Fred Hampton Avenue
If we had known that the Slum Times was going to run this story on page 1 today, we would have posted something about it early. As it was, just about everyone covered it - Tribune; Channel 5; Channel 7. Our feeling are as follows:
Fred Hampton was a gang banging scum bag. Any good he might have performed was merely a cover for other unlawful activity. He was merely a darker version of Al Capone, who used to run soup kitchens for the poor and indigent during the Depression while killing and maiming his way to power in the bootlegging industry. Or a precursor to Gator Bradley who purports to register voters and support jobs programs while attempting to consolidate holds on west side drug markets. That being said, if some insignificant scumbag supporting aldercreature wants to name a street after someone who did far more harm to their community than any imagined good, far be it from us interfere with the democratic process.
HOWEVER, we would propose the following resolution (and anyone who wants to steal this idea, aldercreature, superintendent, reporter or FOP president, have at it). How about we rename the 0-100 block (or longer blocks) of Oakley the Honorary Cook County State's Attorney Edward V. Hanrahan Avenue? After all, Mr. Hanrahan honorably served the people of Chicago and Cook County for many years, prosecuting cases and imprisoning many dangerous individuals. He lived a full life and had many hundreds of friends. We mean, if we're only focusing on the "good" that the scumbag Hampton did, we can surely focus on the good that a State's Attorney did during his long and illustrious career.
And as someone said a few months ago, an indictment is not a conviction.
Fred Hampton was a gang banging scum bag. Any good he might have performed was merely a cover for other unlawful activity. He was merely a darker version of Al Capone, who used to run soup kitchens for the poor and indigent during the Depression while killing and maiming his way to power in the bootlegging industry. Or a precursor to Gator Bradley who purports to register voters and support jobs programs while attempting to consolidate holds on west side drug markets. That being said, if some insignificant scumbag supporting aldercreature wants to name a street after someone who did far more harm to their community than any imagined good, far be it from us interfere with the democratic process.
HOWEVER, we would propose the following resolution (and anyone who wants to steal this idea, aldercreature, superintendent, reporter or FOP president, have at it). How about we rename the 0-100 block (or longer blocks) of Oakley the Honorary Cook County State's Attorney Edward V. Hanrahan Avenue? After all, Mr. Hanrahan honorably served the people of Chicago and Cook County for many years, prosecuting cases and imprisoning many dangerous individuals. He lived a full life and had many hundreds of friends. We mean, if we're only focusing on the "good" that the scumbag Hampton did, we can surely focus on the good that a State's Attorney did during his long and illustrious career.
And as someone said a few months ago, an indictment is not a conviction.
posted by SCC at 5:03 PM
70 Comments:
I'm first !!! Remember the alderwoman who proposed this. Let's glorify street thugs maam...nice works. Who's the real piece of shit here???...her!!!
I work in 012 - put the sign up and I will bet it will be torn down the same day! Who in their right mind glorifies cop haters/killers!! Vote that alderperson out!
What a ghetto this city is and what a little asshole Richie is!
In a training class I attended a few years ago, a Federal Agent showed the class a haunting photo. Wallace Gator Bradley, Rev. Jessie and President Slick Willie Blue Balls, embracing in the middle of the Oval Office. I instantly had a revelation. I knew I had cast my last Democratic vote and the internal debate was no more.
HI SCC, I posted the link however it would not allow me to use HTML. Could you please tell me hwo to properly link url's? thanx
What's next? John Wayne Gacy Lane? How about we start naming streets after illegal drugs? I now live on Cocaine Blvd.
Unbelievable...
this is such an outrage it makes me want to vomit... being a 20 year veteran police officer i must say that this proposal to name a city street after a murderous gang leader leaves me dumbfounded.
black panthers = sophisticated street gang
el rukns = sophisticated street gang
gangster disciples = same
next some wise alderman will ask that a street be named after...
willie lloyd
wallace bradley
jeff fort
richard speck
(fill in the blank)
and a host of notorious crime lords and scumbags.
the honor of having a street named after you should be reserved for individuals that have contributed to society not the wolf in sheeps clothing.
... amd now i hear that race baiting cut up bobby rush advocating violence against the police, some things never change is right, mans inhumanity to man rolls on and on and on.
oh and to bobby rush did you ever thank all the police officers and detectives that worked tiredlessly to find the shitbags that killed your son? well did you? DID YOU!!!
i think i already know the answer to that...
and haithcock and meeks wherever you are fuck you too.
How about naming some steets and schools after cop killers.
George C Knights Junior College or perhaps the Johnny Veal Sniper Expressway. Perhaps the city can begin merchandising products with their names so they can get some extras while they rot in prison.
First Gary, Ind. Then Detroit, Mich. Now Chicago (Chigetto)...
I can't post to the pension thread. Why?
I was there that night working 003 on the first watch. I'll never forget it. Five other officers were shot but lived.
Unlike his old man, if Daley doesn't speak up against the Black Panther Party, he is a sniveling coward who should rot in Hell with Hampton, Clark and the Panther cop-killer who murdered two of Chicago's Finest at 58th & Calumet in 002 just days before the Monroe St. raid. Daley's old man is looking down on his no-balls son.
In effect, a silent Daley will be taking a dump on the honored stars of two courageous fallen heroes:
R.I.P. Officers Frank Rappaport and John Gilhooly.
Haithcock and the once BPP "minister of defense" just couldn't leave sleeping dogs lie. They just had to rub our noses in it. Wave the red flag in the face of a sleeping giant.
East 58th St. will be renamed GILHOOLY St.
East 59th St. will be renamed RAPPAPORT St.
Not good enough, guy. Rappaport died chasing down Gilhooly's killer across King Drive from Washington Park. Rename Washington Park to Gilhooly-Rappaport Park.
well, if they want to name streets after cop killers, how about voters being able to name streets about how they feel about our politicians?????????????????
I have plenty of suggestions...
Guys, go to the FOP website and Look to the left under "Contact Us". There you will find the email addy's for the FOP bosses.
Please write thema quick email of encouragment in their fight against this honorary street name. Give them that push to show them that we are behind them in their efforts!
We want to hear from Richard M. Daley and Philip J. Cline.
Have they no courage or shame?
You can also send an email to the aldermoron and let her know how you feel.
>>>>mhaithcock@cityofchicago.org
My take on this madness:
http://crimefilenews.blogspot.com/2006/02/naming-chicago-street-after-black.html
ANDY DAKURAS IS A BONER
I SAW SEISER OVER ON KEELER AND DIVISION! HIM AND JOE CASSIDY WERE BREAK DANCING ON SOME CARDBOARD OUT ON THE SIDEWALK. AFTERWARDS SEISER ATE 30 BAGS OF CHEETOS WITH HOT SAUCE. SEISER IS COMING BACK TO 3RD WATCH IN 025 ,AND WHEN HE DOES THE HEAVENS WILL TREMBLE!
Guys, below is the link to the City of Chicago, Ward List. Click on your Ward and they will have an email addy for that office. Write them an email and a snail mail letter telling them how you feel.
Ward List
7:02 PM
A lot of coppers are really pissed off and you're talking about some guy
named Dakuras.
For the love of God, Gilhooley and Rappaport, show RESPECT, you blathering idiot.
Then again, perhaps you are Haithcock or Rush, trying to throw a red herring over a very VOLATILE subject.
7:06 PM
Working 2572, Joe Cassidy and Marv, along with Greg Hauser and Ray Kilroy were my best guys in 025. If Joe or Mike Seiser knew that you just interrupted this thread with your inane bullshit, I promise you that Joe would kick your bloody ass across Division St. into Fillmore.
It's called RESPECT!!!
Retired Wagon 2572 (Joe & Marv): If you read this, drop me an eMail at:
cpdfop7@yahoo.com
Hope all is well. Love you guys!
Sorry. Back to the subject at hand.
23rd ward Michael Zalewski
773-582-4444
19th ward Ginger Rugai
773-238-8766
36th ward William Banks
773 622-3232
38th ward Thomas Allen
773 545-3838
41st ward Brian Doherty
773 792-1991
45th ward Patrick Levar
773 545-2545
50th ward Bernard Stone
773 764-5050
These predominately are the wards we live in and the alderman who should be looking out for us. I am admittedly ignorant w/ more of the south and east neighborhoods so please add those to the list. I added Stone because he took our side in this debate and bashed the idea.
Crimefile gave them Hell for this on his blog!
I would like to name my street "John Burge Way" However, my husband prefers we build a new wing on the Cook County Jail and name it the John Burge Memorial Wing. What the heck Richie said on TV tonite, "Well, any one can name a street" So my take is if the city is willing to spend money on a "Honorable Street Sign" for a cop hater, then surely they can spend money on streets named after cops.
I remember Fred H. Had a detail in the 12th Dist. outside that wonderful place of execution for that no good piece of shit.
Also understand there is another Meeks loose in Chicago land. Wonder if his ole man was Russel Meeks in the old Filmore dist. complete asshole!
I don't want to imflame you all because I'm not a cop, and am white, and fully support you.
But ignorant and do not know much about the Black Panthers.
I did a search and an encylopedia article stated that the FBI started COINTelPro, that stated the Blank Panthers were actual threatening the security of the country with their radical style. It also stated the FBI instigated tensions between them and a gang.
It also went on to say that law enforcement unfairly targeted them because of what they were trying to do and because they were so radical.
Why does it say that one of the Black Panthers was killed and he wasn't armed and was killed in his own bed while sleeping?
Once again, I don't mean to upset anyone but have these questions.
Frankly, you miss the whole point when you prefaced your statement with "I..am white".
If you indeed researched this incident, you will learn that one round of gunfire emanated from the Panther flat. Considering the BPP history of hatred and murder versus police throughout the nation, the idea of the CPD returning ten, twenty or a hundred rounds is irrelevant.
Furthermore, I have identified you as the TROLL that you are and I suggest that none of my colleagues take your bait.
Have a nice day!
The local news media monitors this site. Don't underestimate the treachery of the "politically correct", lying bastards.
Unless and until proven otherwise, beware of TROLLS!
I've a rather warped yet effective way of showing our displeasure over this latest fiasco put upon us by the ever-dimwitted Bobby Rush.
We need to have a "pissing contest" with him. I mean this in the literal sense.
What would prevent some of us from visiting the gravesites of of his BP bretheren and, well you know, relieving ourselves on their graves? We could even invite Mr. Rush himself to witness this.
Any takers?
I'll even by the first keg.
Negative.
Save your next idea, aka "Plan B" until you're sober, guy.
Even better. Pics of Bobby and Madeline Hatescops pictures dropped into urinals/toilets in each and every city building. Show them you care.
I'm curious. Isn't that block now occupied by new condos and their yuppie tenants? What would they think of this?
Incredible. Your NYPD brothers and sisters are with you guys.
brother and sister officers i am appealing to all of you that visit this blog to reach out to all of your fellow officers and all of your family to counter this movement by the BPP to enshrine this shitbag by naming a street after him, we must show up at our aldermans offices, city council meetings and city hall and light a fire under these dopes that this will not be tolerated, i am willing to meet with representatives of the FOP & PBPA to organize this plan to put and end to this plan to immortalize a low life like fred hampton and vote these anti-police politcians out of office.
because my fellow bloggers this needs our unified force to put a dagger in this movement to weaken our police force and glorify gang members.
i adovcate that streets be named after police officers that gave their life for this city, not for some creep that wanted to burn it all down.
Thank you NYPD! We are freakin sure you have the same kinda bullshit where you at. Be safe!
As for fred hampton FUCK YOU and your family! I resolve his name not be used with capital letters again on this blog ever. Show him the respect he deserves. Not one fucking bit!
This is an election ploy. If Richie or Phil take the bait then drive a wedge into certain proportion of the black voting block. This is what Rush & Jackson Jr. want. Then it becomes an incident and you have another race card in the upcoming election. If Richie doesn't take the bait then it becomes a non-issue for blacks and Jesse Jr. looks for another issue to push. No one has any respect for the police as a voting block.
Congratulations Brothers and Sisters.."ON THE JOB"
This is the first blog site topic that I actually could read where [with the exception of a few regulars] we actually stayed on target. Did it take that Alderperson to bring up THIS topic to get us to band together for a common cause? Thanks to all those that addressed THIS topic...it needed our imput. Now please, instead of bashing one another, [ie this unit, that pinch, this district, that boss etc] kindly coordinate our efforts [THE THIN BLUE LINE] for OUR common cause. By the way...please recognize and support ALL our REAL HERO'S during MAY whether it be the ST Jude Parade, CPD Memorial [following Monday] Springfield, or DC [May 13,14,15] to honor those that made the "Ultimate Sacrifice". Read this blog, enjoy this blog and NEVER forget our commitment to back up one another. Thanks NORTHSIDE for adding some occasional sanity to this site. Lastly, say you peace and THINK before you post. We'll all be better off. Amen-19Paul
Mr Webester says TERRORISM:(n) The unlawful use ore threatened use of force or violence to intimidate or coerce societies or governments, often used for ideological or political reasons.
Ok, Osama and the rest of his ilk need to burn slowly in hell. However, looking at this definition, who else thinks "chairman fred" needs to be lumped into this category? Gator, Fort, and the list goes on, and on, and on... Wait a second... wasn’t there a Jackson and a Rush in that mix back then??? However, we have this Alder-fuck wanting to immortalize this piece of shit by naming a street after him? "But he was a hero..." WHHHAAAA? That poor guy who had to live near him, who worked every day, got shit on because he was black, in a time of racial unrest, yet did his best to support his family and raise them the right way, that guy's pubic hair is more of a Hero than hampton ever will be! Want to name something after hampton or any other of those gang-banger/terrorists? OK. how about the urinal at Pacific Garden, which should also include a picture for better "aim"! That’s right fred, you get what you deserve, every bust out bum taking a leak in your open mouth, too bad you are dead!
Half the people on this job weren't even alive when Fred Hampton ran the Panthers or even when he was killed and the other half don't know anything about what happened other than gossip, whether from whites or blacks. I'm not supporting Hampton or this assinine idea, just saying that no one who has commented so far knows a thing about what happened the night Hampton was killed or even what Hampton did for the community or what he stood for. . . Let's hear some facts instead of rhetoric!!!!!!!!!
Why is it that Blacks can have the name of a radical leader of cop killers honored in any way? Yet Whites cannot have the Stars and Bars of the confederacy displayed in public? It’s getting to the point where Democratic Whitey will do anything not to hurt the views of Blacks, Muslims, Mexicans and so forth and Anglo’s MUST, eat the shit sandwich! WTF! I could see them rioting in the streets if they wanted to name a street after David Duke of KKK fame.
I remember when Ed Hanrahan was running for office back in the day. One of my neighbors was passing out campaign flyers and I swear that one of the slogans he thought of was... "Put Your Hand In The Hand of Hanrahan"
That's some funny shit! :-)
1968
-March: Publication of Eldridge Cleaver's SOUL ON ICE, a collection of essays by the man who was named BPP minister of information.
-April: Black Panther Party opens office in New York City.
-April 6: Bobby Hutton, 17, the first member of BPP and its national treasurer, is killed by Oakland police.
--November 24: Eldridge and Kathleen Cleaver flee US, visit Cuba and Paris, then eventually settle in Algeria.
-January: The first BPP Free Breakfast for School Children Program is initiated at St. Augustine's Church in Oakland.
--April 2: Twenty-one BPP members in New York are arrested on a wide assortment of conspiracy charges.
-May 22: Eight members, including Ericka Huggins, arrested on a variety of conspiracy and murder charges in New Haven, Conn.
-December 4: Illinois Sate BPP leaders Fred Hampton, 21, and Mark Clark, 22, are killed in Chicago by police raiders from the State attorney's office.
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At 21 Fred Hampton was hardly a footnote in history. Same for Mark Clark. If not for the Hanrahan raid, he'd be in prison now and likely never heard of again.
I seem to remember that the alderscum tried to name a street for Hampton once before. At that time it ended up shot down.
Unfortunately, most of the alderscum don't read anything that doesn't involve money in their pocket. I remember one of the aldermen saying "I thought it was for the football player" (Dan Hamption)Yes people they don't have a clue.
Bottom line is nobody cares. All the politicians hate us. We should be used to it by now. Every one of us is an expendable resource to them. Richie hates us. We have surrounded him since he was a sperm. We were his babysitters, disciplinarians, and are a necessary evil to him. He and all the rest of the politicians would rather surround themselves with convicted felons (supposedly reformed) and other assorted scum. This is the reason we have hired truck scandals, operation greylords, and the rest of the assorted political scandals.
The only time they are happy to see us is when one of their constituants is ready to blow their head off and then we are good enough to be recognized.
Sorry to be so long winded on this but it is just my opinion on the matter. Stay safe boys and girls.
How about Mayor Richie's response: "killing policemen isn't a good thing." What a moron. He inherited his father's name but he sure came up short on the "stones." I was around when the old man told us "shoot to kill." He may have screwed us on raises but you had to give him credit for having the balls to stand up to the likes of Jesse the Jag.
Excellent article published written by Jay Epstein of the New York Times regarding Panthers and the killings in the 002. Gives both the police version and the published Panther version of events. 6 pages but best article I've seen.
http://www.edwardjayepstein.com/archived/panthers.htm
Joe Cassidy kick some ass? Sure after he coughs out his other lung. Thief butt-hand!
Fuck Fred H. and any person who would support a shitbag like that .......They wanna give him a street or area to name for him well here'e a suggestion.....how about the SANITATION CANAL AREA! figure that will about honor him in a nutshell. Oh and by the way, maybe we can honor Bobby Rush with a landfill site. This world is getting outta wack here when we have to debate whether or not to have a shitbag like that even mentioned on a street let alone a bathroom stall. We really should try to get that street named after the CPD that were killed by these so-called people, would be nice to CPD protest this!
If any of you bloggers think that the black community supports the killing of innocent police,than you are truly lost.Yes,there is a small irrational,idiotic segment of the black community that is just as hateful and spiteful as some in other communities,however(and i know it's hard for some of you to believe) there are a lot of hard working,right minded individuals who condemn the naming of anything after a murderer.just like the media paints all of us (policeman) with the same tainted brush.....
7 year cpd/100%black/100%blue
PHIL HAVE YOU NO SHAME !!!!
maybe they can kill a policemen so you can get face time for your precious memorial.
Where are you for the troops !!
Contact your Alderman and post their responses. It's election time boys and girls. Even if they are not running they support someone for something. If they are against us, then support the opposition. This is an insult to us, especially Officers Rappaport and Gilhooly and their families.
Post all the assignments these politicians get for free. Dorothy Tilman's party " security". bobby rush used to call the 2nd District Watch Commander when ever he had a problem with his kids coming by and causing a disturbance outside his house. Never a radio job, hush hush kind of thing. if that stuff is still going down, get on the radio and tell the dispatcher your location and nature of the job,it's a general order.Let's stick together in this fight, if not for us then the memory of those fallen Officers and their families. I'll post later with my Alderman's response, if I get one or not.
Since Officers Frank Rappaport and John Gilhooly were killed a mere 2 weeks before Hampton and Clark by members of the BPP, I think its a fair conclusion on both sides that Hampton and Clark were deliberately murdered by CPD/FBI officers during the Hampton/Clark raid. I for one would be embarrassed if we had merely taken them into custody only to have the charges later dismissed by some Judge on a technicality. Payback's a bitch . . .
The ABOVE TROLL has posted this msg on at least three different threads,
It is a crying shame that the black community elects racist derelicts like Rush and Haithcock...they wonder why their race will never be viewed as equals.....they have morons for mouthpieces....that goes for Jesse and Jakes and Meeks and others. What have these people done for blacks except teach them how to hate and blame. Black people will never advance as long as they gear all their efforts at getting even with whitey....Bill Cosby was right.
How bout a work stoppage in some of the neighborhoods governed by Haithcock and Rush.....perhaps then they will see what happens when the police don't care either
And how bout our useless Supt. getting away from the buffet and standing up for his troops....it is funny how he shows up at Meeks' House of Racism and he can't find time to address this issue....
We could pull a 1631!
Squad hold me down on a TVB
Hold me down on a flat
Hold me down on a hand waver
Hold me down for...
To northside 2/28/2006 7:20 pm
You sir, need to pop another prozac and chill out. We don't care about how things were back in your day. Go back to molesting your pet cat.
Naming a street after the leader of the cop-killing Black Panthers is definitely rubbing it in our faces. The NYPD share the Chicago PD anger with these lunatics.
Thanks for your condolences for Eric Hernandez, 52nd Pct. We're all on the same team, brothers.
Stay safe and God bless the CPD!
Hey, leave NORTHSIDE alone. Maybe he did forget his meds but I remember him going nose to nose with Bobby Rush on the corner of Monroe and Western about 12 hours after the shooting. My partner and I escorted NORTHSIDE away and Rush was left on the corner babbling to himself just like he does today.
I just read 2/28/2006 9:34:26 PM
Listen youngster, I was, and still am, on the job when this shooting happened. I am not upset with your ignorant comments. You know why?
CAUSE I AINT THE ONE WHO IS DEAD
get it asshole?
1:35:43 AM
While 9:07 PM is full of shit, YOU have my attention. I'm just again saying "thanks" for the back-up over 36 years ago on my 10-1 with Rush & the BPP at that very intersection; MONROE & WESTERN.
They tried to take away my prisoner from a curbed stolen auto.
The sole reasons for my response here is both gratitude and curiousity: WHO ARE YOU?
Just wanted to say "thank you" again. I remember I got a swift and large bail-out from units from 011 and 013, saving my ass. You must have been there because it did indeed occur at Monroe & Western.
Please drop me a confidential eMail, "mystery man":
cpdfop7@yahoo.com
From what I heard on the newscasts concerning this issue, Haithcock will bring this up at a city council meeting at the end of the month. How about we get together and have a show of force at the meeting? What about it FOP? Buses from the union hall so parking wouldn't be an issue?
Theres a photo I have seen that shows Jesse "My Brother is an El Rukin" Jackson (Noah Jackson currently doing federal time for a homicide while being a part of the El Rukin street gang) sitting on the floor with Larry Hooover, Jeff Fort and I belive it's Dave Barksdale. Maybe some of the narcotic officers who were working narcotics during the Clinton regime will inform us on why when Bobbie Rush would get on the phone with dope dealers the wire had to be shut down immediately I'm unsure if it was a fed or state wire.
Village of Maywood
Parks & Recreation Department
FRED HAMPTON FAMILY AQUATIC CENTER 300 OAK ST
Been named after this scumbag since 1970's
The Panthers funded it, so why not!
I recall vividly in front of the Black Panther Headquarters on Madison St. Yelling to crowd KILL ALL THE WHITE MOTHERFUCKING PIGS! THat was Fred HAMPTON, the hero they want to name of sreet after?
FRED IS DEAD WITH TWO IN THE HEAD GOOD FOR THE SCUM BAG.
FRED IS DEAD WITH TWO IN THE HEAD GOOD FOR THE SCUM BAG.
Has eveyone forgotten JIMMY ALPHANO, the great Detective from GIU who was murdured by the Blackstone rangers/EL Rukins. I havent. Rest in peace JIMMY.
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