Tuesday, April 24, 2018

FOP Wakes Up

This probably should have been done prior to yesterday (click for larger view):


This needs to be pushed - and pushed HARD. The Department has effectively hamstrung the rank-and-file with so much oversight, that a cop isn't allowed to make any decision without having it judged, reviewed, re-judged, reviewed again, sent to a committee that dissects every single second, judges yet again, then looks to suspend, fire or jail the officer(s) involved for each and every violation.

Time to play hardball FOP. Demand that the Department draw up some sort of "How To Police" guidebook that will ensure each and every action taken by officers is within legal guidelines, city ordinances, Department Directives and some sort of "community standards" whatever the fuck those may be - as far as we can tell, they depends upon the weather, temperature and day of the weekm biot to mention color of the officer and offender.

Absent these guidelines, the FOP should instruct everyone that no police action will be taken for any situations until such time as guidance is provided. Better re-tool the Academy in an effort to retrain the entire Department. Get it done.

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133 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahm..."He will bring them death, and they will love him for it.!"

4/24/2018 12:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok, I’m not the brightest nor sharpest, but where in our contract does it say we have to cooperate or even speak with COPA? It has IPRA plastered all over it...but not once does it say COPA. I will not speak with them.

4/24/2018 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My God, what a rudderless ship.

4/24/2018 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isn't this just swell! And Summer will be here soon! I hear goofs chasing cars for traffic and supervisors playing what's going on game to let the chase go a bit longer. More Officers will go to call back and more will be fired! A lot of people just don't get it.

4/24/2018 12:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some one from the FOP prolly had a chat with a juiced up goon from Rhams security detail--while delivering a Rhams lunch... and thought Be-Jesus!

4/24/2018 12:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Go back to sleep FOP--- you still got sleep in your eye/- wevall know they ain't gonna do shit

4/24/2018 12:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is Kidney Bean pie going to do?

4/24/2018 12:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That’s what I’ve been saying, if u go to a man with a bat or some dangerous object the city has told us that we can not shoot him, even if he comes at us. So what are we supposed to do? Do they want us to just drive away? We’ll do that if they want, gladly. Just let us know, b/c everything we’ve been taught doesn’t apply anymore. You’ll be fired for doing what you’ve been taught to do and what’s actually written on paper in our general orders as what we are allowed to do in those situations.

4/24/2018 12:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rham is calling the shots--- dumb ass FOP should have a meeting with the Peoples "Police Board" Commissariat instead of Special Ed 123

4/24/2018 12:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But the guys at force mitigation are still telling us that if a guy comes at you with a bat, you dam better believe you can still shoot him. So, that’s still our training, yet you’ll get fired for following your training. This job has become totally unwinable. Everybody is just looking to hide out and avoid everything they can to try to make it out in 20. Even the workers and sgts that used to work have given up. Almost everyone has finally seen the light. We are worthless to this city. They just keep shitting on us and I’ve, and most of my colleagues have dam well had enough.

4/24/2018 12:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

55 Million Tourist Guy says...

In the court of Public Opinion, everyone on the force is a pig.

But seriously though, Garry had his own theory on the whole Rialmo thing, and I think it just may be worth listening to. Rahm controls everyone, so no one is speaking on their own accord. Think about it.

http://wgnradio.com/2018/04/22/the-chicago-way-w-john-kass-04-22-18-garry-mccarthy-candidly-discusses-when-rahm-saw-the-laquan-mcdonald-video-kasso-reveres-the-power-of-goats-and-more/

4/24/2018 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It would be a great move if we had a boss with balls. He doesn’t stick up for us at all, why would you expect him to now? When is his tenure over? I’ll take anyone over him. Even GMac.

4/24/2018 12:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If we did a no confidence vote for Jody, why in the world haven’t we done it for Eddie? It’s f%cking time FOP!

4/24/2018 12:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

City has more rules than the NFL, which operates
as a non-profit and essentially gives it monopoly
status

4/24/2018 12:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This job is very difficult. Never easy but difficult on many levels now. The offenders are the victims. The police will always be the offenders from now on

4/24/2018 01:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If Legrier had a crow bar and was white, would it have been a good shoot? And what’s the City’s policy on through and thoughs?! Btw, I do feel terrible for that woman and her family. Legrier’s family can rot in political victimhood hell.

4/24/2018 01:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why isn’t the FOP suing COPA to get those third party reports made public?

4/24/2018 01:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

About time the FOP woke up and did something. What the hey are dues being paid for when they allow things to progress to where nobody who has a clue what to do is deciding what the police should do in life and death in an instant situations? FOP has been a FLOP.

4/24/2018 02:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just to reiterate only answer the radio, take the reports do nothing more do not engage or stop anyone until the CPD puts a policy in writing so you know where you stand on everything. Not everyone will take this advice so let them become the victim. While waiting for the decree from CPD, this would be a good time to organize picketing at the Hall, COPA, and at People's Gas to let Eva Dino Delgado know we won't forget this. FOP, unions are supposed to be organizers get going, you're asleep at the wheel.

4/24/2018 02:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

911 Disp: Yeah.

Caller: Hello? Hello? Is this the number I call?

911 Disp: Maybe.

Caller: Uhhhhhhh....... Huh?

911 Disp: Are you calling to report a murder?

Caller: Uhhhhh...... I donno.....

911 Disp: Are you calling to report an attempt to murder?

Caller: Uhhhhh..... Duhhhhhh...... Maaaay beee......

911 Disp: Are you being murdered as we speak?

Caller: Waaaaaat!!??!!?!?!

911 Disp: Well..... (terminate call) .... That's one more for the books....

911 Sup: At least ya didn't drag this one out.....

911 Disp: (shrug)......



The future.....is.... Today!!!!!

4/24/2018 03:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you really think it's the officer's who need "more" training. What about the sector of the public that, it appears, or they think, and the POS MSM backs, their every move as constitutional or justified! What about all the people who get shot, get killed, or otherwise victimized in the city each and every day. What about the loopholes in the law where the gangs use juveniles to do their dirty work and the criminal (un)justice system allows these asswipes to be caught and released and commit offenses over and over again. THIS IS NOT BALANCED AND RESTORATIVE JUSTICE.........IT IS PLAIN STUPIDITY AND INSANITY!
Even the animals in the zoo have a daily acceptable routine, for the purpose of keeping the staff and public safe. There are no such laws for the public, only the narrow path that the politicians and certain nonconforming portions of society push on the police in an effort to continue the ever expanding non-conformity and arrogance of this same group!

4/24/2018 05:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At least they did something but way to weak. Much stronger actions needed. Start with a no confidence vote on entire administrations. They
Pursue suggestions in SCC post about going fetal until you have in writing of acceptable actions.

4/24/2018 06:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


That is exactly what I’ve said hundreds of times to people. Let the Dept take the McDonald incident and demonstrate how they want us to handle it. The family was paid off quite a while ago and the officer is already charged so there’s no reason we cannot use this very incident itself. Don’t play around with other examples, use this exact case. Please, show us how it’s done.
I think it would be especially important for our gold stars to step up and explain and perhaps demonstrate how to properly handle a subject armed with a knife.
Thank you, I’ll wait for my answer.

4/24/2018 06:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guess they’ll gut the use of force model. Start issuing low penetration ammunition. Along with more training with verbal judo.

4/24/2018 06:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just call a White Shirt for onscene instruction for every call. That way a higher ranking White Shirt can't break it off in your A , because he would hurt his buddy.

Repeat after me:

"Can I get a supervisor over here?"

4/24/2018 06:13:00 AM  
Blogger SpankDaddy said...

Long overdue. Good luck.

4/24/2018 06:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unfortunately for Officer Rialmo, he was legally correct, but politically incorrect.

4/24/2018 06:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But, when’s the retro coming?

4/24/2018 06:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is it election time?

4/24/2018 06:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He does have a valid point. The use of force model is basically null and void since this decision.

4/24/2018 06:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anybody notice all of the shootings yesterday.

4/24/2018 06:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Democrats, especially Rahm, treat the CPD rank and file police officers as bones to be thrown to the “community”, so Rahm and his cronies can keep their jobs and continue plundering and pillaging. “Hey look over here, another bad copper”. All the while taking the focus off the fact that the democrats have run this city and state into the ground and the actual taxpayers are fleeing at record numbers. But continue appeasing the “community” because that’s who keeps those democrats in office.

4/24/2018 06:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shouldn’t just be FOP. Sergeants and Lieutenants Unions need to get on board also. United we stand!

4/24/2018 06:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dont retool the caademy. The kids are graduating extremely fetal. Some idiots in each class but most are great.

4/24/2018 06:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How do you tell the police to stop doing any police work without actually telling the police to stop doing any police work?

After all, you don't wanna be accused of initiating or promoting a work stoppage.

But the FOP needs to figure out the answer to this question and then we all need to follow through until all this "reform" starts working out in our favor.

4/24/2018 07:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Chalkie said...

Is this the lefts "end-game"?

https://thesaltysarge.com/cops-no-longer-to-enforce-laws/

4/24/2018 07:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The officer's attorney should sue and subpoena COPA's 'experts' reports. With three reports, it's almost like they were shopping for one that agreed with their pre-determined judgment. And now hiding them. Go figure. The officer will win a big defamation suit.

4/24/2018 07:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Its simple, its been over, but now its really over. I'm telling my relatives and friends that still reside in this shit hole, to arm themselves if they are going to stay and encourage them to move. This city is not safe anymore. The police can not do their job, it's going to get worse. Abandon ship, is now the cry of the ones who see the writing on the wall. It's now plain as day.............

4/24/2018 07:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The FOP should file a FOIA request for those 3rd party investigative reports. If the City fails to produce them, fuck them. File a lawsuit to compel them to do so.

As to what to do when you arrive and the offender is on the scene, do nothing and call for a supervisor and put his or her ass on the line. If everyone did this, it should grind the Dept to a halt pretty quickly. No blue flu is needed. RAP's will grow like mushrooms. Let them.

Why take any chances yourself? For a Mayor, CPD command staff, and "community" that doesn't give a shit about you? No thank you.

Until the political winds change in this town, I say let it burn.

Call the next case. Not a cop.

4/24/2018 07:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TIPPING POINT

4/24/2018 07:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Ben E. Keen said...

Too little - too late.

Dispand FOP - vote Teamsters in.

Much better results, of course, anything is better than what the FOP has done....so it is not a high bar to pass.

4/24/2018 07:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looks like the fraternal order of police is finally taking in action the blog has been covering this for a long time we also know that FOP has people assigned to read the blog another great results due to the spirits of the air second city cop. Finally The union has been woken up!

The hard-working Chicago police officers have all the power the politicians the file reference the dishonest media have no power if we stick together we can do whatever takes to get the results that are necessary to restore law and order and to restore the rule of law. Doing this would help the law-abiding Innocent tax paying people who every day go to work and do the job as the elected officials pander to the criminal element and the illegal invaders we need to get the support of the people that respect us that we respect remember to always support the police without the police nothing else matters!

4/24/2018 07:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I suppose the Chicago police board should teach at the police academy since they have the final say on use of force.

4/24/2018 08:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No offense intended, and certainly no disrespect meant, but this is ho we innocent people have felt about how police treat US when we are pulled over for some flickering light premise and pulled out of our cars, searched, maligned, distrusted and ticketed for hundreds of dollars over the most mundane things.

On that level, how does it feel to have folks you dont even know having so much power and control over your lives...who can arbitrarily literally destroy you with their accusations?

Sucks, huh? Of course it does. Its wrong, huh? Of course it is!

Its pretty damn bogus when you are expected to adhere to rules you cant even really know, much less understand, huh?

I stand with everything SCC,wrote here, and ask that each police officer under such duress being confronted with this stupidity have the moment of insight where the light bulb finally goes on.

We are in the same boat now, cops now being treated by politicians as we the people have been treated by what used to be the "only ones".

Bitter irony it may be, but if it finally ends the nasty nonsense, so be it. Police please listen. We know you deal with the dregs of humanity and it burns your candle at both ends, BUT, we are not ALL dregs, so dont treat us all as if we are.

Because the complaint lodged here in this article is EXACTLY the same feeling we have towards LEO when you do treat us all like less than humam beings with rights.

Most cops are good and decent people, and we innocent people know it is your bosses responsible for the worst of all this, but you 2 year tac team wonders better recognize this much...when you ACT like these ahh review boards cough cough, we will feel the same about you and your profession in its entirety as yall feel about their stupid, unreasonable and foolish judgmental holier than thou attitudes.

The answer is for us to stand TOGETHER, no longer allowing politicians the power to pit us against each other. The answer is we stand side by side as peers, all held to account for living by tge SAME RULES, and simple rules we all can know and understand!

4/24/2018 08:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Standard communist (socialist) tactic to divide and conquer. Everything. Keep a list of ass holes for when the demorats overreach and force a damn civil war.

4/24/2018 08:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Finally they wake up! Bet they are tired of reading all the comments on the #1 blog SCC! Would also bet all the related phone calls to their offices regarding this is making them do this! But it is great news regardless!

Then over here:
Emanuel cautions fellow Democrats to drop impeachment talk
https://chicago.suntimes.com/chicago-politics/emanuel-cautions-fellow-democrats-to-drop-impeachment-talk/

Excerpt:Emanuel was a brash young staffer working under former President Bill Clinton when Clinton was impeached by the U.S. House of Representatives after the Monica Lewinsky scandal, but not convicted by the U.S. Senate.

The mayor never mentioned that in his recitation of impeachment history that included former President Andrew Johnson, whom Emanuel initially identified as James Buchanan before correcting himself. (rahm obviously is not a historian just takes guesses?)
*Brash young staffer
brash1
braSH/
adjective:self-assertive in a rude, noisy, or overbearing way.
"he could be brash, cocky, and arrogant"

That fits him, just a rich cocky suburban bully err bully jump in the car lets cruise and see;
Rahm once sent a man a dead fish. The dish is returned, served cold.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/kass/ct-met-rahm-emanuel-dead-fish-0125-story.html

Excerpt: So just like a mafia boss from “The Godfather,” Rahm sent his enemy a dead fish, with a card that said, “It’s been awful working with you.”

Massa Details Naked Shower Fight With 'Son of the Devil's Spawn'
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/03/08/massa-accuses-democrats-pushing-pass-health-care.html

Excerpt:"I'm sitting there showering, naked as a jaybird, and here comes Rahm Emanuel, not even with a towel wrapped around his tush, poking his finger in my chest, yelling at me because I wasn't gonna vote for the president's budget," Massa said. "Do you know how awkward it is to have a political argument with a naked man? ... It's ridiculous."

He continued, "By the way, what the heck is he doing in the congressional gym? He goes there to intimidate members of Congress."

Massa, 50, announced last Wednesday that a recurrence of cancer made him decide not to seek re-election in the fall. But two days later, following persistent reports about an Ethics Committee inquiry into inappropriate remarks made to a male staffer, he announced he would resign.
*A man with cancer gets bullied by rahm!

reenactment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOi9uR89x8w


So our mayor rahm who appointed that girl to destroy officer Rialmo, no wonder why rahm has instructed people like this he had his basic training with this criminal enterprise,then went on to barry and his people! Is he instructing the democrats to drop impeachment talks due to the fact finally the DOJ and FBI are acting on rahms criminal enterprises? Hiding money in tifs? Giving away taxpayers money in violation of federal laws to illegal criminals and giving them an illegal ID card to vote? Could God be working and help build the case against the pandering officials who sit in places of power?

May God bless the police and also the innocent people that believe in the rule of law and support the police!

4/24/2018 08:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Meh-- FOP is just shuffling papers... I don't expect anything from them-- I mean hey, are gonna save Ralmo's job at the end the day-- I think not. They will take out dues up until his last pay check🤔

4/24/2018 08:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like a "blue flu" could be in the works!

Just saying!

Besides, police work is dead when Politicians protect criminals over law abiding citizens and their police force, sworn to protect the public from criminals!

I tell everyone who listens to get your CCL and a nice weapon for self protection!

From: Beat cop for life, KMA!

4/24/2018 08:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"requested" a meeting?
How forceful
Better to have sent the letter to Rahm asking if special ed might be inclined to meet

4/24/2018 08:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ive been the police for 28 years and the FOP was useless during that time and still is. All it is some beer and pizza meeting every year and they NEVER stand by coppers when they find themselves knee deep in shit. Fucking useless F [L] O P.

Have an outside entity represent us, guys who will step up and not worry about causing problems and not getting a promotion or unit.

4/24/2018 08:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That California theory of Reasonable Use of Force Vs. Necessary Use of Force we have been hearing so much about lately is already in effect here. Judgements made from 20 20 hindsight are the rule. Happy to be retired. That pendulum seems to be coming back very very slowly.

4/24/2018 09:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is the proper action to stop a van driven on a sidewalk running people down. Don't shoot into vehicles, do not chase, stay out of the way. What if they get out with a base ball bat? Wait for direction from a Lietenant?
God help you all.

4/24/2018 09:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Question I thought the Superintendent had the final decision and could over rule OPS/IPRA/COPA and the police board decisions. Did this change (apparently it did)

4/24/2018 09:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

About 25 years the FOP rallied and marched when Lech Walesa came to town. I think there were at least a thousand officers picketing across the street from the union leaders hotel. Very appropriate that someone who stood up to a tyrant was a focus of the protest against our own dictator. We need to march again. Maybe at the location of the new police academy. Maybe at one of Rahm's special events. Or the Obama library. We have a bigger voice than you know.

4/24/2018 09:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
But, when’s the retro coming?

4/24/2018 06:31:00 AM

Check your direct deposit May 1. Just talked to a guy at headquarters who’s in the know and he says you can take this to the bank. No pun intended

4/24/2018 09:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

****** Hear Ye Hear Ye*********
** Graham is through**

We Want A Hell Cat

025 3rd Watch Has The Guy
🔫


4/24/2018 09:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Just call a White Shirt for onscene instruction for every call. That way a higher ranking White Shirt can't break it off in your A , because he would hurt his buddy.

Repeat after me:

"Can I get a supervisor over here?"
4/24/2018 06:13:00 AM

I have said it before I will say it again; "Request Denied! Officer handle the assignment."

4/24/2018 10:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well it’s definatley going to be a real deadly summer. All you government tit sucking vultures with your bi polar bullshit so you can get a check. Handle it yourselves! Don’t call the police.

4/24/2018 10:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Pay the Jones family, its a horrible tradgedy, but pay the family and get that out of the way! Stop letting Legriers family tie the two together! He had a bat, he wouldn't drop it for 2 uniformed officers, I'm not taking 1 to the head 1st, or trying to grab it out of his hands and I can't shoot it out of his hands! He had to shoot him! A bat is a dangerous weapon!

4/24/2018 10:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Gigi said...

Ya know, I am NOT a police officer but even I know that the ONLY people who should ever be judging, monitoring, critiquing, convicting or even COMMENTING on another police officers actions are POLICE OFFICERS. Not dentists, lawyers, retired judges, CEO's of companies, street sweepers, ex-jailbirds, factory workers, dog-catchers or airline pilots. The fact that this board even exists is evidence that Chicago needs to be just handed over to the liberals once and for all and be done with it. Let all the police officers retire and leave and just let the asshole criminals run around with knives, guns and baseball bats and do what they want. ANYONE who judges a police officer without a) walking in their shoes dealing with these cave dwellers day after day, year after year; b) spending one day on the job (not one of these copa morons would survive one day of training) and c) being faced with a life or death situation is a hypocritical, judgmental, uninformed hack that sold their soul to the devil. This makes me sick to my stomach. God bless ALL LE and God curse ANYONE who judges them!

4/24/2018 10:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

F that tutuballerina , one person hand picked , when did this Bull Sh. Start . Kangaroo court
Where’s ACLU to protect a police officers rights
Grow some balls Officers , start writing every politicians private,city car parked illegal anywhere ind the city

4/24/2018 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just call a White Shirt for onscene instruction for every call. That way a higher ranking White Shirt can't break it off in your A , because he would hurt his buddy.

Repeat after me:

"Can I get a supervisor over here?"

4/24/2018 06:13:00 AM

If you call for a supervisor on every single job, you're just documenting that you have no idea what you're doing and can't make a decision. And you won't have time to wait for one during an attack or an in-progress job.

4/24/2018 11:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Time for lawsuits!!!! Thousand and thousand of lawsuits!!!
There are numerous lawyers out there to who are well schooled in federal law.
In the meantime---DO NOTHING!!!

4/24/2018 11:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is all the FOP is going to do. As I previously posted there is some major infighting going on in the FOP. Kevin and the Deano leftovers against Murray and Preib. Kevin is soo worried over he contract he is afraid to do anything that he thinks will get tiny dancer upset. Murray and Preib want to get very aggressive but are being overruled by Kevin. Kevin is afraid of his shadow, Murray and Preib want a all out war. There have been major arguments between the parties. What sad is that the Deano left overs have Kevin's ear and is giving him very bad advise. Example: don't rock the boat in dealing with the mayor. One only has to go back to Deano passive actions against the mayor. The same people in leadership (oxymoron) today are the same people who were in leadership when Deano was president. They want nothing more than to see Kevin fail. There is a problem with how attorneys are assigned to cases. Questions are being asked on how certain attorneys are being assigned to cases. There also is a growing problem with some of the attorneys fee's being submitted to the FOP. There can be a major scandal if this comes out ESPECALLY NOW.

4/24/2018 11:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well ladies and gents

I personally, ain't doing a motherfucken thing till this gets resolved. That being said any of you goofs especially the young hair-gel fucks better wake up and smell the coffee and start paying attention to either the blog or the headlines because don't be crying later when they come for you on a witch hunt and don't be looking for no fundraiser either because of you're own doing. That letter sent to the stuperintendent /mayor's puppet is and was about time that this fat ass FOP president did. The medical roll and IOD sure sound about perfect for now. And on a small note fuck these motherfucken bosses that were never the police in the first place with there arrest and number ratios, just answer your calls, drop paper, go to lunch, drop a little more paper and go home. If the city just wants me to drive around and look pretty and pay me for just about doing nothing, fine by me. Stop being scared of certain bosses, especially when they threaten you about activity. What ever they threaten you with you're still going to get a paycheck at the end. Learn to make this job work for you and not the other way around because it's going to be a long career. I gots 3 more years suckas making that 30 yrs. My dumb ass never thought about were this job was headed, so take heed young-ens and start looking for a lateral move to another department and out of state preferably or take advantage of the school offered by the department, do you're 20 yrs. and get another line of work. But get the fuck out of this circus before you're dragged in as a clown for Rahm's constituents.

Fuck Rahm and his city, God Bless you all in blue and some white shirts

4/24/2018 11:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Try asking the force mitigation "instructors" about the proper use of force in the LeGrier incident. They absolutely refuse to discuss it and claim that ongoing litigation prevents them from commenting.

4/24/2018 11:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


"But the guys at force mitigation are still telling us that if a guy comes at you with a bat, you dam better believe you can still shoot him. So, that’s still our training, "

I'm retired. (And loving it).
Is this true?
Are they still teaching baseball bats are weapons?


4/24/2018 11:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Just call a White Shirt for onscene instruction for every call. That way a higher ranking White Shirt can't break it off in your A , because he would hurt his buddy.

Repeat after me:

"Can I get a supervisor over here?"

The only white shirts that are protected are the heavily clouted meritorious kind. And they don’t usually work the street.

4/24/2018 12:17:00 PM  
Blogger Ragman said...

Let me get this straight in my mind. You are trained to meet force with force to gain control of the situation. You are taught UOF guidelines in the academy. Then a gen order comes out that overrides your training. Now you are to disregard your academy training (and what you have been doing for years) and do what the gen order says. Then when you get into a split second ordeal you're supposed to forget academy training and revert to a hap hazardly worded gen order, all during a time when the situation can go sideways in literally the blink of an eye. Then you are "investigated" by persons that have no practical experience OTJ and better yet, have no knowledge how to conduct a proper investigation. Do I have this correct? If so, then I'm thinking CCW holders have more rights than POs. If anyone comes at me with a bat, I'll do my best to stop the threat with force. As far as I know the law says I'm entitled to protect myself and loved ones. Someone explain this to me. If this is correct, then I'm glad I never responded to the acceptance letter i got back in the seventies. One other thing. Sounds like POs need a "real" union. We in the building trades called unions like yours "company unions". They almost always sided with the company. Glad we had real unions that didn't back down. Stay safe, go home after your tour and please don't be offended by my comments. I mean no disrespect to your profession, however I have total disrespect for the corrupt system you must work under.

4/24/2018 01:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The police is not a "feel goo" service industry it is there to uphold law and order.

Hope this letter is made public. Although, honestly I don't know how much the sheeple understand or care.

Thank you for your service and stay safe!

4/24/2018 01:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do absolutely nothing!? Damn if I had known I wouldn’t have retired!!! Damn you sawed off weasel rahm...

4/24/2018 01:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...


That is exactly what I’ve said hundreds of times to people. Let the Dept take the McDonald incident and demonstrate how they want us to handle it. The family was paid off quite a while ago and the officer is already charged so there’s no reason we cannot use this very incident itself. Don’t play around with other examples, use this exact case. Please, show us how it’s done.
I think it would be especially important for our gold stars to step up and explain and perhaps demonstrate how to properly handle a subject armed with a knife.
Thank you, I’ll wait for my answer.

4/24/2018 06:07:00 AM
The family got paid-off from rahm using taxpayers money over 5 million dollars for the families when this fine officer,great USMC Marine who felt he was not going home if the savage crazed on drugs would of pounded his skull in! Let's talk about Rialmo, thought his life was in danger being a Marine what does that say about the incident? It says that this man who has so much experience with scum in his career and he felt like this, how would anyone else weather it be a snowflake liberal, or a snowflake copper? Hey ABC could do the "what would you do segment" and go live give the person walking up a gun,and then surprise a crazy high on drugs pos jumps out and tries to smash in their skull, would they just watch their skull pieces displayed all the ground,blood gushing before they blacked out? we all know they would of did the same if they have the right mindset!

Then of course the school shooter was a good kid, lets play the dishonest fake news game "bash the police"
Broward sheriff's deputies cowered behind cars, tree with Parkland shooter believed in school, report says

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/04/24/broward-sheriffs-deputies-cowered-behind-cars-tree-with-parkland-shooter-believed-in-school-report-says.html

Would not the better question be how were officers trained? Are they trained like some were on CPD to secure the scene and call the SWAT "specialists?" We need a Manuel spelled out for the bat incident,the McDonald incident exactly what we are to do, spell it out over bloated exempts! The elected bully rahm come on man as barry would say spell it out!

Callout the ballerina, the wedding dress hider, now how about the police board members who are your pets rahm are all required monthy to go out in a beat car late for say a 6 hour tour 2200-0400 and let them ruide with us on calls, and they enter first so we can see and observe their vast skillsets! They are qualified to make decisions on police officers correct? You mean to tell us that a girl that works at peoples gas Eva delgado is qualified? She must have experience correct? She voted against the police 100% of time or is just a police hater,with a liberal agenda? Maybe her family is criminals who have been arrested? follow her background bet it is very dirty and sinister!

4/24/2018 01:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NYPD got it right,turn your backs on rahm he gives no fucks about you!

4/24/2018 01:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

An old friend once offered me a spot working inside at HQ and I took it as an insult. "Who the hell does he think he is? I'm the real police!" Also I have family on the job and I felt embarrassed to have to tell them I had an inside hiding spot. Now, looking back that's probably the biggest regret of my career. This job has become absolutely terrible and ANY position (unit, tac, or patrol) that forces you to interact with the public is at risk of losing your job. Every dispatched call, ISR or traffic stop could be your last. And I'm no even talking about the possibility of being hurt or killed; that has always existed. Now we don't even know the rules to the game. What we think is justified according to established law and UOF guidelines may in fact be overturned by a select group of citizens.

Inside spots have no stress, limited responsibility, and they're paid exactly the same. They're becoming the most coveted of all positions. And personally, I think my family would be even happier lol



4/24/2018 01:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just smile and wave.

4/24/2018 01:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i retired early from this circus!BEST MOVE I EVER MADE!

4/24/2018 03:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FLOP is still asleep. Have the retirees wake them up when the pension fund runs out.

4/24/2018 03:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just call a White Shirt for onscene instruction for every call. That way a higher ranking White Shirt can't break it off in your A , because he would hurt his buddy.

Unfortunately this doesn’t work. Maybe for a domestic report you’re trying to blow off but not for something that happens in an instant and puts you in a life or death moment. You should still be prepared to protect your partner and self before asking for a white shirt to tell you what to do. Having this mentality will not only get yourself hurt but other officers as well.

4/24/2018 03:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous Anonymous said...
But, when’s the retro coming?

4/24/2018 06:31:00 AM

That’s not the way asshole Rahm negotiates.
Instead of retro Rahm says we owe him.

4/24/2018 03:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Ok, I’m not the brightest nor sharpest, but where in our contract does it say we have to cooperate or even speak with COPA? It has IPRA plastered all over it...but not once does it say COPA. I will not speak with them.

4/24/2018 12:16:00 AM

Because the city ordinance that authorized COPA, past on all of IPRA's responsibilities and rights to them; we must cooperate.

4/24/2018 04:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ok, I’m not the brightest nor sharpest, but where in our contract does it say we have to cooperate or even speak with COPA? It has IPRA plastered all over it...but not once does it say COPA. I will not speak with them.

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
To Answer part of your Question: NO... You Do Not Have to Speak to COPA if their was a Shooting that you are involved in... This according to a Sgt from Homan Square that responds to ANY Police shooting... There known as the "shooting team" The sgt came to roll call just this morning

4/24/2018 04:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FOP should survey each district and watch to see how confident coppers feel that the department will support them if they follow all the rules and do everything right, but end up in a politically inputting incident. Submit findings to police board.

4/24/2018 04:59:00 PM  
Blogger psyopguru said...

FOP ha ha ha

4/24/2018 05:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is the date of the March from City Hall to all of rahms appointments?

4/24/2018 05:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"So our mayor rahm who appointed that girl to destroy officer Rialmo, no wonder why rahm has instructed people like this he had his basic training with this criminal enterprise,then went on to barry and his people! Is he instructing the democrats to drop impeachment talks due to the fact finally the DOJ and FBI are acting on rahms criminal enterprises? Hiding money in tifs? Giving away taxpayers money in violation of federal laws to illegal criminals and giving them an illegal ID card to vote? Could God be working and help build the case against the pandering officials who sit in places of power?"

You are foolish to think that they are coming here to take the Mayor out. Much as we'd all like to see, it isn't happening.

4/24/2018 05:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rialmo is set to win big in court. Hope he sticks it in tiny dancers ass and requests direct deposit for the payout.

4/24/2018 05:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone attacking me with a baseball bat is going to see their maker in short order. I give a fuck about the Police Board or anyone else. My safety is key, not some bullshit political assholes. Don't let this lib's bullshit you, the officer is going to sue, and hopefully wins the ghetto lottery.

4/24/2018 05:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The post at 1:06 P.M. is spot on. Unfortunately the firing fits the Lefts Anti-Police Agenda championed by Barack Hussein Obama.

4/24/2018 05:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

No Police for a Day or Weekend sounds like a winner.
The HQ HouseMouse contingent should be worried.

4/24/2018 06:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There’s the law and Department policy but it seems that the only thing that matters is “the community”’s perception. Right Rahm??

4/24/2018 06:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How to police? From the seat of your squad car.
Remember to follow the traffic laws for everything other than a coworker needing help.

Write paper when necessary, say yes sir, no sir, call an ET, give VIN.
Repeat as needed.

4/24/2018 06:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
This is all the FOP is going to do. As I previously posted there is some major infighting going on in the FOP. Kevin and the Deano leftovers against Murray and Preib. Kevin is soo worried over he contract he is afraid to do anything that he thinks will get tiny dancer upset. Murray and Preib want to get very aggressive but are being overruled by Kevin. Kevin is afraid of his shadow, Murray and Preib want a all out war. There have been major arguments between the parties. What sad is that the Deano left overs have Kevin's ear and is giving him very bad advise. Example: don't rock the boat in dealing with the mayor. One only has to go back to Deano passive actions against the mayor. The same people in leadership (oxymoron) today are the same people who were in leadership when Deano was president. They want nothing more than to see Kevin fail. There is a problem with how attorneys are assigned to cases. Questions are being asked on how certain attorneys are being assigned to cases. There also is a growing problem with some of the attorneys fee's being submitted to the FOP. There can be a major scandal if this comes out ESPECALLY NOW.

4/24/2018 11:25:00 AM

Murray and Prieb are morons, plain and simple. Deano was a goof and the leftovers too. Murray has to retire soon because he's going to be 63 so of course he wants to rock the boat. The one constant at the FOP now is that no one was ever the Police and it's funny they talk the game like they were. We are fucked, no matter what happens. We can wave the flag all we want but no one likes the Police these days and that's the reality of this life chapter. Good luck out there and retire ASAP.

4/24/2018 06:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In a community with no standards, that wants no standards of any kind, any agency with standards and high moral values must be criminalized.
When democrats support the destruction of American values they prove their worthlessness.

J.J.

4/24/2018 07:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
An old friend once offered me a spot working inside at HQ and I took it as an insult. "Who the hell does he think he is? I'm the real police!" Also I have family on the job and I felt embarrassed to have to tell them I had an inside hiding spot. Now, looking back that's probably the biggest regret of my career. This job has become absolutely terrible and ANY position (unit, tac, or patrol) that forces you to interact with the public is at risk of losing your job. Every dispatched call, ISR or traffic stop could be your last. And I'm no even talking about the possibility of being hurt or killed; that has always existed. Now we don't even know the rules to the game. What we think is justified according to established law and UOF guidelines may in fact be overturned by a select group of citizens.

Inside spots have no stress, limited responsibility, and they're paid exactly the same. They're becoming the most coveted of all positions. And personally, I think my family would be even happier lol

And many times if you are the bosses secretary, you get to run the show, good hours, plenty of OT and a private parking spot.

4/24/2018 07:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT:

Jay'Mal Green was just interviewed on Chicago Tonight. For no obvious or known good reason, he showed himself to be a pompous, arrogant braggart. BTW. he said pigs are killing black people. He does not let facts get in his way or sway his beliefs.

Hey Jay'Mal, you are an asshole of epic proportions.

And, BTW, how are things with your youth center at 79th & Ashland?

When I drive past it, I see no progress at all. Where's the money, Jay'Mal?

4/24/2018 07:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Would not the better question be how were officers trained? Are they trained like some were on CPD to secure the scene and call the SWAT "specialists?" We need a Manuel spelled out for the bat incident,the McDonald incident exactly what we are to do, spell it out over bloated exempts! The elected bully rahm come on man as barry would say spell it out!

We don’t need a Manuel or a manual and there will never be a manual. Each situation is unique and with different circumstances. No two incidents are the same or ever will be. It’s up to you to decide what to do or not to do and be able to live with your decision

4/24/2018 07:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:41PM......

I was blessed to have been given that same offer of a spot inside when I had 10 years on the job. I took it and never looked back. Family on the job was happy for me, as was my immediate family. I parlayed that initial spot into two more and spent a total of 18 years off of the street with weekends off. I’ve been back in patrol, on the street, for the last 4 years. Turning 55 soon and bye-bye.

Never turn down a spot that involves zero contact with the public.

You’re here to benefit yourself and your family.

4/24/2018 07:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Question I thought the Superintendent had the final decision and could over rule OPS/IPRA/COPA and the police board decisions. Did this change (apparently it did)

You thought wrong. Think of it this way and you will have your answer. Who fires you, the superintendent or the police board. He only gives them his recommendation and they decide. Been that way for a long long time but guys keep talking crap about something they no nothing about
Bottom line, if you are really interested, these things are spelled out and if you research it, the answer is available

4/24/2018 07:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Try asking the force mitigation "instructors" about the proper use of force in the LeGrier incident. They absolutely refuse to discuss it and claim that ongoing litigation prevents them from commenting.

They're right about that. They are not lawyers. Even if they were they wouldn't be able to comment. Any comments they make might get into the wrong ears and hurt the City's or the officer's legal position.

Lots of legal issues on that one.

4/24/2018 08:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this is correct, then I'm glad I never responded to the acceptance letter i got back in the seventies.

4/24/2018 01:06:00 PM

You would have worked hard in some dangerous situations on rotating shifts with only two of every six weekends off, but OTOH, you missed out on thirty years of vaudeville and a pension. Plus, you would have been near retirement or already retired before suffering anywhere near as much as the current members of the department are unjustly suffering. It is now a shit job, but it was a lot less sucky back when you would have been working. And, it was an education not available anywhere else.

4/24/2018 08:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is FOP so content with having a
30+ year record of fighting back against
City Hall & local media sources nonsense
with one hand behind their backs?

City Hall and local media fight against
Chicago Policemen with both barrels
blazing and FOP abides by a horribly
lopsided "gentlemen's agreement."

This shit ain't Marquise of Queensbury
Rules.

This is brutal, all out, no mercy, gutter fighting...

The kind of "dirty and unfair" fighting that native-born
Chicago Policemen have excelled at for more than 100 years.

The kind of fighting that has everybody in opposition to
Chicago Policemen, crying and desperately trying to
sue for peace.

"You blue-collar Chicago Cops are too rough, too ready,
too big, too strong, too mean, too nasty and too wild."

Funny... That's EXACTLY the kind of Policing needed
to drive Bad Genie back into his bottle and pull the cork
in behind him.

But this is where we are right now.

This city is beset with problems and The Police
are the political whipping boys because of a
bogus narrative.

FOP needs to step up harder and with more aggressiveness.

Fuck that nonsense about not pushing back too hard.
We're already at the point where we have to reach up
to touch the bottom of the hole we've been thrown into.

4/24/2018 08:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Headline in the Sun TImes "West Side residents plead for stronger anti-gang loitering ordinance". Ummm...See the ACLU about that.

4/24/2018 08:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Jamal is just a loudmouthed scammer that the South Side & West Side always thrive upon delusional racial grievances..If Jamal has received any money or funding from these soft-headed White Liberals,the money went straight into Jamal's pocket.

4/24/2018 09:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In a community with no standards, that wants no standards of any kind, any agency with standards and high moral values must be criminalized.

When democrats support the destruction of American values they prove their worthlessness.

J.J.

4/24/2018 07:21:00 PM

Excellent comment and very true!

4/24/2018 09:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Short guidebook: fetal. The most vocal citizens demand it.

4/24/2018 09:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only thing these corrupt politicians understand is money. We need a few thousand cops telling tourists and Michigan ave shoppers to go elsewhere , its too dangerous in chgo. Michigan ave is on its way to becoming the shitshow of the enclosed state st. mall under jane byrne from decades past.

4/24/2018 09:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You cannot expect legitimacy from an illegitimate leadership.

4/24/2018 10:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anyone attacking me with a baseball bat is going to see their maker in short order. I give a fuck about the Police Board or anyone else. My safety is key, not some bullshit political assholes. Don't let this lib's bullshit you, the officer is going to sue, and hopefully wins the ghetto lottery.

4/24/2018 05:55:00 PM

My feelings exactly, after I kill some asshole trying to bust my head opened, I too don't give a fuck. Going hone in one piece is all I care about. P.S., fuck you ting dancer.

4/24/2018 10:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Before you handle a nut , call CFD. human Services

4/24/2018 11:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe social services ,CPD should respond to all disturbances with mental . It’s not a Police matter until a crime is committed . When mental takes off the head of a social worker , then poleece can respond .

4/25/2018 12:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The reasonableness of a particular use of force must be judged from the perspective of a reasonable officer on the scene, rather than with the 20/20 vision of hindsight. The calculus of reasonableness must embody allowance for the fact that police officers are often forced to make split-second judgments—in circumstances that are tense, uncertain and rapidly evolving—about the amount of force that is necessary in a particular situation. The test of reasonableness is not capable of precise definition or mechanical application."

Our society would benefit from listening to Rehnquist's opinion rather than listening to community activists, protesters, or ill-informed politicians who see issues in black and white instead of seeing the issues from the standpoint of objective reasonableness.

4/25/2018 01:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anyone attacking me with a baseball bat is going to see their maker in short order. I give a fuck about the Police Board or anyone else. My safety is key, not some bullshit political assholes. Don't let this lib's bullshit you, the officer is going to sue, and hopefully wins the ghetto lottery.

4/24/2018 05:55:00 PM

Can't argue with that

4/25/2018 04:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My concern is summer is coming, so I'm happily waiting for the order to wear shorts.

4/25/2018 04:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
OT:

Jay'Mal Green was just interviewed on Chicago Tonight. For no obvious or known good reason, he showed himself to be a pompous, arrogant braggart. BTW. he said pigs are killing black people. He does not let facts get in his way or sway his beliefs.

Hey Jay'Mal, you are an asshole of epic proportions.

And, BTW, how are things with your youth center at 79th & Ashland?

When I drive past it, I see no progress at all. Where's the money, Jay'Mal?
4/24/2018 07:46:00 PM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Funny you mention the Youth Center or as he calls it Majostee Allstairs.
The GoFundMe page has approx. $64k
That amount varies, if you check on it occasionally it will be around $66k then down about 2k, then up again.
I figure he's skimming to maintain his lifestyle.

https://www.gofundme.com/MajosteeAllstars

4/25/2018 06:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We don't need a Manuel or a manual and there will never be a manual. Each situation is unique and with different circumstances. No two incidents are the same or ever will be. It's up to you to decide what to do or not to do and be able to live with your decision

4/24/2018 07:50:00 PM

You are either an idiot of epic proportions or you just landed here from the 1950's or both. You are living in yesteryear. Nowadays, the deck is stacked against us. You might want to read up on modern day events before spouting your bullshit again.

4/25/2018 07:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only thing I'm worried about this summer is beating school traffic heading home. Worked afternoons for my entire career and finely working days. Time for some new blood to run around answering bullshit calls.

4/25/2018 08:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Headline in the Sun TImes "West Side residents plead for stronger anti-gang loitering ordinance". Ummm...See the ACLU about that.

4/24/2018 08:35:00 PM

--

exactly. forward Harvey Grossman's phone # to the hoodrats so they can discuss why theys commurnities be so violent.

4/25/2018 08:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anyone attacking me with a baseball bat is going to see their maker in short order. I give a fuck about the Police Board or anyone else. My safety is key, not some bullshit political assholes. Don't let this lib's bullshit you, the officer is going to sue, and hopefully wins the ghetto lottery.

4/24/2018 05:55:00 PM

Can't argue with that

4/25/2018 04:50:00 AM

Before this bs is over these cases against P.O’s should be heading to Supreme Court. No city jurisdiction can fire or sanction a P.O. who acts in self defense. Graham v Connor is still a valid ruling. Isn’t it?

4/25/2018 09:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Guess they finally were embarrassed enough to issue their weak response.

4/25/2018 09:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To poster 4/21/18 658PM: You call Murray and Preib maroons, then can you answer these questions: Why? What union official has waged war on the Chicago Media for the past 5 years? What Union official has testified at the City Council, COPA Board Meetings? What Union Official has written countless news articles defending the Police? (I might add that this Union Official was doing this prior to him becoming an elected Official). What Union Official has been waging war with the Peoples Law Office and Lowey and Lowey? What Union Official has been sued several times due to his writings? What Union Official has to hire his own attorney and pay for the attorney out of his own pocket to defend himself in several Law Suites? (By the way, there this official is currently being sued and he is paying for the attorney now out of his own pocket) What Union Official has exposed the false narrative of the Wrongful Conviction Movement? The answer to all those questions is, FOP Second Vice-President Martin Preib. And who has back Preib in these endeavors, Pat Murray. It is vary obvious that you have no clue on what is going on in the FOP. There is some vary serious infighting going on, on what direction the FOP should take. Why are Deanos left overs pushing back on Murray and Preib in their attempt to get more aggressive? Can there be an ulterior motive on why they are pushing back so hard? Name one person in the past several years that has defended the Police as much as Preib? Deano is the possible exception but Deano did defend the police because the was the FOP President. However, he did it so not to rock the boat. And if I am going to use your logic about them being maroons, then at least we have two maroons who are fighting for us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4/25/2018 10:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The officer's attorney should sue and subpoena COPA's 'experts' reports. With three reports, it's almost like they were shopping for one that agreed with their pre-determined judgment. And now hiding them. Go figure. The officer will win a big defamation suit.

His lawyer already fucked him when he advised him to sue the offender's family and made this story much bigger than it needed to be and not go away but fester. It also pissed off Rahm and he stuck it in the kid's ass.

4/25/2018 12:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...
Just call a White Shirt for onscene instruction for every call. That way a higher ranking White Shirt can't break it off in your A , because he would hurt his buddy.

Repeat after me:

"Can I get a supervisor over here?"

4/24/2018 06:13:00 AM

If you call for a supervisor on every single job, you're just documenting that you have no idea what you're doing and can't make a decision. And you won't have time to wait for one during an attack or an in-progress job.

Well Sarge, you wanted to have those little chevrons so badly didn't you. Unfortunately you didn't see this coming. Well I agree, and will now call a sergeant to respond whenever a situation may arise when the likelihood of physical force may need to be employed. Don't like it!? Well that's just too damn bad. Time to earn your money asshat and get some skin in the game. If I'm going to be crucified later for the application of the proper use of force, you are going to be hoisted up right besides me as well.

4/25/2018 01:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My feelings exactly, after I kill some asshole trying to bust my head opened, I too don't give a fuck. Going hone in one piece is all I care about. P.S., fuck you ting dancer.
4/24/2018 10:05:00 PM.

If you're parked in some hole playing video games on your IPad,the only person you have to worry about busting your head is your partner. 10-4?

4/25/2018 03:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A demonstration of a bat in action is needed in the officers suit and civil trail. Get three pig heads and request a jury member about the size of the offender the officer shot and have him take a swing at one of the pig heads. Then pick another in the court room too crack the pig head with the bat. Then its the attorney's turn, on the third head using the offender's bat he was welding. With use of a portable Xray show before and after negatives of pigs heads. Add in some homicide photo's of victims beaten to death with a baseball bat and guess what, all this bullshit about baseball bat's not being a deadly weapon will suddenly evaporate and the City, Offenders Parents, and the CPD will have to pay and pay.

The best part of this, cross examination of COPA and Police Board menber(s) explaining their rational of why they believe a person attaching you with a baseball bat would not be able to cause great bodily harm or death. I'm very sorry that the Officer has go though the process, but in the end he will prevail.

4/25/2018 03:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Well Sarge, you wanted to have those little chevrons so badly didn't you. Unfortunately you didn't see this coming. Well I agree, and will now call a sergeant to respond whenever a situation may arise when the likelihood of physical force may need to be employed. Don't like it!? Well that's just too damn bad. Time to earn your money asshat and get some skin in the game. If I'm going to be crucified later for the application of the proper use of force, you are going to be hoisted up right besides me as well.


Good luck with lunch and time on the end tough guy.

4/25/2018 04:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rham sat on the LaQuan video for a year while Anita Alvarez, the Corp. Counsel, The Supt. Of Police and yes the FOP kept quiet, failing to define the narrative all in the hope that this incident would fade away. Rham is forced to release the video after trying to buy off a neglectful family, and the stuff hits the fan. Everyone is forced to play catch up and fails miserably. Elections are won and lost, an arrest made, a ‘special prosecutor’ assigned to placate the media. More first degree murder charges are filed against Van Dyke than are filed against the guy who killed four people in a Waffle House. High ranking city and current and former police officials involved an the alleged ‘cover up’ may have been inconvenienced but have paid no price for their actions. Tell me again. Why would I want to live in Chicago?

4/25/2018 05:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Once election season gets closer to Election Day why don’t we all have a no confidence vote on this mayor .

4/25/2018 05:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
To poster 4/21/18 658PM: You call Murray and Preib maroons, then can you answer these questions: Why? What union official has waged war on the Chicago Media for the past 5 years? What Union official has testified at the City Council, COPA Board Meetings? What Union Official has written countless news articles defending the Police? (I might add that this Union Official was doing this prior to him becoming an elected Official). What Union Official has been waging war with the Peoples Law Office and Lowey and Lowey? What Union Official has been sued several times due to his writings? What Union Official has to hire his own attorney and pay for the attorney out of his own pocket to defend himself in several Law Suites? (By the way, there this official is currently being sued and he is paying for the attorney now out of his own pocket) What Union Official has exposed the false narrative of the Wrongful Conviction Movement? The answer to all those questions is, FOP Second Vice-President Martin Preib. And who has back Preib in these endeavors, Pat Murray. It is vary obvious that you have no clue on what is going on in the FOP. There is some vary serious infighting going on, on what direction the FOP should take. Why are Deanos left overs pushing back on Murray and Preib in their attempt to get more aggressive? Can there be an ulterior motive on why they are pushing back so hard? Name one person in the past several years that has defended the Police as much as Preib? Deano is the possible exception but Deano did defend the police because the was the FOP President. However, he did it so not to rock the boat. And if I am going to use your logic about them being maroons, then at least we have two maroons who are fighting for us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

4/25/2018 10:47:00 AM

Wow, your too are a moron, or a maroon as you like to say.
Waged war on the media.......stop! Waged war to sell books for himself and his non-police career.
Testified? You mean show up at these meetings and wait in line for a turn like the rest of the public, again stop!
Countless articles? Are those the one published on his blog, on Facebook and now on an FOP blog that all revert back to Alstory Simon and Anthony Porter..... please!
You are delusional and dumb. Wake up stupid. Worry about wages and healthcare when it's your turn to leave. Not some ghetto nonsense that happened 40 years ago. Geez, we are fucked.

4/25/2018 11:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone attacking me with a baseball bat is going to see their maker in short order. I give a fuck about the Police Board or anyone else. My safety is key, not some bullshit political assholes.

Right on Brother, I'm with you. Any stink-in COPA or Police Board bitch or asshole that says otherwise can kiss my ass. Fire me who gives a fuck, but remember they've just created a Frankenstein criminal and they all gots caves also. Not a threat but a promise, so sick of the world we live in were the criminal is the good guy and the law abiding citizen is the new threat according to some political assholes. Revolution can't come any sooner and believe me these fucken politicos will not be forgotten, just looky was hapening in Central America, people are fed up with their so called crooked elected officials.

Be safe brothers and sisters in blue and make sure you end up on the right side when the time comes and it will......God Bless

4/25/2018 11:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...


Well Sarge, you wanted to have those little chevrons so badly didn't you. Unfortunately you didn't see this coming. Well I agree, and will now call a sergeant to respond whenever a situation may arise when the likelihood of physical force may need to be employed. Don't like it!? Well that's just too damn bad. Time to earn your money asshat and get some skin in the game. If I'm going to be crucified later for the application of the proper use of force, you are going to be hoisted up right besides me as well.


Good luck with lunch and time on the end tough guy.

This is the problem with a lot of these asshole coppers on the job, stop kissing ass to get of early, doing whatever some of these moron white shirts tell you to bring in just to get off early. Grow a pair and stay on till its time to go home. One thing I learned on this job is never ask for favors, especially from white shirts because they will hold you up for it when the time is right. And yes you're probably going to work in a shit district for most of you're career for not kissing ass but theirs a thing called seniority on this bozo the clown job. Bottom line, protect yourself presently on this lousy job because these white shirts will not be there for you at you're hearing to help you, in this stinking age of policing is every man/women to himself/herself. I gots one more year to go, so long suckas. This was the best job in the world to have back in the day, now the powers to be have ruined this once, good and honest profession. God Bless......

4/26/2018 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well Sarge, you wanted to have those little chevrons so badly didn't you. Unfortunately you didn't see this coming. Well I agree, and will now call a sergeant to respond whenever a situation may arise when the likelihood of physical force may need to be employed. Don't like it!? Well that's just too damn bad. Time to earn your money asshat and get some skin in the game. If I'm going to be crucified later for the application of the proper use of force, you are going to be hoisted up right besides me as well.

4/25/2018 01:12:00 PM

Unfortunately for you failure to take police action is a spar or CR number. I have a feeling it'll be a CR for you.

4/26/2018 12:43:00 AM  
Blogger grunt archangel said...

Some one from the FOP prolly had a chat with a juiced up goon from Rhams security detail--while delivering a Rhams lunch... and thought Be-Jesus!

Fuck those Judus kool aide drinking guys on the security detail. Those goofs lick the walnuts out of rahms ass for those spots, even if rahm is telling them that he is destroying the once proud police department.

4/26/2018 07:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well Sarge, you wanted to have those little chevrons so badly didn't you. Unfortunately you didn't see this coming. Well I agree, and will now call a sergeant to respond whenever a situation may arise when the likelihood of physical force may need to be employed. Don't like it!? Well that's just too damn bad. Time to earn your money asshat and get some skin in the game. If I'm going to be crucified later for the application of the proper use of force, you are going to be hoisted up right besides me as well.

4/25/2018 01:12:00 PM

That's cute, but unless you can explain over the air why you need a sergeant at your job, you won't see this one or any of the other ones I know. Requesting a sergeant doesn't mean you get one. You're not in charge of shit. You need a sergeant because you're afraid to do your job? Sorry, but you're on your own. Make a decision or find a new job that doesn't make you piss your pants and call for daddy. "I need a sergeant because I might need to use force." "I need a sergeant because this guy is being mean to me and not listening." "I need a sergeant because my diaper needs changing." Do your job and maybe you'll learn enough to be a sergeant someday. Doubtful, but at least you're delusional enough to think it's possible. What zone should I be listening to and during which watch so I can laugh at you when you keep calling for a sergeant? I'm asking despite the fact that we all know you won't actually be asking for a sergeant like you're pretending on here. Study hard, buckaroo.

4/27/2018 08:32:00 AM  

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