Monday, October 03, 2005

Who made Who? Who made You? (AC/DC)

The Big Monday Post! (posted Sunday at 10:10pm)

This will remain at the top of the site ALL DAY Monday - check below for updates

This (hopefully) will be a kind of beginner's guide to Chicago Police Department merit promotions. Sgt. Northern? We'll trust you to forward it to Federal Monitor Noelle Brennan. If she is truly legit, she'll find it amusing and informative.

If anyone remembers their sunday school, or midnight christmas masses, you may recall the gospel of matthew: Abraham begat Issac; Issac begat Jacob; Jacob begat etc., etc. That's what this thread is all about. We want your knowledge! Who begat whom on the Chicago Police Department? We want to hear all about it!

We'll even begin with the obvious:
  • cline (philip, superintendent) begat matthew (sergeant, intelligence);
  • christian (sam, d/c A/5) begat allison (sergeant 024);
  • stroger (john, cook county board president) didn't begat niece adrian stanley (commander) the fastest ever made boss in the history of the department - under 10 years from patrol to exempt!
The list has got to be huge. So we want your info. Name the names people - the Clout Curtain falls on this thread! The only rule is we want relatives - blood relatives. No bedroom promotions. If enough interest is forthcoming, we'll toss this one in the side bar by the other big comment generators. And maybe we'll get another thread covering the "extra curricular" promotions later.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

Theres so much, where do we start?

10/02/2005 10:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


10/02/2005 10:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ron Hubberman made me AC/DC, I was drunk at a party and he showed me the real act of man to man action.

10/02/2005 10:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


10/02/2005 10:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leroy Pestka (a5 sgt/w.c.) and wife Janet Pestka, p/o sgt. lt. d/c in 13 deputy? She started out as a deputys driver.

10/02/2005 10:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ronnie Tomassi in 010 changed his name to that of his step father Joe Blas to get a sergeant promotion - he's in 012 now whiile ol Joe is retired

10/02/2005 10:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tannehill's clout was his father, a lockup keeper in 20. Father retired as a p/o but still had the clout. Made son sgt., lt., right on up the ladder.

10/02/2005 10:54:00 PM  
Anonymous disgusted by this said...

Hey, speaking of 010, how about this one? Ralph Chiczewski has two daughters on the job, one in 011 and one in 010. The one in 010 is still on probation fromthe academy and ralphie called the commander to get her on days cause midnights was ruining her social life. So now she's listed as a school car, but works the day desk with under 2 years on. How soon till the daughters make detectives or sergeants? some single guy could go far on this job marrying them!

10/02/2005 10:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets not forget sexual favors... its not just family that gets promoted... a pretty mouth can too.

10/02/2005 10:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

a sexy male butt can do the job too!

10/02/2005 11:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.

10/02/2005 11:00:00 PM  
Blogger SCC said...

knock it off knucklehead

10/02/2005 11:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To SCC, please expose the X MANS IP ADDRESS so we can send it some crap.

10/02/2005 11:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cmdr. Ralph also has a sister working as a travel agent at TRUSZ TRAVEL for over 15 years. What ever happened to Sgt. Bob (Robert) Trusz?

10/02/2005 11:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


10/02/2005 11:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Trusz got in trouble when his son got DUIed up in minnesota and had a flashlight inscribed with some 010th district coppers star number on it along with a CPD radio reported missing by good old bob. what a goof

10/02/2005 11:17:00 PM  
Blogger SCC said...

Knucklehead, if you're capable of making sense and trashing daley and pointing out huberman's connections and everything else, why are you being a dick with the monster nonsense posts? Contribute and let everyone else contribute also. Don't fuck it up for everyone else

10/02/2005 11:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me try one.... Ret. Sgt. Bruce Engstrom begat two daughters. One is a recent LT. The other recently made Sgt. assigned to 001. Bruce currently has been working for Aldercreature Rugai (19th)

10/02/2005 11:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lt. Michelle Engstrom is a HOTTIE who will go far!

10/02/2005 11:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Far and wide!

10/02/2005 11:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A little off subject but on the fop website it talks about cha special employment for all officers that either work in cha north or used to work in cha south. Question is how can they offer this special employment to only these p.o.'s and not to all p.o.'s? And the fop thinks this is ok?

10/02/2005 11:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

stick to the subject at hand, there is a time and a place for the other stuff

10/02/2005 11:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Supt. James Conlisk (Shoot to kill all looters - '68 riots - told to give order by old man Daley), son Lt. James Conlisk. (buried in politics, never higher that LT.)

10/02/2005 11:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sgt. Rick Ramos (Atzlan) mass transit. Changed name in 20 when he was a p/o to reflect his true mexican heritage, did'nt know that Ramos would make him a SGT. anyway under the 20%.

10/02/2005 11:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey leave Conlisk alone, he fills in for Homer Simpson and Barney Fife whenever needed. His wife's got all the clout over in O.P.S.

10/02/2005 11:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Secondcity what ever happened to them?

10/03/2005 12:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Old man Conlisk lived in Norridge. People on his left and right lived in Norridge, across the street was Norridge. He had his property annexed into Chicago thru his back yard which abutted Chicago proper. They even installed a fire hydrant and street light in front of his house to make it look legit, and so he could pay Chicago taxes. You think they would do that for you?

10/03/2005 12:06:00 AM  
Anonymous NorthSide said...

I have no comment re: the mention of my name in moderator's preface to this thread.

However, I will repeat the eMail addresses of attorneys. While I doubt that either seek mere anecdotal information, enter "CPD Patronage/Corruption" in the subject field.

Noelle Brennan:

Michael Shakman:

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Replies to earlier comments:

(Retired Sgt.) Robert Trusz passed away earlier this year. Among other things, Bob sure knew how to have (off-duty) fun. God bless Bobby!

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In my opinion, many of the police officers ranking from sgt. to deputy chief mentioned in previous posts to this thread DESERVED their positions based on actual MERIT (versus CPD "merit").

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TO: Anonymous 10:49:59 PM:


Did it ever occur to you that some very talented police officers who have amassed more than a thousand Part I FELONY arrests and are outstanding legitimate "test takers" never sought out "clout"?

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Finally, the late Capt. John Northen "begot" yours truly. My "meteoric rise" through the CPD began with three years in the streets of 011 followed by promotion to detective based on a legit, instantly-scored multiple choice exam. Unfortunately, I somehow fell through the cracks and made sgt. (025), never to return to my passion-the Detective Division.

I never sought out "clout" and I now wish that I had never left the Detective Division.

10/03/2005 12:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

who the hell is sgt northern..there is none in 025

10/03/2005 12:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He's now retired.

10/03/2005 12:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lt. Engstrom is hot, and smarter then you think so LQQK out.

It's a long way to the top
if you want to rock and roll.

10/03/2005 05:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Tannehill's in the 2nd post are brothers.

10/03/2005 05:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you want the family connections spelled out in some of the old time police/political families, just find an archive of the old Star magazines. They were big on marriage and birth announcements and listed all the relatives. Some very interesting combinations spelled out. You'd be surprised who is related to who on this job.

10/03/2005 06:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lol, I thought I was the only onw who realized that. Old star issues, where each district contributed, are full of enlighting connections.

10/03/2005 07:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are we doing blood by injection? If so I got one Cmdr. Irene Jones was begotten by Inspector Voight (retired) her husband before he married her sister, then begot by Cmdr. Robles (ads retired), then begot by Sgt. Jones Area 6 V/C (retired) Malone crony. I guess she was begotten by lots of others, these are just the ones she married.

10/03/2005 07:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Someone should list all the relatives of retired 1st Deputy Charlie Ford, although you might not have enough bandwidth for that :)

10/03/2005 07:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lt. D. Heraty is the duaghter of fromer Lt. Heraty, who was this/close with Hanhardt (sp?)

10/03/2005 07:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There's a lot of strange decisions on this job related to family reasons. Can anybody name the big boss who was the ex-husband of a politician's sister who was about to be dumped? The dumped was stopped because she would then get less alimony/child support. Now there's a reason to keep somebody in there spot.

10/03/2005 07:49:00 AM  
Anonymous NorthSide said...

A warning to all readers. This thread appears to be a magnet for some cowardly and pathetic "anonymous" posters.

While I do not know the active lady officers mentioned in the 7:34 and 7:38 AM posts , I can attest to the FACT that during my career, Jim Jones (and partner Jim Biebel) and Mike Malone (and partner John Farrell) were among the finest detectives I have ever encountered. In addition, Hugh Heraty was admired and respected by all. With the exception of Lt. John Farrell, all have since retired.

10/03/2005 08:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

scc asked for blood lines, the heraty thing is a blood line, the hanhardt connection is just a side note, if you inferred so be it, nothing was implied

10/03/2005 08:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The rumored boss to be dumped but saved by the wife was A4 deputy chief, former commander of 022. Dennis Nowicki I thnk.

10/03/2005 08:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can anyone name all the people that Malloy got promoted out of the 008th dist the last few years this man has set up his own command structure by the way he is Capt. Hughes (Ret) Family and Capt Hughes grew up with a little bridgeport stuttering snot named richie. Capt. Hughes is now an executive with SPI securtiy which has a lot of city and county contracts.

10/03/2005 08:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lets not forget Area 2 Dept. chief Mike Sields he is the patronage bastard child of the Jackson family. I hope the feds nail him he ruined coppers by putting that criminal corey flagg on the gun team when no one wanted him.

10/03/2005 08:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isnt the thing called the commander of 021 Stogers Niece. Seen it in passing what a disgrace talks worse than Daley.

10/03/2005 08:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Bill Nolan said...

Use your feckin' heads for once. The whole aspect of this is that the city has its 30% meritorious. If you're that pissed about clout, force a change in the contract! Oh, wait thats right, most coppers were more concerned about raises and retros but didn't dig their heels in on other issues. Next time screw the money issues and go after the real issues like the City's 30%. Remember, we all at one point approved the meritorious and now the bosses get their picks and it's 100% legit! You want to blame someone, blame ourselves.
I can understand why SCC started this post, but as usual it's turning into something different. A bash fest of petty jealousy and political spite. Thats what led to the demise of the old Second City site.

10/03/2005 09:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ya good coppers Handhart would be told by the outfit who to arrest, he would send out these wonderful coppers to pick up a named person, they would bring him in and beat the shit out of him, until he confessed to Handhardt, great police work.

10/03/2005 09:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like you were there. Did you fink to keep your job or do that right thing and eat 5 yrs at club fed?

10/03/2005 10:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Not to be a stickler, but the proper title for this thread is "Who made Whom?" not "Who made Who?" Being a lawyer (or having one as a regular contributor to your BLOG), you should strive for proper english, the tool of your craft.

That's right. I smell a lawyer amongst the SCC crew... not that there's anything wrong with that.

Many of your posts have the distinct mark of an author who has undergone years of tortuous legal training. Confess and celebrate. Don't hide and denigrate.

What saith you, Counselor?

10/03/2005 10:45:00 AM  
Anonymous NorthSide said...

Could the last poster be Torquemada Redux? Sounds like the evil Grand Inquisitor to me.

10/03/2005 11:26:00 AM  
Blogger SCC said...

BUZZZZ! Wrong!

Evidently, you don't listen to AC/DC - The song title is "Who Made Who" so we copied it. We aren't sticklers for proper english but we try to at least sound intelligent. Not our fault if the boys in AC/DC aren't so proper. In fact, if you read the thread, we even wrote it out correctly "Who begat whom" in the 3rd paragraph, so we are correct on both counts.

BUZZZZ! Wrong again!

We aren't lawyers, have no legal training (aside from department stuff), and have expressed our opinions regarding "lawyers against the wall when the revolution comes." We have no lawyers on staff or contributors who are lawyers, though we have at least 2 lawyers who are readers, Shakman and Brennan.

If you want to play name games, make your accusation. If we aren't mistaken, you're probably the one who tried to rhyme Lester Rumowski with Chester Hornowski. Why you'd even want to bring that type of heat on another officer boggles the mind, unless you were wronged by Lester or Chester. Keep playing if it amuses you though.

10/03/2005 11:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Let me start by saying that I am a fan of your posts. Also, I appreciate your efforts to shed light on the City's practice of promoting the chosen based upon birthright and/or clout.

With that said, please ease up on what was initially an obscure and interesting reference. The Torquemada allusion is a bit played. Try for a new cryptic inquisitor reference. Doing so will keep the Blog's readers impressed by your purported breadth of knowledge.

Keep up the good work!

10/03/2005 12:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lesniak not dumped. Wodnicki uncle, and benevolent chinaman.

10/03/2005 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC said at 11:49:56

"If you want to play name games, make your accusation. If we aren't mistaken, you're probably the one who tried to rhyme Lester Rumowski with Chester Hornowski. Why you'd even want to bring that type of heat on another officer boggles the mind, unless you were wronged by Lester or Chester."


Whoa there big fella!

1) No one is playing name games. Some of your posts read as if written by someone with legal training (beyond the standard CPD Academy case reporting classes). I thought it ironic that the SCC crew may have an attorney on staff given the Blog's hostile overtone toward lawyers. It was an inquiry, not an inquisition (satisfied northside?).

2) I neither know nor ever heard of anyone named Lester Rumowski or Chester Hornowski. To quote the dearly departed Phil Hartman impersonating the dearly departed Frank Sinatra, "Boo-hoo! You had me, and then you lost me."

3) "Bring that type of heat on another officer?" I repeat, Boo-hoo! You had me, and then you lost me.

Finally, I'm a big fan of the blog. It's an invaluable forum for coppers who, until now, have not had a resounding voice and downright entertaining. I thank you for the hard work.

I do, however, recommend that you stop breaking the Prozacs in half. Alternatively, perhaps you should opt for the decaffeinated beverages. Take it easy wizard, no one is trying to peek behind the curtain.


"Sorry I asked"

PS. Can you upload a "BUZZ" sound file so I can get the true game show feel when I'm reading your rebukes?

10/03/2005 01:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yes, wodnicki begat lesniak, just to keep in form of the original post, lol

10/03/2005 01:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sgt. Gina Dwyer Miliska, first merit class of sergeants, daughter of Rich Dwyer, C/O of 021 dumped by Leroy Martin, forced to retire.

Old boy clan promoted the daughter to merit sgt, (SGT. Mommy) close friend of ADS Follaird, how convenient. Went to 006 for six periods and then back to 001 for good. Used to be on the desk or building security at old building as a p/o. Claims to hav been the police in seven but was always on maternity leave.

Promoted based on merit because she is good at running parties and kissing up to the brass. Real politician on every party committee.

10/03/2005 01:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Merit Sergeant Jos. Sullivan from SOS. Old 001st district dog, foot man do nothing pouche. Became buddy/buddy/ with Mc Nulty, and Follaird providing beer, ice and other important shake downs as a foot man in the fighting first district touring the battle of the Taste of Chicago. Rumored bag man, sorry no proof. Merit Sgt. in the first class, loyal 19th Warder, name prominently displayed on all Ginger Rugaui posters. Fun guy to drink with but was never the working police.

10/03/2005 01:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dont leave out Sergeant Thomas Toner, promoted as a merit sergeant in the first class of Merit appointees. Toner (no late arrests boys, please dont cut into my drinking time) was made by the
retired boss George Ruchrich.{improper spelling}

Toner is off great police genes. His pop took the heat and was indicted for Hughes & Ruchrich when the detail unit was caught selling parking spots and shaking down vendors at the different Chicago venues. Old retired Sgt. Toner was a stand up guy and would not give up the Lt. who was Big George Ruc. Ask J. Northern.
Corruption was away of life at that time, in the over all picture the guys were taking peanuts compared to the illecit corruption in 018 at the time.
The police board fired Mr. Toner, who then went to work for the county as a chauffer for a County board member. The circuit court up held the firing but was reversed by the Illinois Appealate court, by a 2 to 1 margin. The old sgt. was rehired by the city and retired from 012. He was a good man and great sgt. He died to young I do not believe he collected many pension checks.

Along comes junoir who was ranked at 1278 on the sergeants list. At that time there was a question about his academic qualifications, but again the olde boy network came along and placed Tom Toner in the first class of merit sergeants. At graduation he recieved his baton and immdeiately began swapping spit with Sgt. Jillian now from dick unit who was then in 018. Big George and George Jr. were both at the graduation ceromony, it was a Kodak momet.

In sergeants school he was drunk for a couple of days,
but he is a real politician with the police bosses. Those of us promoted with him are in amazement Danny Duggan but up with his shannigans, he is always late and wants to leave early. He luvs old women and has a wooden leg, and is a nice person. Did he deserve to be a Sgt. No way. He b.s'. on the sixty credit hours, and used his old mans cronies to get made.

Honest guys on the list got screwed who followed the rules and out scored him.

10/03/2005 01:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dont leave out Sergeant Thomas Toner, promoted as a merit sergeant in the first class of Merit appointees. Toner (no late arrests boys, please dont cut into my drinking time) was made by the
retired boss George Ruchrich.{improper spelling}

Toner is off great police genes. His pop took the heat and was indicted for Hughes & Ruchrich when the detail unit was caught selling parking spots and shaking down vendors at the different Chicago venues. Old retired Sgt. Toner was a stand up guy and would not give up the Lt. who was Big George Ruc. Ask J. Northern.
Corruption was away of life at that time, in the over all picture the guys were taking peanuts compared to the illecit corruption in 018 at the time.
The police board fired Mr. Toner, who then went to work for the county as a chauffer for a County board member. The circuit court up held the firing but was reversed by the Illinois Appealate court, by a 2 to 1 margin. The old sgt. was rehired by the city and retired from 012. He was a good man and great sgt. He died to young I do not believe he collected many pension checks.

Along comes junoir who was ranked at 1278 on the sergeants list. At that time there was a question about his academic qualifications, but again the olde boy network came along and placed Tom Toner in the first class of merit sergeants. At graduation he recieved his baton and immdeiately began swapping spit with Sgt. Jillian now from dick unit who was then in 018. Big George and George Jr. were both at the graduation ceromony, it was a Kodak momet.

In sergeants school he was drunk for a couple of days,
but he is a real politician with the police bosses. Those of us promoted with him are in amazement Danny Duggan but up with his shannigans, he is always late and wants to leave early. He luvs old women and has a wooden leg, and is a nice person. Did he deserve to be a Sgt. No way. He b.s'. on the sixty credit hours, and used his old mans cronies to get made.

Honest guys on the list got screwed who followed the rules and out scored him.

10/03/2005 01:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me try one.... Ret. Sgt. Bruce Engstrom begat two daughters. One is a recent LT. The other recently made Sgt. assigned to 001. Bruce currently has been working for Aldercreature Rugai (19th)

I was in Michelles study group, she passed the sergeants exam on the legit, I saw her score 301.
She was sixty something on the Lts.
Her old man was a hornery dude and never wanted the kids on the job.

I would bet the younger one made it of the list, but since you do not have a union you will never no will we.

10/03/2005 01:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Lesniak was married to Jermiah Joyces niece. Les always had a wandering eye, and when the wife balloned up, he went for a large sized woman, a large versus a 2X.

Les was an east side politician, he was Edward Wodnickis nephew.
He was tite with Eddie V.

He surrounded himself with the rotten David Dougherty when he made commander. He made Sgt. out of the auto dicks. He made Lt. and went to Area 2 PC. He hated being the acting Lt of VC because the closest he ever came to a body was at a funeral. He would chase retired Sgts. then detectives Dolly and Mary B. around the office. They were nice women but didnt deserve Les learing at them every day.

10/03/2005 01:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In response to 1:12.
Joe Sullivan is a stand up guy all the way around. Yes he did work in 001 and at the taste but that was after app. 20 years on. He worked in gangs and the west side for years dealing with the shit. I believe he is worthy to take a merit spot. Everyone in SOS says he is a prince to work for. He is not a pouch, I have worked with him in patrol. He recently suffered a great personal loss leave the guy alone.

10/03/2005 02:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


yes younger one is off the list

10/03/2005 02:21:00 PM  
Anonymous NorthSide said...

On Monday, October 3, 2005 at approximately 1:15 PM (CDT), the following eMail text was transmitted to the Office of the Superintendent of Police. Copies were also forwarded to Mayor Richard M. Daley, Corporation Counsel Mara Georges, CPD command staff members Michael Boyce, Frank Gross, Sheri Mecklenburg, David Bayless, Debra Kirby, Robert Buckley and Dana Starks.

Copies were also forwarded to attorneys Noelle Brennan and Michael Shakman as well as Mark Donahue, FOP Lodge 7 president.

In addition, blind (bcc) copies have been forwarded to numerous unidentified individuals and/or institutions.

Over my name and contact information, the self-explanatory text of this eMail follows:

* * * * * * * * * * * * *

Superintendent of Police

Based on my personal experience in First Amendment retaliation litigation (126 F.3d 1024) versus the City of Chicago, you are herein notified of the existence of an Internet blog site "" which includes comments highly critical of ExamScam and other CPD personnel policies. Specifically, I refer to the inherent fraud alleged in so-called "merit" promotions within the CPD to positions which are NOT exempt from the Shakman Decree concerning political patronage, often referred to as "clout".

Despite the current administration's recent "executive order" prohibiting retaliation against potential CPD whistleblowers, I know that in their vindictiveness and treachery, the City of Chicago will predictably attempt to retaliate against me and any active CPD whistleblowers who responsibly exercise their First Amendment rights to speak out publicly on matters of public concern.

The sole purpose of this message is to categorically place the City of Chicago on notice of the existence of said blog site. In the future, please make no attempt to advance "plausible deniability" or immunity arguments concerning the existence of this blog site.

Thank you, sir.

(Sgt.) John Northen (Ret.)
Chicago Police Department
(Nickname: "NorthSide")

10/03/2005 02:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who cares if they are off the list or merit, alot of them boss' kids know, in advance, what the test will consist of, they don't have to bother studying. Alot of nice people get made just because of who begat them. Just look at the last name, and literally about half had a daddy who was a white shirt.

10/03/2005 02:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone know Corey Flagg's gene pool? His old man was supposed to have left the job under a cloud in the 70s. Anyone long enough in the tooth to know the story?

10/03/2005 02:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sgt. Carl Flagg???

Way to go, Johnny Northside!

10/03/2005 03:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Something you should read:
An evaluation of the Illinois Dept. of Correction's Juvenile Division Special Supervision Units Program;
Sex Offender Treatment Unit
Norman Padalino

10/03/2005 03:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


10/03/2005 03:35:00 PM  
Blogger Shadi said...

Pretty interesting thread so far SCC. Would you consider adding an "OPEN THREAD" soon after these specific ones so the Po-Po jonesing about different topics have an appropriate place to "let it out"? (maybe with an accompianing little graphic- "Free Swim" or something witty? "Take a Personal"? "Equipment Adjustment"? "On Reports"? "Baby Furlough"? etc... (maybe someone reading has a good monicker in mind?)

For the record I was the schmuck (innocently) wrongly guessing about Rumowski maybe being the Mnenomic Phenom, and hence thought you might have been making a veiled hint at who you might be
(I wrongly guessed you were a possible computer-friendly Blu-Wave associate of the Horn-Dog.) Although haven't you recently encouraged more "public" guessing as to your "secret" indentity by inviting your readers to try and spot your initials in the S.S. Whit-anic/Childhood Scrawlings thread? So is it kosher or not to publicly post re: your possible "Klark Kent" persona?

Regardless, let me state that I am NOT the earlier poster on this thread (nor he I, duh) who so "impertinently" accused you of "lawyerly tendencies"! You know what they say about accusers- "takes one 2 know 1"! I wholeheartedly agree with him re: the "keep up the good work" wishes (even when "we" occasionally clash in sock-puppet battle of the titans!) I believe that poster when he states he had basically good intentions behind his "fishing expedition"...

- eduerFnydahS .rD & many others 2 numerous to mention... but definitley NOT "X or +" or the bad "ztnuM nosleN"...! ;-)

10/03/2005 03:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HANDHART was the Bad man for the MOB He made sure all those honest boss,s down town got their monthly.If you were one of the boys he used to get a copy of the test results for ALL the exams and sell them.

10/03/2005 03:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whoever wrote that about Joe Sullivan obviously does not know the man. He was a sgt. of mine in 009 on mids and is one of the most soft-spoken, nicest men I have ever met. Some of you are bitter bitter ***holes. I would love for you people to say the crap you write on here to their face..This blog is good outlet to gripe about police issues..but some of you who love to make personal attacks are nothing but cowards

10/03/2005 04:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

your right about Handhardt. He is also the guy that aimed the current Supt Klein at various dope dealers on behalf of the outfit know eliminate certain competion. This was through Handhart's old partner, Hinchey. Did Klein have dinner once each week with Handhardt? Didn't he proudly display a picture of the two of them together on his wall in A5. Wonder if its displayed in the Supt office.

10/03/2005 04:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rod Robinson--son of Jerry
Wayne Wiberg--son of Wayne

Maybe we should start a thread about what bosses' kid isn't a supervisor?????

10/03/2005 05:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey dumb fuck, learn to spell Klein? I hope you are all females that are writing this crap, because you sure sound like it. Carry on bitches....

10/03/2005 05:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

no problem boss

10/03/2005 05:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isn't there something called a "freedom of information act" that would require the city to expose the real list from the meritorius.

10/03/2005 05:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sullivan? Are these folks any relation?

10/03/2005 05:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tasch and the son of tasch

Try all of the Schweigers. Steve; brother of Steve,Dave(now deceased; Steve's son.

10/03/2005 06:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sgt. John Northen was a merit guy.

10/03/2005 07:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leroy Martin was Northside's "clout". LMAO!

10/03/2005 07:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some of te people mentioned aren't bad bosses. Some have worked in working disticts. I don't have clout, and personally don't seek it. If it's blood, all of us would take care of our own. I would. Is it right? I don't know. If they are put in a position of supervision in a working district and don't protect their people, then they are crap. There are plenty of crappy supervisors with out clout. As far as those named, I can tell you that Matt is alright. He knows the job and watches out for P/O's. Ronnie Blass spent years in 010 and knows what he's doing. I'd rather have a bosses kid that grew up in an enviroment of " the Police " then some schmuk that's juiced or a good test taker.

10/03/2005 08:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nice post, wayne, how's your dad doing?

10/03/2005 08:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My goodness, "you dumb bitches", writing about Supt. Klein are in trouble now. One of Supt. Kline's butt kissers, is angry. Just think he may even tell Supt Cline about what you females are writing.

10/03/2005 08:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I want to know more information about the Flagg family, please respond.

10/03/2005 08:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

An outstanding "test taker" and an outstanding police officer need not be mutually exclusive.

10/03/2005 09:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

8:1516 again
I agree, but a meritorious ad a bosses kid being a good boss is also not mutually exclusive. What i was trying to say is that the bosses kids I've worked with are good police. Are there crappy ones? I'm sure there are. For the record, I've only worked in " the ghetto" . time flies when your busy.

10/03/2005 10:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I feel they should drop the College requirements for Sgts. and Even Lts. I feel Police should be led by Police, no matter the education. There are far too many good Patrolmen without college that would definitely be outstanding supervisors. Hell, they get more respect now than the bosses.

10/03/2005 11:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've read five different names on here in two different threads where the supervisor was labeled as "meritorious" when they weren't. If you don't like someone for good reason or bad that's fine. You don't have to make shit up or repeat rumours to justify your dislike. I think it betrays peoples own sense of entitlement more than anything. You should type, "I am the real police, I decide who the real police are, and I should be a boss". Go ahead and blast me, it doesn't matter. This job is filled with small minded people and that's why it's so easy for the city to ride roughshod over us; no unity.

10/03/2005 11:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 03 oct 0531 hrs

the current superintendant of the CPD spells his name C-L-I-N-E

10/03/2005 11:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks, Phil.

10/04/2005 12:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Isn't Sgt. Banachevists' (sp?) (014) dad a Lt. Sorry cna't spell Polish last names too good....

10/04/2005 01:15:00 AM  
Anonymous 8 4 8 said...

They used to come out and identify the "merit" promotees when the lists came out. What do YOU think the reasons are behind all the secrecy now? I have a strong opinion of why I think they are under wraps.

"And, if so many of these "merit" promotees are so wonderful, why not list their names so the other 8,000 P.O.'s will actually think that if they are good police and do a great job, there may be a promotion involved at some later time," he remebered dreaming about as he woke from his state of semi-consciousness.

That would mean the job is actuallly "legit".

10/04/2005 01:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom Clark and Sue Clark, both Lts. whose dad was a Deputy. By the way they made it off the list, no merit, and they r not bad people either.

10/04/2005 02:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone can make it off the list if they know what will be on the test. Boss' kids who make it can be ok, but they know what is on the test. Why do you think alot of married females, keep their maiden name, so Daddy's name stays out there.

10/04/2005 05:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Northern has done it again, if in fact that post is accurate. Way to go dummy! Why let all those folks know? I think he wants this site to fail.

10/04/2005 11:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yo mama, boss

go, northside!

10/04/2005 12:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Who's "the dummy"? Northside and me made the dick's list together when it was legit. He had the top score in the whole dept.

What's your grudge, DUMMY?

10/04/2005 12:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

PLEASE. You've got to be kidding about being legit. Nothing in this dept is legit and if you actually think so your feeble minded. I don't doubt that you made it on your own but to say that a test was actually legit!! Its about who you know in this dept.

10/04/2005 01:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Believe it or not, rookie. In a galaxy a long, long time ago, the dick's test was considered the only legit test the city gave. As soon as you completed the multiple choices, you handed it in for a computer scan. They gave you your raw score right then and there.

To bad they don't do today's promotion scams the way they did it back then. Check it out with old-timers, kid!

Northern did have the best score of about 2000 guys.

10/04/2005 01:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the dicks exam was flown in overnight from Philadelphia with some kind of seals for security. the seal was of the bundles was only breoken in the classrooms just before the test would start. that way, you knew that the politcans and bosses were not tipping off their favorites. right after the test, they ran them thru computers and told you your score.
aside from the old dicks test, the whole job is politics with secrecy and no paper trails. the newspapers know its all bull---t but they just let it go on. as long as the snow streets are shoveled and garbage is picked up, the public couldn't care less. that's Chicago. the taxpayers get the police force they deserve. when's payday?

10/04/2005 02:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In the early 1970's, the govt. started that "affirmative action" crap, saying it was only "temporary". Today, it has become a birthright. I find it funny that in those dick's tests, minority officers had top scores at least twice. One black guy was named George Banks.

10/04/2005 02:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The problem with the old dicks test was some people still had the correct answers before they opened the packets and had neer perfect scores. Sure they scored the test immediately after, but if you were one of the lucky ones, you aced the test.

10/04/2005 02:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even when it was legit, it was never legit if you knew the right people.

10/04/2005 02:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ladies and Gentleman: Although the Det.s test was scored right in the classroom, please don't think it was on the up & up. That part about the seal being broken was a bunch of crap, I took the last scantron scored test. Now if I remember correctly in the first class made off that list, about the first 20-30 that were made had only one thing in common-------hmmm! What was that you ask??? OK I will tell you. They were either on George Ruckridges tact team or they had been on one of his teams! Enlightening I'd say. By the way, one of those who was fortunate to be in the first class, admitted he and his group had the test two nights before it was given. PS He in fact was a good DET., right up to his passing, and so were many in his group. But legitimate---HARDLY!

10/04/2005 02:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


10/04/2005 03:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was in the first dick's class in 1972. Process was on the up and up.

George Banks was as sharp as a whip and was always locking up auto thieves on the south side. Nice guy.

10/04/2005 03:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And don't forget about Harold's bodyguards who made Sgt., even though they were with him in China when the test was given. Legit, right!

10/04/2005 03:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Back to the subject, Ret. Lt. Ron Evans begat Sgt. Ron Evans, the late Ret. Lt. Koch begat Lt. Gerry Koch. And I am saving some for later.

10/04/2005 03:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was also in a first class of dicks. Only about 5 of 40 guys came from cushy specialized units. Almost all came from district patrol or task force. Compare that with top guys on a sgt/lt exam where the first group is loaded with heavyweights from cushy units.
That alone tells you a whole lot.

10/04/2005 03:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dep Chief Kennedy begat Lt Kennedy, in the first promotion class at every step. Always had a cushy job. We'll see what happens now with "uncle" Mauer gone. Nothing is legit.

10/04/2005 05:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about Marty Gainer from OCD.
Merit Sgt. out of Intel. then to 022 for two months then back to Intel making Lt.'s pay and company car. Who is his Bro??????????

10/04/2005 05:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The worst was Dawn Melchert from 022. Socialite Sgt. never the police. She did run a golf outing once. Oh yea and a softball tourn.
What a joke!

10/04/2005 06:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Engstrom is hot - in a 1980's big mall hair - fan of Lita Ford - kind of way. Otherwise, if you saw her at a bar, you'd start talking to her at about 0200 hours when the good looking girls had already left.

10/04/2005 08:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lt. and Det. Huels, need I say more?

10/04/2005 09:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ask around about Dawn Melchert. Ask the family of a handsome young tact man who was gunned down by a dopedealing mutt, ask the family how Dawn worked on the benefit party knight and day.Ask around, she would help any copper, and would promote anything that helps the police.TO CALL HER THE WORST IS OBVIOUSLY THE WORK OF A FRUSTRATED MUTT WHO IS UNABLE OR INCAPEABLE OF LOGICAL THOUGHT. The ladies are here guys, ya better get over it. Anybody who talks about a fellow cop like that is a punk, I pray you never reveal yourself. By the way im a guy, a long time street cop, and a friend of Dawn. I apologize to her that this even hit this stupid ass blog

10/04/2005 10:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MAybe, the jealousy bullshit should be left aside Dawn melchert left vice because she liked the street. why don't you ask the guys working under her what they think of her. i hear she is pro officers and has already shown this early in her sgt career that she will go out of her way to help a copper. She helps both on and off duty sure she runs gold outings but she alao will be 1st to back you up on the street or when a PO is in a bind. maybe we should stop worrying about how someone got somewhere and concentrate on what they do when they get there assholes

10/04/2005 10:42:00 PM  
Anonymous "Money for my friends" daley said...

Huels, as in the alderman who resigned? "Here's the link to his connection to the Hired Truck scandal as well as why he resigned later in the article."

10/04/2005 11:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was in the acadamy with Dawn, She is a very bright and decent person. Never had a chance to work with her, but I run into her on occassion, and she has always been pleasant, never having a bad thing to say about others.
If you got a problem with her, you got a problem with a lot of other people PAL.

10/04/2005 11:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Like I said in an earlier post..I cant believe that I actually work with fellow officers who post the crap I see on here..especially about Dawn. You are the biggest COWARDS I have ever seen..Say it to her face or say it to Matt Cline's face, or anyone else you people bash on here..because 99% of you don't have the sack to do it
Weasels all of you...

10/04/2005 11:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought this thread was about the privileged offspring of managers. Is Melchert an exempt child? If not, leave her off this thread. Gotta gripe about her? Then go bitch someplace else. Maybe to her face if you have any stones.

10/04/2005 11:56:00 PM  
Anonymous 99 S. CONFIDENTIAL said...

The deal is this: most of us assholes study ALL the orders when a test is announced. Some study just 50% of the listed orders, while the ELITE study between 15-30 % of the orders. The key thing here is that no one has to GIVE the test away but rather just reveal to those ELITE Officers what ORDERS to REALLY know. That's the key just knowing what orders are going to be on the test.

10/05/2005 02:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is Commander Nicholas Roti (Gang Investigations) related to the former (indicted) Alderman Roti?

10/05/2005 03:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone ever notice how many "Smith", "Jones" and "Johnson"s are on the job? I wonder how many of them are related!!!!!!

10/05/2005 03:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Still cryin' about tests dummy? Bitch to your mom & dad that you're stupid. They're the ones who fucked up the baby batter.

10/05/2005 06:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On topic:

Hugh Holton SR. (retired) begat Hugh Hoton Jr., now deceased

Sr. was exempt and gave it up so Jr. could get it, they wouldn't let them both be gold stars at the same time

10/05/2005 07:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dawn Melcher deserved to be a Sgt is a disgrace. Why to you idiots support her and people like Sullivan? Yes there good people no doubt about it, but what right to they have to take money and benefits away from some one who was a sucessful test taker. That is why the city gets away with the merit promotions no one wants to offend any body. Remember when the first group was made and a copy of the list was taken from Townsends office? I would rather front out a merit over the good of the group

10/05/2005 07:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey, how many female officers did coffey and whigham "begat",lol

10/05/2005 07:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Merit Sgts. Made by the retired Deputy Chief Rich Kobel the Polish Prince.

Sgt. Jack Wilkinson A2VC now retired from A2PC. Miserable Puke.

Merit Sgt. Michael McDermott, formerly A2VC and A4VC with Kobel.

Went to 009 then right back to the dicks.

Sgt. David Freil detailed dick to the Chic Prk District for 11 years. Hired Mr. Kobel as a security agent/consultant. Came back as a dick to A4 where he was immediately promoted to merit sgt, assigned to the deuce then back to A1 on days.

The police gene will carry on for the Kobel Klan. Junior is now working as an OPS investigator as he awaits appointment on the job.

10/05/2005 07:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sgt. Joe Mosely

Son of deceased retired p/o brother of the former Senator Carol Mosley Braun, loyal democratic soldier. Assigned to academy. Merit Dick, CHA watch commander back to CPD

10/05/2005 07:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can anyone name all the people that Malloy got promoted out of the 008th dist the last few years

Sgt. Michael Bicycle boy aka tee shirt sellin Murphy.

Merit all the way, worked for biff beat 834,then got to narcotics were he handed out the police radios, when not selling tee shirts from the trunk of his car. Sucked up to Phat PHil, the rest is history.

10/05/2005 07:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Name some Merit Dicks, some are so stupid, they couldnt have passed the exam

10/05/2005 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

retired ADS Tom Folliard made Darling a merit LT.

10/05/2005 08:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Say it to Matt Cline's face? Yeah, why don't you go knock on Daley's door and tell him every bad thought and word you've had about HIM!

Better yet, should I go and stalk Clinton to let him know what I really thing about HIM?

Maybe I'll go camp out on 35th street so I can scream at Phat Phil on his way into work.

You are a freakin genius my man!

10/05/2005 09:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

On the Melchert thing, sure she is a great person who is doing a good job as a merit Sgt, but thats not the point. I didn't know that being a nice person was a qualification for being a Sgt.
The point is, she never did the police work that should merit the promotion. She got the job from networking. There are lots of police out there who do the job every day and are infinately more qualified to take the merit spot that she obtained because she is a nice person. Those more qualified people should be in the position to be the good Sgt that takes care of his/her people. That is what merit is about.
And before you say it, I am not a bitter person who didn't make it. I am a supervisor with time in grade who was always a working policeman, and I made it off the list, though I would have qualified by merit if it was a fair and impartial system.

10/05/2005 09:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I would rate the Biff picks as some of the best "merit" picks around, with the exception of two of them. Still, I do not agree with the secrecy of it all.

10/05/2005 10:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The post from 9:46 is probably the truest post yet. Good testers don't equate to good bosses or good police officers. The concept of merit has been basterdized by the city.

10/05/2005 10:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guarantee that 90% of the whiners about Dawn Melchert being promoted have never worked with/for her. I've known her for the last 9 yrs. of her career and she would ALWAYS do her job and be the first on there to assist another. She runs a golf outing and a softball tournament....BIG DEAL!! The money raised from these outings go to charities such as Concerns for Police Survivors, which assists families of police officers killed in the line of duty and the Police Memorial Foundation. She spent her career (with the exception of about 2 months) in the patrol division...working! Do I agree with "merit" promotions? Absolutely not! But, get used to it cuz they're here to stay. If they are gonna promote meritorious and take your job skills into account and NOT your political connection, she deserves the promotion.

10/05/2005 11:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1) Friel is a smart guy, w/ a law degree & pro policeman. maybe thats how he merited it the fact that he works in the D unit now is probably because thats where his experience is (why waste it and train someone who doesnt know the job)
2) IF you can organize a large event or party insted of just attend it then go for it Instead of bitching about who did it. your the same guy who complains about morale and how the dept does nothing for you or the p/o's but does nothing to change it. So go back to White hen and get another free drink, then off to a free meal at burger king, and keep thinking the world owes you for wearing a uniform. Just keep it to yourself you ungrateful new breed of welfare baby.

10/05/2005 11:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anon. 10:30 am

Didn't you inadvertently leave the word "necessarily" out of your third line. If this was intentional, you are delusional.

10/05/2005 11:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Ronnie Watson(former D/C) begat son John Watson(Hell he is smart and still a P.O.)

Jerrys's kid Rod was a spoiled brat till he made Sgt and then he woke up.

10/05/2005 01:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

19th Ward Precinct Captains merit appointees.

Sgt. Gainer, OCD

Capt. Maggliono, merit Lt. and Capt.

Sgt. J. Matashack, voting booth used to be in his home on the corner. Big Rugaui supporter, wife is an active election judge. hope he makes it back, very il.

10/05/2005 02:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Matt Cline is a good guy, was a good cop and hear he is a good boss. May have even done well on exam. But I love his posse of ball lickers who follow him around and suck his ass hoping to get a scrap. The only things said about him so far are a) he is son of fat phil b)he nearly fell into the abyss now known as Smith C)he has gotten into units very quick, as have his buddies via daddy D) soon to have a Lts. test because he has 2 years as Sgt.
Which one isn't true Mr. Balllicker?

10/05/2005 02:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Soon to be made merit Sgt.

How come Cummings of the cold case squad isnt a Sergeant yet. He was a merit dick, his claim to fame is not police work but providing alcoholic beverages to the 19th Ward organization thru his tavern and party room. I love his Ginger Rugaui appreciation parties and golf outing. He should be made a commisioner in streets and san he never once did police work.

Guy runs around doing political work on CPD time for the 19th Ward. Look at Rugauis campaign disclosure form, how much did he give her in support? How about all the free service for Sheriff Sheehan. After his beef, its amazing all is forgoten and now he is in the cold case political hack squad.

Hey Phil when will this genuis be made a Sergeant

10/05/2005 02:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who is that other mope from cold case who made merit sgt.

He was Clines driver on new years, has seven years on job, was CHA cop then uncle phil put him in narcotics. Hated as a dick, cant remember last name, first name of Jim, went to 3 then back to cold case as Sgt. One year as a dick.

Real publicity hound?

10/05/2005 02:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sgt. John Hamilton, OCD trap guy, with poney tail begat by Karen Rohan,(retired legal aide to Supe) the nephew of her husband Richard.

10/05/2005 02:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Back to the subject, Ret. Lt. Ron Evans begat Sgt. Ron Evans

left out who married recently made Lt. Regina Evans.

10/05/2005 03:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hamilton is a TURD!!

10/05/2005 04:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My pony tail has nothing to do with it...I look cool I am cool and I am the best

10/05/2005 04:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey lay off Hamilton. He is the best copper ever, just ask him. Wait, you dont have to ask him, he will tell you anyway. Oh, and when you see him ask him to put my cousin's Escalade's dash back together, it rattles like crazy now.

10/05/2005 04:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hamilton is a turd...cut the hair lose some weight and get over yourself

10/05/2005 07:00:00 PM  
Anonymous Sgt. John Hamilton said...

Quit picking on me!! Me ego is getting hurt, all I want to do is tell you that I am the best copper to ever work for CPD, and drive my motorcycle with the vette engine!!

10/05/2005 11:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


10/06/2005 01:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did you know that Hamilton had a copper in 005 (no longer there) make runs for him to Bourban St. (115th/Kedzie), and pick up warm homemade bread. And have it dropped off at his house. Talk about having this guy around his pinky. Your a douchbag Hamilton!

10/06/2005 01:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joe Sullivan: Decorated Vietnam Veteran (USMC). Area 2 Task Force, Area 4 SOG, Gang Crimes West, I would say that his record speaks for itself. Bet the crybaby can't come close.

10/06/2005 01:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about John (GED) Risley, and Mike (never took a test) Cronin? Two magnificent examples of why we should study for the next promotional exams

10/06/2005 01:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to: 01:55:06

mike cronin is probably the foremost expert in gangs in the entire city... the guy still rides on hot jobs despite his age and the fact that he is disabled from an injury sustained in vietnam. he is the real police, too bad you never were, are or will be. keep writing the parkers and maybe someday you'll get a promotion... god forbid you might have to go to a working district if that happens.

-"rangers lead the way"

10/06/2005 03:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Being the "real police" and being a good boss are mutually exclusive....there are hundreds of real police who retired as patrolman who did not have the juice to go from G/S to D/C in a year and a half. Commander was a gift, D/C is an insult to those who got passed over. Just because I love baseball and I am good at it does not mean I should be leading off the series for the White Sox...get it....they should have sent Cronin to school to learn about management and people skills....something he lacks terribly.

10/06/2005 08:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't even go to Bourbon street cause it makes me sick that I have to watch the overweight ponytailed supercop hit on young women and use his connection to the owner to try to help him. Thank God most see him for what he is....douchebag

10/06/2005 08:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Joe Sullivan: Decorated Vietnam Veteran (USMC). Area 2 Task Force, Area 4 SOG, Gang Crimes

Great record/Great Merit:

Grow up little boy he still has some one elses stripes screw ball he couldnt make it on his own except for being a political patronage hack.

No one is in disagreement that he is not a good man or person but he was not the only guy from Nam on the job and he was also no ball of fire.

He has stolen the the pension from a person who passed the exam legitimately, here was a guy going to retire, but his drinking buddy promoted him. Its not right, never will be right, and we are damned because of people like him. How about the two men who refused to accept a merit promotion, instead waiting for their numbers to come up. One was a USMC, the other a navy vet, but you will write that the navy is not in the service.

The union should have filled suit against each individual merit appointee/ one on one sued by the next member passed over, like the Sgt. Assoc did in Mc Cardle vs Chicago Et al. You have been bull shitted by the the city and are the reason that all good units are led by merit supervisors and the legit guys like me are still and always will be in patrol. If it was not for our spies we would never know all the merits because of your useless union. No one has attacked the mans character, the man got his stripes long before me and others, and the only guys screwed over were the one between 350 and 450 on the list. The disillusement caused for some guys who should have made it of the list will hurt this dept for years. Guys that produced and trained you young morons for suck or swallow]sos] now are the dogs of the watch only caused by the
the illegal antics of this administration.

10/06/2005 10:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Melchert & Company

Does she not ccoinhabitate with a man who was a gang specialist and now is a big time detective. Could that be her clout??????????

10/06/2005 10:22:00 AM  
Anonymous NorthSide said...

"Being the 'real police' and being a good boss are mutually exclusive..." - Anonymous at 9:07 AM.

"Commander" Anonymous:

Do I detect jealousy on the part of an "exempt" with mediocre credentials, at best?

Either you neglected to insert the word "NOT" in your above quote or you are one insufferable and arrogant sonofabitch. While Michael Cronin and I both worked Fillmo' (at different times), I don't recall ever meeting him. Notwithstanding, "give the devil his due". By reputation, he apparently was an excellent street cop locking up hundreds of Part I felons. I respect that. I know that his mentor, "Patrolman Joe" McCarthy was a prince who led by example.

While it is very possible that an excellent street cop may be lacking in "management skills", the CPD does not send the likes of the previously "unclouted" Michael Cronin to Quantico and Northwestern and "groom" them.

You grossly ignore the FACT that in the CPD, there have been "juiceless" but excellent (legitimate) "test takers" that are equal to or perhaps surpass Cronin's performance on "the mean streets" of high-crime districts. How dare you infer that an outstanding street cop can NOT be an outstanding boss. How dare you!

Take your "juice" and shove it up your ass.

10/06/2005 10:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Capt.Deloughery (sp), can't remember her maiden name was begat by a Capt. Doty's daddy was a lt., but thisclose to starks so he got to go even higher than daddy. sgt. terri rileys daddy was a sgt. It seems like alot of these blood promotions get to go to the same rank as daddy, so now we know which sgts. will be the next lts.

10/06/2005 10:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Looking through the posts in another thread reminded me of another. Lt/co Weisskopf was begat by Lt.Weisskopf. Both good guys though.

10/06/2005 11:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why dont we quit bashing and backstabbing each other. This job is not all that bad even if pushing a beat car. It beats working for a living. We get 2 20+ day vacations, and usually can get off whenever we want. Try that in the private sector. If you hate this job and all the clout bullshit I suggest you pull the pin and try it on the other side. Good luck. How about a thread on the best, hardest working cop you know off. Please stop the crying you biatches!!!!!

10/06/2005 11:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you're just a dog-ass, "it beats working for a living". If you're an active street cop, no citizen would want your job. Could the last poster be a dog-ass?

10/06/2005 11:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To above post, My pay is the same as yours. HA HA HA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

10/06/2005 12:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Don't take it wrong northside....I didn't mean it that way...just in this circumstance. I don't begrudge anyone who is the working police a merit promotion, even though I don't agree with them. But getting made Commander and then D/C is a slap in the face to anyone standing in line for a promotion and deserves it. Be realistic....his jump was huge and would never have been done without juice......and I am a patrolman

10/06/2005 01:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gotta agree...there's a whole lot of veterans who are excellent policemen who are stuck in patrol because they have no juice. You'd be a fool not to think Cronin's "bump" from G/S to commander has patronage written all over it!!

10/06/2005 03:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What about the Other Sgt. Hamilton, John, Narco High Risk now SWAT/HBT/whatever? Is related to Ray?

10/06/2005 03:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can we now proceed to rational discourse identifying the principals involved in sexual trysts, adulterous or otherwise, that have substantively affected the hierarchy within the department. Include circumstances, times, locations and graphic details of specific sexual acts.

10/06/2005 05:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now that's a great idea for a new topic! I'm sure that Phillip " Does my appearence command respect" Kline won't get much sleep when it starts.

10/06/2005 05:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lol....nice comments on hamilton. the guy is a rubber, plain and simple. any truth to the rumor about him bussin' a cap in his own leg to get some of those awards he be pimpin'?

10/06/2005 07:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

That wouldn't surprise me in the least!

10/06/2005 07:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I gotta meet this tool. Sounds like I'm missing out on a lot of good material.

10/06/2005 09:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Saw "TOOL" Hamilton @ B. Street last night. His ponytail is turning into a skullet. And man did he get fat? I wonder if that kid that got him his hot bread gets to play with his wife's awesome fake tits. I know I did. YUM.

10/06/2005 09:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dave Friel is a fucking tool, too. Poster above that says he's pro-police and Law degreed. So the fuck what ? A JD usually makes you the victim of castration, with indemnification and civil lawsuits on your mind all the time. Friel is a pain in the cock in Area 1. He's a little shrimp, and ALL of the RBT guys hate him. Little Napoleon thinks that he's the only guy in the world that knows how to write a fucking report. Kicks back reports ALL day long. Go back to guarding the swingsets, sweet pea.

10/06/2005 09:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HAMILTON, i hope you read this. you are a tool bag man. i can't believe you even have a g/f. doesn't she get sick of your war stories? i remember seeing you in 002 when you first made sgt. what a stroke....with your long since outdated miami vice pony tail tied up in a bun like a broad. you fucking tard. and how bout being the only guy in narcotics to get ot (back in the day when they cut ot) b/c of your juice. and i swear i saw you at bourbon st. the other day wearing your awards on your old tight fitting sturgis t-shirt (and lets not forget the faded black wrangler straight pocket jeans you wear, so tight they turn your feet blue)while eating your warm bread and tossing back a "sex on the beach". God, you are a STROKE.

10/07/2005 02:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

lmao, wow. i saw so someone call hamilton's name the other day at bourbon st. He swung around so fast that his hair got caught in his awards and he ended up tripping down the stairs.....he probably turning that into a blue star award. best copper ever!

10/07/2005 02:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Friel wouldnt have to kick back reports if they were correct would he? Besides the question was merit. You dont like him, Ok. Transfer to another spot where he's not your problem. Or maybe just write the reports correctly. Most sgt's dont read reports unless they know the person who wrote it was a blithering idiot anyway.

10/07/2005 07:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks Dave

10/07/2005 08:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When Hamilton was a PPO in 014 he filed a lawsuit against his FTO after the two were involved in an accident. He actually tried to take money out of the pocket of another copper. NICE GUY

10/07/2005 11:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then he was detailed to 013 and thats when he and his new FTO responded to an assignment of "shots fired". As they pulled into the alley he told his FTO "...I think I've been shot!" To this day the FTO SWEARS he never heard a shot fired. Also mind you, this was in winter and he was wearing his leather jacket (when it still fit) but there was no bullet hole in the jacket or the shirt. Go Figure.

10/07/2005 12:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

After his probation was over he had the nerve to come back to 014 and it was only thanks to Capt Braithwaite (RIP) that he wasnt beat down right there in the roll call room. (A copy of the lawsuit was posted in the room before he arrived)

10/07/2005 12:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


10/07/2005 03:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You jealous S.O.B.s just wish you were half the cop of J.H. You know the rules too, he just plays better than you, you sorry cry babies.

10/07/2005 07:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about the Rizzi clan? One of them is sure to be exempt soon.

10/07/2005 07:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm a Sgt. in a south side district, worked in s.s. districts my whole life and have never been anywhere know who made me? I made me. I stdied my ass off and didn't have the benefit of knowing "exactly" what orders were going to be on the test..I sugggest some of you print out some orders and start studying, because if you did, you would'nt be on here crying about who got promoted by merit..SHUT THE **** UP and still have a 70% chance of getting promoted..I'll bet have off you whiny crybabys dont study or dont even take the test, instead cry and say "I didnt even take it, it's all fixed anyway"...I have never seen a bunch of more crybaby Sally's in my life

10/07/2005 07:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

studied..I guess I should run spell-check first

10/07/2005 07:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Barney the dinosaur said...

To 7:45

Sugggest? Stdied? Would'nt Have of you? Sally's

Considering your horrible abuse of the English written word, you are the exception, not the rule. Can't pass first grade English but you are a Sergeant...congrats.....Sing with me....A-B-C-D-E-F-G....

10/07/2005 07:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Tubbs from Miami Vice said...

To 7:23:

Jealous of what? There are a lot of great cops on our department...the true great ones don't walk around talking about how great they are...or embarras the job by using it to get himself things he would never have otherwise the way are you still delivering warm bread to his house you stroke?

10/07/2005 08:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heres anothet "Trap Man" story. One night trap man calls for a 17th district Tact Team to meet him (and a DEA "friend" of his) at Lawrence and Austin where there was a trap car. (why 017?...he thought he was in 017 not 016) once there the team and the DEA agent go into a burger joint on the NE corner and confront the owner (of the car and the restaurant) who is suppose to be some big time drug dealer. While inside Trap-Man slim jims the car, finds 6 oz in a trap and then closes the car back up. The drug dealer demands a search warrant and calls his lawyer. Trap-Man tells the tact team "its in there just make up some story to get to it" Needless to say the team Sgt told John its his deal they were just assisting. Last word was that TrapMan (and the fed) left the dope, the car, and the dealer there and departed with their tails between their legs

10/07/2005 08:20:00 PM  
Anonymous NorthSide said...

Anonymous 7:45:48 PM

Don't insult our intelligence with your "STUDY" bullshit, "BOSS"

10/07/2005 08:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This John "Trap Man" Hamilton sounds so pompous and self-absorbed: a real piece of work.

Prior posters say he worked 014 and 013 before OCD-Narc. Any other district experience on the west or south sides for "the Trap Man"?

10/07/2005 08:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've been on this job 19yrs., and Hamilton's gotta be the BIGGEST HAND-JOB I've come across!!!

10/07/2005 11:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey scc, would you be kind enough to start a thread of "coppers" who like to screw other coppers (retired or active). to include their names, star numbers, units of assignment, watch and d.o.g., and any other useful info (i.e. l/p#).

just to ensure the future of professional courtesy.

10/08/2005 03:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hamilton the rub worked in the duece when he first made sgt.

10/08/2005 05:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and he stuffed 10 pounds a sausage in a five pound casing when he got into the uniform..........hahahahahahahaahahahahahaha

and had to buy a hat that would accommodate his SKULLET...hahahahahahahahahahahaaha

10/08/2005 09:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah 3:24, let's out all the coppers who locked up Lt. Pattersons's kid Aaron. He is such a nice young man, they didnt have to do him like that.

You Sir are an idiot. When ever anyone tells a story the copper was a raving lunatic jag while they were a perfectly sober, not guilty peace maker. Why should that change when they are related to a copper?

10/08/2005 11:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's a great "Trapper John" tale. Our team had to go to 35th/Normal for trap training. The rumor was that he would get a hard on when he started talking about finding traps. A girl on our team ws in the second row and here goes Trapper on one of his "wasn';t I great" stories when the female starts shaking in her chair. She turns around practically crying and gestures to us that sure enough he was getting a boner. Kept covering it up with his flannel shirt. A legend in his own time.

10/08/2005 02:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some more merit sgts.

T. Koren and D. Jarmuz Area 2 Robbery.

10/08/2005 03:29:00 PM  

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