Manpower Crisis?
Who would have though this could happen!?!?!
- [...] About 950 of the more than 5,750 people hired by the Chicago Police Department since 2016 no longer are on the job. Their average time with the department? Not even three years.
[...] Many have moved on to other police jobs. But nearly 90 have been fired or resigned while under investigation. At least another 21 have died, including seven who were killed in the line of duty and two shot to death while off duty; four who died by suicide; four killed in off-duty accidents; and four as a result of natural causes.
Of the officers who left the Chicago Police Department since 2016, the Sun-Times found that 320 now work for other police agencies, mostly in the suburbs. Almost 90 moved to the Chicago Fire Department, something that police veterans say rarely happened in past generations.
City and state employment figures don’t account for possibly hundreds more Chicago cops who’ve moved to out-of-state police agencies in states like Florida, whose governor has been personally involved in recruiting officers from Illinois and New York.
Who could have seen this coming?
(besides an "insignificant" blog, run by coppers, who were sounding the alarm on this over a decade ago....why would anyone listen to people working within the system for almost three decades?)
Thank goodness Frank Main "uncovered" the crisis!
He actually had two articles running under his byline yesterday. The other was about young cops dying or getting fired at increasingly troublesome rates:
(long story about a nutjob who shouldn't have been hired in the first place....)
The findings underscore a staffing crisis that affects nearly every facet of the Chicago Police Department’s operations. With far fewer people applying to become cops, experts say Chicago can’t afford to be as picky as in the past in screening out marginal candidates who might cause problems after they’re hired.
Yeah, we and dozens of our readers warned that lower hiring standards was going to result in untold numbers of scandals across the board, ranging from bribe taking to Summerdale-style burglars to gang infiltration to murders.
Lo and behold, Frank Main "discovers" what we all knew, predicted and warned about. He really ought to signing over part of his check to us.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
72 Comments:
Fuck reading the Scum Times.
I hope the Marxist rag goes out of business and all the socialist SCUM working there starve.
That's gotta be the easiest job in the world.....
Read blog....
Write for scum times....
Paper has 5 years rips, trib maybe 10.
Good luck looking for a job.
The biggest problem with our job is promoting idiots.
The motto under Shortshanks was”Excellence Through Diversity”. There were several scandals of those diverse excellent officers getting caught for burglary, home invasion, robbery, rape, etc. Some even worked with other coppers. Garbage in, garbage out.
Sgt. Friday ...."'When a man signs on the job, a lot of things come with the badge. The risk, the pay, the hours he works. One thing that isn't regulation issue; his personal feelings.
There's no way of regulating an officer's thoughts when he's on an investigation. He becomes hardened at the sight of a dead human being, to the grotesque, the hideous, to man's inhumanity, his almost casual ability to murder.
To take another's life. Once in a great while, an officer's knees bend; if they buckle, he's been on the job too long."
They need to hire more police, they need to do a better job hiring the ones that they do hire. This place is fucked up!!! Promote better.
Hiring standards so low a female with one year on already on maternity out of wedlock in a car with a few known gangbangers gets into fender bender with off duty blue island with a shooting ensuing. Great!
It’s the same for CFD paramedics. Leaving in droves for the burbs or a red state where they feel safe and don’t have to deal with the usual suspects anymore.
some clown that posted “that’s a small number in 8 years for turnover”. What they do not understand is CPD was a job everyone got on and never left. People rarely left for other police jobs, now we have people throwing in the towel on law enforcement all together.
“ Migrant crisis cost $150B in 2023, forcing some areas to cut police and fire services: report”
By Isabel Vincent
Published Oct. 23, 2024, 6:46 p.m. ET. NewYorkPost.com
Yeah, we and dozens of our readers warned that lower hiring standards was going to result in untold numbers of scandals across the board, ranging from bribe taking to Summerdale-style burglars to gang infiltration to murders.
Is the statue of limitations still in effect? Asking for a friend...
Is the suntimes trying to become a newspaper??
My favorite idiocy is promoting idiots who get to promote idiots. You can’t make that shit up, and only in Chicago
“Hey! What did I say about demonizing? “……….Mayor LetsGoBrandon Johnson.
Let the obvious bite you in the ass.
Thank leftist politicians
Egotistical mayors
Career politicians
Corrupt piliticians
Corrupt teachers union
Lowered hiring standards
Weak managers
Self serving media manipulation
Race hustling opportunists, activists and lawyers
People dumb enough to keep being manipulated to vote for Democrat candidates!
A perfect storm, stop believing the liars
Drop the standards even lower, pension needs guys paying in.
This is all as planned. Its indirectly defunding the police. Make the job so un bearable no one wants it or will stay in it. Meanwhile the FOP does virtually nothing
2 years ago yoyo was quoted saying:
“So when they say, you know, ‘Oh, you’re basically going to dumb down your department,’ no, we’re not. We’re offering an opportunity that would not be available to you if you did not join the Chicago Police Department. That’s my biggest selling point,” she said.
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2022/12/01/chicago-police-leaders-say-applications-have-increased-in-2022-amid-national-cop-staffing-shortage/
What say you now, dipshit? Not only did you help dumb down the department but you brought it hundreds of questionable hires that will cost the city millions in the long run. You are a fucking joke yoyo.
I left when I turned 50. Fuck this half ass department. The coppers were great but when you get zero support from the mayor and COPA has free rein with no checks or balances I'm done.
I was one that bailed out of this place, found another non police job and couldn't be happier. I wasn't going to work 29 and a day then die 6 months after I retired. If Kackler wins I'm going to feel really sorry for all you. The war on the police will become even worse than it is now.
The same shit heads we were doing contact cards on in the early 2000's are now walking the halls of Homan. There is even a Sgt on a DEA task force who's brother is a active gang member. But hey, he's heavy so its okay. The situation is desperate because there is no one left to hire. Police are the problem. The world is up side down. Not too long ago we were the good guys. Chase a guy with a gun, have it pointed at you, shoot him, and get fired.
Sounds like a lot of them went to the free training and then were too cowardly to work in Chicago and bail to the suburbs.
still remember when sitting in home room at academy in the mid 80's we compared what out test scores were to get on. all of us non-dei hires were in the 90's and up range while the dei's were in the 70's range, back then the city actually gave you your score from the test. back then they called it a quota
Open up laterals & no residency requirements
Maybe it has to do with DEI hires. Maybe a college degree doesn’t hold up as it once did. I mean how many more physiology or sociology majors does this department need. You might as well say, you aren’t qualified to hold any job, let alone be responsible for citizen safety with those bs degrees. Maybe it has to do with lowered standards. Maybe it has to do with the fact how society (Democrats) have demonized all police. Let’s face it kids today are soft. I’ll take a 1990’s 21 year old high school graduate who worked as a mechanic over a 21 year 2018-2023 part time barista college graduate with a liberal arts degree. The kids today are not the police. Maybe it’s my generations fault for spoiling them at home.
Remember they started lowering the standards in the 60’s.We we’re all hired under lower standards.
Not to worry…
The illegal aliens who were welcomed to our Sanctuary City will take the police jobs that the lazy Americans won’t.
Pensions moving forward to be paid in pesos at the current exchange rate.
How many times has someone on the job explained a thousand times to a boss: A) how things are screwed up, and B) how to fix the problem. Only to be dismissed and told, "You don't know what you're talking about." Then on 1001st time, the boss finally understands. The boss then takes credit for someone else's idea and gets promoted. The Sun Times is simply following the same script.
Totally agree. The majority of them are morons.
Spot on! This place is messed up!
This is Exactly what happened, needs to be talked about more. I wish your statement could go viral!
That is what I was thinking. Everything going isn’t by accident!
Me too!
Well said!
When I was in the academy, they posted the test scores by SSA number. No one knew who ranked where.
Ppos already causing problems. Young ghetto hoodlums are now 12! And have not left the ghetto behind them. Finna lock you up if you keep yapping.
Monty the piping plover has more rights than any police officer in this town.
It's not about dei, standards etc. New police officers can't afford to buy a house north of Lawrence. After all deductions and measly 60k on hand, new POS can only afford south side or 25th with crappy schools and gang activity. May as well work private sector with safe neighborhood and decent schools.
You hit the nail on the head, Quota ,DEI,required 25% of every class to be from CPS . Look at top heavy command staff,most spent less than 5 years in District Patrol,fake degrees from diploma mills. Get back to 70’s Vietnam Veterans,High School graduates that wanted to be the police,save the world. Not the wamsy,pansy recruitment that offer diversity,inside assignments. Nobody wanted to work inside in the 70’s. Now promotions based on good oral skills inside the office,under the desk.
STOP canceling people’s days off!!!!! We are tired of the bullshit!!! Having the extra manpower doesn’t do anything other killing morale. It doesn’t prevent crime from happening, these people don’t care if we are standing right in front of them when they commit a crime, they know we are handcuffed. Our mere presence is no longer effective, thanks to the democrats
Totally agree with the pointing the gun part. Just leave it holstered and use time as a tactic
Time to disband caps, tact, and mission teams. Stack the watches and flood the district streets with blue and whites. Presence is our only tool now. Let them see policemen in their soup.
Vote democrat for more....
...and don't forget Trump's is Hitler.
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just come out and say it....I don't understand Polish.
I bailed after 8 years, thank god I had an old degree to land me another job. My Lt., who pulled more CRs on officers than he could actually count up to, including one on his own BROTHER drove me outta there. Hear he’s in 020 now, good luck with that douchebag, boys. Leave as soon as you can! Best decision of my life.
Like you said, you raised us so we are how we because of you…not to mention if you are a copper from 1980-90, your actions and how you policed then is a direct correlation to the scrutiny we have now, so thank you for that. We are not the police today? alright don’t call us when someone suspicious is lurking around your yard, obviously we’re not the police.
You be quite and work Festival of Lights !!! and by the way, I'll need 80 dollars for a Christmas party. Yes, pay for your own party. Hey, that cold chicken on a paper plate with a plastic fork ain't gonna pay for itself.
I am trying to help with the crisis. I am waiting to get rehired. Do not get me wrong, I am glad that I was not rehired in time for the DNC. Still, the FOP is not doing anything about it. It is time to rehire the police officers who want to come back and help out with the manpower crisis.
I am about to quit. Add one to that list. I earned a few graduate degrees, while on the job, not from the diploma mills. And I already cleared the 2 year payback period for the tuition. All of you who are miserable, take advantage of the tuition reimbursement program and do not go to the diploma mills. The opportunities that you earn (with the degrees) are more valuable than any amount of overtime that you can work or any promotion that is available to you.
Everyone, save your pennies. Do not blow your money on high car payments. Make it to 20 years and asses your options.
ummmmm,,,, nope, you are wrong,,,, the whites,,,, the males and females were hired based on test scores not quotas,,,, the standards were only lowered for the others,,,,,,
Uhhhh. Care to share who the jagoff is so we can stay clear?
??Uhhh.. Care to share..."
Seriously, WTF--you cant figure out which (if any) LT in 020 has a brother on the job--and pulls alot of CRS.....
Our presence doesn’t interfere with crime . They do what they want to do and know they will get away with it … can’t disban caps , it’s in the consent decree that we are stuck with for many more years to come .
The worst 8 years of your life but yet here you are on the blog crying about nonsense.
The Suburbs got your back.
I have to laugh at the poster stating that cops are leaving because they cannot afford to move north of Lawrence. Do you really believe what you are saying? Last time I checked, most P.O.'s made more than Sgt.'s with OT, many made Commander's pay. Knock off the nonsense. In the 2000's, I started at 33.5K with no OT options. Furthermore, knock off the idiocy that the only place to live is north of Lawrence. Shit is everywhere nowadays in this city, but I am always amused at northside coppers who act like their neighborhood is the ONLY neighborhood. I agree that some neighborhoods up north are nice, but I personally wouldn't live in every neighborhood north of Lawrence.
There is NO crisis. The communist party of Obama created the problem for a reason. It’s called Ballot Harvesting and you can bet your sweet sweet snookie that while every illegal alien won’t physically vote, there will be ballot harvested by James Clyburns network of AME churches in every swing state cast for CUMala Heels Up Harris.
So it took Frank about a decade to put together and understand all of the info from the blog. Just another turd letting everyone else do the leg work.
Same. Came on in 95 at $33.5K and managed just fine. Also our pay scale was not front loaded like it is now so it took a long time to ramp up to decent pay. Court and CTA were the only hustles on the job so OT was slim pickings.
The biggest difference I can say between us then and you young guys now is the parking lots were not filled with luxury vehicles, monster Jeeps and Harleys. The guys and girls that I came on with prioritized housing and family and didn’t worry about flash.
29 and a day a little more than a month away! We made it 95-8 class!
What are you talking about... Per the lying no balls white shirts and lying POS media we have 13500 Police officers. Oh wait the real number is 8838 Right you no balls white shirts
In Arizona...Glendale. El Mirage, Buckeye, Peoria, Surprise, Phoenix, Are always looking for laterals. Leave that shit hole anyway you can. Florida is always looking as well.
You are contradicting yourself. You want to come back and help out with the manpower crisis, but you were glad you were no rehired in time for the DNC. That might have been been a good time to help out with the manpower
Hiring idiots and idiots that really don’t want the job is right up there for the biggest problem
The writer forgot to mention the totally corrupt promotion process that elevated to leadership rolls incompetent and stupid people.
"Totally agree with the pointing the gun part. Just leave it holstered and use time as a tactic"
Wise words to follow.
Got a bunch to leave with the forced JAB BS. Then a ton more with a all of the migrants sleeping in the police stations
For many years, the City of Chicago (City) used civilian timekeepers to track hours
worked by its police officers, sergeants and lieutenants (referred to collectively as “officers”) and
consistently paid them overtime when they worked over 171 hours in a 28-day pay period. (SOF,
¶29-35). Things had changed dramatically by the time the City launched its Violence Reduction
Initiative (VRI) program and other “case-related programs”1 in 2012. The major change took
place in 2010 when the City implemented a different system of recording work hours in case
related programs and used that system for what was known as Operation Safe City, the
predecessor program to VRI. (SOF, ¶74). The City’s actions effectively created two separate
timekeeping systems, one for work associated with an officer’s regular job and the other for
case-related program work. (SOF, ¶29-37; 74, 75). Because the two systems did not
communicate with each other, the result was that the City failed to count hours worked on the
case-related programs towards the FLSA’s overtime threshold and paid some officers who
worked more than the FLSA’s 171-hour threshold in a 28-day period at a lower overtime rate
than the FLSA demands. (Id.).
This lawsuit was filed on December 4, 2015. (Dkt. No.1). In February 2016, after it was
served in this matter, the City reverted to its previous timekeeping practices and no longer
excludes hours worked on case-related programs from the calculation of FLSA hours worked.
(SOF, ¶62). Nearly all the other case-related programs were brought into conformity in the
months that followed, concluding in October of 2016. (Id.). This lawsuit seeks damages from
June 1, 2012, for the FLSA and IMWL claims and from November 21, 2006, for the IWPCA
claim in count II.
10/26/2024 04:33:19 PM
Hit the nail on the head. Not all, but many of these old timers were reckless animals in their day that now the current membership pays the price for. Any retirees (still residing here) who call themselves the real police should handle their problems without calling 911. You're getting paper gramps/grandma, nothing more. Well maybe a 19PZ, you delusional fossils.
I have to laugh at the poster stating that cops are leaving because they cannot afford to move north of Lawrence. Do you really believe what you are saying? Last time I checked, most P.O.'s made more than Sgt.'s with OT, many made Commander's pay. Knock off the nonsense. In the 2000's, I started at 33.5K with no OT options. Furthermore, knock off the idiocy that the only place to live is north of Lawrence. Shit is everywhere nowadays in this city, but I am always amused at northside coppers who act like their neighborhood is the ONLY neighborhood. I agree that some neighborhoods up north are nice, but I personally wouldn't live in every neighborhood north of Lawrence.
10/27/2024 08:25:01 AM
ok give us a good neighborhood not north of say lawrence or foster. Beverly? ya, right. Good luck to you.
are you saying bidenomics ain't working ?????
Wow. What else is there to say. Retirees working in the 80’s and 90’s could have said the same things about officers working in the 60’s and 70’s but didn’t Sounds like a new do nothing hire looking for another excuse to do nothing
10/29/2024 11:04:24 AM
Just stating facts. But you go and do you. see how many of us ddonate $$$ to you cause you're taking days or having a 10-1 benefit. Gamble that button away, pal.
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