Monday, March 27, 2006

Once Again, From the Comments

STARTINGTO FEEL SHAME SEZ: Dear SCC between your extended bouts of patting yourself on the back, and telling us how great you are maybe you could clean up your little porno site here. wadddya tink?

Where did we pat ourselves on the back? By saying we did good on the test? Puh-lease. How about instead of taking us to task, you take our compatriots (and the trolls that skate in) to task for the crap they post here? We check the site a couple times a day and clean it up when we get here, but it runs unmanned 22 hours a day MINIMUM. We've got better things to do than monitor what adults type on a computer 24/7 - play with the rug rats, study for part two of the test, kill brain cells with alcohol, photoshop a new picture, etc.

If you go back to our very first posts, this is a HOBBY for us. We aren't pouring our hearts and souls into it. We have a life outside of blogging and being the police. We made a conscious decision to post ONE worthwhile thread a day. Go through our archives and some days, we've posted 3 or 4; some other days, maybe a single half-assed post. But we'll bet we're averaging slightly above the one we said we would.

We've said it before and we'll say it again. We understand the allure of the "bathroom wall" mentality here. We count on it in a way in that we can tell stories that might otherwise never get told. Part of the trade off is the bullshit that you read in the stalls. We clean it up as we're able but we aren't sweating it. And when we run through with our broom every so often, we take out what irritates us - our site, our rules. You don't like it, go elsewhere.

Our only other options involve (A) registered users and (B) fully moderated comments. We hate choice A because it means there is a list in existence. A list is subject to subpoena. A list is traceable. We don't like lists. Choice B has it's allure, BUT it involves a bit of work for us and a LOT of patience for our readers. In a nutshell, we'd get to screen EVERY SINGLE COMMENT before it gets posted. But since we only can get to the blog twice a day, that means all of your insightful commentary sits around for 8 to 12 hours in an e-mail box until we screen it then post it. No more give and take. No more breaking news out of 35th Street. No more of what makes the board a good read. So we use what we have here and deal with it as we can.

If you're the ass who keeps posting the slander, libel and other crap, thanks for nothing. Coppers can always manage to ruin a good thing for other cops. SCCN went away for this reason and the owner of NYPD Rant lost his job for a while over similar shit. Hope you aren't doing it from Department computers (many of which have keylogger programs running) because they will fire you for it. All they have to do is prove you were on the computer at the time stuff was posted - hell, your IP addresses are logged on our SiteMeter. We on the other hand, have a measure of protection as we are doing this off duty, in our spare time and from our own computer. We have a number of legal opinions in our possession should it ever come to a defense so we sleep easy at night.

43 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said. Hmmmm, if you have our IP addresses, that means you know it's me when I tell Malcolm to go shove his "european american" crap.

Hmmmm, well.......Malcolm, shove that "european american" crap!

Am I #1?

3/27/2006 05:39:00 PM  
Blogger SCC said...

Again, it's part of the reason we hate lists. We wouldn't surrender it, but we can't make that promise about the SiteMeter people. Google caved in to China and they're one of the biggest companies out there. Who's to say what SiteMeter would do?

3/27/2006 05:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yep.

And if you're so worried about certain people finding out who you are, then don't post!

3/27/2006 05:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now that would be one heck of a blog. SiteMeter publishes the listing. Could that fall under the Patriot Act? Hmmmmmmm food for thought, Guess Freedom to express oneself is going down the tubes also.

3/27/2006 05:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.noahide.com/
news17.htm

"Another drug/terrorist gang network, the Crips, was launched in the late 1960s as a derivative of which terrorist group operating among American blacks?" SG of Brooklyn, NY, got the correct answer: the Black Panthers.

During the 1960s, the Cuban-directed Revolutionary Action Movement (RAM, a terrorist group openly aligned with Communist China), the Communist Party, USA (CPUSA), and other Marxist groups were actively infiltrating and organizing among black neighborhood groups and gangs in major US cities. From this volatile subversive activity was born the Black Panther Party (BPP), founded in New York by RAM and on the East side of Los Angeles by the Communist-influenced gang, the "Slausons." The Black Panthers went on to receive assistance from Communist Algeria and Cuba, from the Communist revolutionaries in Angola, from the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO) of Yassir Arafat, and from the National Lawyers Guild — the Communist Party legal front in America.

By the late 1960s, the Black Panthers were getting involved in organized crime. Their closely-allied group, the "Slausons," soon helped form the first units of the drug-running gang syndicate now known as the "Crips." From the very beginning, Crips openly imitated the dress, ideology, and organizational structure of their Black Panther sponsors.

While the Black Panther Party itself reorganized as the Black Guerrilla Family, operating among criminals inside the prison system, the Crips went on to dominate the narcotics market nationwide, particulary cocaine; today their gang network operates across the entire United States, and implemented threats of urban warfare in the 1992 Los Angeles riots. Meanwhile, an umbrella organization known as the "CRIPS" (Clandestine Revolutionary International Party Soldiers), an openly Marxist terror group aligned with the Black Guerrilla Family (the former Black Panthers), is working to unify all Crips gangs into one massive terrorist movement that aims to burn down American cities for the sake of Communist revolution (G-d forbid).

But since Communism, as such, holds little or no appeal for the average black youth, the CRIPS and their allied groups are wrapping their goals in the language of black nationalism, trying to create racial hatred and race warfare between blacks and whites.

3/27/2006 05:56:00 PM  
Anonymous dishonorablesign said...

This one is really good.

Read about Sen. Rush here:

http://www.diacritica.com/
sobaka/dossier/jfort.html

That night, Chicago Panther leader Fred Hampton, "information minister" Bobby Rush and other Panther leaders showed up at Fort's headquarters...

3/27/2006 05:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BOBBY RUSH

Democratic Member of Congress
Member of the radical Progressive Caucus
In 1968, went AWOL from the U.S. Army
Co-founder of the Illinois branch of the Black Panther Party
In 1969, served six months in jail for an illegal weapons conviction
Advocates reparations for African Americans

3/27/2006 07:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Always some ass hole that screws it up for everybody

3/27/2006 07:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aldermen's position on Chairman Fred Hampton Way:

Madeline Haithcock (2nd) - Will support ordinance
Dorothy Tillman (3rd) - Will support ordinance
Toni Preckwinkle (4th) - Will support ordinance
Leslie Hairston (5th) - Would not comment to Defender
Freddrenna Lyle (6th) - Will support ordinance
William Beavers (7th) - Will support ordinance
Todd Stroger (8th) - Did not return Defender calls
Anthony Beale (9th) - Undecided
Theodore Thomas (15th) - Undecided
Shirley Coleman (16th) - Will support ordinance
Latasha Thomas (17th) - Did not return Defender calls
Arenda Troutman (20th) - Will support ordinance
Howard Brookins Jr. (21st) - Will support ordinance
Michael D. Chandler (24th) - Will support ordinance
Walter Burnett Jr. (27th) - Will support ordinance
Ed Smith (28th) - Did not return Defender calls
Isaac S. Carothers (29th) - Undecided
Carrie Austin (34th) - Did not return Defender calls
Emma Mitts (37th) - Undecided

3/27/2006 07:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Um, there are 50 Wards here.

3/27/2006 07:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I recall Rugai 19th, Sheehans old ward, saying she would not support but turned up as a no show. This may be a misquote by me, thought I saw something to that effect on one of the threads.

3/27/2006 07:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"If I do run and there are two people in the race who both are not standing for morality, if I don't have every white Christian vote in the state of Illinois, I will stand on top of the Sears Tower and call every one of ya'll racist," Meeks said from his pulpit.

3/27/2006 07:59:00 PM  
Anonymous i love hitney said...

I will never slander Sgt Chris Hitney! She's a babe!

More Hitney please!

3/27/2006 08:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

* Letter to all Aldermen *


March 27, 2006

· "…So we saw it coming while the police were acting so we decided to get down first. So we started the fight. There were 14 of us. We went down into the area of Oakland where the violence was the worst a few blocks away from where Huey Newton had killed that cop so we dealt with them when they came upon us. We were well armed, and we had a shootout that lasted an hour and a half. I will tell anybody that that was the first experience of freedom that I had. I was free for an hour and a half because during that time the repressive forces couldn't put their hand on me because we were shooting it out with them for an hour and a half. Three police officers got wounded. None of them got killed; I got wounded. Another Panther got wounded."

- Interview with Eldrige Cleaver, former Black Panther

· The Black Panthers attracted a wide variety of left-wing revolutionaries and political activists. Among others, the party was supported by former Ramparts Magazine editor, David Horowitz, before he renounced socialism and gradually drifted to the political right. Decades later, upon the death of Huey Newton (who died in a shoot-out with rival gangsters), he would remark, "He (Newton) killed a lot of people." According to Horowitz, the Black Panthers once murdered a young, white female activist named Betty van Patten, whom he had introduced to the Party and who was representing it. After raping her, Horowitz claims, the members beat the woman to death with baseball bats.[12]


· May 2, 1967 - 26 Panthers, lead by Bobby Seale, arrested in Sacramento, CA in conncection with Panther armed visit to State legislature hearing on gun-control legislation (the Mulford Act).
"So Huey says, 'We’re going to the Capitol. Mulford’s there, and they’re trying to pass a law against our guns, and we’re going to the Capitol steps. We’re going to take the best Panthers we got and we’re going to the Capitol steps with our guns and forces, loaded down to the gills. And we’re going to read a message to the world, because the press is always up there. They’ll listen to the message, and they’ll probably blast it all across this country. I know, I know they’ll blast it all the way across California. We’ve got to get a message over to the people.'"
[Seale, Bobby. Seize the Time: The Story of the Black Panther Party and Huey P. Newton. [1st ed.] Baltimore, MD : Black Classic Press, 1991.pp: 148-149 Moffitt E185.615.S37 1991 Main Stack E185.5.S4 1970 (another edition)]

· November 4, 1968 - Panther Raymond Johnson Jr. forces a National Airlines jet to Havana as it was flying from New Orleans to Miami. Johnson spends 18 years in Cuba. He returns in 1986 and pleads guilty of the highjacking.

· January 17, 1969 - Bunchy Carter and John Huggins, leaders of the Southern California BPP are killed in shoot-out with Black nationalist group (US) at UCLA. Shoot-out is the result of a disagreement over appointment of an individual as director of the UCLA Afro-American Studies Center. Ericka Huggins and 12 others arrested and charged with assault with intent to commit murder.A Wall Street Journal article the following month details US leader Ron Karenga's involvement with the FBI.

· January 18, 1969 - Police arrest 17 Black Panther party members at John J. Huggins home in Oakland on charges which include conspiracy to commit assault with deadly weapons and violation of weapons laws; believe meeting was called to avenge murder of Huggins and Bunch Carter.

· May 22, 1969 - Eight Black Panther party members arrested, New Haven, Conn. (including Bobby Seale and Erika Huggins) and charged with murder of NYC BPP member Alex Rackley, who was allegedly 'tried' in kangaroo court of informing on the Panthers, and tortured. Rackley's body was found in Coginchaug River. Six of the suspects were seized at the New Haven Panther headquarters; police uncover tape recordings of trial and several weapons in making arrests.

· June 21, 1969 - Panther William Brent hijacks plane to Cuba.



We find it interesting that many of our City Leaders want to honor Black Panther, Fred Hampton Sr.

Moreso, especially when we did extensive research into the Black Panther history. We actually went into the research with an open mind. In fact, we’re currently in the process of collecting interviews from former Black Panthers, gang affiliations with the Black Panthers, audio/video files, etc.

Our first question is, why did Fred Hampton Jr. ask Alderman Haithcock to enact this ordinance? Why her? Did he reside in her Ward?

We know where he has and is residing: the Joliet prison.

Wasn’t he indicted and sentenced to 18 years in prison for purportedly throwing Molotov cocktails into two Korean-owned businesses in of all places, ENGLEWOOD?!

Which is interesting. Because at the time, he was also President of NPDUM. In St. Petersburg, Florida, there was a riot in 1996. There are rumors circulating that the NPDUM was involved in that horrific riot that destroyed local African-American businesses and residents homes. It was so sad, because their insurance policies didn’t cover riots, etc.

We also wondered about the timing of this and have reason to believe it’s politically charged to evoke votes. Perhaps for a Senator Rush? Is this true?

We ask the City of Chicago why they would want to honor someone involved with such a violent group. If you actually investigate the Black Panthers, you would be alarmed as we were.

Aren’t we all in positions of leadership, where we need to be responsible on behalf of our community? To pick a POSITIVE role model FOR OUR CITY?

We would like to know which Aldermen are going to vote YES for this sign, and which ones are not. Because our next step is to find out the real reason why people are voting yes to this matter when our research shows a very violent group. In fact, we have asked certain people to launch a special investigation into this matter.

This letter is on behalf of our National Police Memorial and our community. STOP THE VIOLENCE AND HONORING VIOLENT GROUPS.

Thank you for your time in this matter.

3/27/2006 08:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can Ald. Allen keep his word not to bring up this damn Hampton sign issue on Wednesday? What's his track record on truth? Any constituents out there?

3/27/2006 08:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I emailed him, as well as the others.

In addition, I have emailed some media because they need to start asking questions.

Especially when I did all this research. My god....

3/27/2006 08:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Westcide Dog said...

Ald. Allen is a pretty decent guy that backs up the coppers. If he said he was not going to bring up it for a vote, he won't. I know you all have doubts about all politicians, but at least trust him on this one.

3/27/2006 09:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Response to Letter to Alderman/woman

I thank all of you for taking the time on Hampton issue, I deeply appreciate it; going in open minded was the only way to go to avoid being clouded.

Good opener, I would call your placement an ease in the door. Makes them more accountable, kinda of a, Hot Seat and the way the material that follows, builds on the important subject matter. From the looks of this so far, you have a dimensional image in words.

FAVORS FROM JAIL (CLASSIC)

3/27/2006 09:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some may wonder
What’s in a name
What’s the difference
Where’s the shame

What’s the big deal
It’s just a side street
A place to travel
A corner to meet

Well I for one
REFUSE to forget
My Brothers and Sisters
And the families they left

We wear the blue ribbons
In May when we march
To honor our fallen heroes
And St. Jude our patriarch

They died fighting evil
They died for us all
They died during battle
They answered the call

We’ll always remember
You fought the good fight
You stood up for goodness
And all that is right

So don’t dare smear their honor
They live in our hearts
We’re all one in spirit
We NEVER will part

3/27/2006 09:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Vlad said...

ive been ratted out

3/27/2006 09:37:00 PM  
Anonymous leomemorial@hotmail.com said...

To the 3/27/2006 09:22:01 PM Poster:

I honestly did go into it open minded, because, had I not, would have looked like a complete uneducated and ignorant moron making an angry statement.

So I went in open minded and an ignorant person who absolutely hated history class, plus the fact I was born during the year Hampton died.

What I found, reliable sources, even from libraries, floored me. It actually embarassed me.

If you think the above material I listed was bad, it was nothing.

I have withheld even worse information that would make you sick.

No wonder the FBI came up with COINTELPRO.

The irony is I have a timeline of violent acts that goes all the way to 2002!!!!!

Keep the faith to all here.

After doing this research, it made me stronger to speak on behalf of our fallen officers as well as our community.

I just wish I could march with all of you in the St. Judes parade. But, I will be there to see you.

3/27/2006 09:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leomemorial

Take a look at www.preservationchicago.org

You inquired on 5900 S Halsted the 20th ward. Interesting read as you scroll down on the project started and worked on with Coleman. Seems the sec. on Englewood history does not mention Hampton but references 1890's. Looks like their rewriting history themselves. Now how does that sign fit in again?

By the way I was ducking rocks, in those days. :)}

3/27/2006 09:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the idiot that says SCC is patting themselves on the back, HA! No one is forcing you to read their web site. You dont like it dont readit As for you guy(s) at SCC, PLEASE KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK! THANKS FOR MAKING US COPPERS LAUGH WHO APRECIATE YOU!

3/27/2006 09:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leomemorial,

So sorry u asked about 5400 S Halsted a few blks Nrth of 59th.

OFFICER GEORGE NEIL STAR #5116 DIED IN THE LINE OF DUTY IN 1930 ON THE 5400 S. HALSTED, OFFICER NEIL WAS DEFENDING A BLACK MAN WHO WAS BEING ATTACKED.

3/27/2006 10:14:00 PM  
Anonymous leomemorial@hotmail.com said...

You guys (and gals) have me up late at night thinking of us, I'm so disgusted and burning up my computer!

My god, 10:14:27 pm poster, you are right!!!! Read the last sentence!!!!!!!!!

From the www.odmp.org

Patrolman George R. Neil
Chicago Police Department
Illinois
End of Watch: Thursday, May 22, 1930

Biographical Info
Age: 38
Tour of Duty: Not available
Badge Number: 5166

Incident Details
Cause of Death: Gunfire
Date of Incident: Monday, May 19, 1930
Weapon Used: Officer's handgun
Suspect Info: Not available

Officer George Neil died four days after being beaten and then shot with his own weapon.

The men, suspected to be part of an Irish club devoted to attacking blacks, were ordering the victim off his stool at the Back of the Yards diner at 5435 S. Halsted. Officer Neil stepped forward, dressed in civilian clothes, and identified himself as a police officer. Officer Neil lived in nearby all-white Bridgeport. He told the victim that he didn't have to move.

One man threw a stool at Neil while the others beat him. As Neil tried to fend off his attackers, one grabbed his gun and shot him twice in the stomach. They fled in a car.

Neil died four days after the attack. The killers were never convicted.

3/27/2006 10:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hats offtoscc.there is no value in spewing racial slurs. We are all cops and should stick to cop issues. slam all the jagoff bosses as an entity ,not separated by race.

3/27/2006 10:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can you imagine working back in those days, in your own neighborhood?!

On his own time, in his own place.

Back then defending someone even before the days of segration (so imagine how bad the blacks had it).

They jumped him, and he fought for his life, so that another life can go on...

3/27/2006 10:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leomemorial you are most welcome, hate to see a fellow officer forgotten. Time for you to rest now, still found it interesting that Englewood wants to rewrite their history. Money does funny things, huh.
Signed a friendly female cooper.

3/27/2006 10:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Leomemorial

KNOWLEGE IS POWER.....

3/27/2006 10:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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3/27/2006 10:50:00 PM  
Blogger SCC said...

not here you don't.

3/27/2006 10:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I remember an old timer (now deceased) telling me about the night he arrested bobby rush(late 60's-early 70's). He said they were trying to pull over a car with m/b's and evidently the one in the front passenger seat had a bag of pot on him and started emptying it out the window. The only problem was that most of it blew back into the car and into the big fro of the future congressman dogass who was in the backseat of the car.

3/27/2006 10:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Scc What does your comment reference?

1051
I enjoyed that story, brought a smile to my face.

3/27/2006 11:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic i know BUT...

I hear Ricky;s ex Maria is going to get 75% disability !!

is it true and for what ???

She going to collect from our pension for the next 40 years for being a biotch.

I'll hire a private eye im sure the positions she can contort too have too prove she's faking it

3/27/2006 11:45:00 PM  
Blogger Malcolm X's little brother said...

To the initial poster at this thread:

You condemn me for the use of the terms of European-American and African-American. I now have a question for you. When idiots get on here and use racist terms do you condemn them? I do not think so.

Those who slam my terms are hypocrites. They criticize me, but allow racist tirades to continue. other than "lefty," and "Shady," and SCC no one ever lashes out at the racism here.

SCC, you are doing a good job and thank you. I know you probably hate my guts, but you let me and lefty and Shady provide our view. Thank you.

P/S where is Shady? He must have been studying for the sergeant's test.

3/28/2006 06:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the person who posted about the drug arrest -

Yep. I have video/audio I believe, of BP Cleaver, talking about drugs and how Timothy Leary fled the US to Algeria to stay with the Cleaver family (that's sounds funny...)

3/28/2006 06:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is it that the smart States in the U.S. that dont have welfare and tons of free ride programs only have 1% or less black people.

Because blacks are a stigma. And the stigma blacks give a bad rap to the Black families that want to live the AMERICAN DREAM BY WORKING HARD AND SUCCEEDING.

But no ...we have to patronize these low life ghetto rats. My question is...WHY?

3/28/2006 07:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What State is this pray tell. Tell me so I can start packing.

3/28/2006 07:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You condemn me for the use of the terms of European-American and African-American. I now have a question for you. When idiots get on here and use racist terms do you condemn them? I do not think so.

I condemn any racist terms by anyone. However I have nothing wrong with asshole, knucklehead, dickhead, shit for brains, you get my drift.

I'm old enough to remember Negro as an acceptable term for black people. And "colored" was used by black people, but it wasn't accepted. Hell, look at the name of the oldest civil rights organization: NAACP. "C" stands for colored.

Black is perfectly acceptable, as is white or yellow or brown. I've said it before and it will continue to be true, there has been bloodshed throughout Europe and to imply that their is one ethnicity by the use of the term "european american" is bullshit. Same for "african american," as the blacks are the dominate race in Africa, but by no means the only race.

I'm an American, plain and simple. I'm also an asshole at times, as are most people.

I hope that answers your question Malcolm. Have any opinion you like and I'll respect it, even if I disagree, but knock off the "european american" and "african american" bullshit. It's bullshit.

3/28/2006 08:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wi. Az. that I know of so far.

3/28/2006 08:22:00 AM  
Anonymous westside21 said...

to 8:24
You are very funny and very creative - lol

3/28/2006 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THINK BLUE! Not white or black. United we are one powerful group. You know City Hall and 35th does everything they can to keep Officer's separated. You see the powers that be would feel quite threatened if we were on the same page. So again, please we have a huge WHITE SHIRT audience here. It frosts my ass to see ignorant coppers post crap. So please THINK BLUE when posting.

3/28/2006 11:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

S.O.S......... Help the Marine Unit is sinking, and fast!!!!!!!!!!!

3/28/2006 10:27:00 PM  

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