Nice Manpower Conehead
Wasn't the "Consent" Decree going to fix all this?
Down Cars:
- Early side - 1215, 1225, 1233, 1235, 1271
- Late side - 1232, 1234, 1214A
We list 1234 as "down" because they're actually driving the late Wagon, so they're not really a beat car any more.
One Man Cars that should be 10-4 Units:
- 1211, 1212, 1213, 1214, 1221, 1222, 1223, 1224, 1231
So what should be Watch manned by about thirty-five Officers was on the streets with eleven Officers - around 31% of listed strength. - on a Saturday night.
Completely safe and efficient!
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
101 Comments:
Should see the sheets in 011 lately. Absolutely pathetic how low the manpower is.
Lovin the OT tho
This is citywide.
Some districts have 2 cars on the late side. Wagons are working two tasks, beat car and transports.
2-3 cars on a sector with 1 or 2 Sgts per Watch.
We are doing more with less.
Personnel have been getting hurt but nobody cares.
Future looks like two 12-hour watches.
More PPO than PO. What's all these foot posts ?
Saturday night ? Look at the start times man.
Station security is gone too.
I can tell by the vehicle numbers that they are driving some pretty old cars too. Am I wrong?
The Chicago Police Department is in a crisis. I predict this summer medial use will increase to numbers never seen before. Manpower issues, bosses out of touch with reality, low moral, no support, restrictive policies, disgruntled employees and criminal's not held highly accountable, it’s all a recipe for disaster.
The department will need to get the fop to agree to 12 hours shifts. This lack of manpower isn’t sustainable. I am not for 12 hour shifts. We hold the chips. We need to stick together. These young offices need to wake up and listen to some of us veterans. They would be the ones all for 12 hour shift because they don’t have kids or a spouse. Not all of them but a lot of the younger officers don’t have kids and they seem to only think in the moment and not about the future.
Been like this for a while now. Too many full duty officers hiding in units and inside spots while the beats are undermanned
As a new LT of a particular afternoon watch on the news side of the city o don't have much to say about that except the piece about low police staffing in Chicago severely damagesv is prosperity and growth. It causes slower response times and rising crime, driving businesses and residents to leave which leads me into another piece related to how that will no doubt shrink the tax base, lower property values, and reduces economic activity/ investment. Then there's another piece concerning big and small companiess incurring higher security and insurance costs, while pieces liketourism, retail, and nightlife decline. Overworked officers face burnout and turnover, worsening the shortage, then there's the medical to pieces I don't even want to get into. The city develops a lasting negative reputation that deters investment and talent. Last piece, chronic under policing creates a self-reinforcing cycle of disorder, population loss, and economic decline. --the wise O
PRT will help and all the useless 81 teams
Pity the citizens do not understand that the their tax dollars are not being used to fund the PD.
One third street patrol officers is not what people want, pay taxes for or voted for.
Democrats lie, and have gotten worse with the last few election cycles.
Time to throw them Out, vote them out, if you live here your safety depends on it!
Wise up Dump Democrats
012: Foot Posts guys H,L,C should just retire. They spend 4 hours in the gym working out. Waste of manpower… just leave 012 please you guys are useless. They have no shame! Shame on the Bosses that allow this. The PO’s coming out of early and late roll call sees it and of course doesn’t look good. The Sgt’s won’t call them out either!! Even 500 knew about it back then and surprisingly never said anything to them! Also, the former Commander J.B should’ve gotten rid of the bike and entertainment teams. Another waste of manpower. How about working a full shift on a beat car. They can’t do anything different than a beat car. Let’s end this with the 3 person mission team. Seriously why are they even there. They are NOT Detectives! Let the real Detectives do their job. I’m sure 2nd watch could use them
As a rapid. The REAL problem is supervision and DECISION MAKING by the person in charge of 012…. The Captain! The former Commander allowed the Bike and Entertainment Teams and the 3 Useless Foot guys to exist. I highly doubt the Captain will make any changes. So…. Don’t complain about why the sheets look so bad on 2nd 3rd and midnights. Now let me continue to push my beat car.
just sit in the parking lot and wait for a call,,,, no foot chase, no car chase, no vehicle stops, no name checks, no public inter-action equals no complaints from criminals, the fake rev-runs and the social justice warriors
WOW!!!
Reminds me of old Mikey Shields in 18. Was the park car in 18. Would go workout after roll call at a gym and not in the station 🤔. Would then hang out in thel ocal taverns and restaurants and call it a day. Life was definitely hard after leaving FOP.
The 12th District is way way too big now too and just an extension of downtown. Too much vehicle traffic, too many hospitals and too many large event spaces that could go sideways with an active shooter or unruly crowd. Try to get from the station to the north end of the district on a Friday or Saturday evening. Thank God the 14th District assists on backup calls but this is becoming untenable and 014 has there own problems.
If your that short, all caps officers and inside officers who aren’t bids should be filling the beat cars.
12 hour shift has been the goal and in the making for a while now. They had to let the 9161 rank get to such desperate levels that there would be no other choice.
Just take your time going to calls and esp doing paper...fuck the public, you can only do so much. Let the taxpayers bitch about response time, esp for the bullshit calls that tie up the 911 system
Consent decree for retard judges that can’t do their job. More training for them.
Exactly...dont stress out, one job at at time
If you think its bad now, wait till summer kicks in full force..youll have Furloughs, Medical, Iod, the bullshit Training which never ends and the large amount of Details that will take additional officers away from the districts.
There are foot posts but no beat cars??? Its all legit.
You must be a merit promotion from your post
All the cars are shit..the only ones with nice cars are the units that do NOTHING..go figure.
Bring back posting the sheets for the summer.
We are so short because bosses still want to take care of their people and side pieces even though we have a lot less manpower than we used to. A lot of wasted spaces and units doing nothing. Put everyone on beat cars and just give the people paper cause that’s all the city wants you to do. Work where you live and protect your area. Who cares about the rest cause they certainly don’t care about you!!
The best advice I ever got from the old timers when I came on was " if you're not laughing everyday you're doing something wrong on this job "--- You can only be in one place at a time. Handle calls properly and let the bosses worry about the RAP.
But wagons are treated like beat cars.
Wait until the Obama Center opens. Cars will be detailed from outside districts for "crowd control." -lol-
Can someone post the sheets for the midnight basketball unit so we can see their manpower?
Every district is like that. Officers going from call to call with no breaks ever. Trying to get paper done and dispatchers keep calling them for more jobs so paper falls behind. They also try to use Sgt’s as beat cars and that’s a problem because then who’s doing the supervising. Stop sending officers on the bs jobs to help lighten the load and end all units , caps, and tact teams. They are all useless anyways. Put them on beat cars
Sure sign all holidays will be rdo cancel again this summer. Get your best lie together for your to/froms and plan ahead. If denied than hit medical. Sit in your yard and relax. THEY don’t care about you!!
Dump academy personnel and send them to 012 where we need the manpower.
They still have foot posts? At least they workout.
100%. Or find a hole and stay put until you get called.
001 is worse than that on 3rd watch and there’s barely any OT offered while there are plenty of downed beat cars and
99 units. It’s a major downtown district and there are no foot units, no traffic car, and no park car? All the commander and captain are worried about is chasing the next promotion while keeping unit OT costs down while PO’s are running themselves ragged daily in a backlog. Morale there is in the gutter and people are bidding out any chance they can.
The manpower can improve. Any available inside spot should be in a squad car at least for half the tour. If we can do elearning in a squad car, you can do your secretary work from a squad car. District intelligence, Watch secretary, time keeper, time keeper assistant. Troubled buildings officer, district affinity officers. Tact secretary. Have only 1 caps officer by bid. Have only 1 sdsc officer by bid. Put the rest on fixed posts and they can do their work from their phones or at least have them available for assignment during change times. All tact to marked cars. Mission team back to watch. If down cars still exist, back fill with tact. In a rap I believe, tact is to handle calls then the supervisors. Probably don't wanna go there. Easy fix, your welcome.
Hey LT. How about proof reading your post...........................
As a Sgt, I’ll agree with you about their supervisor not calling them out. I give folks on the watch a little leeway because I was a p.o and played the game to a certain extent. However, there’s a difference between running a job into your lunch and being down excessively while you work out. It’s not cool to the rest of the people on the watch and should be addressed
I recall back in the early 70's, the Police Wives Association did a sit down and a lay down in the 007 District station to protest one man cars on 1st and 3rd watch. It was effective.
Should look at the sheets in 9 there are 6 coppers at the desk on every watch
Don’t forget the uppity downtown’s and north sides who think they know more than you
Its called defunding the police, did people believe Johnson when he said he didn't mean it after he said it numerous times. Yep, now privatize parts of the department and that way you can hire more of your people without them taking a test.
But their in good shape if called into action.
How can any Commander accept "down cars" as a reality. I would be so embarrassed. It would appear to a reasonable person as a complete mismanagement of manpower.
Don't forget this is a double district 012/013. This district goes from Division St. on the North to Roosevelt on the South, Kedzie on the West to the river. Huge district, when we 013 was closed and we merged we had over 600 officers.
Even Walgreens is leaving certain areas
https://abc7chicago.com/post/chicago-community-leaders-speak-ahead-chatham-walgreens-pharmacy-store-closure-month/19034714/
It should be. A waste of manpower. How is one person going to protect a station that’s full of officers. Just a made up job to do a favor
People with kids and spouses work 12 hour shifts
Why doesn't FOP,PBPA hold a news conference. Notify every community organization. Remember 12 is really covering 2 districts now. No 13th district.
It's unsafe for the citizens of Chicago,visitors and Police Officers.
no worries Conehead has 100 + police officers, CAPS has a half dozen or more hiding, Commanders staff, review,footmen,tactical secretary. what a joke? . JB is that lake front and CTA still safe???
Fool!
You must be a house mouse.
12-hour days in Chicago is not the same as 12-hour days in Park Ridge or Wheaton.
We will lose more personnel to retirement and resignations.
Ok sure "lieutenant". Try again. How about you use spell- and grammar-check next time before you post your long-winded gibberish. What a horrible day to be on SCC while being able to read over a 4th Grade level. Wowie!
Only 2 people in the sdsc room come to 9 there are 3/4 in there at all times
Terrible!
The Communist's are winning. Ask any survivor's of WW Eleven (from Europe) and you will understand...
Yes.
You are correct in your advice. Don't be a hero. Save your family.
Part one arrests and ticket numbers are going to be a little low tonight boss...
Good tactic.
Worked with a sgt in 008 that did that!!!
The the 100th time, the city can rehire guys who left and want to come back. A month refresher and back on the street, but no, they want to be petty and make them reapply and do the academy like they never worked for the department.
Bitch and whine!. We, the 150 members of Coneheads protective group, are fully staffed getting fat pay and undeserved O/T. We keep our brilliant, beloved Mayor safe from all stress and danger. Aside from his occasional nervous breakdowns, it's pretty dull. Dull, like him.. Any new promotions lists out? We are on all of them....Suckers.
Tell it to their face loser
Quit letting people take time off due your jobs you get RDO'S
If anybody at HQ could do math, they would look at the 4 and 2 before doing anything with 12 hr shifts. Wasn't a fan of the 6 and 2, but when they went to 4 and 2 they immediately had fewer officers at work every day.
I agree.
Don’t think there will be to big of a crowd.Most likely students who get in free.
how do you think a commander became a commander? by complaining?
One job at a time. Handle jobs properly, take all the time you need, write paper if necessary then on to the next. Do nothing more and do nothing less. If there's a backlog, like there always is, oh well.
Quick Data Warehouse search shows Patrolman (9161) at about 7,980 and FTO (9164) at about 330.
How many of these 9161 are actually on beat cars?
5/04/2026 10:54:15 AM
^ This. I had the "pleasure" of working 12 hour days, the pitman schedule in the burbs. Court in between shifts. Mind you I have not had a single late arrest during my time on 12's. Can't imagine CPD working 12's where late domestics are twice a week and court on top of that at 1300... God help the midnight officers on 12's. Most will utilize the 3-6-5 and resign. It isn't possible here.
Honestly, your typical Commander doesn't give a flying F about the officers patrol. They just take care of their few who the DC tells them to take care of. Just look at how staffed the SDSC is yet only two 99 cars on late side. Tact and CAPS fully staffed. Desk staffed with young females. Learn to beat them at this game and start pushing back a little otherwise they'll ride you in!
Must be a merit Lt. cause you can’t write a correct English sentence. You must be. Grad from cps
Yes. If I could transfer to 22 I would go there but they still send u to the ghetto anyways
They only got a few pos there
Horrible grammar! That was a rough read.
As a PO who regretfully went to the suburbs, 12 hour days are ass. While I would rather do 12 in the city because let’s be real, it won’t be an actual 12 hour day, early ducks and no fucks given attitude, it would be easier than suburbs. Your whole day is shot with 12’s, unlike Cpd, you work 1st watch, you don’t start til 2200 and leave 0530, you have your whole day.
I made this post and I’m not a fool. I don’t want 12 hour shifts. Not here in Chicago. Every other weekend being a 3 day weekend sounds awesome but again not in Chicago. 12 hours shifts will only lead to more CR and medical
Fuck you, I can tell you have no life outside of this job. Take all the time off you can. Enjoy time with family and friends. This department and city doesn’t care about majority of us. Remember we are just a warm body.
LOL.
Hmm. Looks like me working 99 in 011 nights. 1 sgt. Whats wrong? Suck it up buttercup
How do you even read this sheet??? I swear, every district uses different spreadsheets for the schedule.
That's over 1500 lower than just 5 years ago.
Here’s the million dollar question… how many people did the Lt let take off?? Kentucky derby day I bet a lot took off. If so, that’s on the Lt for going over the 15 percent.
Look, point, laugh and walk away from this stooge.
001 has the worst Lts in the city. Morale cannnot get any lower here. The idiots on days have ruined the watch.
Caps in twenty five, the ticket girl, two sdsc and two radio room all with less than four years on
4-5 SGT in 025 afternoons, show up late all leave early. One is IAD plant
So much talk about 12hr days, why in gods name is CPD not looking at the LAPD schedule?? I was there a few months ago and did a ride along with them, they are doing 10 hour days and size of their department is equal to ours.
David Harris held that district together. Now it’s done. People will leave and they’ll have bids open for the rest of the year.
Zone 3 is a joke! The male dispatcher was kicked off zone 10, 3rd watch for sexually harrassing po's in 011. Got a 3 day suspension from the city. Where is the justice in that?!!? If officers dont kiss his ass and bring him lunch/coffee he sticks you with shitty jobs and late calls!
You forget to include the 001 Tact Lt. who was brought over from 018. The worst!
Dear new Loo' Tenant: We are all a little bit dumber after reading that gibberish.
Maybe those that dumped from academy will be reassigned to midnight basketball!!
That makes you a moron
Maybe the 12 district bike team should spends more time on those bikes patrolling than posting on social media about how much fun they are having enjoying the cuisine on Fulton market while my neighborhood is being terrorized with car break ins!!!
Disband the Car Caravan Unit. Has anyone actually seen any of those cars at a takeover, heard them on the radio, or seen them make an arrest. Their four hour tour ends well before the drag racers come out.
If CIRT has 200 officers assigned to it, why is it that everyone from around the city is sent to cover events they should be doing. Other than May Day and No Kings rallies, what else is there to justify that many officers. If you have hundreds of officers putting in to try to get to your unit, it should tell you it’s a cake spot. Nobody volunteers for nothing on this job if it’s hard work
012 caps people run businesses out of there. Need a travel agent? Check it out! Nothing is done about it!
Wintertime 12 Hour Shift very much different than Summertime 12 Hour Shift. This is obvious, but bears emphasizing.
Wait until summer when everyone’s down on these Stop Reports. The city is gonna burn…
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