their life or great bodily harm pay attention to Section 7-2 - Use of Force in Defense of Dwelling. You could use deadly force to stop the commission of a forcible felony. Burglary is a forcible felony. The importance of the word OR cannot be overstated. Remember, dept rules for the police are different than state statute.
3/01/2024 11:33:00 AM
You have to reasonably believe that deadly force is necessary to stop that forcible felony. Someone walking out of your house with your TV can be stopped in many ways without shooting them in the back. If they're armed, then it may be necessary and reasonable to use deadly force to stop them. If they're unarmed, good luck selling the reasonable and necessary part of shooting them in the back. Illinois juries will gladly send a homeowner to prison for shooting an "unarmed black man who just wanted a TV to make a better life for his family." I personally believe anyone willing to break into another's home should be eligible for the instant death penalty at any point while they're on the property. However, my beliefs don't align with those of the best and brightest who end up on juries. So I'll watch my TV walk out the door and hope the offender is caught. Maybe I'll even demand my TV back at gunpoint, and see what game he wants to play. I absolutely won't be shooting him in the back as he leaves though. I value my freedom and question the wisdom of the general public too much to take that chance. This is all kind of a moot point though. If I'm home when someone breaks in to take what's mine, there's no chance they're getting back out that door without several holes in their person, making it difficult for them to carry my TV. If I'm on a jury, all force used against any forcible felon is reasonable and necessary.
Uhm the offender was the wrong ethnicity and so was the employee shooter. KIM FOX 🦊 just wanted to bag another American citizen & violate his 2nd Amendment rights. The shooter should sue the state’s attorney office for duress, stress, PTSD, and racial profiling him because he was white. It’s time to hold the states attorneys accountable (FOXY)!
Reading comprehension is a skill. Don't listen to the fools. You DO NOT have to be in fear of your life or great bodily harm to stop a forcible felony, burglary. You can shoot the dude to stop the commission of a forcible felony. The police cannot, a "citizen" can. See Section 7-2 - Use of Force in Defense of Dwelling. Once again, the importance of the word OR cannot be overstated.
Reading comprehension is a skill. Don't listen to the fools. You DO NOT have to be in fear of your life or great bodily harm to stop a forcible felony, burglary. You can shoot the dude to stop the commission of a forcible felony. The police cannot, a "citizen" can. See Section 7-2 - Use of Force in Defense of Dwelling. Once again, the importance of the word OR cannot be overstated.
3/03/2024 04:25:00 PM
You're missing a very important part of that statute. Any force used must be reasonable and necessary to stop the commission of that forcible felony. You don't have to shoot someone in the back if they're walking out with your TV. You will be in prison. Illinois isn't friendly to victims shooting criminals. Add in a white homeowner shooting an unarmed black man in the back, and you've got a recipe for a life sentence. Remember where you live and remember you're not a lawyer. Reasonable and necessary are key terms in all these statutes, and you don't understand what they mean. Stop giving legal advice before someone is unfortunate enough to take it.
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