Update to Previous Post
We were just thinking over some of the comments that we saw in the posts about some young kids not acting right at the funeral. We were there and didn't see any misbehavior, but if there was, we'd hope a boss comes down on them like a ton of bricks (you know, like how they won't with certain almost sergeants near airplanes).
That being said, perhaps the kids weren't taught how to act at funerals. If you happen to be unfortunate to attend more than a few, you learn real quick. Second, they had all the kids stacked along the block with no veterans among them. So here they are, green as can be, confronted with a guy not older than they are, being buried after dying doing the exact same job that they are signing up for - what would most coppers do? A little bravado? A little nervous joking? A little childishness? Probably.
Nothing brings home your own mortality than burying someone your age or younger. The young aren't supposed to think about death as much as the old. Life looks a lot better and promising from the young side of 40 or 50. But not when burying a 26 year old cop. If the kids were a little out of line, correct them, don't slam them. Once they march in a few St. Jude's parades or (god forbid) attend another funeral with some regular guys and gals in the districts, they'll learn. We all did.
That being said, perhaps the kids weren't taught how to act at funerals. If you happen to be unfortunate to attend more than a few, you learn real quick. Second, they had all the kids stacked along the block with no veterans among them. So here they are, green as can be, confronted with a guy not older than they are, being buried after dying doing the exact same job that they are signing up for - what would most coppers do? A little bravado? A little nervous joking? A little childishness? Probably.
Nothing brings home your own mortality than burying someone your age or younger. The young aren't supposed to think about death as much as the old. Life looks a lot better and promising from the young side of 40 or 50. But not when burying a 26 year old cop. If the kids were a little out of line, correct them, don't slam them. Once they march in a few St. Jude's parades or (god forbid) attend another funeral with some regular guys and gals in the districts, they'll learn. We all did.
posted by SCC at 6:10 AM
56 Comments:
Amen....
I was there as well an saw none of the previously described behavior. The entire service, from church to grave site, was reverential and respectful befitting a fallen hero.
God speed Officer Solorio.
I concure with the above post. I too was there for the entire funeral and the cemetery service. Standing for several hours in the rain holding my district's guide-on, everybody, recruits, under 3 years and old timers like myself,and believe it or not, so were the exempts were polite, respectful and mindful where they were at. I can only hope that the officer who mentioned that there was a situation that was deemed unapproiate, was an isolated incident.
I will add this about the honor guard. THEY ARE A FIRST CLASS GROUP OF OFFICERS THAT SEND I CHILL DOWN YOUR SPINE AS YOU WITNESS THE MOVEMENTS. WHAT PROFESSIONALS! I don't think that a military honor guard could do much better. These officers certainly are to be commended. Thank You.
not to change topic but I want to send a message to all my co-workers and friends.
last night was my first night back after 7 and 1/2 months off from my motorcycle crash.
I was greeted back with open arms and I got to tell you it sure is good to be back.
in a time where we usually hear the negative about almost everything I want to buck the trend and say something positive.
I am the luckiest man in the universe because i am a member of the greatest family in the world. The Chicago Police Department and I wanted to say thank you to everyone over the last many many months while I was getting better going thru rehab.
There wasnt a day that I wasnt called or made contact with in some way by friends or co workers concerned how I was doing and when I would be back.
You are all a great group of wonderful people and I am proud to be a member of this fine family.
Thank you all from the bottom of my heart.
God Bless Eric and may he rest in peace
Just look at the bozos they hire now. They are all full of themselves, act like assholes. Go to bars getting drunk with the mind-set "We are the police we can do anything!" Their driving habits,very poor. The gun and badge, is their power. Come on vets, slap the crap out of them.
First-Welcome back Bob, don't know ya but glad your healthy again. Second-Good thread on the young guys. Let's not forget they are YOUNG and it's our responsibility as seasoned veterans to TEACH them. If we don't who will? It's unfortunate and sad, but it seems to me that there has been less fellow officer bashing as a result of Eric's death and postings about him. Why does it take a death of one of our brothers to bring us together? As Metallica puts it "Sad but true"
Welcome back Bob, I had no idea you were off.
I have noticed that since going to straight shifts, its been kids teaching kids. The positive is that they are out there trying to kick ass and take names. The negative is that they really don't know how to do so yet. They don't know how to stay safe, how to search cars/people. They don't know how to write paper to make cases or get out of CR's, or how to avoid CR's in the first place.
We need those of us with time on the job who work afternoons and midnights to make sure that the young officers out there working know that we are accessible whenever they need guidance. We should roll on their jobs and see how they handle things, then have them roll on ours and learn from our ways. We need to mentor these young kids.
Yes, there are the cocky young kids you can't teach anything to, but there are lots of young officers out there who want to learn and would appreciate a veteran who takes his time to teach. I worked 5 years before I worked with a 30yr veteran, and I never learned so much until I did.
Lets be honest, the dog veterans and the mutt-puppy kids won't care to teach/learn, but there are enough of us who do care, old and young, that we can make a difference.
RIP Eric. We'll hoist a cold one beyond the clouds some day...
Seiser Runs it!!!
I was new on the job when Daniel Doffyn was murdered in the 015th District. I have been to far too many Police funerals since then. Many city and suburban, some downstate and out of state. Just like marching in the Saint Jude parade, I have never felt such a kinship with my fellow brothers and sisters, nor such pride. On days when I feel that I have had enough, I think about those Police funerals, the sacrifices that these officers made and their loved ones bear. I remember travelling the streets of various towns, driving in the processesions, seeing persons come out of their businesses, some out of curiousity, some out of respect. People standing on the side of the roads, holding flags and signs with the officer's star/badge number. People and their kids holding their hands over their hearts and some holding a salute. We don't see it or hear it enough, but there are those times that I see that some do appreciate who we are and what we do. It is sad that not many citizens see the St. Jude parade, but when I round Chicago avenue and hear the pipes and drums, my chest swells with pride and tears build in my eyes, as they do now, because we have buried another. God bless all of us and God bless Police Officer Eric Solorio.
At the wake officers were talking loud and acting like it was a bar. We(police) took the family out of their own service..I would never want this if i get hurt on the job. I just want a normal service not the circus act I observed.
Totally agree with 0830 post. Just like 9/11 after that everyone loved eachother and respected eachother in america. 2006 back to the same old shit. Remember when something happens to you as a p/o the only ones you can rely on are your family and your adopted family in blue. TAKE CARE OF EACHOTHER! Also remember the city does not care about you! At all. Take care of you!
Most young cops are copper's kids. Who else in their right mind would take this job?? They are for the most part snot nosed brats. The same punks 5 years ago you were trying to stop tear assing around 16 and 22. If they did stop the little punks would cock off to you. Big surprise they are punk ass recruits now. Laughing and giggling at a police funeral.
Before you say "not my kids" look in the mirror. Your boozing and womanizing and multiple divorces lead to their disrespect of authority.
Fuck you very much!
This is just my opinion and observation, so if I'm wrong, I apologize to all.
I could not attend the first day fo the wake. However, since this is in my neighborhood, saw a gathering of officers on the sidewalk (both sides). They were laughing, gabbing on cell phones, etc. Perhaps it was their way of dealing with this. I don't know.
On the secodn day, I went in. It was the same deal.
However, the positive thing out of all of this was the most professional and caring treatment from the Honor Guard and Commander.
They took the time to personally bring me to Mrs. Solorio, and one of the officer's even translated for me.
This meant a lot to me, because I can only imagine what Mrs. Solorio and the family is going through at this time. It looked like some of the family was sitting outside, young members, with extreme fear and shock in their eyes.
The worst part was seeing this yougn man in the coffin, so young. Never fulfilling his career and neve had a chance to start his own family.
I feel very bad because you want to do everything to help this family and take away the pain.
Running the memorial, I've seen very large attendance at wakes and funerals, and guess was expecting more to show... civilians and police...
I woner why Nero, Oh, I mean, Bush II has such low approval #.....
White House Defends Sale of Port Operations to Arab Firm
WASHINGTON (Feb. 17) - The Bush administration on Thursday rebuffed criticism about potential security risks of a $6.8 billion sale that gives a company in the United Arab Emirates control over significant operations at six major American ports.
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Lawmakers said the UAE was an important transfer point for shipments of smuggled nuclear components sent to Iran, North Korea and Libya by a Pakistani scientist, Abdul Qadeer Khan. They also said the UAE was one of only three countries to recognize the now-toppled Taliban as Afghanistan's legitimate government.
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Critics also have cited the UAE's history as an operational and financial base for the hijackers who carried out the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
The dept. is coming out with a new ribbon. The 100 gun ribbon. So come on guys lets grab everybodys guns.
Flash! or not.
As you should already do anyway, check your paychecks. Since the change over, the city has neglected to give officers their step-raises.
So if you were entitled to a step raise recently, check your paystubs to see if and when the raise kicked in; you may be entitled to some back pay.
Mine is already 3 paychecks late.
Speaking of Honor Guards
We could all use some close order drill instruction so that we look better at St Judes Parades
Just a thought from an old guy
In reguards to post 09:05:09, he is absolutely CORRECT! Straight shifts really hurt the Dept. When you see all these young kids on 1st & 3rd watch, you rarely see any "veterans" around to help guide them. What if we went back to rotating watches. Instead of every 28 days as in the past, why coulnd't we rotate every 4 months. I think that maybe then when we can have a more well rounded and unified Dept. We might also see fewer of these kids getting hurt, on and off duty. And finally to Eric,Those before you will now show you the way. Rest in Peace.
hats off to the honor guard rest in peace Eric
welcome back BOB!
10:46:26 AM
The effect of circadian rhythms from shift rotation was a proven killer of police officers. If you want more seasoned veterans working during the hours of darkness, implement $hift pay differential.
In any event, the HQ pussies with clout are "police" in name only. They will continue to work steady days with weekends off, laughing their asses off at district patrol.
Just curious, what's your tour schedule? Do you believe da job is on the legit?
Also, will the moron(s) who keep making inane posts about somebody named "Seiser" please knock it off? It can be irritating and in some cases, even disrespectful to the context of the thread.
God bless P.O. Eric Solorio. Rest in Peace, my brother.
But Seiser runs the blog.
Seiser runs it
If A/2 Gun Team really want's to reduce crime, maybe they can kick down the doors of all the illegal mexicans in 008 and arrest them and impound their vehicles.
More deaths are caused by hit and runs nationwide then by firearms.
Does this mean we ban automoblies?
Now before the P.C. crowd jumps down my throat, this comment is meant to be absurd, to get people thinking. This is not meant to insult mexicans.I'm just using this example, to show how ridiculeous the anti-gun crowds argument about seizing the collector's guns before they fall into the gangbangers hands are/is. They are assuming that at some time in the future the collectors gun collection will somehow end up in the hands of gangbangers by some unmentioned action!
I'm not critisizing the players (a/2 gun-team) just the game (Daley and the anti-gun crowd)....
Any thoughts or comments?
I was at the service yesterday, I also did not observe any innappropriate behavior by any officer, or recruit who was there. Many of those recruits stood out there in the rain without rain gear, saluted to the family of the fallen officer as well as the hearse, and acted in a professional manner. There were seaoned officers in the lines with them. In all, despite the rain and small turn-out, I thought both the church and grave site services were done in a professional and respectful manner. Unfortunately, we have done too many of these services lately. Hopefully it is a long, long, long time before we have to do this again! Rest in peace Eric, watch over us all.
Seiser is the #2 guy on the area 2 gun team.
Aside from Daley mispronouncing his unit, the TACTICAL Repsonse Unit, all things went well with Officer Solario's services.
I will not debate if more P.O.'s should have been there, his family and unit was there, enough said.
There was an impressive convoy of squads, over 325, taking him to his final resting place.
Kudos to State Police, Summit, Bedford Park and all other suburban departments for clearing the way.
Very classy move by CFD hoisting the flag over the cemetary entrance and snapping to attention. I for one do not believe the hype about us and CFD, we'd do the same for them.
All in all, a top notch performance on a very sad day.
To: FTO Bob Cav 025
Welcome back Bob!! Did they leave that extra big mirror in your squad so you can look at yourself every 5 minutes?
The mirror is no longer in Bob’s car.
Sgt. “Pretty Boy” Donny on midnights took it so he can keep checkin’ himself out.
there were some very good posts ... but I also see alot of negatives ... stay positive .. God bless brother eric
Side note... It's not about the funeral, but rather young coppers doing stupid shit. Well, not so young but young enough. IAD stripped two PO's from Homan square yesterday. Steroids.
Details are unknown still, so i wont speculate, however, all you muscleheads should take note the man is cathching up to the "loophole" in our contract. Who cares if you beat the case two years later, what about sitting at call back taking calls from shitheads all day long. It's not worth it. You may not get pussy from bar whores anymore, but the 225 lbs female copper sitting next to you in the beat car will still suck your dick on a personal.
that was the kind of dumb post that I would expect from a dog ... guys like that are the ones that are always taking shortcuts, (getting caught)complaining about how the jobs sucks (because they never do anything), and bitch when they take time (cuase they deserve it) ... face it you're a loser ... you obviously have low self esteem, and I am sure he considers himself the REAL POLICE ... insteading complaining ... what have YOU done lately to make the job better ...
Welcome back BoB and yes we could get all get the boys together for dinner 1 night. p.s hi Les and Rick
This blog sucks. We go from a funeral, to steroids, to lunch dates. What the fuck.
It's a CPD Tabloid!!!!!!!! LOL
Seiser sells Steroids!!!!
Shame to hear about coppers getting tossed down to call back for something like steroids. Lets hope it all works out for them. Right or wrong, they're still the police and innocent til proven otherwise.
Shame to hear about coppers getting tossed down to call back for something like steroids. Lets hope it all works out for them. Right or wrong, they're still the police and innocent til proven otherwise.
2/17/2006 03:08:23 PM
A controlled substance is a controlled substance. Would you hold a benefit if they pissed hot for Heroin?
I was in the procession yesterday. I am very thankful for everything the other agencies did to help us out. State police, Lyons, Summit, Bedford Park and anyone I missed. I was filled with a feeling of pride when I observed the Officers of these departments Standing outside their cars, not BS'n but at parade rest and in the rain. I especially wanted to mention the officers on the tops of some of the bridges giving salutes. It was a very hard day yesterday and seeing this made feel...well you all know the feeling. I also want to thank the Justice fire Dept (I think that’s who it was) for the touching display and being out of their trucks in the rain while entering the cemetery. I guess the men and women of this department also deserves thanks, this service was very moving and from what I can see was handled with dignity and respect, expect for one incident. And the incident I speak of was "IKE" driving front of the church while the color guards, unit, and the honor guard were practicing. I did not see any other car do that the whole time. Personally I think politicians should be bared from such events. I could care less for the nonsense they bring to this sacred ground.
Young, dumb, and full of cum!
hearing that the accident that severly injured an Arlington Heights police officer yesterday involved a sheriff who was supposedly depressed and suicidal....anyone have any info at all about what the hell is going on over in the County police force?
Cook County Sheriff lost ANOTHER prisoner today. Thank god Sheehan personally captured her later!!
Privativze the jail already and get rid of the over-paid gangbangers that work there!!
If they are on steroids, they should be fired...period. If I pissed hot for weed or coke, I would be fired.
I TOO WAS AT THE FUNERAL I DID NOT SEE ANY RECRUIT OR P.O. MISBEHAVIOR DURING THE PROSESSION OR IN THE FAMILIES EYES...BUT AFTER THE MASS STARTED I WITNESS RECRUITS MOCKING THE MASS SAYING PREISTS LINES, SMOKING AND JOKING IN THE PUBLICS VIEW.. BUT WHEN IN VIEW DURING THE CEREMONY EVERYONE WAS QUITE SERIOUS AND VERY PROFESSIONAL. AND U CAN'T CORRECT THESE KIDS THEY MIGHT BE CLINES KID, OR COUSIN OR NEPHEW THEN UR IN 003 ON MIDNIGHTS
NICE JOB BY THE P.O.'S FROM OFFICER SOLORIO UNIT. I'M SURE THAT THE NEW LT. PLAYED A BIG ROLE IN THE RESPECTFUL AND DIGNIFIED WAY THING WERE HANDLED.
hey does anyone know when the new dicks will be made?
Privativze the jail already and get rid of the over-paid gangbangers that work there!!
2/17/2006 05:10:52 PM
You need to be drug screened, because you're obviously smoking something!
Accountability, training, SCREENING OF THE APPLICANTS....those are things that need to be done. But the last fucking thing we need is the lowest bidder with $10 an hour jail guards. Get real will you.
AND NO, I'm not CCDOC, I'm CPD.
Wait, on second thought, let's get rid of CCDOC and put CHICAGO POLICE in there. And the first detail of people in can include YOU!
Wait, on second thought, let's get rid of CCDOC and put CHICAGO POLICE in there. And the first detail of people in can include YOU!
Yeah, you are right. These patronage hacks that make way too much money have been doing a FINE job at the jail lately.... Idiot!
I TOO WAS AT THE FUNERAL I DID NOT SEE ANY RECRUIT OR P.O. MISBEHAVIOR DURING THE PROSESSION OR IN THE FAMILIES EYES...BUT AFTER THE MASS STARTED I WITNESS RECRUITS MOCKING THE MASS SAYING PREISTS LINES, SMOKING AND JOKING IN THE PUBLICS VIEW.. BUT WHEN IN VIEW DURING THE CEREMONY EVERYONE WAS QUITE SERIOUS AND VERY PROFESSIONAL. AND U CAN'T CORRECT THESE KIDS THEY MIGHT BE CLINES KID, OR COUSIN OR NEPHEW THEN UR IN 003 ON MIDNIGHTS
2/17/2006 06:00:02 PM
And where pray tell, was this smoking and joking by recruits taking place? As far as I could tell they all pretty much went back inside the school across the street and were watching the mass on the closed circuit hook-up. And if they were acting the fool in the public' eye officer, what did you do or say about it? Nothing I suppose, would rather hide behind the anonymity of a blog site. Sorry we all can't be as perfect as you. Keep this on topic, it was a very moving ceremony, and it was touching to see the support from our own members as well as the other departments.
Fuck IAD! Empty holstered cunts! Never been the police, so they get off on fucking with the police. They all deserve AIDS.
Yeah, you are correct-the recruits went back inside the school while most of the PO's and the pre-service sgts stayed on post.
WHO'S BOB? WHAT HE DO? WAS HE SHOT? DID HE HAVE CANCER?
Yeah, you are correct-the recruits went back inside the school while most of the PO's and the pre-service sgts stayed on post.
2/18/2006 01:27:28 AM
Where were you? Nobody stayed outside. Get off the pipe son!
Everyone except those assigned to a specific street went into either the church or the school. Ten minutes after the service started the street in front of the church was vacant.
The only people left were the media.
Please try to get your testimony straight.
Or at least seek soemone who can prep you a little more effectively.
IAD had nothing to do with those coppers getting busted. The Feds handled the entire case.
To 9:23 and 10:49 No Everybody DID NOT go into the school or church once the ceremony started.....I and 102 other coppers from the pre Sgt course were on post outside the church standing on our assigned corners....with no complaints either...so mabye you are the one smoking the pipe?
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