It's Official
We know that everyone isn't the political junkies what we are, but we feel 99.9% certain that today, Karl Rove is completely clear of all wrongdoing, won't be indicted and probably ought to be get his visage cast in bronze or carved in granite. How do we know this?
Because of the stunt pulled in the Senate Tuesday. Hop over to the following links and read all about the Democrat's temper tantrum when they forced the Senate into closed session: Breitbart; National Review; AnkleBitingPundits; Strata-Sphere. It's a desperation move by the Left - Iraq is going well with the recent constitutional plebiscite; Iraqi army units are coming on line; the economy is up for the 12th straight quarter at a 3.5% clip IN SPITE of Hurricane Katrina; Katrina coverage has completely fallen off the radar as the truth seeps out about incompetent local authorities; Bush has completely smoked the dems with the Alito nomination; and gas is below $2.40 a gallon in the suburbs today. In fact, the two week trend of Bush's popularity ratings are headed upwards again (but no one is reporting it).
Not only that, Tom Delay will probably be cleared of all charges shortly as his lawyer's request for recusal of the sitting judge (who made regular donations to MoveOn.org and various leftist causes) was granted yesterday. The dems have nothing to hang their hats on. No ideas to promote. So Harry Reid and Dick "Turban" Durbin force the Senate into closed session to attempt "secret talks" about pre-war intelligence when it's been proven time and time again that Joe Wilson was a liar and the entire government apparatus (Dem and Rep) believed saddam had WMD. If Bush can start bringing home troops before the 2006 midterms, watch for him to hold both majorities in congress.
Because of the stunt pulled in the Senate Tuesday. Hop over to the following links and read all about the Democrat's temper tantrum when they forced the Senate into closed session: Breitbart; National Review; AnkleBitingPundits; Strata-Sphere. It's a desperation move by the Left - Iraq is going well with the recent constitutional plebiscite; Iraqi army units are coming on line; the economy is up for the 12th straight quarter at a 3.5% clip IN SPITE of Hurricane Katrina; Katrina coverage has completely fallen off the radar as the truth seeps out about incompetent local authorities; Bush has completely smoked the dems with the Alito nomination; and gas is below $2.40 a gallon in the suburbs today. In fact, the two week trend of Bush's popularity ratings are headed upwards again (but no one is reporting it).
Not only that, Tom Delay will probably be cleared of all charges shortly as his lawyer's request for recusal of the sitting judge (who made regular donations to MoveOn.org and various leftist causes) was granted yesterday. The dems have nothing to hang their hats on. No ideas to promote. So Harry Reid and Dick "Turban" Durbin force the Senate into closed session to attempt "secret talks" about pre-war intelligence when it's been proven time and time again that Joe Wilson was a liar and the entire government apparatus (Dem and Rep) believed saddam had WMD. If Bush can start bringing home troops before the 2006 midterms, watch for him to hold both majorities in congress.
posted by SCC at 6:40 AM
31 Comments:
I'm a Dem, but I have to say that Dick Durbin is the biggest political hack outside of JJ Sr. I cringe when he comes on the TV. My wife and I race for the remote to banish his banal ass. Give me any situation you can imagine and I can give you that reactionary's position. Its a disgrace to this state that he represents us. A few quotes from Turban.
"Muslims respect our values"
"Polls show that Muslims have positive attitudes toward the American people and our values"
"it was an FBI agent describing what Americans had done to prisoners in their control, you would most certainly believe this must have been done by Nazis, Soviets in their gulags, or some mad regime--Pol Pot or others--that had no concern for human beings. Sadly, that is not the case. This was the action of Americans in the treatment of their prisoners"
Well, M, you know there had to be a counter reply to your rant.
If Rove and DeLay are cleared of ALL wrongdoing it just proves there are two systems of justice in this country.
The invasion of Iraq going well, you say? Can you say it is worth the $217 trillion, and growing? Not to mention also the cost of humanity.
The Hurricane Katrina costs haven't even started to come in, so come back at year's end on that one.
Don't count your Alitos before they are hatched, my friend. It shall come out he too was a draft evader like YOUR president. When both got a low lottery number, daddy got him in the reserves.
Cmon boys n girls...would you expect anything less??
who cares!!!!!!!!1
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I heard that computer geeks at 35th and Michigan are working on a "on-line" program where you can speak to a police officer on a web cam and he/she can handle "Yuppie" domestics, reports and other police related calls for people with the internet? Any truth to this?
$217 Trillion? You've been in the liquor cabinet again, haven't you? The entire US economy doesn't produce but about $10 Trillion dollars a year
A draft evader? Like Clinton?!? Why is it that when Clinton evades the draft, you lefties scream people shouldn't be judged on incidents that happened 35 years ago, but as soon as a Republican has a hint of military avoidance, it's fair game? You hypocrites make me sick. Why not dig up Kerry's less than honorable discharge? Let Vietnam ghosts die for chrissake.
Don't mean to interrupt, but check out the LAPD arrest of serial murderer Chester D. Turner. DNA links to his semen clears the strangulations of TEN young women. Occupation: A pizza delivery man.
PAX AMERICANA...and the world is better off because of it. The sun never sets on American domination of this planet due the valiant efforts of our Navy, Army, Air Force, and Marine Corps.
The world may hate us, but they LOVE our culture, our goods, medicine, money, freedom and safety we enjoy. Being a friend of America brings wealth, security, and the means to pursue a better way of life.
So kiss off you self-loathing libs, move to Cuba, Venezuela, or N. Korea. PAX AMERICANA.
S.C.C. -Did you just get back from DENVER or somethin'? (what'chu been s-m-o-k-i-n', son?)
To 1:15 pm
You mean POX AMERIKKKANA! A pox on every one else's houses. Real nice- such class. You don't have to loathe yourself in order to let others determine their course you loathesome thug.
AMERIKKKANERS uber alles! Seig Heil- Long Live the Great Fourth Reich!
"In a just human society the basic principles need to be adhered to and protected- and it is no defense of their violation that, well, you can always leave. That is a confession that the society is, in fact, unjust." - Tibor Machan
Move- nah... we'll just kick Nazi's like you out of power into prison and get back to being a country to be PROUD of, not ashamed of (since the Gulf Oil War Rerun of Re-run Bush)
To 9:00 post:
You're right.I was typing too fast for my own good, that's $216 Billion
To 9:04 post:
I've criticized Clinton also. He was a draft evader as he fled to Russia. Bush and Alioto,like alot of off-spring of the rich including the Demorats, evaded the draft when they drew a low lottery pick by having their daddys jump them to the head of the Reserves line.
Mr. Hijacked the reason people come to America is because their country of origin is a $hit-hole. They left and came here because they think America is better.
If you think other countries do it better then why don't give it a try somewhere else?
PAX AMERICANA
Predictions: 1) Alitto gets confirmed, even if the Repub have to blow up the Senate (not a bad idea); 2) Iraqi troop withdrawals (some) in '06; a great idea for the troops, also great for the Repubs in the '06 and '08 elections; 3) maybe Hilary runs in '08, and hope that she gets smoked by the Repub candidate (Rudy?); 4) if Hilary runs, do the Dems have a male intern to "take one for the team"? (I mean, Bill had his intern (among others); 5) if there's any justice, the '06 and '08 voting maps will be so red that only an expert with a microscope could find the blue; 6) anyone that really doesn't like living here, feel free to leave...still don't see a huge out migration...wonder why?
To 2:30 poster:
Be careful, the Pax Americana term was first coined after WW II, I believe, by opponents of American dominance in world affairs. It has only been picked up by neo-conservatives in recent years to promote U.S. interference in the affairs of other countries.
zzzzzzzzz
Just got back from the war demonstration downtown this afternoon. I've never met a scummier, uglier bunch of people in my life than I have at these anti-Bush marches. Glad I'm on the RIGHT!
To:-8:56:25
Yes, that is true though the format you suggest may not be the one they will use. What they are contemplating is replacing the beat meetings with on-line beat meetings. The idea is, and I stress idea, is that when a citizen has a complaint he/she would go online and e-mail the beat team leader with the problem who would then re-assign it to a beat team member for action. This would allow the City to reduce it's overtime costs by not paying Officers who are off duty overtime when they attend the meetings. One of the problems that they are working on is they realize that not everybody has a computer. Do you remember the computer giveaway a few months ago? The reason for that was to encourage those that currently do not own a computer to go out and get one. The feeling was that if Wibur sees Tyrones computer, he will want one too.
I obtained this information from a civilian consultant who is contracted by the department to design the program. I'm not sure if this program will ever be put in place but I can assure you they are trying their best to implement it. I mention this only because I am in a postition to know and want to answer your question with an honest answer nor do I want you to dismiss me as one of those who post answers when they really have no idea what they are talking about. Once again, it may never happen but they are trying. Hope this helps.
Hey 4:50 PM
RE: That scummy, ugly bunch at today's anti-Bush march...
CHEER UP- That just means MORE BUSH for YOU ! ;-)
PAX AMERICANA
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia.
The term Pax Americana (Latin: "American Peace") denotes the period of relative peace in the Western world since the end of World War II in 1945, coinciding with the dominant military and economic position of the United States. It places the U.S. in the military and diplomatic role of a modern-day Roman Empire or British Empire (based on Pax Romana and Pax Britannica, respectively). During this period, no armed conflict has emerged among major Western nations themselves, and no nuclear weapons have been used, while the United States and its allies have been involved in various regional wars (such as the Korean War and the Vietnam War), and have maintained espionage and covert operations in various other areas.
The term Pax Americana is used by critics of U.S. policy to describe an effort they allege is made by the U.S. to suppress countries that do not cooperate with U.S. policy, but some supporters of American foreign policy also use the term, so it is not necessarily derogatory. For example, it appears repeatedly in a September 2000 document, Rebuilding America's Defenses, by the Project for the New American Century, widely regarded as a neoconservative think tank.
Contents
1 Origins of the peace
2 Pax Americana as Imperialism
Origins of the peace
The Pax Americana derives partly from the direct influence of the United States, but as significantly or more so from international institutions backed by American financing and diplomacy.
Even the so-called unipolar moment following the collapse of the Soviet Union does not compare with the advantageous position of the United States in 1945 with respect to the rest of the industrialized world. It was then responsible for half of global industrial output, held 80 percent of the world's gold reserves, and was the world's sole nuclear power. Already the largest economy in the world, the United States ended World War II with its domestic infrastructure virtually unscathed and its military forces at unprecedented strength. The catastrophic destruction of life, infrastructure, and capital of the Second World War had exhausted the imperialism of the Old World, however, victor and vanquished alike.
The U.S. invested heavily in programs such as the Marshall Plan and in the reconstruction of Japan, economically cementing defense ties that owed increasingly to the fall of the Iron Curtain and widening of the Cold War. The aegis of American backing enabled not only the rapid reindustrialization of Europe and Japan, but allowed nations to experiment with new structures such as the European Coal and Steel Community, further enhancing international cooperation.
But in the best position to take advantage of free trade, culturally indisposed to traditional empires (though not without its own colonial interests), and alarmed by the rise of communism in China and the detonation of the first Soviet atom bomb, the historically isolationist U.S. also took a keen interest in developing multilateral institutions which would maintain a favorable world order among them:
* International Monetary Fund and International Bank for Reconstruction and Development (World Bank), part of the Bretton Woods system of international financial management, including until the early 1970s a fixed exchange rate to the US dollar.
* North Atlantic Treaty Organisation (NATO), a collective security agreement of Atlantic powers, the mutual defense treaties with Japan and South Korea, and to a far lesser extent the Southeast Asia Treaty Organization (SEATO). With the fall of the Iron Curtain and outbreak of the Cold War, the U.S. maintained significant contingents of armed forces in Europe and East Asia.
* General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade (GATT), a protocol for normalization and reduction of trade tariffs.
* United Nations, but most particularly the veto power of permanent members of the UN Security Council.
Some critics maintain that these programs and organizations are in effect instruments of American power or state policy, or are mismanaged and have deleterious effects on certain nations. Others express resentment at their countries' dependence on U.S. military protection, due to disagreements with U.S. policy or the presence of U.S. forces themselves. The ability of the U.S. to act as "the world's policeman" is constrained further by its own citizens' historic aversion to foreign wars. Nevertheless, the institutions behind the Pax Americana have persisted into the early 21st century.
Pax Americana as Imperialism
The long history of U.S. isolationism subsided only after major shocks associated with the Spanish-American War, World War I, and World War II, the Cold War, and various post-Cold War conflicts with non-state actors. There are those who believe that the United States has sought, or has found itself forced into, a quasi-imperialist role by its status as the world's sole superpower. However, the term "isolationist" in this context applies to the global stage; the United States has never been isolationist with respect to the Western Hemisphere, which it has considered to fall within its sphere of influence, and has a long history of military intervention within this region of the world, in the spirit of the Monroe and Truman Doctrines.
The fiercest debates between imperialist and isolationist factions occurred at the end of the 19th century. At that time, the "jingoes", including Theodore Roosevelt, favored U.S. control of Hawaii and the Philippines. Those who favored traditional American policies of avoiding foreign entanglements included Samuel Gompers and Andrew Carnegie. At that time, "imperial" was used as a positive term by jingoes and as a negative term by opponents. When Theodore Roosevelt became president following the assassination of William McKinley in 1900, U.S. foreign policy began to undergo its first major shift away from isolationism towards a policy of foreign intervention.
Hey 450pm I thought you were talkin about coppers
BIGGER THAN WATERGATE
By Ted Rall
Tue Nov 1,12:21 PM ET
Bush-Cheney Traitors Deserve Prison, Impeachment
URBANA, ILLINOIS--To weigh the outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame against historical standards, consider that no leader of the Soviet Union--including that master of ruthlessness, Josef Stalin--ever arranged for the name of a KGB operative to appear in a newspaper. Adolf Hitler had countless millions murdered, yet getting at a political enemy by endangering agents of the Sicherheitsdienst, the Nazi intelligence service, didn't cross his mind. In this respect, not even the worst tyrants have stooped to the level of George W. Bush.
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"One can believe that the neocons are utterly wrong without also assuming that they are evil," Nicholas Kristof argues in a Times op-ed. But people willing to lie their country into war and stab the people who protect it in the back--if we're to believe them, by not bothering to check Plame's status--are evil.
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Here's your Kristof again! Apologist for the Right-wing. I thought the media was supposed to be LIBERAL. If that was true, they would have fired him by now.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ucru/20051101/cm_ucru/biggerthanwatergate
Breaking News - Dems Shut Down Senate
http://www.seeingtheforest.com/archives/2005/11/breaking_news_d.htm
The Democrats have shut down the Senate, demanding to know what happened to the promise to investigate how intelligence was used or misused leading up to the Iraq war. Turn on your TV.
Posted Nov 1, 2005 01:28 PM PST
Category: CURRENT EVENTS
The closed session ended and it looks like little was accomplished other than to rattle the GOP cage. I note that GOP shills are currently all over the airwaves assuring us how silly it is to think that the government intentionally lied to the people to trick us into a war.
Which means they are scared. So now is the time to push. Write the media and tell them you already KNOW about the Forged Niger Documents behind the Plame scandal, and how those forged documents are part of the greatest lie ever told in our nation's history.
NOW is the time to push and push hard.
Bush 2's numbers are actually down again.
He hit a recent high of 45% (you're proud of that, right?) on 31 OCT.
But, now he slid back downward to 43%.
Only 33% give the President good or excellent ratings for his handling of the situation in Iraq.
I would hardly say it's going well there.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/Bush_Job_Approval.htm
about them:
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Rasmussen Reports is an electronic publishing firm specializing in the collection, publication, and distribution of public opinion polling information.
Rasmussen Reports was the nation's most accurate polling firm during the 2004 Presidential election and the only one to project both Bush and Kerry's vote total within half a percentage point of the actual outcome.
During Election 2004, RasmussenReports.com was also the top-ranked public opinion research site on the web. We had twice as many visitors as our nearest competitor and nearly as many as all competitors combined.
Scott Rasmussen, president of Rasmussen Reports, has been an independent pollster for more than a decade.
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they only poll democrats
If the truth comes out about the collaboration between Cheney,Libby,and Rove about the CIA leak,Not one of them will do a day in jail or face conviction.If by some miracle any of them are indicted,tried,and convicted It will simply be overturned by their freinds on the Supreme Court.The same court that handed Dubya the first Presidential election on a silver platter.I must admit I grudgingly admire the stategy of Cheney,Rove,and the powers that be in the Republican Party.While America at large has been distracted by the occupation of Iraq,Sept 11th,and The infiltration of our southern borders by hordes of Mexican immigrants,The Republicans have been loading the Federal courts with "Stepford Judges" that will rule in their favor under any and all circumstances.They are only one nominee away from total domination of the Federal court system.They know eventually that a ton of bricks will collectvely fall on the heads of the American people and they will realize they've been duped.But by then it will be too late.When their pensions and social security funds have been looted,Corporations have "Eminent Domain" over their real estate holdings,When energy prices are so expensive people will have to decide between food or warmth,When the bankers and credit card companies change the rules of doing bussiness at will while they rob us blind,When all the labor unions are castrated or eliminated and workers have no voice while their pay and benefits erode,When quality healthcare is something only the rich can afford,When thre is no more"middle class",and when are civil liberties/rights are suspended in the intrest of"national security",It will all be done with the blessing of the federal courts.Now a lot of people are probably thinking another Democrat.Nothing could be farther from the truth I despise The Democrats even more than the Republicans.At least the GOP has the will to accomplish their agenda corrupt though it may be.Democrats are spineless and reactionary.They are unable or unwilling to fight fire with fire.That's why they'll never beat the GOP.Until a strong Third Party emerges in this country,The common man is doomed.
3:31 am, 3:37 am, and 3:55 am are probably the same person posting.
Here's your Bush 2:
Bush's Increasing Mental Lapses and Temper Tantrums Worry White House Aides
By DOUG THOMPSON
Nov 2, 2005, 05:26
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An uncivil war rages inside the walls of the West Wing of the White House, a bitter, acrimonious war driven by a failed agenda, destroyed credibility, dwindling public support and a President who lapses into Alzheimer-like periods of incoherent babbling.
On one side are the dwindling numbers of die-hard loyalists to President George W. Bush, those who support his actions and decisions without question and remain committed to both Bush and scandal-scarred political advisor Karl Rove.
On the other side are the increasing numbers of those who say Rove must go and who worry about the President's declining mental state and his ability to restore credibility with Congress, our foreign allies and the American people.
The war erupted into full-blown shout fests at Camp David this past weekend where decorum broke down in staff meetings and longtime aides threatened to quit unless Rove goes. Insiders say Chief of Staff Andrew Card now leads the anti-Rove legions and has told Bush that he wants out of the high-pressure job.
White House staff members say the White House is “like a wartime bunker” where shell-shocked aides hide from those who disagree with their actions and office pools speculate on how long certain senior aides will last.
Bush, whose obscenity-laced temper tantrums increase with each new setback and scandal, abruptly ended one Camp David meeting by telling everyone in the room to “go fuck yourselves” before he stalked out of the room.
Senior aides describe Bush as increasingly “edgy” or “nervous” or “unfocused.” They say the President goes from apparent coherent thought one moment to aimless rambles about political enemies and those who are “out to get me.”
“It’s worse than the days when Ronald Reagan’s Alzheimer’s began setting in,” one longtime GOP operative told me privately this week. “You don’t know if he’s going to be coherent from one moment to the next. What scares me is if he lapses into one of those fogs during a public appearance.”
Aides say Bush, who has always had trouble focusing during times of stress, is increasingly distant during meetings, often staring off into space during discussions on the nation’s security and other issues.
Card has responded to the crisis by cutting back on the number of staff members with direct access to the President and jumping in to answer questions when Bush’s mind wanders.
“Some people say Karl Rove is ‘Bush’s brain,’” says one increasingly-concerned West Winger. “Well Andy has become the President’s voice. He’s there to speak when the President seems unable to find form an answer.”
Bush’s mental state is a hot topic on Internet blogs and has increased since this web site disclosed last year that the White House physician had placed the President on anti-depressant medication – a story the administration never denied. Others, including prominent psychiatrists like Dr. Justin Frank of George Washington University, wonder if Bush, an admitted heavy drinker who claims he quit without any professional help, is hitting the bottle again.
An increasing number of mainstream media outlets, including Newsweek, The Washington Post and the New York Daily News recently confirmed our earlier reports about Bush’s temper tantrums.
“Bush usually reserves his celebrated temper for senior aides because he knows they can take it,” the Daily News reported. “Lately, however, some junior staffers also have faced the boss’s wrath.”
“This is not some manager at McDonald’s chewing out the help," a source with close ties to the White House told the paper. “This is the president of the United States, and it’s not a pleasant sight.”
Bush loyalists claim the President can survive his current spate of political troubles and emerge stronger than ever but an increasing number of White House aides express increasing doubt. Some even go so far as to speculate if the President’s deteriorating mental condition can survive another three years in office.
“The President has lost his focus, his ability to govern and the trust of the American people,” says one longtime GOP operative. “Those are things that are difficult to recapture when you’re on top of your game and this President has taken one too many blows to the head.”
© Copyright 2005 by Capitol Hill Blue
For those of you who read the ANONYMOUS post of 11/3 at 3:31:08 AM. Writer and cartoonist TED RALL makes Michael Moore come across as a patriot. RALL was the relatively obscure cartoonist who depicted the late PAT TILLMAN, U.S. Army Ranger and ex-NFL Arizona Cardinal defensive back as an "IDIOT". Pat, a genuine American hero, was killed in action in Afghanistan. TED RALL and "anonymous" poster: FUCK YOU!
GOP Leaders to Bush: 'Your Presidency is Effectively Over'
By DOUG THOMPSON
Nov 4, 2005, 08:13
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A growing number of Republican leaders, party strategists and political professional now privately tell President George W. Bush that his presidency "is effectively over" unless he fires embattled White House advisor Karl Rove, apologizes to the American people for misleading the country into war and revamps his administration from top to bottom.
"The only show of unity we have now in the Republican Party is the belief that the President has failed the party, the American people and the presidency," says a longtime, and angry, GOP strategist.
With the public face of support for Bush eroding daily from even diehard Republicans, the President faces mounting anger from within his party over the path that may well lead to loss of control of Congress in the 2006 midterm elections and the White House in 2008.
"This presidency is in trouble," says a senior White House aide. "Even worse, I don't know if there is a way out of the trouble."
Congressional leaders journeyed to the White House before Bush left on his South American tour this week to tell the President that his legislative agenda on the Hill is dead, his latest Supreme Court nominee faces a tough confirmation fight in the Senate and he is facing open revolt within party ranks.
"The Speaker is having an increasingly difficult time holding his troops in line," says a source within the office of House Speaker Dennis J. Hastert. "Anger at the President grows exponentially with each passing day."
At a recent White House strategy session, internal party pollsters told the President that his approval rating with Americans continues to slide and may be irreversible, citing his failed Iraq war, the failed Supreme Court nomination of Harriet Miers and his failure to deal decisively on a number of fronts, including Hurricane Katrina, the economy and the Valerie Plame scandal.
In meetings, leaders and strategists have suggested a number of things that Bush must do to try and save his presidency and GOP prospects in upcoming elections, including:
Apologize to the American people, Congress and our allies for misleading them on the reasons for invading Iraq;
Revamp the White House staff from top to bottom;
Fire Rove.
"We keep coming back to Rove," says a GOP pollster. "He has escaped indictment, so far, but the feeling within the party is that another shoe is ready to drop and the longer he waits to jettison Rove the greater the damage. As long as Karl Rove remains at the President's side, the Bush presidency is effectively over and he is just riding out the days until the nation elects a Democrat to replace him. Even with Rove gone the damage may be irreparable."
Bush, however, has dug his heels in on Rove. When a GOP strategist suggested last weekend that the President fire Rove, Bush exploded.
"You go to hell," he screamed at the strategist. "You can leave and you can take the rest of these lily-livered motherfuckers with you!" The President then stormed out of the room and refused to meet further with any other party leaders or strategists.
Bush's escalating temper tantrums and his intransigence on political issues increase Republican worries about the long term effects on both his presidency and the party's prospects in upcoming elections.
"Right now, George W. Bush is the Republican Party's chief liability," says a GOP strategist who has advised Presidential campaigns for 30 years. "The entire political future of the party and perhaps the nation now rests on the shoulders of a President that no one - Democrat or Republican - believes in or trusts."
© Copyright 2005 by Capitol Hill Blue
CBS Poll:
Polling Data
Do you think the result of the war with Iraq was worth the loss of American life and other costs of attacking Iraq, or not?
Nov. 2005
Oct. 2005
Sept. 2005
Worth it
31%
32%
33%
Not worth it
64%
64%
61%
Don’t know
5%
5%
6%
Should the United States troops stay in Iraq as long as it takes to make sure Iraq is a stable democracy, even if it takes a long time, or should U.S. troops leave Iraq as soon as possible, even if Iraq is not completely stable?
Nov. 2005
Oct. 2005
Stay as long as it takes
43%
36%
Leave as soon as possible
50%
59%
Don’t know / No answer
7%
5%
Do you approve or disapprove of the way George W. Bush is handling the situation with Iraq?
Nov. 2005
Oct. 2005
Sept. 2005
Approve
32%
32%
36%
Disapprove
62%
64%
59%
No opinion
6%
4%
5%
Source: CBS News
Methodology: Telephone interviews with 936 American adults, conducted from Oct. 30 to Nov. 1, 2005. Margin of error is 3 per cent.
Other poll highlights: 57 per cent say things going badly for U.S. in Iraq, 48 per cent say Iraq will never become a democracy, 38 per cent say the Bush administration hid "important elements" when discussing the existence of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.
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