Friday, September 15, 2006

Here Comes the Fallout

  • Prosecutors are dropping more than two dozen "tainted" drug and gun cases following last week's arrest of four Chicago police officers accused of robbing, kidnapping and intimidating drug dealers.

    At least 27 cases have been dropped so far, including a case against two men who were arrested last fall when police seized $15 million worth of cocaine, Cook County state's attorney spokesman John Gorman said Thursday.

We're likely to see at least double this number of cases get dropped. The final number is going to be close to 100 cases and the number of civil lawsuits filed will top 20 or 30. This second article covers one of the more spectacular cases:
  • Last year, Chicago Police displayed $15 million worth of bundled cocaine seized from a Northwest Side home and proudly proclaimed they'd made a major dent in the area's cocaine-dealing scene.

    Wednesday, with a sense of quiet disgust and frustration, Cook County prosecutors dropped the case against the two men charged in the November 2005 drug bust. Based on the quantity of drugs seized -- 118 kilos -- it's the most significant of more than 100 criminal cases that may have to be dropped because they were tainted by alleged dirty cops, a source close to the case said.

Even legit cases are going to be tainted by association and a lot of guilty people will be walking free.

73 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

These four guys have yet to be convicted of anything and the assholes States Attorneys are taking an easy way out. Funny, these same shitbird patronage lawyers would, without hesitation, place a three time convicted felon on the stand to testify on behalf of the state. It's just like George Ryan emptying out the entire death row because he beleived Rodney Porter was innocent! And he wasn't. Fuck Devine.

9/14/2006 11:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How in the hell does it not raise a huge red flag to SOMEONE, ANYONE when no one shows up to court on 118 Kilo's?!?!?!?!?!?!?!? The SA's office should share some kind of responsibility on that one!

These guys were creative...most coppers say the guy dropped a rock. These guys say he dropped a kilo in front of them.

9/14/2006 11:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Funny, I never seen a beef against any P.O. dropped cuz the beefer was a pusshead piece of shit.

9/14/2006 11:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

thats why republicans dont win in ILLINOIS because they all commit crimes

9/15/2006 01:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who's worried about fallout. The FEDs proved that the entire city is corrupt. Even our own Corrupt as hell cook county judges admit that there was a conspiracy to torture blacks into confessions to put them on death row and Daley knew about it and NOBODY WAS EVER PUNISHED. Ya think any of the rednecks (that includes Jesse king of beers Jackson) are worried about real fallout. You think Fat Phil is going to institute real reform. Start imposing standards. You gotta be kidding me. The Feds still don't get it. You need to build a special federal jail just for cook county. Then we can start talking about fallout. I'm still convinced this whole thing (our current SOS scandal) somehow came on the federal radar screen. You know this is the first time since summerdale that crooked county has gone after corruption. (Gregory Becker doesn't count).

9/15/2006 02:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's contagious. Anything it touched can and will eventually cause cancer. It's synonymous to radioactive fallout. We must de-contaminate all cases before there is any kind of cross-contamination. There should be a States Attorney's equivalent to HAZMAT. Tons of dirty mo-fo's are happy about this. Not only are dirty criminals able to have their cases dropped, but it gives their attorneys ammunition to file civil cases against the Officers and the Department for allegations of "False Arrest", "Planting Evidence", "Illegal Search and Seizure", etc...etc..etc...What a f**king mess! I wonder how long it will take to clear up this fallout and how much it will cost the city. This, if any, is the main reason the "G" should have taken this case. Although previous cases would still be tarnished, there is a semblance of disassociation involved where the City and the State's Attorneys Office wouldn't be so inclined to uncover previous cases that these officers may have compromised.

9/15/2006 02:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, the really had no choice. Could you just see if one of those SOS guys was on the stand. Pookie in the joint would look good comapred to what a first year lawyer would do to their bung holes.

Ah, well, we'll get em again, I'm sure.

9/15/2006 06:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I like the part where the lawyer says there is a discrepancy between what the police recovered and what was actually stored there. I was willing to give these guys the benefit of the doubt but not anymore. Fuckem!

9/15/2006 06:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why doesnt someone in the press ass our leaders why it took so long to uncover all this. Rumors have been flying around for at least 5 years. ONE bullshit integrity check would have halted all of this before it got so out of control. Someone was covering for these guys.

9/15/2006 07:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC- did you see the front page of the trib this am? Did these idiots really steal from the Hurley benefit? It puts everything in a different perspective, doesn't it. Does anyone still think these poor guys are being punished for being "the real police"? I hope it's not true, being it's the presss, and all that, but it's begining to look pretty bleak. If it is true.....I hope there is room in the joint where the Bin Ladin's go.

9/15/2006 07:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

After reading an article about the SOS officer who may have ripped off monies from a fundraiser(Friday's Trib)that was a benefit for the Hurley family, this alone if true is more sickening than ripping off a shitbag drug doper. Now this guy would steal from his peers??? GOD I hope this story isn't true.

9/15/2006 08:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What did you expect? The county really had no choice. If they put those SOS mopes on the stand,even a public defender could have a field day cross examining those fools. Same thing happened in L.A. when the LAPD's CRASH unit came under scandal. Like L.A.,the city will be paying out damages for YEARS! Bend over,break out the KY.

9/15/2006 08:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"These four guys have yet to be convicted of anything and the assholes States Attorneys are taking an easy way out."

What is the State's Attorney going to do? Proceed with these cases and bring out these four Officers in their DOC uniforms to testify? They have no choice.

Maybe these four idiots should not have conducted themselves as criminals and these cases would have not been dropped.

It seems to be that the real problem was the Supervision. How could the supervisors not know this crap was going on? The real answer is that they did and condoned it since it was against "shitheads" and the numbers were coming in. These supervisors share a paritial part of the blame of this SOS nightmare.

As for those that blindly defend these goofs, you know what the stories are and can you honestly say they are truley innocent?

9/15/2006 08:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not to be an assh*le, but apparently SOS KH was hospitalized for injuries inflicted upon himself.You be the judge of what he was trying to do. That is why he is not listed under the cook county lock-up but the infirmary.Im only relaying this info to show the seriousness of the matter and to let you all know it's becoming life-threatening. Like those guys or not, their in deep sh*t and need support. Please be careful in regards to harmful blogging. Take care officers.

9/15/2006 10:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Holy shit!!!! The lead States Attorney on the SOS case got arrested in Joliet after he went out to celebrate locking those guys up! He got drunk and beligerent in the casino and motherfucked a bunch of Joliet coppers.

He's been suspended from the State's Attorney office indefinitely!!!!!!! He was the supervisor for the Public Integrity unit. Karma is a bitch!

Looks like there's hope for these guys yet!

9/15/2006 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of the states office attorneys office. Someone apparently dropped a dime on states attorney Scott cassidy for his apparent misbehaving while patronizing the empress gambling boat in joliet. It seems he didn't want to leave when he was supposed to(alcohol) and after being offered lodging, identified himsxelf as a COOK COUNTY STATES ATTORNEY. He was arrested and shown that he was misbehaving in WILL COUNTY, not COOK COUNTY! He has been reassigned. His bond will not be 3 million!!!

9/15/2006 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

rumor is that k.h. is in the hospital after trying to commit suicide.

9/15/2006 11:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WTF? Now it's alleged that JF stole money from that big party to help the family of that copper who died who was assigned to SOS! Man, is there anything these guys wouldn't stoop to do?? JEEZ!

9/15/2006 11:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

At the end of the article it states that 1 of the four officers posted 200,000 bond and was released from crook county jail. Did i miss something, was there a bond reduction for all the guys? If so, i'm very happy for them. Just yesterday i saw on the news that someone was charged with murder and they set his bond at $2 mil, so there's no way these guys bond should've been higher than that. Good luck to the others if they're still in there.

9/15/2006 12:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good luck to all of Sergeants taking the Lieutenant's Exam 2morrow. Many of you have put a lot of time and energy into preparing for this test. God Bless you.

9/15/2006 01:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

did anyone catch the small article in the middle of the sun times today. looks like a big boss in the cook county states attorneys office scott cassidy stepped on his pee-pee after to many drinks at the riverboat and was arrested for Crim tres to land after refusing to leave upon being told to leave. WHY IS THIS NOT IN THE FRONT PAGE!

9/15/2006 02:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These guys were creative...most coppers say the guy dropped a rock. These guys say he dropped a kilo in front of them.

.... from his right front pants pocket.

9/15/2006 02:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just wondering if the top prosecutor for the Cook County States Attorney arrested at the Joliet Casino on Thursday ( Suntimes - Sept 15 2005) had anything to do with the SOS scandle?

9/15/2006 02:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When someone is stripped you can't use them. They get on the stand and have to admit that they are stripped/indicted for this or that. Everything they say to a jury from then on is suspect. They can't win so why waste the money. If you were on the paper, and it was a great totally legit pinch, would you testify to it? Nope. Just setting yourself up to get arrested with the others for false accusations....Ce la vie

9/15/2006 03:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FUCK THE STATE'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHY DON'T THEY THROW OUT ALL THE CASES SCOTT CASSIDY IS INVOLVED IN BECAUSE HE REFUSES TO COMPLY TO A DIRECT ORDER BY THE POLICE TO LEAVE A CASINO BECAUSE HE WAS DRUNK. WELL ALL POLICE R GUILTY BEFORE INNOCENT WHY NOT HIM
BY THE WAY HE IS PROSECUTING 2 COPPERS NOW FOR BATTERY AND OFFICIAL MISCONDUCT FOR THE INCIDENTS ON CAMERA IN THE STORES

9/15/2006 03:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

THATS GREAT GIVE THE DRUG DEALER THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT YOU FUCK HEAD

9/15/2006 03:41:00 PM  
Blogger NorthSide said...

It's widely known that Scott Cassidy of the SAO is a comsummate asshole with a hard-on for coppers, innocent or otherwise.

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9/15/2006 04:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to the asshole that said that because u are stripped you can't testify in court you are wrong. as usual another alleged p.o. is making a blanket statement about all p.o.'s who are stripped. i have been stripped testified because served w/ a subpeona, one case dope another murder, both guys found guilty ( not bragging), it all depends on the allegations and whether they were sustained/ found guilty. the more i read this blog it makes it easier for me to handle the fact that i was "seperated" from cpd.

9/15/2006 04:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To:
Anonymous said...

At the end of the article it states that 1 of the four officers posted 200,000 bond and was released from crook county jail. Did i miss something, was there a bond reduction for all the guys? If so, i'm very happy for them. Just yesterday i saw on the news that someone was charged with murder and they set his bond at $2 mil, so there's no way these guys bond should've been higher than that. Good luck to the others if they're still in there.

9/15/2006 12:43:42 PM

++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The bonds set only require that 10% be posted in order to bail out.

9/15/2006 05:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
At the end of the article it states that 1 of the four officers posted 200,000 bond and was released from crook county jail. Did i miss something, was there a bond reduction for all the guys?
9/15/2006 12:43:42 PM





If you studied arithmitic and law, instead of General Orders and Rules, you would know that ten percent of two million is two hundred thousand.

Bond was not lowered. They came up with the ten percent- JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER PUKE!!!!!

9/15/2006 05:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re: the benefit ALLEGATIONS...Sounds like someone throwing out some shit, see what sticks, maybe looking to this blog for answers. Can't you wait until they prove something before you kick your BROTHERS while they're down?

9/15/2006 05:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Does anyone have anymore info. about the shitbag who shot up the ODPD house that lives in the Ave. J's?

9/15/2006 05:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Straight from a Joliet copper, Scott Cassiday from the Cook County State's Attorney office repeatedly called responding officers rednecks and hillbillies, then told them, " you hillbillies don't know who you are fucking with. I'll own you! I'll own the whole damn town! I'm the most powerful attorney in Chicago right now! Read the papers once in awhile, if you can even read!"

He was then promptly shown who owns who and that Joliet police not only CAN read, but they can even write. An arrest report.

Gotta love it! There were no less than 10 non-police witnesses to this debacle. HE GONE!!!!

9/15/2006 05:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Anonymous said...
At the end of the article it states that 1 of the four officers posted 200,000 bond and was released from crook county jail. Did i miss something, was there a bond reduction for all the guys?.... Just yesterday i saw on the news that someone was charged with murder and they set his bond at $2 mil, so there's no way these guys bond should've been higher than that. Good luck to the others if they're still in there.
9/15/2006 12:43:42 PM"

Since you sound like you aren't the police, here is today's lesson.
A posting of $200,000.00 would be consistent with a two million dollar bond that was set by the judge. If you are given a bond, you only have to post 10%. Two million divided by ten is $200,000.00. An exception would be an I-Bond, also known as a personal recognizance bond.... Me thinks that they are not qualifying for that!

9/15/2006 05:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of stealing money from fellow coppers, does anyone know if sticky fingers Acosta still gets his pension after getting 5 months? What an a**hole!

9/15/2006 05:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is that true.... the head of the Public Integrity unit arrested....well...well...well....they say what goes around comes around.......me thinks you should be careful...guess your shit does stink.........too

9/15/2006 06:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

off topic, but this will probably be the new topic for tonight:

Just watched 6pm ABC7 news on how state FOP along with Chicago FOP have endorsed Blago for governor even though most members are against him. We have no voice.... FOP has failed us again, no surprise!

9/15/2006 06:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I find it very interesting that the long time states attorney and chief of the public corruption unit would allow himself to be in the situation that he was in ...drunk in public...and acting like a asshole...sort of makes you wonder if he can relate any better to the cops he had arrested and charged.....or maybe he feels that they are far worse than he is....after all he was just drunk and being a asshole.....just wondering if he is able to see the irony of it all.......

9/15/2006 06:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey AU he still has MT!

9/15/2006 07:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ITS AMAZING THAT THE STATE'S ATTORNEY'S OFFICE EVER PROSECUTES ANY FUCKING CASE GIVEN THE FACT THAT THEY ONLY PROSECUTE CASES THAT THEY KNOW ARE 100% WINNERS, HEAVENS FORBID THE MORONS SHOULD USE THEIR TRAINING AND LAW DEGREES...... WAKE UP YOU STUPID FUCKING MORONS AND START THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX ON YOUR CASES THAT YOU PUT ON TRIAL....

9/15/2006 07:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am willing to give these guys the benefit of the doubt even though I know three of them and have my own opinion. (Not necessiarily favorable) Remember they are innocent until proven guilty. Having said that, if they stole from the Hurley benefit, and that is proven,then there is no prison too severe for them, and no place in hell too hot for them.

9/15/2006 07:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can testitfy if you are stripped. There is no order against it. I know this from persoanel experience and the only way a defense attorney knows is if he sup's your personal records.
For that matter even the State doesn't know your stripped necessarily.
Callback does not like you to go if you're sent notification and the goof who was down there, a sgt. getting LT pay for covering up timekeepers follies in a district, was a jagoff.
Callback "CCC" the land of Crazies, Cripples, & Criminals.

9/15/2006 08:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SANCTUARY..........The SOS guys in trouble should just go to Slime Colemans latest con, his baloney church, and claim sanctuary. Neither Devine or Daley would have the balls to cross SLIME.

9/15/2006 09:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

CAN'T YOU ALL SEE THAT THE MEDIA COVERAGE ON THESE FOUR IS METHODICALLY PLANNED? FIRST THEY HAVE THEM STEALING FROM THE DRUG DEALERS, NOT ENOUGH TO ENRAGE THEIR FELLOW OFFICERS...NEXT THEY SAY THEY STOLE FROM THEIR TEAMMATES BENEFIT. THAT'S JUST CRAZY!!!! I PERSONALLY KNOW THAT THESE GUYS PUT MORE OF THEIR OWN MONEY AND TIME INTO THE BENEFIT THAN ANYONE. THE MEDIA IS SIMPLY TRYING TO PIT OFFICERS AGAINST THEM. ANYONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THROUGH THEIR SMOKE AND MIRRORS.

9/15/2006 10:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You guys should be aware that Scott Cassidy is the brother of the Detective in A/1 who was caught "lying" is the 007 District homicide investigation involving the 11 yr old girl (name escapes me) and the 2 tender-age boys who were charged with her murder. It might be said that he has a conflict of interest in favor of the police. I'd be surprised if he'd be allowed to represent the State in the SOS case for very long, if at all.

9/15/2006 11:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I noticed the department is offering an FTO test. Anyone have any comments about the lack of FTO's and the overwhelming presence of PPO's in faster districts. Normal partners being split up and forced to be acting FTO's. Comp time denied because to many PPO's on a watch, etc.
Maybe an incentive for FTO's like extra points on promotional tests would help out. Everyone is saying there needs to be more transparency in the testing system, maybe that would be a good first step. Say, 5 years as a FTO adds 20 points on sgt's test. Or 10 yrs as a FTO automatically puts you on the "merit list". At least you would know exactly what it takes to make sgt. or det.

9/16/2006 12:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

re: FOP endorsement of Gov Blago--remember only YOU are in that booth come election day. Vote as you see fit and f the fop!

9/16/2006 12:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im suprised that Dickless Devine hasnt made a statment on dumbass's arrest. Once again Devine has no clue whats going on in the States Attorneys Office.

P.S.
ASA are not your friends, They are people that could not get a job a a law firm and they are looking to hang a copper in second to make a name for themselves.

9/16/2006 01:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO ANON 9/15/06 9:52:42PM

"SLIME"; I never thought of that one, great job!!!
I remember him as an Uptown activist. I believe he's the x-jocker of alder(fill-in-the-blank)Schiller. Was that her seed(son);the lawyer w/the same name that was trying to jam the Police on that westside shooting where the nephew shot the auntie after she called the Police about her house being burglarized?
How's are union doing on charging this lawyer, or at least trying to sue him for false accusations against innocent POs?

9/16/2006 01:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9/15/2006 11:37:44 PM

Her name was Ryan Harris

9/16/2006 06:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

re. 9/15-8:41PM. They used to call that place !Jerry's Kids!.

9/16/2006 08:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So Cassidy will not be prosecuting the 4 SOS guys, their number two guy will and the trial will go forth. Cassidy was drunk and beligerent....BIG DEAL! Most coppers act the same way on a Friday night at their local watering holes. This will not help those SOS coppers one bit. If they are found guilty, every cop will have to live with that burden, Cassidy is found guilty, all you got is one more drunk in a county and city known for its drunks

9/16/2006 09:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

004 has had it's share of media press in recent days. there was an incident where an odpo home was shot up by a m/4 wearing a hoody at 10am. NFD

then yesterday some idiot on pcp attacked a mailman. he was transported to a local hospital where he later died. isn't karma great!!!!

and sadly, the 11yr old who was critically injured the other died from his injuries. the asshole drunk had a bac of almost .30

9/16/2006 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To : 9/16/2006 12:05:03 AM

Your comment on the FTOs being given points for promotional exams was one of the things we were told when they restarted the FTO program in the late 90's. Lots of promises were made, very few of them kept. FTOS are supposed to get a half hour a day to fill out reports on days that they have a recruit. It was always a fight with the W/Cs to get them to sign the slip. Promises were also made that there would be a rotation in and out of the Academy so FTOS could keep up with with the recruit training then go back to the Districts. Also FTOs were supposed to do Roll call training but that never happened. The D2 pay was also a cause for envy from the Detective Division who were also making D2 at he time and thought the FTOs did not deserve it. I remember some of The Dicks in my area not even speaking to me because they were upset that I, a lowly patrolman was making the same as them. The FTO program is just another example of how a good idea can get F-ed up by the Dept and its petty B.S.

P.S.

I am no longer a FTO but I did enjoy it while I was doing it. I was lucky enough to get some real good people for recruits.

9/16/2006 10:50:00 AM  
Blogger dilligaf said...

"Anyone have any comments about the lack of FTO's and the overwhelming presence of PPO's in faster districts. Normal partners being split up and forced to be acting FTO's. Comp time denied because to many PPO's on a watch, etc."

Isn't the 1st time this has happened. In the early to mid 90's almost every faster district was getting 6-9 ppo's on the watch and that was before they retooled the FTO program. As the WC said, "your turn in the barrel, nothing personal...kid." Not saying its right, but look on the bright side, your seniority date does get a boost. Just be careful out there.

9/16/2006 11:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FTO is the only legitmate promotion (if you want to call it that, at least it's a pay raise) on this job. No phone call required. Everything else on this job is bullshit. Being an FTO should be requirement for promotion to Sgt or Det. If you can't train someone then you have no buisness supervising anyone. If you need the extra money take it, but remember you will be treated like a jagoff.

9/16/2006 01:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This department isn't for any kind of professional promotional system. Fat phil isn't going to reform anything. They have this department wired exactly how they want it, and they aren't going to change.

9/16/2006 01:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FTO promotions legitimate? Come on! Some of the biggest dogs in the district took the job last time. We had a drunk, a crazy, a stupid do nothing and a medical roll abuser all become FTO's. No body else wanted it, so they all became FTO's.

9/16/2006 03:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes I too am a former FTO. Yes I did like the job and had a lot of really good recruits. I treated them fairly and they seemed to appreciate the fact that I went the extra mile to help them out - instead of letting them step in shit. But most of us bailed out of the job when our dept told us to go to the "fast" districts. That was a sad day for the CPD. Do they really think that a cop is going to give up the regular car and watch and increase their travel time, not to mention the restuarants the business contacts, girls jogging, etc, etc. I would have to had my head examined in order to leave my district and listen to 35th St. Leave all the good things in life, lose sleep, burn more gasoline for someones bullshit idea??????? Yeh, sure. I don't think anyone really has a fond desire to be an FTO after talking to former FTOs, and thats the truth of the matter.

9/16/2006 04:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well half of u FTOs dont know what the fuck yer doin and the other half dont do shit....the training program is an absolute travesty in this department.... the ppos are better off bouncing around for 6 months, that way, every now and then they might get to work with someone who, dare i say it??.... FUCKING WORKS!!

it is astonishing how clueless these ppos are after their cycles and how little work they want to do. do they teach that in fto school? teach 'em how to write a parker and scratch out a gocr? wtf? they seem scared to do anything...and i guess i can't blame them, cause they havent learned a motherfucking thing!

make fto'ing a desirable position...offer more money, more incentives, make the tests harder and maybe include activity as part of the hiring process.

ftos are people we should look up to and respect. and quite frankly, the only difference between them (most of the ones i deal with) and a typical dog ass copper are two little patches that say "FTO".

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and another thing.... why the fuck when ppos are off their cycles do the ftos get put back on their regular cars sans recruit?? i dont get it. there's a ppo working tonight? put him with a goddamn fto!

9/16/2006 07:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HOW DO YOU GUYS IN 009 LIKE THE NEW W/C ON MIDNIGHTS? I HEAR HE IS A PRINCE?

9/16/2006 09:49:00 PM  
Anonymous The View said...

Hey, anonymous 7:02pm, a lot of what you say actually makes sense.
True enough, when I was a new Sgt. some years ago, I was appalled at some of the people that the W/C had designated as FTO's. One guy in particular was never the Police himself, and did everything in his power to avoid doing ANYTHING. The pay should be increased for FTO's. And when a REAL FTO recommends that a lousy recruit be fired, the Dept. should really LISTEN to him or her. Most FTO recommendations for firing don't ever go anywhere. And placing an impressionable new officer with a piece of crap usually ensures that there will be TWO turds in the car by the end of the training period.
What I don't agree with, "anonymous" is your point of separating the PPO from the FTO after the training cycle has ended. Once your training cycle is over, the PPO should be mixing in with other coppers. Everyone you work with is a learning experience. You will pick up traits that are useful, or attitudes/traits you willl have no use for. It's up to you at that point to filter out the mcuk and keep what's useful.

9/16/2006 10:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is a shame what this department has done to the FTO program. This department should make it worthwhile to be an FTO, How about giving them the 1/2 hour a day every day whether they have a recruit or not. Also how about extra points for promotional exams and a super bid status when vacancies in "good" units open up, such as the marine, mounted unit, traffic etc. and super bid status into more desirable districts if they so choose. Make it easier for them to seperate a recruit that isn't making the grade, also change the mind set of the department so that the input of the good FTO's is listened to. If you did these things the department whould have no problem getting and keeping good competent people as Field Training Officers.

9/17/2006 01:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I RARELY EVER GO TO THIS BLOG, HOWEVER, I DO WISH TO VOICE MY OPINION ON THE HURLEY BENEFIT. I CAN SAY, WITHOUT RUMOR, OR B.S., THAT IN FACT NOT ONE PERSON STOLE FROM THE HURLEY BENEFIT. I ALSO CAN SAY THAT HIS TEAMMATES SPENT HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS OF THEIR OWN MONEY TO HELP HIS WIFE, AND TO THIS DAY CONTINUE TO BE THERE FOR HER. AFTER READING THE REPORT FROM BOND COURT, THE EVIDENCE IS MINIMAL, THEY ARE SEARCHING NOW, LOOKING FOR ANYTHING TO HELP THEIR CASE SO THEY DO NOT LOOK LIKE IDIOTS. WARNING: TO ALL OF THOSE IN S.O.S. THEY ARE SEARCHING, GPING BACK, THEY NEED MORE AND THEY ARE LOOKING FOR ONE PERSON (cpd) TO GIVE THEM JUST ENOUGH. THE MEDIA IS THE MEDIA, DO NOT BELIEVE IT. I WAS AT THE BENEFIT, I KNOW THESE GUYS, AND I AM NOT SAYING THIS BECAUSE I KNOW THEM. I DO NOT KNOW HOW THEY WORKED, BUT I AM GIVING THEM THE DOUBT UNTIL THEIR COURT DATE JUST LIKE WE GIVE ALL OF THESE OTHER JERKS OUT THERE. THE HURLEY BENEFIT, THAT IS JUST TALING IT A LITTLE TO FAR. ALSO, IT SADDENS ME THAT HIS WIFE IS NOW DRAGGED INTO THIS, SHE HAS DEALT WITH ENOUGH ALREADY.
AS FOR K.H., YES, HE IS SICK AND THIS IS VERY SERIOUS, GUILTY OR NOT GUILTY, HIS FREINDS AND FAMILY NEED SUPPORT. HE IS IN TROUBLE AND TAKING HIS LIFE SADDENS ME.

9/17/2006 05:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

we dont need FTOs just good police,dunb ass.FTOs are useeeless.so write about somthing that matters,.I have not met one yet that could find a gun in a gun shop.Im a FTO.SO what get a real job,pretend sgt.Tell a police officer what do do and get your fellings hurt,and then cry..signed,your a asshole

9/17/2006 06:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was around before the FTO system started. New P.O.'s worked with just about everyone on all 3 watches. Those who were sharp learned something from all of them.
What to do,or not do.
The stupid ones were incapable of learning. And the Police Impersonators just B.S.'d their way along for the good salary & bennies. That much has remained constant. The real problem has been that this De[artment has hired WAY too many people who have no business being the Police. The FTO program has been lucky enough to acquire some outstanding P.O's, many average or above average ones, and way too many lazy or incompetent nerds, who only wanted the job because it pays more, and who used either their political or intra-dapartmental clout to get it.
Kind of like every other rank on the job, y'see?

9/17/2006 06:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We all know what they did and most of us know what they were likely to do with their unsupervised shifts, cocky attitudes and lack of spirituality. Being the police is not an easy job and we all know it. We need to rely on each other and other people close to us like our families and spouses. When we pretend like we're too tough to need anyone and we can do it all ourselves we are just asking for trouble. I was once a very tough cop who would never ask for help. I knew everything. I got brought down the hard way. By the grace of God it was not by the police, but I was shamed and degraded. I embarrassed my family and myself. So pray for these brother and sister police officers and pray for that, by the grace of God, it is not you or I because it could easily be. May God bless them and their children and spouses and hold them dear to his heart. May we be forgiving to our own and never forget where we came from, for we walk a very thin blue line.

9/17/2006 10:43:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Got a hold of the indictment and read. it these guys are fucked. JF & KH r going away for a long time. That P.O.S. BR is singing like a bird. Jagoff can do the crime but not the time.

9/18/2006 12:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

that last comment does not make any sense. Mabey that guy was hammered

9/18/2006 11:54:00 PM  
Anonymous The View said...

FTO is not a promotion, it is an appointment. Your rank didn't change, just your payscale and what you do, WHEN you have a recruit. (oh, and I forgot about the neat patch they allow you to purchase for your uniform shirt!) It is probably one of the most important, if not THE most important job on the job, very close to that of Sgt. Because if cops aren't well trained on the street as PPO's, they are of little help or relief to the rest of us. And if they only learn from the worst of us, and perform at that level, then they are a patrol Sgt.'s nightmare, and the citizen's too. It's sad that in the 20+ years I've been on this job that the Dept. still fails to realize this. They want this all important job done on the cheap, and the results are frequently frightening. If they can't find a suitable amount of FTO's to do the job, then put them with a good two man team. Give them a car without a cage, and pay them both the prevailing FTO wage. Sure, it's going to cost the Dept. a little more, but at least during the end of the training cycle, the PPO will know how to do the job. I can recall when we were done with our "ten weeks" back in the day, you were THE POLICE, expected to think and perform by yourself. And guess what? You did ok. If you had a perplexing problem, you called for a car, and an experienced officer came over and helped you out. You rarely bothered a Sgt. Nowadays, Sgts. are called over far too often on routine assignments. We have not instilled decision making skills in our young officers today, and that's a shame, because they'll be the same kind of bosses you'll all be working for tomorrow
(I had to say you all because I'll be retiring soon; good luck to you long termers! No health insurance for retirees after 2013, and that's when the REAL medical stuff occurs, when the years and years of bad hours, stress, bad food, little sleep from working all the side jobs to provide your children with a nice home environment and a quality education begin to take a nasty toll on us!) I think I read somewhere that the average lifespan of a police officer is slightly over 56 years. I guess we're lucky anyone is willing to insure us at all.

9/19/2006 11:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 05:34:07pm -JR on ave. J is my nabor,a maroon caddie with ind. plates was last seen leaving area,they believe a male hisp. wearing a hoodie is the offender,of course if he is caught he needs to go to the ER b4 he hits lockup.

9/19/2006 09:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 08:41:35pm-Yes you can go to court if ur stripped,and if you don't tell the ASA you r a retard because there is a chance the defense might know and if the state gets a surprise like that while you r on the stand you both look like assholes,and callback didn't care about going to court and the only SGT. I ever dealt with at callback was RY, and he was a jagoff and a faker.

9/19/2006 10:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wow! I'm suprised that majority of bloggers support the four SOS p.o's
They are innocent 'till proven guilty, but if there actions are true, why would you support that?
A crime is a crime. Whether it be on you or a criminal. The "four" tainted all the "good" cops' image and what they stand for. I just don't get it. Are there anymore officers who trully believe the ideology of "serve and protect" anymore.

9/21/2006 08:14:00 AM  

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