It would include the merit and people off the list, but it is not offered to anyone who is already a detective. It is offered to those who are only trained as youth officers though (all new detectives are cross-trained as youth officers, there are some guys/girls that are only youth trained left). So, we may not actually know and how many are not on the list.
"Investigative familiarity"?... what??? 90 (?) days watching detectives work is going to improve the skills of those who had never worked in the D? I would like to hear from those detectives who also monitor this blog to weigh in on what it really takes to "make" an experienced detective....
Don't forget that this list doen't include incumbent detectives and those in the "D" unit that were submitted for "meritorious" consideration...
I'm in a "D" unit and the 90 days is a waste, if we get 10 officers, 1 maybe 2 are actually interested and want to do stuff.. The others are trying to figure when they can duck...
Here's one to piss off the PO's living in the lovely 016th Dist... SOS Team did a search warrant up north (Touhy/Oriole area I believe) adn make a substantial recovery of powder cocaine and marijuana, plus two unregistered shot guns.... Commander of SOS is overheard in conversation with Cline and getting a bit of an ass chewing because "Doind search warrants in the 016th District is not part of this departments mission or focus. We have other areas to worry about, bringing down homicides for instance."
So, let me get this right Sup't....Providing police service or acting upon a tip from a credibile CI no matter where in the city it is, isn't our mission. I'll bet you that if the info was on the west end of 008 there would be no problem, but because it didn't happen in the precious DOC area or Englewood it isn't important...
When are we going to satnd up for ourselves and demand that our families our protected the way they should be while we are working? Sending officers from 016 to other districts because of their crime level is BS. I will admit that unfortunately a majority of officers in 016 are useless, but as it has been said before that is everywhere... However, why should they have their assist units, back-up and fellow officers sent all over the city when they are needed in our backyard... I can't believe that I'm even suggesting this, but all the PO's that live in 016 should flood their beat meetings and demand that the Commander and Deputy Chief attend and start making their life miserable until they realize we are not going to accept this practice any more
Read it on ths open thread but I felt it was worth repeating
to: 03:01.....read your post on another post; shocked, but not surprised...my suggestion to any of the cops..do your job, enforce the law, wherever it takes you... ignore downtown's directives regarding deployment levels, etc.... political priorities are not the same as protecting and serving ALL of the citizens...
I knew the Det. haters would show up sooner or later. Hating all Det's makes as much sense as me hating all P.O.'s because of guys like Roman in 010. Takes his own handwritten statement from a homicide witness that names the offender. Than he inventories it and sends it off to ERPS. Turns out the witness is only mad at her boyfriend/offender for getting up on another female. The guy has nothing to do with it. Case is fucked. Ha! Ha! So much for 20 years on the job. I could follow your lead and decide all P.O.'s are idiots. However, I know better; much better
To 5:13---Roman is in fact a piece of shit--but if you really knew him, you would know that he would never do anything like that on his own cuzz it would involve some degree of work. He did it because a lame ass Sgt from 010 told him to.
Ex-cop gets 18 years in pusher shakedowns Ex-sergeant tells court, 'I am guilty'
By Michael Higgins Tribune staff reporter Published November 2, 2005
A former Chicago police sergeant was sentenced Tuesday to 18 years in prison for violently shaking down drug dealers for cash and narcotics during a six-year period in the mid-1990s.
Larry Hargrove, 62, of Henderson, Nev., had fought the charges against him through two jury trials. His first trial ended in a hung jury. But at his sentencing hearing, Hargrove admitted his role in the scheme.
"I take full responsibility for everything that's in the indictment," said Hargrove, his voice choked with emotion. "And what I would like to say is, `I am guilty.' ... I'm sorry I hurt my family and my friends."
Federal prosecutors asked U.S. District Judge Wayne Andersen to impose a sentence of more than 22 years. Assistant U.S. Atty. Morris Pasqual argued that Hargrove and his co-defendants had committed dozens of robberies and acts of extortion, as well as selling stolen narcotics to drug dealers, who then put the drugs back out on the street.
The betrayal of the public trust was "absolutely stunning," Pasqual said. "To say [Hargrove's conduct] promotes disrespect for the law ... doesn't even begin to touch it."
Andersen said that while the crime was extremely serious, he did not want to give Hargrove what at his age probably would be a life sentence.
With the 18-year sentence, the judge told the defendant, "I think there's a pretty good chance you'll be a free person someday."
A federal jury found Hargrove, a 32-year police veteran, guilty June 22 after hearing testimony from two members of his crew who previously pleaded guilty to the scheme. The alleged ringleader, former Chicago police Sgt. Eddie Hicks, fled in 2003 and remains a fugitive.
Using forged warrants, Hargrove and his crew members would storm into drug dealers' homes with their guns drawn and take what they found, prosecutors said.
The raids occurred from 1993 to 1999, when Alsip police were called by a drug dealer's girlfriend, triggering an internal investigation by Chicago police, together with the FBI.
Hargrove's attorney, Robert Clarke, argued Tuesday that his client had been a good officer for many years, but that it was easy for police to grow cynical when "there is a sea of drugs out there ... an ocean" that never seems to dry up.
But Pasqual suggested another reason for the crimes.
"They were emboldened by the nature of the victims, because they knew the [drug dealers] would not come forward," Pasqual told the judge. "They thought they were committing the perfect crime."
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Is that 71 off the list or does it include the merits? Is the list finished or will another class be made?
It would include the merit and people off the list, but it is not offered to anyone who is already a detective. It is offered to those who are only trained as youth officers though (all new detectives are cross-trained as youth officers, there are some guys/girls that are only youth trained left). So, we may not actually know and how many are not on the list.
class is still looking like 100 or better
To Scc: Please publish looking for some good guys to make it; curious
I'd say 95-100.
The fire union publishes firefighters who make rank on their website. Why can't the FOP?
Since its that time of year again, anyone have any funny uniform inspection stories?
"Investigative familiarity"?... what??? 90 (?) days watching detectives work is going to improve the skills of those who had never worked in the D? I would like to hear from those detectives who also monitor this blog to weigh in on what it really takes to "make" an experienced detective....
Don't forget that this list doen't include incumbent detectives and those in the "D" unit that were submitted for "meritorious" consideration...
I'm in a "D" unit and the 90 days is a waste, if we get 10 officers, 1 maybe 2 are actually interested and want to do stuff.. The others are trying to figure when they can duck...
any one have any clue when they'll make detectives ?
to: 02:26......thanks....nice to hear from someone who knows what's going on....who actually says it like it is....
Here's one to piss off the PO's living in the lovely 016th Dist... SOS Team did a search warrant up north (Touhy/Oriole area I believe) adn make a substantial recovery of powder cocaine and marijuana, plus two unregistered shot guns.... Commander of SOS is overheard in conversation with Cline and getting a bit of an ass chewing because "Doind search warrants in the 016th District is not part of this departments mission or focus. We have other areas to worry about, bringing down homicides for instance."
So, let me get this right Sup't....Providing police service or acting upon a tip from a credibile CI no matter where in the city it is, isn't our mission. I'll bet you that if the info was on the west end of 008 there would be no problem, but because it didn't happen in the precious DOC area or Englewood it isn't important...
When are we going to satnd up for ourselves and demand that our families our protected the way they should be while we are working? Sending officers from 016 to other districts because of their crime level is BS. I will admit that unfortunately a majority of officers in 016 are useless, but as it has been said before that is everywhere... However, why should they have their assist units, back-up and fellow officers sent all over the city when they are needed in our backyard... I can't believe that I'm even suggesting this, but all the PO's that live in 016 should flood their beat meetings and demand that the Commander and Deputy Chief attend and start making their life miserable until they realize we are not going to accept this practice any more
Read it on ths open thread but I felt it was worth repeating
to: 03:01.....read your post on another post; shocked, but not surprised...my suggestion to any of the cops..do your job, enforce the law, wherever it takes you... ignore downtown's directives regarding deployment levels, etc.... political priorities are not the same as protecting and serving ALL of the citizens...
So who are the Merit Sgts on this list? Since the city won't post them...even though they are the elite...we should do it for them...for free!!
POST AWAY!!
And include the merit picks from the last group also!!
Any info on how high on the list they went? Perhaps some people on the list (non-merit) would post their original scores.
Original scores of 135 and 134 taken at least. Don't know if it goes as far as 133 or lower.
I believe they went as far as 303 on the list, maybe higher.
good dick
suspect EVERYONE
and check out each detail for yourself and the double check that
and stiull have time for a 2 hr dinner break
To 4:52,
You have really mastered the English language. Keep it up!!!! Your one that probably believes that you were jipped by not making Sgt.
I got an idea - post the fucking list here!
11/02/2005 04:52:44 PM
I knew the Det. haters would show up sooner or later. Hating all Det's makes as much sense as me hating all P.O.'s because of guys like Roman in 010. Takes his own handwritten statement from a homicide witness that names the offender. Than he inventories it and sends it off to ERPS. Turns out the witness is only mad at her boyfriend/offender for getting up on another female. The guy has nothing to do with it. Case is fucked. Ha! Ha! So much for 20 years on the job. I could follow your lead and decide all P.O.'s are idiots. However, I know better; much better
Post the list already. What are we waiting for if it is out.
Did you see the list? Few of the P.O's on the list are A-holes. Would not want to work for them.
I'm shocked that fill kline would do such a thing.
I think they went to #320. According to the union.
to 4 59
iamam a sgt alrdie
To 5:13---Roman is in fact a piece of shit--but if you really knew him, you would know that he would never do anything like that on his own cuzz it would involve some degree of work. He did it because a lame ass Sgt from 010 told him to.
That was my only interaction with Roman. It was enough. Unfortunately I have to look at his asswipe son on a daily basis.
To 3:01 Thanks for posting story what other thread was it on? Do tell!
9:13
it was on thee open thread from " soth side detective". to 5:13 and 8:55, get over it Ache.
Ex-cop gets 18 years in pusher shakedowns
Ex-sergeant tells court, 'I am guilty'
By Michael Higgins
Tribune staff reporter
Published November 2, 2005
A former Chicago police sergeant was sentenced Tuesday to 18 years in prison for violently shaking down drug dealers for cash and narcotics during a six-year period in the mid-1990s.
Larry Hargrove, 62, of Henderson, Nev., had fought the charges against him through two jury trials. His first trial ended in a hung jury. But at his sentencing hearing, Hargrove admitted his role in the scheme.
"I take full responsibility for everything that's in the indictment," said Hargrove, his voice choked with emotion. "And what I would like to say is, `I am guilty.' ... I'm sorry I hurt my family and my friends."
Federal prosecutors asked U.S. District Judge Wayne Andersen to impose a sentence of more than 22 years. Assistant U.S. Atty. Morris Pasqual argued that Hargrove and his co-defendants had committed dozens of robberies and acts of extortion, as well as selling stolen narcotics to drug dealers, who then put the drugs back out on the street.
The betrayal of the public trust was "absolutely stunning," Pasqual said. "To say [Hargrove's conduct] promotes disrespect for the law ... doesn't even begin to touch it."
Andersen said that while the crime was extremely serious, he did not want to give Hargrove what at his age probably would be a life sentence.
With the 18-year sentence, the judge told the defendant, "I think there's a pretty good chance you'll be a free person someday."
A federal jury found Hargrove, a 32-year police veteran, guilty June 22 after hearing testimony from two members of his crew who previously pleaded guilty to the scheme. The alleged ringleader, former Chicago police Sgt. Eddie Hicks, fled in 2003 and remains a fugitive.
Using forged warrants, Hargrove and his crew members would storm into drug dealers' homes with their guns drawn and take what they found, prosecutors said.
The raids occurred from 1993 to 1999, when Alsip police were called by a drug dealer's girlfriend, triggering an internal investigation by Chicago police, together with the FBI.
Hargrove's attorney, Robert Clarke, argued Tuesday that his client had been a good officer for many years, but that it was easy for police to grow cynical when "there is a sea of drugs out there ... an ocean" that never seems to dry up.
But Pasqual suggested another reason for the crimes.
"They were emboldened by the nature of the victims, because they knew the [drug dealers] would not come forward," Pasqual told the judge. "They thought they were committing the perfect crime."
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mjhiggins@tribune.com
It's all on da legit! I swear.
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