This Means Something....
But what? We just can't figure it out:
- Last year set records for the number of overtime hours worked by
Chicago Police officers – and that trend is continuing this year, with
the summer just getting started.
There are also additional needs this year with months of massive events on the schedule, notably including the Democratic National Convention in August.
Between last year's 52nd annual Pride Parade, the NASCAR Cup Series race downtown, the four-day Lollapalooza Music Festival, and a year's worth of other commitments for Chicago Police, officers clocked in 4,151,294 hours of overtime in 2023, according to a CBS News Data Team analysis.
This cost taxpayers nearly $300 million.
Could it possibly....just possibly....be that manpower shortage we've been warning about for how many years which has now reached crisis levels as officers of all ranks from the massive 1993-1998 hiring wave max out their pensions and hit the age of 55 for insurance purposes?
UPDATE: Post corrected for years - that was all the Clinton money being directed to the big cities.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
63 Comments:
Hope they say goodbye before leaving.
But so many are in a rush to hit the road we don't have time to say goodbye to them all.
Thanks for your service, enjoy the memories.
P.s. Move on, don't look back.
Wait for me! 5yrs to go
No, it’s mostly extensions where an officer stays an hour and gets at least 3 to get their commanders blue cards. At least on weekdays. Nobody wants it on weekends. Come and go as you please for blue cards.
Oh NO! SHIT.. Now What ???
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXTx_nEThPA
Not that I want to see fewer police officers, I am always for the more the better.
But from a logical standpoint if the criminals went to jail/prison and stayed to serve their sentences you would need fewer people in law enforcement, plus less victims who end up dead or maimed.
Who the fuck wants to be the police when these shitfucks ruining every branch of our governments are misusing, abusing and clusterfucking every valid purpose for there to be government?
So...
Police are the problem again...
Smile and take the money
JC the voice of the FOP has been quite ………. Nothing after the pension mess up and his guy was elected in a special election for the pension board.
It’s unlimited overtime for literally everyone, even the desk Barbie with 2 years on does unlimited overtime on the desk. I guess get it while it’s here but there is no thought or strategy. Overtime should really be restricted to street duties, not gossiping and doing makeup at the desk. But as with everything in this department just shrug your shoulders and mind your own business. If the DNC is the biggest shit show ever? So be it. If it isn’t? Still don’t care. Come to work, do my job, go home. 17 more years of this.
Still, so many hiding in units and inside spots.
House mice just keep breeding and keep getting fat.
and very few are signing up to replace us so the shortages will continue to increase . Best bet for the city is to get rid of the old timers and find a way to mass hire the next few years.
Liberals, Democrats and Communists, you did this! Your constant hateful words towards the police resulted in less people applying to be police officers. Your continuous demonization of the police is the reason why. Lastly, the voters who keep voting for Democrats did this.
Could it possibly....just possibly....be that manpower shortage we've been warning about for how many years which has now reached crisis levels as officers of all ranks from the massive 1993-1995 hiring wave max out their pensions and hit the age of 55 for insurance purposes?
Heaven help us God, save the queen...
cheaper to pay OT than hire more and pay their pension
Speaking of NASCAR,I can't wait to see the terrorist sympathizer protesters marching on the track stopping the race
The city is crying wolf. We all know with large city events like DNC, the feds pay the bill for all city services, same with Lalo. Hell they (Lalo) pay to replace the grass every year. Think about all the money the city is saving with the low manpower, they budget for 12thousand officers but we haven't seen those numbers in years. That's 12 thousand at max pay scale, along with insurance, and all other perks. So it's all BS. When you are short staffed what do you think is going to happen, you half to pay OT!
Yep. It’s possible. Going down Friday, along with many others I know. Good luck and stay safe boys and girls. It’s been a pleasure
https://johnkassnews.com/finally-chicago-cops-have-leverage/
The massive hiring was 1993-1998, the manpower problems are just starting. They need to start hiring those who are qualified and want to work regardless.
No, it’s mostly extensions where an officer stays an hour and gets at least 3 to get their commanders blue cards. At least on weekdays. Nobody wants it on weekends. Come and go as you please for blue cards.
Really, so you can't do it because you work days inside so you know their schedule. That's wrong with today's progressives, jealousy. I can't do it so I'll ruin it for others.
Worked inside the last two years. Never assigned to specialized phone call units other than tact for 3 years. The rest spent in a beat car. I would never want to push a beat car again, 19 years is enough for me. These no good bosses demand same results with LESS manpower. Patrol Officers are squeezed to the maximum and burdened with triple the amount of the work then ever before. Get put of patrol asap!
They need to send CTU members, social workers and anti-violence workers out to the South and West sides at 2 a.m. with job applications. That would be fun.
Too bad the NASCAR cup series couldn’t have been run through the 52nd annual pride parade. I would have worked that for free.
Because pension check, commander’s pay, magazine editor salary, soon to be retired pension board member with a monthly expense account j kitty doesn’t give a shit about you minions. His insurance is paid for by us until he is 65, he has a vehicle paid for by us, including gas. His cell phone is paid for by us. Didn’t he say at a meeting if you are worried about a few hundred in your pension check you should have planned your finances better? 300K a year and I wouldn’t worry about a few hundred a month either. It’s kind ironic to say that when your home was foreclosed on and your boat repossessed. J Kitty now living large on YOUR dues. Why did you think he’s keeping the books locked up and the minutes hidden? His board is rewarded financially for rubber stamping his spending. Half days, vacation days, days off for bad weather, golf outings everyone is soooooooooooo busy they cannot have an open door policy. First term they worked pretty hard, this term they are playing hard. Go look at the spending. Ask why they don’t want to file grievances, most earning captain’s pay for 3-4 callouts a month. Your union officers should not be making 1 million dollars in salary and 500K in additional costs while you work like a dog risking your life daily. WE DON’T EVEN HAVE A CONTRACT. Let’s go kitty, change out of your ugly ass golf pants, put down the cigar and finish the contract !!!!!!
Just wait until the dust settles Aug 15th and see how many will hit the button between now and then before the whispering mummy's convention.
Walk into a district front office . You’ll find more officers being hidden than officers on the watch.
Retired, non LEO, non ILLINOIS.
What do they expect? If there's a shortage of officers, or something happens 30 minutes before the end of your shift, I'm sorry, OT is involved. That's just the way it is. If a baseball game is tied in the 9th, guess what! You go into extra innings! What incompetent bird brain can't figure this out?
The weather guy is on for 5 minutes, but gets paid for eight hours, I guess.
Where is the logic in this reporting, unless you're going after low IQ voters.
Maybe if the city shut the Pride Parade Down after the last float passes the ending point there wouldn’t be a need for excessive OT. Last year there were coppers who started at 0600 hours and did not get released until 0145 hours the following day. Yes, you’re reading that correctly, coppers were forced to work their RDO (Regular Day Off) and held hostage for 11 extra hours. You ask why… because this city and department are filled with pussys that refuse to say no and refuse to make a logical decision to shut that shit show down. If you tell the organizers of that parade that it’s over at this point then you don’t need to keep coppers around at time and half standing around doing nothing.
It is cheaper in the long run to pay OT rather than pension, medical, uniforms etc for city to work you like a rented mule.
Would be great to have a study that shows the OTs impact on crime clearance rates. I'll bet the rate is through the roof. Hardy har har ...
If you are an elected official in chicago, cook county, and Illinois look in the mirror because you are the problem that plagues this state.
I remember sometime in the mid 2000's the city was "outraged" at the amount of overtime the police were making, and "cracked" down a couple times. The local media ran the stories, and made it sound like it was a crime to make OT in CPD.
Any and all yellow slips had to be approved by some person at the district level under the watchful eye of the unit commander. All court notifications had to be pre-approved. The ASA's office would be contacted to make sure the officer's appearance was necessary. Special employment suffered. Extended tours were handed off to the next watch. Appearance notifications for ANOV court, and Impound court were gone by then as well. The crunch even hit the Detective Division and their OT got 86'd as well. Extension of tours was frowned upon, and in leiu of a yellow slip and early duck was promised at a later date. Ongoing investigations were handed off at the end of a tour ala "O.J." style and chaos ensued.
It was a debacle then, and now I see that OT has now more than doubled. I'm glad that I am gone. The simple fact is, that CPD manpower is completely mismanaged. They tighten budgetary constraints in knee jerk reaction to news media stories, and public opinion in general. I'm sure that after the convention, there will be another crackdown on OT. It will only be superficial because with the manpower these days they live and die on it. They won't hire now due to the "defund" movement. These are bad times. OT will begrudgingly continue to be the norm.
I was one of those "Clinton" era hires and I don't really miss the city at all...Get yours and get out...
Stay safe...
I retired in March, thank goodness.I miss my coworkers but not the bullshit. The grass is greener when you retire and your stress level drops almost immediately. Get out as soon as you can, don’t stay because of the overtime. 29 and a day and bye bye Chicago, I’m already out of Illinois.
Blogger Ludlow Peaswatter said...
https://johnkassnews.com/finally-chicago-cops-have-leverage/
6/09/2024 07:42:00 AM
Not really. Any meaningful changes will need to go thru numerous steps, like dealing with the consent decree, dealing with the SAFE-T act, etc. Will not happen. A DNC convention like 1968? No. The police will be on a tight leash, so will the Soros protestors and the fake news will not report anything damaging to the DNC.
Paying inordinate amounts of overtime is the only option when you can't find sufficient numbers to replace people.
Jethro Bodine Says:
Irresponsible spending and leadership by City Hall. Taxpayers giving these Clowns waaaay too much money to play with. Chicagoans/Crook County Residents, demand tax cuts NOW.
Good thing they got rid of SDI
It’s very dangerous to force so much overtime on men and women in law enforcement. You have to be mentally and physically alert at all times. Split second decisions can cause an officer to be injured.
If injured because of exhaustion,file a law suit.
Or prevent an injury,call off sick,reason physically exhausted from forced overtime.
Is CPD allowing enough time for breaks to rest,eat,bathroom breaks?
I doubt it.
Don't fool yourself...The city thinks manpower allocation is at full strength. Just like they did when the 13,500 number was considered to be full strength. Now it is at 12,000 and we are not close to that number. The number is arbitrary people (or folks)
Can anyone say defunding by attrition?
Aug 9-11. Some genius again made The Air and Water show, Bud Biliken parade, and two sold out Soldier Field Metallica concerts, the same weekend, the week before the DNC. This email is coming. But, hey, they re looking out for our wellness.
The city is crying wolf. We all know with large city events like DNC, the feds pay the bill for all city services, same with Lalo. Hell they (Lalo) pay to replace the grass every year. Think about all the money the city is saving with the low manpower, they budget for 12thousand officers but we haven't seen those numbers in years. That's 12 thousand at max pay scale, along with insurance, and all other perks. So it's all BS. When you are short staffed what do you think is going to happen, you half to pay OT!
6/09/2024 07:14:00 AM
"Think about all the money the city is saving"?
Think about all of OUR paid taxes being squandered on the massive scams that our city, county and state governments are, and have been, pulling for decades.
All done under the cover of 'doing the will of the people' per having 'won' election to their relevant thrones.
The most potent effect of this century's communication technologies is, and has been, exposing humans to their true natures.
So true is that quote, "We have met the enemy and it is us."
Though, the new century's modification of this is, " We have let the enemas make shit slurry of us all."
Fuck CBS and their investigative report go do a report on all the Alders that steal money everyday.
Jethro Bodine Says:
This is all a scam, the city and Crook County have tons of our tax dollars salted away, for the Democrat Party to use in furtherance of their communist agenda. They siphon money off of everything and always cook the books to make things look legitimate to the Sheeple Taxpayers. Wake up to the scam already.
Thanks to hella seniority in a very cush unit I make a shit ton of OT cheddar. And it ain’t going ANYWHERE. I’ve made well over 200K for the last several years. I have no mortgage, no car notes, no tuition payments. Over a mil in def comp and several other investments. I’m gonna bleed this place dry for 16 more months until I turn 55 and then bounce the fuck out. I’ve earned every thing I have, no merit, no phone call. So F all the haters… shut up and wait your turn.
We can fix this immediately. STOP CANCELLING FUCKING RDOS
Have the Mayor's voters behave themselves and we won't have any of these problems.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
So glad to see that the rules were once again not enforced at Sgts exam. Hoodies, hats, cellphones. The test started well over an hour after the doors were scheduled to close, who knows if they even closed on at the posted time this time around. It's all legit boys and girls.
OT Feds charge persons involved in the murder of a service man after Foxx refused to charge.
Fake news here did mention arrest and charging in this case but I guess I missed the part where they mentioned Foxx refused charging.
https://www.breitbart.com/crime/2024/06/09/federal-prosecutors-charge-gang-members-in-chicago-veterans-murder-after-kim-foxx-refused/
Thanks to hella seniority in a very cush unit I make a shit ton of OT cheddar. And it ain’t going ANYWHERE. I’ve made well over 200K for the last several years. I have no mortgage, no car notes, no tuition payments. Over a mil in def comp and several other investments. I’m gonna bleed this place dry for 16 more months until I turn 55 and then bounce the fuck out. I’ve earned every thing I have, no merit, no phone call. So F all the haters… shut up and wait your turn.
6/09/2024 05:39:00 PM
Not a Cop. I CALL BULLSHAT!
For $300,000,000 you can hire 3,000 coppers @ $100,000/yr.
So if you bring a cop on the force for $100K "all in" including pension contributions, benefits, and training, then you could theoretically have zero OT...
We all know that won't be the case - shit happens, you need to have OT. But it'd likely be that response times would be improved, morale would improve because coppers wouldn't be worked to exhaustion and could get some time with the families on a regular basis, and crime would be reduced.
Oh well, nice pipe dream. Can't have shorter response times, better morale, or reduced crime in a blue shithole...
5:39pm I don't think anyone has an issue with folks being successful as a result of this job so coming on the blog to self promote yourself and diss haters? You must not have any friends.
10:55pm relax goof. They made the announcement that everyone had to be seated at 12:01 and they didn't let you start filling in bubbles until 1:15 because the lady read so slow, it took her an hour to get through the instructions for folks like yourself.
Way to many house mouses collecting overtime, put them on the street.
Congrats to the guy making over 200k and a mil in deferred comp- your careful planning and work ethic paid off ! Been retired for a few years, left with 1.4 in deferred ( over 2 now) made over 150k with OT, no mortgage, summer home, no
Payments etc… it can be done if you know how to do it . Stop the nay-saying and smarten up with your finances .
Based on a 2080 hour work year the 4,000,000 plus of overtime means you are short about 2,000 full time police officers.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
We can fix this immediately. STOP CANCELLING FUCKING RDOS
6/09/2024 08:27:00 PM
When was the last time you had an RDO canceled?
Unless you’re in a unit or on tact, probably pretty rare.
If you are on tact or in a unit and crying about RDOs cancelled, you may need to go back to a watch.
Snelling ready to cancel days off for 4th of July weekend,, the 4th on a Thursday
Oh well, nice pipe dream. Can't have shorter response times, better morale, or reduced crime in a blue shithole...
6/10/2024 03:56:00 AM
Your pipe dream, in these days of bidenomics, would require all of those 100 grand a year coppers to be without family to provide for, as 100 large these days is effectively barely covering basic livings costs with a family.
House mice need to be banned from signing up to work overtime
Anonymous said...
House mice need to be banned from signing up to work overtime
6/10/2024 09:43:00 PM
Uuuuhhhhh, nope. Sorry dummy, but seniority rules. You’ll have it some day unless you’re a snowflake who leaves the job early cuz you just can’t hack being an adult. So STFU until you have some time on the job, kid. In the meantime I’ll be taking as much or as little OT as I please. And good furloughs. And holidays off. And never a worry about getting days off.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Thanks to hella seniority in a very cush unit I make a shit ton of OT cheddar. And it ain’t going ANYWHERE. I’ve made well over 200K for the last several years. I have no mortgage, no car notes, no tuition payments. Over a mil in def comp and several other investments. I’m gonna bleed this place dry for 16 more months until I turn 55 and then bounce the fuck out. I’ve earned every thing I have, no merit, no phone call. So F all the haters… shut up and wait your turn.
6/09/2024 05:39:00 PM
Not a Cop. I CALL BULLSHAT!
6/09/2024 11:30:00 PM
Sit down, little squirrel, it can absolutely be done. Want to know who does it? The guy/gal driving the 2002 Toyota Corolla to work. Not the guy driving the brand new $90K+ vehicle. The guy who didn't buy a $450K house but bought a $200K house and did the improvements himself, then when his tax return came in he sunk every dollar on the principle. That IOD that sent him to surgery and kept him off 8 months? Yeah, that hella huge tax return went on it too.
When he had enough equity he felt solid on that house and had a pay off plan, he started looking for an escape place. A place not in Chicago, where sirens bring everyone outside to see what is going on. He didn't buy the biggest and the best, he bought what he could afford.
This is the guy who got into deferred comp in the academy. This is the gal that doesn't have fake nails and eyelashes because she knows it's a waste of money and she knows her husband/boyfriend/girlfriend will fuck her even without them. This is the guy that drives the rattiest vehicle in the parking lot because he doesn't need a Jeep, truck, BMW, Mercedes, etc to prove how big his dick is, he knows. It's the couple that doesn't have matching furniture throughout their home because function is more important than fashion.
Call bullshit all you want....and keep buying all the unnecessary shit and you will never be any better off than you are today. A $300K mortgage can be paid off in less than 6 years. I know, I've done it. And I may not have $1M in deferred comp yet, but I'm not far off. 18 years on, retiring at 20+suspension time, because I can. Two houses paid off, no CC debt, nothing. Just because there is money in the bank, doesn't mean you get to spend it. Get your shit together, and if you don't know how, ask the guy/gal driving the shittiest car in the lot, they might know.
.....and if you don't know how, ask the guy/gal driving the shittiest car in the lot, they might know.
6/11/2024 06:36:00 AM
To which they would likely reply, mind your own business, use your own brain, you figure it out and, maybe, huh?
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