Grading a Test....How Long?
Someone commented that the recent Lieutenant test was taken nearly six weeks ago and no results have been mailed out yet?
Anyone know why they're fiddling with the rankings?
Was this the scantron portion?
Labels: promotions
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
98 Comments:
Lt? Who cares. The Sgt’s who took the test all ready know what the score is.
CFD laughs at 6 weeks.
It’s only been a month since the 2nd half. The first half they posted the scan-tron answers the same day!
The Roulette Wheel, for the position of the top ranking Transgender/DEI hire, broke.
This is how the testing companies do it.
They employ SME’s (subject matter experts) who grade the exams based on certain criteria.
Let’s also say the testing company has 10 subject matter experts (SME) grading tests.
Let’s say also that each SME grades 2 tests a day, 5 days per week.
That’s 20 tests graded a day, totaling 100/week.
800 people took the exam, that’s 8 weeks to grade them all.
Then, the testing company reports back to the city HR and department OPSA HR with the results and if it’s within pre-determined guidelines set forth by the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (have to have ethnic minorities score at certsin percentages). If not, certain questions that, let’s say a certain ethnic/racial group all missed are weighted less.
Once things satisfy all parties, the results are given to the masses.
How about a post about guessing who are the merits in that first class? Doucheherst from Mass Trans said DeVries is still gonna promote him. Ive got plenty more guesses… Wedsters idiot son, Richarsons moronic daughter, another of Snellings dollies?
Because they still have people off the old list they need to make.
1 more class off the old list, then they will release the answers for the new list, then the Merit Packages will be announced.
“ Anyone know why they're fiddling with the rankings?
They have always fiddled, and always will. You are not to question that.
Off Topic
“ NYPD releases photos of snowball-wielding suspects with facial hair after Mamdani claims attackers were 'kids'
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Published February 24, 2026 7:35pm EST V I D E O
Lying Mayor Commie Mandami says it was just a snowball fight. Except the police were not throwing snow balls and the “perps” were not children. The police in NYC need to think of some kind of a job action.
They have to find out which of their connected people didn’t pass then lower the passing bar to give them a passing score
Incompetence,
Statistical manipulation,
Fixing for desired results,
Incompetence?
All of the abouve?
Part 2 of the Lt test was oral and given January 10th. Must be pretty new to be surprised the results aren't out yet.
Hell, they even sent out the results of every test take after part 1. How many passed, failed, what exact score they got, etc. The most legit I've ever seen.
It takes time to listen to responses. It was oral. And you have to grade it on a curve too, for the DEI people.
Conehead still has to match the "B" on the personnel file and adjust the scores.
Maybe it takes longer than just ranking 1-2-3-4! And here maybe a reason why:
When officers study for a promotional exam, most assume the process is simple:
Take the test. Score it. Rank candidates 1, 2, 3, 4 — and promote in that order.
In large municipal departments promotional systems can be more complex.
What Is “Diversity-Conscious Selection”?
Rather than ranking candidates strictly from highest to lowest score, some promotional processes use “score banding.”
Instead of publishing a list that reads 91.3, 90.8, 90.2, 89.9, candidates may be grouped into score ranges such as:
• 90–95
• 85–89
• 80–84
Within each band, candidates are considered statistically comparable in exam performance.
Once grouped, the appointing authority may evaluate additional factors beyond the written score, including:
• Leadership performance
• Disciplinary history
• Specialized experience
• Operational needs of the department
• Diversity considerations
• Race or gender as one factor among many
This framework is often referred to as diversity-conscious selection.
Large law enforcement agencies operate under:
• Federal civil rights law
• Equal Employment Opportunity regulations
• Past consent decrees and litigation
• Community trust considerations
After the U.S. Supreme Court decision in Ricci v. DeStefano (2009), departments were reminded that they cannot simply discard test results based on racial outcomes. However, the ruling did not eliminate all diversity considerations — it clarified the legal boundaries.
As a result, many cities moved toward structured banding systems rather than pure numerical ranking.
So it takes awhile to rank who the department wants in the top tiers.
They will be set out with the Tax Bill!!!
Testing?? Really? All CPD testing is a joke, its all just for merits.
How long have you been on the job? This par for the course. As soon as they see it’s mostly white male making up the top of the list, they ll knock out another class.
They have to make sure a certain demographic scores is the top ten first
For anyone taking the detective exam. You probably had a postcard placed on your car from a testing company called Ten One Academy.
It's another police testing company like J. Harris Training or Bernstein.
Do not buy anything from these testing companies. Why? Because no one knows the format of part two of the exam. Part two of all promotional exams are now going to be assessments and the assessment is not based on the source material. If it's not based on the source material then what is it based on? Well only the testing company knows.
The fix is in. As if the entire testing process was not legitimate as it is now. The CPD decides to make it even more corrupt.
The entire promotional exam process needs a complete overhaul. Here is one way it can be fair. 1. Based the test on the orders and laws. 2. The source material is given one year out in advance. 3. One exam. Multiple choice with six responses and fill in the blanks. 4. As soon as you are done, the exam is passed through the scan tron machine in front of you.
it takes time to fill out all those dei requests,,, you know,,, sometimes that "he" identifies as a "she" or a "non-binary" and the department has to try and get a certain amount of those
All of these exams are bullshit. None of these are real for if they were, you’d be able to access them for scrutiny and inspection.
I remember when my partner left CPD for Denver and when he took the test in Denver he was given his test score before he walked out of the room. I couldn't believe it and from then on it definitely convinced me the manipulation involved with our testing process.
Forget about it! Take the summers off instead. CPD is corrupt and since they’ve wasted your time studying. Waste theirs.
I have my company executive's going over the test results now and we will soon release our unbiased promotion list:
Sincerely:
R. Venecko
CEO Venecko Consulting Inc
More like 6 years !
Zoolander is a POS. If he would have gotten a snowball in the puss it would have been call the FBI, aggravated battery, hate crime, etc... It would not have been kids just having a snowball fight who should not face charges.
6 weeks for results on a Lt exam? try 6 months to a year. Did you just arrive in Chicago?
I thought Ruthie's kid was pretty sharp.
I take it promotional exams are no longer called “The Irish sweepstakes “?
Yawn, another day and yet another MASS shooting in Chicago. Thanks Brandon, maybe you can deploy some of your bodyguard detail to help the police on the street.
As many people have said before- part 1 of any test should be a 70%.
It’s the same for e-learning, it earns you a “C” grade in school a lot of the time, and it shows a bare minimum of competence.
Our city cannot claim to want effective supervisors and leadership if the bar for promotion is set near 50%.
Police can’t do their jobs anymore. Last thing we need is more incompetent supervisors.
Whatchu talk'n bout Willis! Same day!?!?
Hey, I don't do young, but N!ck was a fun hiccup :)
Just make sure you "Notify the watch commander".
A friend is a PO in a suburb. Their Sgt test has 4 parts: multiple choice Scantron, Make a List, Essay, and Merit Board Oral Interview. You get points for each and candidates are place in rank order based on those points. The kicker is that the Chief can (and does) just pick the next Sgt from anywhere on the list. A candidate could be #1 and never get promoted.
Test score manipulation has always been an issue. Took a few Sgt. Exams in the 80s through the 2000s. In ome test the city hired a prominent prestigious accounting firm (later collapsed due ethical irregularities) to process the scores. The accounting firm sent out letters with the test scores. So did the city. They didn't match.
Get your envelopes ready
Denver cries about the same thing. You made it all up moron.
Once they actually establish a list, the old one MUST come down and they cannot promote off of it.
They must be looking at the current list to see if any high exempts need someone from that one.
ChatGPT is your source. You new kids can’t formulate your own thoughts. Scary!!
It takes time to rub a little patronage here and a lot of DEI there.
They have to figure out the cheat
They might not make more off the old list. It depended on who on it and who’s on the new list
Ha! It took the Chicago Fire Department FOUR YEAS to grade a Lieutenants test
Merit dummy. It’s been more than a month. Test was Jan 10th. It’s Feb 26th. If you can add up weeks you will get the answer.
Io solutions graded the tests the first week of February in Palm Springs Florida.
They were looking for assessors.
In 2013, it almost a year to get our results from part two and several other classes were "made" before the results were released.
It’s Sgt GOOSEHEARST. Grow a pair keyboard warrior
Don't worry about it, Merit people are already getting Lt bars sewed on uniforms. Watch and see units and districts. The anointed ones are the Commanders buddies and or family or right demographic. I'm sure it will be some sergeant that only works the desk and isn't a leader. Never does an actual hardworking sergeant have a chance to make it. Let's just get it over with so I can try to make it again on the next test.
They really should stop saying "oral exam." Maybe say "verbal exam" instead...
I refuse to take these ex(scams). Yes, you can be promoted on score. Yes, the pay is better. But when you zoom out, most exams for po’s have 3000 to 4000 people taking them. Out of them, you have your merit who will end up in a nice spot. You will also have people who score well but are also connected, who will also get a nice spot.
If you have no merit chance or are not connected, even if you score well, you’ll most likely end up in the shittiest spot of whatever you just got promoted to. If you’re already in a shitty spot, then you have nothing to lose. If you’re in a fairly decent spot, then taking the promotion might not be all that great.
Also take advantage of the school reimbursement from the department. Learn something actually useful. Always have an exit plan.
Just remember...everything is legit. Now go get me some blue cards. Theres nothing to see here. Meanwhile in a room at HQ CPD brass is trying to figure out how they get more of their merit nominations promoted.
Like anything else, the fix is in.
Bernstein emailed this out on January 16th:
Regarding Part 2 scoring, my understanding is that the assessment will be scored by five separate assessment teams, with one team assigned to each exercise. Results are expected in late March.
Same as property tax billings.
It took 6 months to grade the last two Sgt’s exams (Part 2). 6 weeks is nothing.
The ET test was scantron and it took 4 months
This month is February, last month was January.
1 month.
Coming to the blog to debate semantics anonymously, miserable bastard.
Clearly you failed.. all ready????? It’s already. God help this department.
There’s no more blue cards
well,,,, us dollies in the caps office just love when the commander wants an oral exam
"Notify The WC"... John Northen just spun a few times in his grave.
Rest in Peace Northside, you served us well.
Who cares! You’re NOT gonna make it anyway!
Heard from a reliable source at WGN that it costs fifty grand to "make" lieutenant.
Speaking of a long time, what is going on with the dispatchers at the OEMC? Has anyone been fired? Someone asked this question in a previous discussion, “does the discharged loan have to be reported as income?” The answer is yes (for the majority of the dispatchers and everyone else who fraudulently obtained the loan or improperly used the loan proceeds). Mr. Tax Man, please set up shop at the Chicago OEMC to get your numbers, you will earn a promotion, rise through the ranks, and make a name for yourself. “She gone! You miss me long time?
that's cause they cheated
OT-damned cultural differences: https://abc7chicago.com/post/nurul-amin-shah-alam-blind-man-taken-ice-facility-dies-border-patrol-dropped-off-ny-police-investigating/18654724/
Sounds like Addison
OT-love to see them try: https://denverite.com/2026/02/26/denver-mayor-police-arrest-ice-executive-order/
“We aint doin nothing you been doin fo years. We just ain’t as sophisticated.”
E. Johnson
Sgt. Doucherst from mass transit says he's in!
They will make a class off old list - class is in April and they are 27 short
You wish you had chat GBT maybe you’d take better notes than and pass a test you hater
Where the hell is Barz when you need to him? I’m told I’m going to be promoted.
We're screwed
surely the chief will always make a sound and neutral decision without worrying about nepotism or cronyism.
Check out the big brain on Brad!
It takes the same amount of time that it takes to Merit promote an Officer to Sergeant? First you go to the bank and withdraw a large amount of cash! Then you find the exempt rank command officer or civilian director and invite him to lunch or dinner? Then you turn over the cash to this alleged leader within the CPD. At which time this alleged leader makes several calls seeing how many spots are merit and how many are rank scores? Where they find a spot for this officer to fit on the list? This could take months to years?
As for Sergeant to Lieutenant, they have already cut out the first parts of finding an exempt so it shortens the time? But now the cash needed is more and the assignment after the silver bar award is more important……
I come from three generation on CPD and when my grandfather was still alive the exempt rank officer had his Sergeant or Officer be the bag guy accepting the money. But now someone has to write up the merit request…..which is the best paper writer in exempt office?
Ask me how I know?
Congress might have exempted this cancelled debt as income. This happened to short sales and other debt relief after thr housing crisis. Normally, all canelled debt is taxed as income.
The people who grade the test are called assessors.
I was promoted to lt years ago off the list, which is why I am still a lt off the list
LOL..you listen to anyone at WGN?? The We Got Nothing station.
They are trying to manipulate the order of the candidates to make sure the first class doesn't all come from the same promotion study group. We know they have the answers already.
Promoting Chicago values since 1837
less than 600 took part 2. would've been under 400 ,but conehead allowed a 64% score to be considered passing. must be a westside buddy.
no more will be made from the old list
goosebag say he's in next lt class
it took three years to get a list out from the 1985 test and still had to reach back for black and hiispanic sergeants.
how many caps officers in the 3rd district? a few have great oral skills.
Who didn’t see THAT coming from Mamdami !
I propose a Test Grading Party, hosted by the Keesing Bandit, in his pretty loft, with plenty of white wine spritzers.
In 1995 Mayor created merit for his dummy friends from Bridgeport. He included blacks and Hispanic sergeants equally. Now it’s might be one white to ten black merits and a few Hispanics .
How do you grade the test? It isn't fair. It is subjective.
Please keep them out of the front office
Plainfield does same thing. They can skip up three spots for a list that might last less than three years.
Only the top 100 testers received test results.
What’s the sense of being a merit hack if you can’t be a proud merit hack ?
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