Sunday, September 17, 2006

Thanks for Proving his Point

Muslims are upset at the Pope for saying that some of the tenets of their faith espoused by extremists are ... well, we'll let you read it:
  • In his speech, Benedict cited an obscure Medieval text that characterized some of the teachings of Islam's founder as "evil and inhuman," particularly "his command to spread by the sword the faith."
Predictably, the followers of the "religion of pieces" howled in outrage:

Protests world wide ... and of course, the exact actions that the Pope was speaking against:
  • Two churches in the West Bank were hit by firebombs Saturday, and a group claiming responsibility said it was protesting Benedict's words.
Wake up people! islam does not mean "peace" as so many apologists on the left of the political spectrum here and the entire continent of Europe want us to believe. islam means "submission," plain and simple. Don't believe us? How about this statement from "the muslim brotherhood:"
  • "We want a personal apology (from the Pope). We feel that he has committed a grave error against us and that this mistake will only be removed through a personal apology," Muslim Brotherhood Deputy Leader Mohammed Habib told Reuters.
They want the Pope to abase himself and submit to the will of the mob. And the sad thing is they'll probably get it and hold it forth as yet another proof of islamic superiority over classical Western thought and civilization. These backassward goat farmers who can't even raise enough food to feed their own people are on the verge of taking the world back into a Dark Ages not seen in centuries.

UPDATE: Chalk up another "victory" for the nut jobs - Pope apologizes just like we suspected. Europe is so doomed.

UPDATE II: And it just keeps getting worse - now the islamists have shot and killed a nun in Somalia. A nun who was the village nurse, who probably never met the Pope and who dedicated her life to helping the poor and downtrodden of an islamic state:
  • Sister Leonella, 65, was shot in the back four times by pistol-wielding attackers as she left the Austrian-run S.O.S. hospital at lunch time after finishing nursing school for trainee medics. Her bodyguard was also slain.
Us or them. That's what it's coming down to.


Anonymous Anonymous said...

If this Pope had balls he would call for a Holy Crusade.No,I'm not Catholic,but would be willing to convert for a noble cause.Western culture has gotten soft and too comfortable,and the demon worshipping Saracens have taken advantage of our "over-civilized"ways.If one thinks that only the left has its head up its ass,do some resarch about the rights close relationships with the shithole that gave us al-quaeda. only modern world leader to try and save his country and people from this cancer was Slobodan Milosevic(God Bless)of Serbia,and his country was destryed and he was persecuted as a war criminal.People need to start learning their history.Islam has NEVER peacefully co-existed with non moslem peoples.

9/17/2006 01:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These men are wonder their women run around with their heads all covered up to hide from these crazy, fanatical men. If I were a peaceful muslim I would be ashamed of these out-of-control frenzied assholes.
Our poor pope better watch his back....wasn't it a muslim who shot pope paul who then showed compassion and forgave his would-be assasin?

9/17/2006 01:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They are Devil Worshippers. Allah is NOT God, he can't be, given the ultimate evil they propagate in his name. He is the Anti-God; the Devil himself, origin and cause of all evil in the world. Nothing they do is good; it is all evil. No
true God would tolerate being worshipped in such a way. If he would, he should Not be worshipped, but reviled. Better to have NO religion at all than to be such a dirty bastard! Everyone should read the Koran. It is a comic book(and not even a good one)when compared to the Bible, the Tao Te Ching, the writings of Confucius, or any of the other major works honored and recognized by the major Religions of the World. "Religion of Peace" my ass! It is merely a Cult of Hate, Murder, and Mayhem, totally without merit to be recognized as anything but GARBAGE! Even the Rat Fuck Rotten Nazis weren't stupid enough to pass off their crazy beliefs as Religion. (P.S. I am not a very religious person, but I know SHIT when I see it!)Do I HATE these M.F's? ABSOLUTELY!! PUT MUSHROOMS ON 'EM ALL!! Jihad your ASS, M.F's!!! Keep this shit up and there WILL be another CRUSADE!!! Comin' ta yer town M.F.!!!

9/17/2006 02:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yo Allah...right here...Grabbin my winkie!!

9/17/2006 04:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Doesn't look like an apology is forthcoming from Pope Benedict.
I guess the Islamic fanatics will just have to bomb more churches in a further attempt to convince the world that all they really want is peace and understanding...

9/17/2006 04:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't be so sure the Catholic Church is going to apologize.
I'm so proud of our (us Catholics) Pope!! There is freedom of speech for you, nothing politically incorrect just the truth. Us Catholics are used to being shit on by our own Christian Protestant brothers out there, Muslims aren't a pimple on our ass.

9/17/2006 04:58:00 AM  
Blogger coldtype said...

This is an easy one SCC. Thanks for the cream puff pitch.

First, there is no "Clash of Civilizations", however, such propaganda is highly servicible to the dangerous ultra-nationalist reactionaries who've driven this nation over the cliff. What animus is there between the Catholic Phillipines and the Muslims of Bosnia? Are the Christian Netherlands gearing up for war against the Muslims of Sudan?

Have you noticed that the Muslims who "threaten civilization itself" just so happen to reside in countries with abundant oil reserves? I sure do. So do they.

Since we're on the subject of threats to peace. Can you name the Islamic country that has invaded and occupied a "Christian" nation in the past 100 years? Can't think of any? That would be because there are none.

How about the other way around? Lets review from the present day.

1. The year: 2003. The US launches an illegal war of aggression against a virtually defenseless third world country (but one possessing the 2nd largest known reserves of oil--no doubt a coincedence) that was not a credible threat to its neighbors much less to the world's hyper-power. Death toll: 150,000+ with many more to come. The country: three guesses.

2. The year: 1953. The country: Iran. The "threat": The democratically elected government of Mohammad Mossedega. Their "crime": nationalization of their oil industry and the redirection of its revenues to domestic infrastructure as opposed to its continued expropriation into the coffers of the US/UK energy corporations.
Solution: Utilize the CIA to covertly overthrow the government and install the Shah--an iconic mass murderer--whose reign of terror would last for 25 blood-soaked years (with critical US diplomatic, economic, and military support).

3. The year(s): 1945-48. The country: Palestine. Without much say in the matter, Palestinians are informed by the British (who had the mandate, i.e owned the joint) that the Jewish Diaspora will be returning after a 2000 year hiatus. Pack your bags. Understandably the natives had other ideas and put up stiff resistance. After all, they had only been in the region for millenia. So the newly arrived Jewish refugees helped them along by ethnicly cleansing the most disirable bits of desert (with critical help from you know who).

Shall I go on? How about the French in Algeria? Or the British in Egypt? or Italy in Ethiopia? Or the British (them again) in Sudan and Nigeria--Muslim countries all.

The overwhelming majority of violence in this so-call "clash of civilizations" has been that of the West, violently attacking the nations of the Middle East--a pattern that escalated after the British discovered oil in the region in 1928.

Oh that's right. How could I have forgotten? It's not about oil. It's about "freedom".

The problem for the neo-con bafoons now running the show is that no one buys the fantasy that the US would be in Iraq bringing "democracy" (at the barrel of a gun) even if that country's primary resource were watermellons and pickles.

Clash of Civilizations? Save it for the comic books. I suspect this "clash" will end when we get the hell out of their countries. Stay safe.

9/17/2006 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Ahmed said...

Screw them and the camels they rode in on!

9/17/2006 08:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Read Londonistan by Melaine Phillips. A great book that illustrates how British society has appeased this element of society all in the name of political correctness/human rights/liberalism. Our government is doing the same thing. What a violent, oppressive and chauvinistic religion!

9/17/2006 09:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


9/17/2006 10:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look for the Catholic Countries of Europe to finally see the light and join with us instead of resisting us over Islamic fundamentalists who hate everyone who isn't a Muslim, aka Infidels.

9/17/2006 11:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The " religion of peace" is the only one whose followers cannot accept criticisim in any form. The Quran requires "jihad" against non-believers and provide only three possible outcomes. 1)Death, 2)conversion of the non-believer to Islam, or 3)Subjugation, which requires paying a tax and being brutally treated yet allowed to practice your faith. The Greeks were under this system for over 400 years under Turkey after the Byzantine empire was defeated. Also the Assyrian Christians in Iraq and Iran were allowed to survive under this system. Any so called "moderate muslim" who decries terrorism is not really practicing his faith as it's supposed to be practiced. The enemy is here and we are protecting him via the FBI and plans to protect all mosques in the event of a terrorist attack on US soil.

9/17/2006 11:29:00 AM  
Blogger dilligaf said...

Glad to see some read the nonsense I post here. My main concern is that this religion of "peace" has never condemned the attacks of 9/11. Not one Mullah has ever lashed out at the cowardly acts these degenerates pulled off. Our own liberal media attempted to placate the masses by force feeding us a whole pile of cow feces and telling we should embrace our muslim "brothers." A religion that preaches submission, conversion or destruction of the infidel (that be us), and that the west is the personification of evil. Real nice, huh? They come storming out of their rabbit holes when an infidel criticizes them and then call for jihad. Nice people. Hey Pope Benedict you may have brought a lamb back to the flock.

9/17/2006 11:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well 4:58am, I was hoping you were right, but alas, the apology has been made.,2933,214184,00.html

9/17/2006 12:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shame on you! You know freedom of speech is not a right reserved for conservatives. When we express ourselves its labled as racism,insensitivity or whatever.

The religion of peace strikes again!

9/17/2006 01:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is maybe the world will see what a medievil scholar stated centuries ago...Islam has contributed nothing to the world except has never evolved....precisely the point is the fanitical howling from the representatives of this so called religion...that has no problem in this day and age killing innocent people in the name of its prophet......the absolute irony of firebombing churches in protest because a Catholic pope quoted from a obscure medievil text citing a belief that Islam was the religion of destruction....... what a farce........nuke these mo'fos

9/17/2006 01:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yeah right when it comes for them to mock and talk shit to the other religions except Islam . . . yes they can and say that they have every right to do so . . . . But when it comes to talk shit about their religion . . . Yeah right they want a public apology !!! Oh M.F. grow up !!!! These fanatics should be hang upside down and gutted !!!! Their mind is so screwed that they don't even know what's reality or fiction !!!! Their women has to come up in arms and kill all their fanatics man and then rule over them and maybe . . . maybe we'll have peace . . . but again because it's by human nature to screw up and make everything complicated on everything they touch, I doubt it if we ever will have peace on this planet.

P.S. I don't hate the religion Islam itself but I just hate theses stupid fanatics who screw up everything and in return innocent people has to suffer.

9/17/2006 01:30:00 PM  
Blogger SCC said...

No clash of civilizations? What are you, blind? Or worse?

Look at Eurabia - the need for cheap labor begets a HUGE unassimilated muslim population that is rapidly overwhelming all vestiges of Western Civilization on the continent. If that isn't a "clash," we hate to see what is.

Animus between Catholic Phillipines and Muslim Bosnia? Maybe you don't read the news but the Phillipines is engages in a giant struggle against an insurgent muslim population that regularly kidnaps and beheads foreigners as well as locals. The Christian Netherlands is under seige by it's unassimilated muslim population or maybe you don't remember Pim Fortuyn or Theo Van Gogh or Hirsi Ali. Go google those names and tell us there iusn't a clash of civilizations.

muslims countries happen to be run by depots and dictators who control the oil wealth and buy lots of nifty weapons systems that are as much for keeping their own populations in check as fighting external threats. But they cannot field a legitimate and credible force outside of their own borders, so they operate through proxies like al-qaeda, hamas and hezbollah. They export terror onto foreign shores, not armies. You're arguement that muslims haven't "invaded a Christian nation" is facetious at best - they've invaded plenty of other muslim, buddhist and hindu ones - you limit yourself to Christian nations only to support your insane arguement.

Illegal war? John Kerry and Hillary Clinton voted FOR the war, remember? The UN Security Council voted FOR action. Defenseless? The second largest standing army in the MidEast (after Iran), launching daily missle attacks on UN sanctioned air patrols in the UN designated "no fly zone" and they're defenseless? And your death toll numbers of 150,000 are unmitigated bullshit - the right side of the blogosphere destroyed that Lancet article in its' entirity months ago - try to keep up here. Anything close to that is by sectarian fighting, not US troops.

1953? You want to know where we were in 1953? Where were you in 1953? How long is the muslim population going to play this victim card? It was a different time. A different world. We supported extremist dictators because they might be bastards, but they were OUR bastards. That thinking and the subsequent policies from that school of thought has brought the world nothing but pain and misery and now the Bush Administration has decided to entirely revamp our MidEast policy that led to this broken down part of the world being the cradle of the new islamofascism.

Ah, here we go with the anti-Jew bullshit. You're a closet national socialist. Listen up, the Jews have been in the MidEast for nigh onto 6,000 years now. They even had a nation years ago. If there was any such thing as a "Palestinian" nation, can you name it's capital city? How about it's main exports? Treaties? Allies? Military victories and contributions to the world body of knowledge? There are none because there is no such thing as a "Palestinian." It suddenly came into being as a district of the British protectorate years ago. There was no ethnic cleansing in 1948 - Egyptian radio told all the Arabs in the area to leave their homes and take shelter outside the borders of the new Jewish state so their bombs would kill only Jews and the victorious Arab armies would secure their property until their return. Too bad the Jews kicked their asses and the so called "Palestinian refugees" have been used as a political football by Arab governments for the past 60+ years to cover for their miserable failures and policies and lies of restoring them to a "state" that never existed.

The French in Algeria and the Brits in Egypt are remanents of the Colonial Era of which the United States took no part! In fact, when Nasser nationalized the Suez, the US forced a cease fire on France, Britian and Isreal and return the Suez to Egypt. So much for American colonial ambitions.

As to democracy at the point of a gun, we suppose your forefathers brought democracy to Japan, Italy and Germany with bouquets of flowers stuck in rifle barrels, right? And we still have troops in all those places 61 years after the war ended. And they scream like little Frenchmen when we try to shut down overseas bases.

You aren't blind. You're deluded.

9/17/2006 02:23:00 PM  
Blogger fillmoreranger said...

cold type asked

Can you name the Islamic country that has invaded and occupied a "Christian" nation in the past 100 years?

syria in lebanon comes to mind while not a totally christian state it was definitly european type secular

9/17/2006 04:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great comeback SCC, to that Coldyke!!!! I wrote blogs ago that we bombed the Christian Serbs to keep the them from slaughtering the muslim Bosnians;and then we got thanked by the muslims w 9/11! So i too say f*ckem; its us or them. I wonder how our American femanazies are going to look w/that scarf around their faces that arab b*tches have to wear(should we lose or surrender).Your response was very professional and I relearned facts I long forGotti. U might be that leader(union wise)that Ive been b*tchen we lack!!Ive got the hatred/rage to take on the liberal ,corrupt media in this city, but not the education to win. Your smart,and ,I, even realize w/your response to coldchump; u would be a danger to the establishment(democraps,FOP,media,the MOB that runs this dept. and likes things as they are.) Watch your back,and for lack of a better example,look what they did to Matt Hale......

9/17/2006 04:48:00 PM  
Blogger coldtype said...

Whew! SCC your response betrays just how far out of your depth you are on a host of fundimental issues. There is so much here for me to dissect that I must beg your patience in allowing me time to prepare a proper response. For now work beckons. I'll be getting back to you real soon. Stay safe.

9/17/2006 06:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Now, now, now . . . boys and girls no need to be too serious and full of hate regarding this . . . . can't you see you both are acting like them and no different from them . . . . listen to yourself, you both sound like that you have the legitimate reason to annihilate each others race. . . . all blind by the hatred that fills in your blood. Tell me what did you prove and attain but agony, pain and hatred which is so common of the human nature with a complex mind to solve a simple things. History is there to serve as a reminder of the past to which we have to learn and benefit from it and not to remember and avenge what ever pain was inflicted. Because of this there won't be peace among us. Everybody thinks that they are better and superior to somebody else and that their way and no other way is the only way . . . .which leads to Power and Control is their final goal.

9/17/2006 06:46:00 PM  
Blogger kateykakes said...

Excellent rebuttal, scc.

BTW, why is it that when cartoons insulting Christians
don't prompt mass riots or call for the cartoonist to be burned in effigy? Why was this not given the same attention as the cartoons that offended the Muslims so much that they carried on like a bunch of savages? I'll tell you why - because Christians are civilized.

I haven't met a Muslim I ever liked, and I highly doubt I ever will. They are full of hate and represent nothing but pure evil.

9/17/2006 06:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TO 9/17/06 06:46:45pm

Spoken like a true liberal!!!

That hatred SCC and myself may have in our blood is what used to called "PATRIOTISM"! Its the same feeling many young men had years ago when an unknown army/navy base was attacked,killing almost 3,000 of our countrymen. That same feeling caused many to join the armed forces and take out the attacker, and 2 more countries that were aligned w/them.I heard alot of uz liberals demanding justice after 9-11; just remember Bush tried, and uz shot him down every chance u got to get even w/Bill's blowjob scandal! All u "View" watching liberal pukes can kiss my ass! How's that for hatred in my blood?

9/17/2006 07:59:00 PM  
Blogger SCC said...

Out of our depth? Dude, we buried you in facts, figures and the historical record. We OWNED you. Anything you might say in response isn't going to addrerss the facts in evidence. It just isn't going to happen. Opinion and interpretation isn't going to change anything we typed.

We live in the post 9/11 world - you, unfortunately, dwell in the world of 9/10. Everything changed and you still want to spout leftist crap from the 60's. Take your "blame America first" and your "we deserved it" tripe somewhere else.

9/17/2006 08:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To you who calls Muslims Devil Worshipers. You have to be the most ignorant person anywhere. Allah is the arabic word for "God"= God almighty=God of Abraham... Father of Jesus. So if Muslims worship the Devil then so do you Idiot!!!

9/17/2006 08:29:00 PM  
Anonymous FUCK ISLAM said...

COLDTYPE STATED "Since we're on the subject of threats to peace. Can you name the Islamic country that has invaded and occupied a "Christian" nation in the past 100 years? Can't think of any? That would be because there are none."

Actually, The OTTOMAN EMPIRE (MONDERN DAY TURKEY) occupied SOUTHEASTERN EUROPE during the early part of the 20th century. About ten years ago ALBANIAN MUSLIMS. Does the KLA ring a bell. (KOSOVO LIBERATION ARMY) torched Churches killed(BEHEADED) CHRISTIANS in KOSOVO. In addition, they had the help from Afgan(MUJEHADIN) fighters who came into BOSNIA to assist there Islamic Brothers. Making Bosnia a prodominantly Islamic State.

9/17/2006 09:12:00 PM  
Blogger Sabian said...

I was raised Catholic. But, over the years that costly private eucation and exposure to the real world has helped me to shape and reshape my belief system. I have had issue with the Catholic Church for many years. Although I am no "Holy Roller" I still have faith. I am not in church on Sunday, or Saturday, but I do make a cameo from time to time. The Pope retracting is a severe blow to the religion my family has embraced and I was introduced to. I am ashamed for Catholics. What about all those saints in the beginning of "civilized time" who refused to renounce Christianity and it cost them their lives?.... No one takes a stand for their beliefs any longer. Well, except these zealots.

SCC brought out an opinion of his. And, that is the problem not only here on this blog and not just with those fanatics. You can't have an opinion any longer. Just can't. Everyone is ready to put a foot in your ass; criticize you; accuse you; and make you the bad guy in all this. Now it's the Pope's fault that these nuts had another reason to act out. And, it is our fault for a lot of other things. Well, I cannot recall ANY muslim country sending help to America on September 12, 2001. I do recall every small Mom & Pop store, gas station, and kiosk suddenly had American flags, "God Bless America" stickers, posters, etc visible at locations suddenly after 9/11. They were all either middle eastern or those confused as being middle eastern or Muslims. Show me one joint today that has any of that American pride going on.....

These idiots did prove the Pope's point though. Too bad he lacked any balls to back things up. I will never give another penny to the Catholic church. What time does Joel Osteen come on?.........

9/17/2006 10:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My Dear Coldtype....I suggest you study History... or perhaps The Islamization of europe By Andrew G. bostom and Eurabia-The Euro-Arab axis by Bat Ye'Or "The Iberian Peninsula was conquered in 710-716 CE by Arab Tribes -originating from northern, central, and southern arabia...massive Berber and Arab immigration and the colonization of the Iberian pennisula followed the conquest- most churches were converted into mosques-it proceeded as a classical jihad with massive pillages,enslavements,deportations and killings-jews and Christians-like elsewhere in other Islamic lands-were prohibited from building new churches or synagoges or restoring old ones-they were segragated in special quarters-they had to wear discriminatory clothing and were subject to heavy taxes-AL-Andalus represented the land of jihad par excellence-every year sometimes twice a year-raiding expeditions were sent to ravage the christian Spanish kingdoms to the north of the Basque regions, or France and the Rhone Valley brining back booty and slaves....many thousands of non-muslim captives wre deported to slavery in Andalusia where the Caliph kept a militia of tens of thousands of Christian slaves brought from all parts of Christian europe....." why is this important??? Because the same Koran that instructed the arabs to conquer kill and the same Koran that instructs them has not changed in all these years...nor has the interpetation........With Thanks to the above authors for their insight

9/17/2006 10:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where did the Pope apologize???
He was " deeply sorry for the REACTIONS of a few countries" ,,,
Good, he's a clever man with words:) and he is still inspired by the Holy Spirit to say what needs to be said.

9/18/2006 12:44:00 AM  
Blogger dilligaf said...

"BTW, why is it that when cartoons insulting Christians
don't prompt mass riots or call for the cartoonist to be burned in effigy? Why was this not given the same attention as the cartoons that offended the Muslims so much that they carried on like a bunch of savages? I'll tell you why - because Christians are civilized."

Because KK, OUR sheep herder promoted and espoused peace, THEIR sheep herder promoted and espoused conversion or death to the non-believers. Pretty simple actually.

9/18/2006 01:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Didn't Christ recorded in one of the Gospels.."beware the Phalse Prophet who will come after me"??

Boy was he not kidding!

9/18/2006 04:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Memo to 9/17/2006 08:25:20 AM
Catch the next flight to Tehran you leftist A-Hole.

9/18/2006 07:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This needs to be read by all who would apoligize for the Popes rmarks...looks to me as if the Pope was right on the money...excerpt from,"Why I am not a Muslim" by Ibn Warraq-
What should we make with these further unfortunate verses from the Qur’an:

*Torment to Non-believers->IV.56
*Only Islam Acceptable-> III.85
* No friends from outsiders->III.118
*No friends with Jews, christians->V. 51
* No friends with non believers->IV.144, III.28
* No friends with parents/siblings if not believers->IX.23
* Fight non-believers->IX.123 * Kill non-believers->IV.89
*Anti Jewish verses->V.82
* God a "plotter"->VIII.30
*Killing Idolators->IX.5
* Idolators are unclean just because they are idolator->IX.28
* Forcing non-believers to pay tax->IX.29
* The Torment of Hell->XLIV.43-58
* All except Muslims/Jews/Christians/Sabeans will go to hell->II.62, V.69
* Cast terror in the hearts, smite the neck and cut fingertips of unbelievers->VIII.12
* Smite the neck of unbelievers->XLVII.4
* Severe Punishment for atheists->X.4 ; V.10 ; V.86
* Severe Punishment for non-believers->XXII.19-22 ; LXXII.23, XCVIII.6
*Punishing non-believers of Hereafter->XVII.10
* Punishing for rejecting faith->III.91
* Non believers go to hell->IV.140 ; VII.36 * Partial Believers go to hell too->IV.150-1
* Sadistic punishments->LVI.42-43
* Punishment for apostates->XVI.106 ; III.86-88 ; III.90 ; IV.137.
* Threat of punishement for not going to war->IX.38-39, XLVIII.16
*God making someone more sinful so he can be punished more->III178
*Intentionally preventing unbelievers from knowing the truth->VI.25 ; VI.110
* Intentionally preventing unbelievers from Understanding Quran->XVII.45-46
* It is God who causes people to err and He punishes them for that->XVII.97
* God could guide, if he chose to, but did not->VI.35
* Intentionally misguiding those whom he pleases to->XIV.4
* Willfully misguiding some->XVI.93
* God causes human to err->IV.143 ; VII.178
* God deceiving humans->IV.142

It is surely time for us who live in the West and enjoy freedom of expression to examine unflinchingly and unapologetically the tenets of these fanatics, including the Qur’an which divinely sanctions violence. We should unapologetically examine the life of the Prophet, who was not above political assassinations, and who was responsible for the massacre of the Jews.

there is no moderate Islam.....

9/18/2006 08:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did the Pope say anything that wasn't true?

9/18/2006 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the islamic dumbfucks are going to take this country back to the dark ages thanks to dumbfuck liberal appeasers like colddyke. these loser raghead motherfuckers worship a pedophile, mohammed was a child molester. if these left handed shit slingers want to the the world to go back to the dark ages i say nuke the entire fucking middle east.

9/18/2006 09:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is part of the popes text which was academic...and which the Islamic fascists promoted as order thrust thenselves into the worlds eye........judge for yourself........
In the seventh conversation (διάλεξις - controversy) edited by Professor Khoury, the emperor touches on the theme of the holy war. The emperor must have known that surah 2, 256 reads: "There is no compulsion in religion". According to the experts, this is one of the suras of the early period, when Mohammed was still powerless and under threat. But naturally the emperor also knew the instructions, developed later and recorded in the Qur'an, concerning holy war. Without descending to details, such as the difference in treatment accorded to those who have the "Book" and the "infidels", he addresses his interlocutor with a startling brusqueness, a brusqueness which leaves us astounded, on the central question about the relationship between religion and violence in general, saying: "Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached". The emperor, after having expressed himself so forcefully, goes on to explain in detail the reasons why spreading the faith through violence is something unreasonable. Violence is incompatible with the nature of God and the nature of the soul. "God", he says, "is not pleased by blood - and not acting reasonably (σὺν λόγω) is contrary to God's nature. Faith is born of the soul, not the body. Whoever would lead someone to faith needs the ability to speak well and to reason properly, without violence and threats... To convince a reasonable soul, one does not need a strong arm, or weapons of any kind, or any other means of threatening a person with death...".

9/18/2006 12:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

World war III is here and now I don't know if this country has the stomach for it any more though. I hope I am wrong but we are in for a long hard fight and losing just isn't an option.

It is only a matter of time until a person of Islamic belief takes out the pope and then everyone will be making excuses about how Islam is a religion of peace and that this its the popes fault. these people hate free speech they hate any type of freedom. A cartoon of mahmoud caused riots and deaths. Van Gogh grandson makes a movie about how Muslims treat women and is murdered. Rushdie writes a book and has a bounty put on his head. People still make excuses

9/18/2006 08:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Iranian Ambassador to the UN had just finished giving a speech, and walked out into the lobby where he met President Bush. They shook hands, and as they walked the Iranian said, "You know, I have just one question about what I have seen in America.

President Bush said, "Well, anything I can do to help you, I will."

The Iranian whispered "My son watches this show 'Star Trek' and in it there is Chekhov who is Russian, Scotty who is Scottish, and Sulu who is Japanese, but no Arabs. My son is very upset and doesn't understand why there aren't any Iranians on Star Trek."

President Bush laughed, leaned toward the Iranian ambassador, and
whispered back, "It's because it takes place in the future."

9/18/2006 11:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Personally,I don't feel His Holliness has anything to apologize for. All he did was quote a mideval text and then give his opinion which was no way anti-muslim. The press has to take alot of blame on this by reporting the Pope's statement out of context. All they did was give the extremists ammunition to excite the mases.

9/19/2006 08:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9/18/2006 08:01:29 AM was only partially correct.

The Bible contains just as many atrocities. In actuality, Atheists are the only ones who don't preach hatred.

9/19/2006 12:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a culture that teaches it's children from the fisrt day in school about the holy war and how to become a Myrtar. Not math and spelling, but hate and death from, day one.

Add to that most marry within their own family even first cousins are ok generation after generation. Kinda like Mt. Greenwood.

What do you get? Shit for brains suicidal little murderes. Who think there will be 40 virgins waitng for them in heaven.

One has to be soft as shit to believe that crap.

Some on needs to tell them the virgins are sheep, but that would be ok by them too.

9/19/2006 08:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nuke the middle east-nuf said

9/19/2006 09:40:00 PM  
Blogger SCC said...

Too long Coldtype

And it barely addressed the issues we hammered back at you. You just added more BS and clouded the original issue.

Interesting read, none the less, but when you start quoting Chomsky, you lose all credibility. The man is demented. We didn't really need the history rewrites, but you're comparing what happened on 9/11 to a completely different era, a completely different time, a completely different world. That world might as well not exist anymore.

9/20/2006 08:46:00 PM  
Blogger SCC said...

And we swim quite well in the deep end. Just because you quote so called intellectuals, doesn't suddenly make you a deep thinker. The water is rapidly draining out of the fever swamps of the left. You've even shallower than you purport us to be.

9/20/2006 08:48:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...



9/20/2006 11:24:00 PM  
Blogger coldtype said...

We'll talk again--on a host of issues. Like I said, my comments were more for your edification than for our brethren. I apologize for the length but when you call me a racist, you call me to battle. I hope we have a better understanding of one another.

As to whether we live in a "new era" that rejects imperialism, well...if it makes you happy to believe it, I won't take away your teddy bear.

The issues that I didn't address we will disscuss in time. Unfortunatly SCC I must work and I don't at present have the time to address the yawning chasm that separates you from reality.

As an aside, I'm putting together my own blog (you've inspired me). Feel free to link up when it's ready.

PS. Bring your life-preserver.

9/21/2006 03:11:00 AM  

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