In Case Anyone Was Counting
Today (Monday) marked 28 days without a single word from a single exempt member that naming a street after a person who called for the slaughter of police officers (and whose organization actually succeeded in killing quite a few officers) is WRONG.
Wednesday, 29 March, we get to see if an alderman keeps his word and can keep this atrocity from happening with a mere procedural maneuver.
Has the world gone completely mad?
Wednesday, 29 March, we get to see if an alderman keeps his word and can keep this atrocity from happening with a mere procedural maneuver.
Has the world gone completely mad?
posted by SCC at 10:50 PM
44 Comments:
yea
Second
"We must embrace non-violence", Martin Luther King, Jr.
"Off the Pigs", Fred hampton.
Alderman, Mr. Superintendent, Mr. Mayor make your choice.
who gives a fuck how does the naming of a street really affect you. if you let the naming of a street of some piece of dog shit shithead affect your life you've got to much time on your hands. if you were exempt would you call a press conference and talk out about it? you're gonna loose your very high paying job over some west side ass hole that WE KILLED almost 40 years ago?
Since most of the exempts are career service lieutenants, it's a huge bump in salary when they finally get that gold star. I know, because I was with an exempt on the day he got his first full fledged commander's check, and it was a HUGE increase in take home pay.
That being said, it's somewhat understandable that they don't want to jeopardize such a salary. It's easy for those of us with career service ratings to think otherwise, but when you're going to give up big bucks, you're not going to piss into the wind.
The person(s) that should have spoken up are those with tenure who have nothing to lose, i.e. the Superintendent, 1st Deputy and other Deputy Superintendents. They each have enough time to get an exempt pension and the time on the job. Worse case scenario is they speak up and are forced out.
Take the big man himself: Had he spoken up and pissed off the little man, what's the worst that could have happened? He would have left as Superintendent and with 75% of a large salary. He also would have had the added respect of his subordinates.
Politics run the show, politics caused the entire debacle in the first place, and politics appear to have come up with a solution.
The real pity is that the black community.....the real black community, the thousands of hard working men and women who aren't thugs and gangbangers, were silent. Had someone come up with the idea that Al Capone (for example) should be honored for his soup kitchens, I'd say bullshit!
And so it goes......(my apologies to Linda Ellerbee)
She stole that line from Walter Cronkite
1100
Regarding our Fallen Officers
Albert Einstein sums it up:
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.
No, Walter Cronkie said: "And that's the way it is, Monday March 27th, 1980, this is Walter Cronkite for CBS News, goodnight"
Is there an official word from CLine at all?? has FOP7 asked him to respond?
How can we go on the street "fight crime" when leaders of men won't stand up for them ?
really not one word from Cline ?
Walter Cronkite also said:
I've gone from the most trusted guy in America to one of the most debated.
Off topic i know BUT...
I hear Ricky;s ex Maria is going to get 75% disability !!
is it true and for what ???
She going to collect from our pension for the next 40 years for being a biotch.
I'll hire a private eye im sure the positions she can contort too have too prove she's faking it
1137
This issue got hot, and they just wanted it to go away. Proving silence is not always Golden.
Read previous blog, if you get the chance on Rush angle.
to 11:01
Youre correct that the Exempts have a huge bump in salary over a career Lieutenant. Plus a car and a chance at a gold braid pension.
a call girl makes a lot more than a waitress ina diner All she has to do to get that money is suck a few strange dicks and lick a few assholes
The question becomes, "can one look at ones self in the mirror for a few pieces of gold?'
Its all about self respect which neither the Exempts nor the Call girls seem to have
By the way, I wish the Dept would stick it in my ass and make me a Lieutenant
Don't know who Maria is, I know eventually she would have to prove she cannot work in any employment.
I have known coopers off for yrs. getting 75% until the city's Dr. by the way a Gynecologist says, oh yes you can go back as limited duty. Then another battle ensues unless she has already hurled that. Has this Maria floated thru the blogs before? :-)}
I just retired last week with 29+ years of service
If Maria is getting a duty disability pension (75%)then its a bigger travesty than Mrs John Thomas getting a line of duty death widow's pension (also a travesty)
We all might as well spend 10 years on the payroll ( half on the medical roll and doing nothing the other half and then get 75%
UNBELIEVEABLE
AND those who facilitated it belong in jail
exempt silence: word is, there are several expemts who were livid at the street sign proposal, who wanted to speak out, but the Hall just as much ordered their silence (for political reasons). One can speculate as to their reasons for following such an order (sacrificing their principles (?) for a salary/pension, etc.)...when did they stop being the police (if they ever were)?
Congratulations on making that retirement wish you well. I refuse to go that long. Not in this new dept. the pilot bailed.
Stay safe.
Appearance of unified management. Possible favors owed, who knows other then our leadership looks weak and pathetic to their rank and file. Well, at least we really know where the show is run from. This one goes straight to the top.
Apparently they see us as powerless, and couldn't care less.
1128
said...
Albert Einstein sums it up:
Whoever is careless with the truth in small matters cannot be trusted with important matters.
this is the king of shit I'm talking about you people take this that serouis that you have find some obscure quote from albert Einstein.
Lets be serouis this is only a job, I go out every day and lock people up, I DO MY JOB, not because I'm a suck hole or ass kisser i do it because I have self respect. I'm not gonna sit here and say I know it all or have done it all but I've been on the job long enough to know not to take it that serious. There are people on this Blog that want bosses to stand up for something that They (the blogger) believes in. If I were a boss I would not say shit because Fred Hampton has no direct affect on my life again people remember that OUR PEOPLE, THE BOY's IN BLUE KILLED THIS SHIT HEEL and saved all of us a headache 35 years later because now we dont have to deal with the fucking assholes. The fucking shit heads that we deal with are so intent on killing one another with guns / drugs who gives a fuck let them continue their game of death.
1218 Why so hostile?
YOU PEOPLE, THAT YOU REFER TO HAPPEN TO BE FELLOW OFFICER'S. IF YOU ARE WHAT YOU CLAIM TO BE.
THE REAL POLICE WOULD REMEMBER, EVEN IF IT WAS OVER 100 YRS. AGO, YOUR TAG WAS LAME.
"...who gives a fuck how does the naming of a street really affect you."
Well, who will speak up about this? Oh wait, it can't be the officers that were killed at the hands of the Black Panthers, can it?
Unless we dig them up from the ground and they suddenly can speak.
But I'm sure with everything going on, I'm sure they could talk.
I WAS TALKING TO A FIREMAN THE OTHER DAY AND A FEW OTHER COPPERS AND I THOUGHT THAT IF THE FIRE DEPT. UNION HEAD WOULD JOIN DONAHUE AND STAND W/ US AGAINST THIS SIGN THING AND ASK THAT FIRE FIGHTERS WHO DIED (ON DUTY) ALSO GET STREET SIGNS NAMED FOR THEM IT WOULD GO ALONG WAY TO HAVING MORE VOICES I KNOW THAT SINCE 80 POLICE DONT LIKE F.F.'S BUT THIS COULD BE BENEFICIAL TO BOTH SIDES UR THOUGHTS?
1251
I know that under ST Jude blog, there was an officer who was going to see how many other dept's. he/she could get to march with us.
You might ask the lodge who they have already joined hands with, I think in one of the blogs fire was mentioned. This may have been a fireman in support.
1218/1250
Your not the police, your remarks are offensive you know repugnant, stuff it your a trolling bore.
Let's go to IRAs.
Damn, it closed on us.
P.S. 1251
80 police dont like F.F. while your on the phone with the lodge why don't you mention that, they may get a chuckle and you a CLICK IN THE EAR!
1257
People other than coopers went to IRA's. If this was your reference to being the police, just wonderin.
Groupies galore where ever the police did or do hang-out.
Millions of beaners marching. Wildog committing crimes more than ever. I think a civil war is brewing. Maybe I can work a forth job so there is enough taxes to pay for all this welfare and free medical as our retired cops are being screwed.
This country is screwed!
I guess it's time to moderate comments...
Perhaps you can do this from a handheld device. The vile garbage from the non-police and responses are boaring...
Hey SCC, today is my birthday!!
Gee... no cyber Duncan Hines b-cake, decorations...nothing!?!??!?
Man...
Oh yes, I found this at the library. It's called:
"OFF THE PIG" on VHS
From: The Black Panther
What's happening people? (FREE HUEY) Good evening, Good morning. I think it's about 12:00 right now. It's about 12:00 and if you look in the back of you, you will see Reagan's state building, with his state pigs observing the people. And, of course, if you look in front of you, you will see Nixon's U.S. federal building, with the pigs inside, observing the people. And if later on you decide to leave here and go on down Polk Street, you'll walk in front of pig mayor Alioto's office, and they'll be observing the people. Now I know you've heard a lot lately about what pig Mafioso, Moussili, Alioto, has had to say, (right on I know you've heard this pig with his ignorant backwards, minded butt sit up and say crazy things, like he wants to destroy the Black Panther Party. But the Black Panther Party, and black people, and Mexican-American people, and all people are saying there will always be Huey P. Newton, and a Black Panther Party, as long as there are black people living here in this city. (right on).
Pig mayor Alioto said that he wanted to destroy the Black Panther Party. Richard Nixon, from the United States White House, is saying that he wants to destroy the Black Panther Party, by lying to the people, (right on) and by not telling the truth; and the reason they're not telling the truth is 'cause they always told lies. Right on. They told lies about the people, trying to protect their own self-capitalist interests. In the papers this morning (and I want the papers to get ahold of this) they're saying or trying to imply that the Black Panther Party is "subversive." Well, this is all the Black Panther Party has to say to all those pigs in the power structure. The Black Panther Party, along with other members of the community are feeding 2,000 young brothers and sisters every morning (right on), if that's subversive, then damn it we're subversive. (More right on's). The Black Panther Party is going forth implement Free Health Clinics in the black community, and we hope the Mexican-Americans, and the Chinese-Americans and all the other people do the same thing -- and if Free Health Clinics are subversive then damnit, mayor Alioto, and pig Reagan and Nixon, damnit, we're subversive. (Right on).
We're saying that the Ten Point Platform and Program that our Minister of Defense Huey P. Newton put together, is in the process of being implemented. That if it had not been for Huey P. Newton we would not have people with an understanding that they got a right to use weapons to defend themselves against any pigs who attack them. (Right on.) We're saying that if it had not been for Huey P. Newton, there would not be any BREAKFAST FOR CHILDREN. (Right on.) If it had not been for Huey P. Newton COMMUNITY CONTROL OF POLICE would not be in the process of being implemented by the people. If it had not been for Huey P. Newton, FREE HEALTH CLINICS would not be in the process of being implemented in the black community. If it had not been for Huey P. Newton, the TEN POINT PLATFORM AND PROGRAM of the Black Panther Party would not begin to be implemented by the people. And not only black people, because the Chinese-American, the Red Guard, has copied the same Platform and Program, and they got a right to it. And the Indian-American organization named NARP has copied the same Ten Point Platform and Program of the Black Panther Party and they got a right to it. We're just waiting for this racism to break down when we see in the poor white Appalachians up in the mountains copy the same Ten Point Platform and Program and go forth to destroy the Nixons, the Reagans, and the pig Aliotos. (Right on.) When the Party says "Power to the People, " we ain't jiving a pound. We say Power To The People. And when the people say to Reagan, when the people say to Alioto, when the people say to pig Richard M. Nixon, that we want Huey P. Newton free, we're saying you bald headed pig punks better get out of the way (Right on.) because we're tired. And we saying you better let Huey go. They let that pig O'Brien, who killed Basket go, right on. You let him go on the very minute you allowed him in the street to murder our brothers. They let that other pig go who killed Brother Lindstrom out in Hunter's Point (right on). Wait a minute, the Young Men of [no text --ed.] And this damn bald-headed Mafioso, Alioto jumped up talking about (right on), wait a minute, the Young Men of Action are his boys. Aint he an ass-hole, shame. (Right on.) What we're saying is this. We're saying this here. We heard the brothers say in a press conference the brothers in Young Men of Action, they said in a press conference that they denounced pig mayor Alioto, and mayor Alioto is saying that that's his boys. But we're saying this here: the Panther Party aint mayor Alioto's boys. (laughter) We are the people's workers, and we're going to keep serving the people, everybody. I mean everybody. The man don't like it, but we gone show him. You got your Red Books, hold your Red Books up and tell the brothers where we getting some new ideology from. We're saying like Huey P. Newton said, "that we're going to follow the thoughts of Chairman Mao." We're saying we going . . . Panther Party standing up and proving through social practice that we're not racist, but proving that they in fact are the real racists. They have never liked the Black Panther Party and the people talk about "We want some community control of police." They have never respected Huey P. Newton. But we respect Huey P. Newton. We love Huey P. Newton. (Right on.) I say: We love Huey P. Newton (repeated). We love Eldridge Cleaver (repeated). We love Kathleen Cleaver. We love all our people. We love our people so much that if the pigs attack us, we gone defend ourselves rightfully with guns and force. (Right on.) We love the people (audience repeats) and we love the people so much that we gone say: I am a revolutionary and that's our message to pig Alioto and Richard M. Nixon's America. That you and FREE HUEY, (repeated). FREE HUEY. FREE HUEY.
Some Brothers are walking around with some buckets, some plastic buckets, they gone be asking for some donations for all the money that had to be put out, and we had to borrow it, to put this rally over, and so let's get it together, there some more speakers coming, sister Kathleen Cleaver is here, Eldridge Cleaver's wife, the Chief of Staff David Hilliard is here, we gone donate to the bucket, because are what, we say: I am a revolutionary. (Audience repeats each statement): FREE HUEY P. NEWTON. Down with the pigs. Down with all the pigs. Power to all the people. The collection is going on. Power to the people and thank you brothers and sisters. Right on. [applause]
Mirrored from Maoist International, Black Panther Newspaper Collection
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/
MRC/sealemay11.html
And now the rev senator mule meeks is running for Governor. Unless da black manzis requests are met.
I tell you what you west side donkey meeks. Tell your people to get a job and live a normal life because I am tired of paying for the lazy black ass.
To 11:01:12 -
Well said and spot on.
Anonymous said...
And now the rev senator mule meeks is running for Governor. Unless da black manzis requests are met.
I tell you what you west side donkey meeks. Tell your people to get a job and live a normal life because I am tired of paying for the lazy black ass.
3/28/2006 07:11:08 AM
Actually MEEKS is from the South side
There are many Black people who are gainfully employed
and you aren't paying a GOD DAMN thing for noboby, just don't miss any of those trailer park fees
thanks mary mitchell
lets see....how can we best keep the populace impotent ?
divide them....yes, of course.......black/white/hispanic
fire/police/streets white collar/blue collar etc....
this way they can never achive consensus and we can tax and rule these fools who can't keep their eyes on the ball.
10:55 There is one trailer park in chicago. There are thousands of blocks of ghetto. Who do You think is paying for sec.8, baby's mamma and her 5 shorties, Link and evey able bodied young brotha scamming SSI? This money comes from somewhere, mule!
Exempt vs Call Girl. The call girl actually has more self respect than exempt. She does not pretend to be something she is not (The Police) She is a whore and knows it.
Meeks' Chicago City Hall supporters demand that Blogo give 1 BILLION (!?!) of taxpayers money for black related issues or they will run him.
Does the word EXTORTION come to mind.
Judy Barr Topinka, "stop raiding the pension funds."
Take the big man himself: Had he spoken up and pissed off the little man, what's the worst that could have happened? He would have left as Superintendent and with 75% of a large salary. He also would have had the added respect of his subordinates.
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They have PC where they want him. He wants his kid to be the Supe just like the new Fire Commish was a kid of a prior Fire Commish
How can we go on the street "fight crime" when leaders of men won't stand up for them ?
Leaders??? This dept has no leaders, only "bosses"
AT WHAT POINT DO WE MAKE A STAND?
EXEMPTS WANTING TO STAND UP AGAINST THE STREET SIGN BUT "CITY HALL " ORDERED THEM TO SAY NOTHING?
CITY ALDERMAN WANTING TO HONOR A PERSON WHO ADVOCATED KILLING CHICAGO POLICE OFFICERS?
BUT DON'T SAY ANYTHING BECAUSE DALEY WILL GET UPSET AND DUMP YOU.
WITH LEADERS LIKE THESE WHO NEEDS ENEMIES.
THE VERY IDEA OF EXEMPTS STAYING QUIET ON THIS TOPIC IS REPREHENSIBLE, AND UNACCEPTABLE.
WHAT HAPPENED TO LEADERSHIP AND LOOKING OUT FOR YOUR MEN AND FIGHTING FOR THEM AND STANDING UP FOR THEM.
IS IT TOO MUCH TO EXPECT OUR GOLDSTARS TO TAKE A STAND AGAINST ELECTED ALDERMEN WANTING TO HONOR AN ADVOCATE FOR KILLING POLICE OFFICERS?
IF THE GOLDSTARS WILL NOT STAND UP FOR US AGAINST AN ADVOCATE FOR KILLING COPS THEN THEY NEVER WILL.
THIS WHOLE SIGN ISSUE SAYS ALOT ABOUT OUR ELECTED OFFICALS, BUT SPEAKS VOLUMES ABOUT OUR SO CALLED EXEMPT LEADERSHIP.
THE ENTIRE COMMAND STAFF OF THE CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT IS UNWORTHY OF RESPECT, HONOR OR DIGNITY. THIER SILENCE IS DEFEANING TO OUR EARS.
THEY ARE AN EMBARASSMENT.
I AM ASHAMED OF WHAT THIS ORGANIZATION HAS BECOME.
SUPT. CLINE, IF YOU WILL NOT SPEAK UP FOR US NOW, THEN WHEN?
(With the exceptions of Gilhooly and Rappaport)"...we remember those who have paid the ultimate price for their heroism, their lives."
Walter Cronkite, should have been commentator for PRAVDA. The Red Prick.
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