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- Hey SCC,
111 days since part 2 of the Detective exam and still no scores.
Anyone have the scoop?
Obviously, they're "massaging" the numbers to get a desired outcome.
Labels: promotions
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
106 Comments:
Where the fuck is the FOP on this?
Personel transfer order just disappeared from amc after i saw some funny business. A lot of funny business for a consent decree.
David Bowie scored number 1
We need to up the numbers of the fedora wearing detectives who like wearing the finery of a detective.
Or…. The vendors is waiting for payment before releasing results.
111 Days? Pffffffff! Those are rookie numbers!
What's the clock at for those of us who worked VRI and were deemed to be owed money by the City? When will that ever materialize?
Bunch of 🤡🤡🤡
It’s just that the folks that took the test have never done real work on the street. Most hide in the station or ride their “paper” job as long as they can. Officers now are the bottom of the barrel. How do you make a list of the most “qualified” when none are really qualified. The new breed sucks!!
I remember when they wanted only your SS number written in ERASABLE PENCIL on your answer sheet. Of course you were never given back your answer sheet. Curious as to why they did that!!!!!!!!
DEI points have to be added, as if the clearance rate wasn't low enough.
The department plays games. When the department throws out the questions that move up their people to the top of the list. The results will be out.
Many will get "Standardized".
It's all so tiresome...
Rumor has it gang enforcement is coming back
There are so many poser detectives that are wearing shoulder holsters and fedoras. If you’re one of these douche bags please stop wearing this shit. You look really silly.
I heard another rumor that Unit 153 is making a comeback as well and Jerry Finnegan will be the commander.
The department testing process is a complete joke, manipulated and controlled by the trolls of DEI and the ward office.
You think the department hasn’t released results for 111 days because most officers hit a hole and ride out jobs? This logic is fascinating.
At the food truck.
One of the requirements of being a detective used to be that your pants did not match your sport coat.
Sherlock Holmes says; It was Mohammed, in the library with a sheep.
Stealing our money
Detective Exam Questionaire:
Sex: Non binary
Weight: Well nourished
Ethnicity: Person of Color
Likelihood of solving a crime: Dependent on mood and weather
Oh great..more people leaving the districts to be on a Unit that will only work a few hours???
They don’t have time for this bullshit. They’re too busy getting their stories straight for the impending federal indictments.
That is exactly how the city can have some control over who is being promoted.
Exactly, and what is the total amount owed to us? Nobody can give us a straight answer. It would be good to hear what the time frame of receiving our back pay is? Also heard that the money we receive won’t be taxed because it’s from a lawsuit. Is that even true? Nobody at FOP wants to answer any of these questions.
Another great question to ask is it true that when our contract expires in 2027 what is going to happen with our medical? Is it true that there will be no more medical for working until 55 years old? Are we really only getting medical after 29 years on no matter your age? Are we really going to have to give up 7 percent of our pension instead of the current 3.5 percent? Why is everything such a big secret?
There will be no answers until the time limit is up! Okay...how long is the time limit? There will be no answers until the time limit is up!
All these comments must be from new people. It definitely isn't right, but it's absolutely not uncommon based on my 25 years with the department. Get used to it.
I took the exam. I studied and thought I did pretty well. Now, I am afraid that I may make the first class of dicks. Once they figure out the DEI quota's, a new class will be announced. I just wonder how low the passing score will go. The new generation of entitlements dont even study to make it through an exam. They just fall back on their clout. I wonder if the answers were circulated among the elites on this one?
Rumor has it we’re going back to only three areas. 1st period 2027.
How can you become a detective when you’ve never done anything resembling real police work?
The real order used to be: you did the watch (1st or 3rd), then Tac for 3–5 years, then a unit (OCD), and eventually detective. There was actually a progression to it, you learned the job, gained experience, and earned your way into those positions. Now it seems like these kids want instant gratification. They want to skip all of that experience and jump right into specialized spots, even if it means making complete fools of themselves because they don’t actually know how to do the job.
When did this job become completely intolerable?
This city would be so lucky
I remember my first promotional test. It’s so adorable watching you kids convince yourself this job is legit
Citywide gang enforcement out of Homan was a great pace to work in the old days.
No more merit promotions for Officers scoring under 70% on any promotional exam. New Superintendent is reviewing Merit packages submitted under Snelling and want Merit processed opened up for new picks. For those that scored high will have to wait a couple months before the next promotions of Sergeants and Lieutenants. If you paid your clout for a merit and your score was under 70%,no refund or promotion for you.
Does anyone even think to ask the fop anymore? Have they become that useless and irrelevant?
Believe it or not kids, this job used to be incredibly fun
Keep paying those dues every check sucka
Remember how we all abided by the activity requirement to get VRI?
The jokes on us
Rookie numbers...the Chicago fire department took 4 years to grade a Lieutenants test.
Right when Rahm became mayor he put a hiring freeze on new recruits as well as promotions (probably a few “special” people still got promoted)
He was trying to lower the number of officers by attrition. I was on the D-list for just over 10yrs until getting made. The D-Unit was down to around 720 Dics.
The department has never recovered from all that knowledge lost which was never passed on due to retirements without replacements.
And so it goes…
back in the day you knew your score when you walked out the door. It was fair process, 10% merit were hard chargers with plenty of arrests, court time. Not some DEI pencil pusher in an office. Let's hope Waller changes this.
Always remember, numbers don't lie, people do.
some aldermen are still waiting for those certain checks to clear before they give their recommendations
Plain ole Enforcement is good enough
The consent decree is only for the working police. Do nothing proactive and advise warrant procedures.
They have to racial "norm" everything got to get the not qualified dei idiots in! Heck we live in a county so corrupt they cannot even get property tax bills out on time!
I don’t blame any officers for not doing according to you real work in today’s anti police environment. This job is no longer a career it’s a means to an end.
Good luck in this environment.
Agree. Does anyone still on the job remember when a detective actually wore a tie and jacket, some even wore finely made suits. Trust me, dude talks to guys in suits.
Someone should assign a detective to look into this.
Doesn't matter, as long as merit promotions exist, its all rigged.
It’s always been slow. Part two of the Lieutenants test back in 2015 took six months. Wait, that’s the test that had all the cheating.
Sorry!
This guy is actually retarded
We got our test score right after we handed in the answer sheet. Just saying...25 year retired dick. It's all legit......
Its called weighting test score.all the questions have a value. CITY says it wants half women or 10% Asian the company puts all scores in and use those pesky race and sex boxes you check. To all the Caucasians the new rules state you can check whatever box you like on race now. Even male female is open per city rules you took 2 hours testing for at station.Do What your ethics direct you to do for your family.
Its scored they paid for quick scoring. Look up iO Solutions calendar.
Omg no doubt it’s so annoying
ain’t gonna hate on fop with this, but they should be able to find shit out for us.
Appearance does matter. And yes. Shitheads notice.
Hahahahaha! #1 comment!!!
I took the Detective Test in the early to mid 70"s and the test was scored when you walked out the door. After finishing the test, you would walk over to one of several scoring stations and have the test scored right in front of you. Ther where three scorers. Two scored the test and the third checked for accuracy. The third scorer verified your score, wrote your score on a master ledger, and gave you a receipt with your score. Afterwards everyone was standing around discussing their scores. In a few days I guessed my position on the list by comparing tests results. The list came out several weeks later. I guessed that I would land in the top three hundred. I was 315 on the lists. The department made over 600 from the lifetime of the list. A group of Black Officers went to court and sued over the results of the test claiming the tests was racially discriminative against them. The department promoted the top 75 to 100 officers from that list before the federal court issued an injunction against promoting from that list. It was tied up in federal court for several years. The department by this time was so short of detectives the court promoted several hundred at a time. I was in the second class after the court lifted the injunction. That was the last time the department scored a test and gave you your score on the same day of the test. It was also the last time the department held an honest exam.
Sure, this case will never get solved.
08:42- I agree, that first 2 years the citywide teams were running was hard to beat.
Sad what they did with that unit towards the end, but it always happens once the numbers game becomes a priority.
-Former 67something
Have not heard such rumors myself, but none of the above would be surprising. Any chance the city gets to bend us over and bone us, they do.
Get rid of 30% merit!!
Yeah it’s wild how many younger kids I talk to on the job that feel the progression is now do your cycles, ride the watch cutting paper for 2-3 years, then go to Homan.
Majority of the kids going to units now have never typed a search warrant. Most new detectives on the floor have never typed a search warrant either.
I agree, the natural progression of a career is out the window these days. Tact used to be a AAA/feeder program for the units. Everyone wants to bypass gaining experience the hard way and just skip the line.
Everyone is pretending but to actually wear a fedora yeah your a complete d bag how embarrassing for that guy.
A5 is useless, from detectives to teams. Homicide support investigation team does nothing but stuff there faces at any of the restaurants in Elmwood Park or Blossom Cafe
Merit is now more legit than “score”.
Wham bam thank you mam now that’s the score
Yes! The country club will close(area5). Next will be area4.
How was it fun? Aimlessly passing out RD’s is fun? It’s just a job that pays the bills nothing to be proud of. Anyone can do it.
A5 can be absorbed with a3 easily. Teams there do nothing
Wanna even know something better? Look at the merit lts from the first class… all of them back in units. Can’t find time to study to pass the test but now running units.
John: find out
get rid of PRT
No, not true. But there will be 10 hour days for all detectives, but set day off groups by seniority.
No not 7 but 5 is strong possibility if JCat is at the helm for new hires.
It’s 20% for detective genius, therefore you failed the test because you do not know your contract and don’t attend union meetings.
Stfu and go get your bosses their numbers now.
You got it!
Watch. They will promote detectives and within 60 days they will call in a new sergeant’s class, thereby depleting the detective ranks again. Cost effective and another opportunity to make the chosen.
It was Mohammed in a car with a gun and an autistic kid
The cheating scandal and Eddie Johnson becoming Supe was the beginning of the end of CPD.
Transfer order comes out the Friday before the period change, which is today. You failed the exam.
Not as bad as the goofs wearing shorts, baseball hats on backwards.
He's not going to change anything. He is the Mayor's puppet.
The beginning of the end of CPD. I’m sure this has never been said before, several times even, in the history of CPD
Some of you are retards. Complaining about if someone wears a damn hat but praise someone who can’t match their own clothes and looks like a slob. Get a life
Here’s a good one: Long, long ago Chicagos major newspapers would publish the names of all newly promoted Chicago Police Officers. We have a scrapbook with mounds of yellowed clippings that we saved from the Tribune, Chicago American, and Chicago Daily News. Back then the names were published to honor and acknowledge the promotee unlike today where a policeman’s name is published to embarrass or humiliate.
After a three year stint on a PT Boat in the South Pacific my dad’s older brother came on the job in 1948 and worked in the old Sheffield Avenue Station as a PO. In the mid-1950’s he took his first sergeants test and landed 60 or 65 on the list that was subsequently published in the local newspapers. My uncle and a few buddies celebrate by going to Hayward WI for some musky and walleye. Somehow, and some way he and the others are located and contacted the Chit-Chat Resort near Hayward and told that the sergeants list had been taken down and re-posted and that several of those in the first 100 or so have been pushed further down the list. Some were now so far back they would not be promoted. They picked up their musky rods, packed their gear and shot back down to the City.
Once they confirmed all that was alleged actually did happen the dozens of policemen affected pooled their money and found a retired Cook Co. judge to represent them in challenging the City and Civil Service Commission. They won. The original list was restored and the uncle wound up in Maxwell St as a sergeant and retired from 001 as Lieutenant in the late 1970’s. The Ol’ Man came on after Korea and I followed 30 years later. And none of never, ever voted for Democrats in Chicago again.
They had to wait for Waller to come back and tell them who would be in the first 3 classes. Spoiler alert they’re all black
BACK IN MY DAY, we 19P every job and ate gyros telling back in my day stories! Old timers…go away.
No
This will end with new Superintendent, Merits will have to work one year on a watch in District Patrol before they can be assigned to a unit. Under 70% and no merit appointment.
If the Scores on Part 2 are “ Politically In- Correct”, simply add a Part 3, an additional Test. Either Average all Scores, or, let each Candidate use the Highest Score.
They are making sure the top scores look like a world cup crowd, plus factoring in the alphabet mafia.
Also the people who owned the gas station on 43 and cottage in the 60s n 70s could get things done with the a nice fat envolope.
Do you honestly think another test section will balance out scores? What should we test for? Layups? 3 pointers? 400 yard dash? Yes, then the “underrepresented group” might place well in the top 100…
FYI- Lieutenant class on September 14th and Sgt class on October 12th
Use only the multiple choice test. Everyone is given list of orders to study. If you score under 70% you’re unqualified to be promoted.
F.O.P Garbage Now...it's a Joke
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