Wednesday, October 25, 2006

Another Goofy Rumor

Someone is saying in various comments sections that if you fall into this "20 CR/12 TRR" demographic, you won't be permitted a promotion.

We don't even have to consult with our lawyers to realize this would be a slamdunk case for the FOP to win in court. We don't recall this restriction being listed on the sheet we got for signing up for the last Sergeant's exam. For the City to even contemplate changing the rules after the fact, especially in this drastic a fashion, just cries out for a lawsuit.

But we can't sue until someone has been shafted by it.

43 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whatever, SCC. Like they don't give out the answers...i mean questions already. If you didn't get teh invite to the special study group you could have -20 CRs and you still aint getting promoted.

10/24/2006 11:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

how will you even know?

10/25/2006 12:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is what they are saying through out the detective division. At least in Area 2. They mean business. They don't want anyone carried over from patrol that were on shennanigans. Sad, but true. The city will not bargain on this issue at all. Things are changing, boy are they changing. SOS chaos has really pissed off the boss.

10/25/2006 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

and by the time a lawsuit reaches the court, etc.,etc., it will be 99 year old sergeants made!!!LOL.

10/25/2006 12:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The city can and will do whatever they want. Don't want cameras in your car- TOO BAD, How about a live microphone in your squad, monitoring your every utterence. Dont have GPS? Just wait. WC's and inspectors can pull up your every movement from the pdt in their car. What do you mean the wagon or beat car has been sitting stationary from 0300 to 0430? And there is no such thing as a slam dunk for our union. They didnt negotiate anything from our last contract. The ARBITRATOR negotiated everything. How many of you even know how much your union dues are without looking at your check stub? Our attitudes better change because the job is,

10/25/2006 01:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank the Lord that the new rule doesn't include those who like to drink 20 Shots and a 12 Pack.

Poor Lt. Richie Scothchbreath would be stopped at the rank of Lt. and no new merit promotions the "Lt. Shakes"


I guess he could winghis way down to 19 Scotch-a-roos and only 11 Beers. But what a grouch he would be!

Any truth to the fact that he painted his beer cooler black and mounted it between the front seats to make it look like a large P.D.T.?

10/25/2006 02:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you think the fop cares if you get promoted or not? They could careless. It would take them years to even get a case put together!

10/25/2006 07:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's time to go on strike people!!!! No, don't miss work and go picketing, you will get fired for that. The only thing we are required to do on this job is to respond to our calls in a timely, professional manner, THAT'S IT!!! Parkers, didn't see any, Movers, didn't see any, Curfews, everyone of them said they were 17, Dope, what dope not in this city, Man with a gun, let him shoot whoever he was looking for then do the report, hey that guy won't be filing any more CR's on anybody. Point is, this city doesn't give a flying rats ass about you, why do any more for them than you have to, they won't put anything more in your check for it and at the rate they're going, you may just one day lose yours when the decent joe assbag complains. STRENGTH IN NUMBERS people, next month's activity, 0's across the board.

10/25/2006 08:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Da Mayor" is going to endorse the "Toddler" today!

Wow, I must do as they say?

I will vote early and often as directed..

10/25/2006 09:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In an earlier thread, someone inquired about applying for Australian (dual?) citizenship. As it stands, you can visit Australia for up to six months as a U.S. citizen.

Unlike the U.S., immigration requirements are strict and the Australian government will not tolerate guilt-ridden "liberal" bullshit.
See www.citizenship.gov.au

Be sure to obtain Forms 1027i and 124.

At the risk of appearing less than patriotic, our once great nation is irreversibly doomed. Just one lengthy visit "Down Under" will explain.

Aussies are the friendliest, most fun-loving folks on planet Earth. Unlike the rapidly declining quality of life (among other things) in the USA, "the asshole factor" in Oz is virtually non-existent.

"NO WORRIES, MATE!"

10/25/2006 11:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AND THE HITS JUST KEEP ON COMIN!!
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Chicago cops caught in sting

By Jeff Coen
Tribune staff reporter
Published October 25, 2006, 11:00 AM CDT


Two Chicago police officers were arrested this morning and charged with conspiring to steal cash from a storage locker they thought was being used by a drug dealer, federal authorities said.

The cash actually was placed by FBI agents and investigators with the Chicago Police Department Internal Affairs Division.


The officers, Richard E. Doroniuk, 30, and Mahmoud Shamah, 27, were to appear for a court hearing this afternoon at the Dirksen U.S. Courthouse.

The officers allegedly used information given to them by a third man to obtain two search warrants for a pair of storage facilities on Grand Avenue over the summer, prosecutors said. They allegedly failed to report any seizure from the execution of the first warrant executed in June, prosecutors said, and only a portion of what they took in a second incident in August.

In total, the men are accused of conspiring to steal more than $31,000.

Prosecutors said both officers were assigned to a 22nd District tactical team. Doroniuk has been a Chicago police officer since January 2000, and Shamah since August 2001, prosecutors said.

"This joint investigation by the Internal Affairs Division and the FBI should send a clear message to the public and to the Department's 13,600 honorable men and women that officers who violate the public trust will be held accountable," Superintendent Philip Cline said in a prepared statement.

10/25/2006 11:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I just heard the Feds locked up an entire tact team from 022 this morning for Home Invasions! I hope it's not true, but its coming straight from the District. When are people gonna learn?

10/25/2006 12:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

just read on the tribune about the two 022 tact officer caught in a sting...what a disgrace

10/25/2006 12:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anyone know these two guys from 22 that pinched today? Fucked up

10/25/2006 12:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

what happened with the guys in 022 and the 3 guys getting dumped in s0s?

10/25/2006 12:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Gee, Osama Obama admist drug use, now isn't that a surprise?

10/25/2006 01:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two more morons caught today. Wake up people.

10/25/2006 01:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More rumors eh? All you working coppers out there worried about the 20 CRs rule, OPS, IAD, TRRs, recent SOS scandal, exam results, etc, are going to give yourselves ulcers and other medical problems! Come on-the job is fun! Do you really care whether or not you get promoted? If you enjoy creating hate and discontent amongst drug dealers, thugs and gang bangers, then hell, that is promotion in and of itself! Your peers know what you've done and where you've been and that is all that should matter.
If you honestly love being a police officer, then the possibility of never leaving Patrol Division should not even faze you.
Do I recommend taking promotional exams? Yes. Should you get all furious when you are passed up? No. Hell no! The key is to never give up and stay positive. Keep doing what you love and don't worry about whether or not the bosses will notice. Do the job because you love enforcing the law.
Your peers are all that matter. If you are labeled as a dog-ass or medical abuser, then something should make you feel inadequate at being a police officer. You are failing all of us. Your peers know the truth of your actions. They will never forget the cowardice or heroism displayed.
Bottom line, if you are afraid to physically rough up a violent offender because of CR allegations and TRR nonsense, then you should work in a white collar field.
Policework is about doing the job others fear or cannot do. It's about separating the good from the evil. It's about dedication and honor from the days of Sir Robert Peele on...
It's courage and distinction among the ranks. You either have what it takes to work the street or you don't. You either possess intestinal fortitude or you do not. You cannot lie to yourself.
I proudly work the 3rd Watch in 009. There isn't a copper on that Watch I wouldn't back-up or die for if need be. I believe they are professional and express the utmost espirit de corps. I have chosen to love this career and all that it has to offer. My peers are the reason why I police the way I do. My peers are the reason why I NEVER allow an offender to get the upper hand on a fellow officer. Aggressive? Sure, sometimes my reputation precedes me, but honestly, there isn't a beat officer or gang officer in 009 who won't agree that on a 10-1 they are relieved when I arrive.
I will go toe-to-toe with the baddest offender(s) out there to protect my fellow officers. I believe in preserving the ideals of the Thin Blue Line. I love this profession and what it entails. I will take my assignment and ride with whoever I am partnered up with for the night without bickering. I am genuine in heart and word and I will ensure we both go home safely. I am your brother out there. We will survive any and all obstacles. I truly am honored to be serving this City and to have served Our magnificent Country. I work in the 009th District-Deering and am damn proud of it! It is my dysfunctional family. Operative word being "family." Yes, I believe these men and women are my extended family.
To the working officers and dog-asses out there who take offense and may or may not become my boss someday-Lead, follow or get the hell out of my way!

Lastly, May God Bless the families of the two slain surburban police officers and remember to SUPPORT OUR TROOPS...

-009th District officer

10/25/2006 01:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They want to play? We can play. Continue doing your job. When you have to put hands on somebody, fill out the T.R.R as required. Document all injury. If you fall on your knee, rip your pants and hurt your hand, FILL OUT THE T.R.R. & the I.O.D Report. Even if your not hurt to the point that you will miss a day, who knows, just because you hurt your hand doesn’t mean your knee wont hurt the next day. Document everything. If you rip you pants going to the ground, your knee might be hurting the next day. If your glasses break or uniform rips, your going to need replacements. Time to find a slip and fall Lawyer to sue these basterds. Even if all they have is S.S.I, were entitled to it. You know damm well, if you have a house or money in the bank and they sue you, your gonna loose something. We work hard for our money.
Yes many of the mopes we deal with on a daily basis don’t have anything, but they have SSI. Our money paid to them to milk the system. Time to get it back. There is no reason why we cant put a lean on any property, savings or income they have. Sending mope to jail isn’t enough. I was out for three months last years because I messed up my knee and wrist. Yes the department paid my medical, I was IOD and continued to get a check, but I couldn’t enjoy my vacation, couldn’t fix some of the house that needed fixing, could,’t mow my lawn and could hardly wack off because of my injury. So why shouldn’t we be able to file a suit and collect like they would and do.
If they file a racist beef just to try to get even for getting busted and held accountable for there own actions, time to file a defamation of character suit. Lets see how well out FOP legal benefits work or hire somebody.
Call me crazy, goof, idiot, who cares. Im getting what I deserve.
You know what really sucks? I want to vote DALEY out of there so bad, Im willing to vote for one of those racist contenders. Gotta choose what the best of two evils. That sucks.
Two years to retire and im out of here... OOORAAA

10/25/2006 01:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well lets say you try and get promoted by management and you fill out that worthless resume the commanders tell you too fill out guess what the deputy chief is goin to DO shit can yours out of the 2 picks a district commander hands in because of the cr numbers. lets not forget their is not set criteria for picking management so you would never know if you were not picked due to the cr number. Remeber you need to think out of the box on all these promtion matters.
oh I forgot your alderman will ask you how your record is too if you are deemed a risk it is not likely the alderman is going to make that call. Don't ask me how I know because if you have to ask you are to naive to understand.

10/25/2006 03:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OFF TOPIC
CITY HAS JUST PROMOTED E.T'S IS THE F.O.P GOIN TO PUT IN GRIEVANCE FOR LOST WAGES DUE TO THE CITY PLAYING LOOSE AND FAST WITH BUDGETED MONIES....

10/25/2006 03:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More coppers under arrest for thievery !! 022nd dist !! Run for cover !!

10/25/2006 05:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, if you were smart and one of your constituents had any proof, any small proof that might survive a motion, there might be something that could be done in terms of injunctive or declaratory relief. I don't have the text of your contract in front of me but it is unlikely that you would be barred from this sort of relief-even if you had to use ADR prior to any conventional court procedure.

10/25/2006 06:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

anyone hear of a rumor about 022 tac team getting scooped up by fbi for stealing 30 grand in a set by the feds? i hope this is not true.

10/25/2006 06:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

off topic r those 2 fuckheads in 022 serious....This job is filled with CLOWNS... FUCKING CLOWNS

10/25/2006 06:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC~
This may be a good topic by itself... at least two people who work for the cleaning company, contracted by the cpd, and worked in the 004th dist., were arrested by the Feds for illegal immigration. I'm sure I don't have to go on about the Homeland Security implications with this.
Hopefully the media will pick up on this.

10/25/2006 07:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Two more officers nailed via informat and FEDs suntimes online. Their from tact in 22. Just caught story. What were they thinking
(we have to be smart?) The old storage locker trick set up via FED's. Money is missing their on tape.

10/25/2006 10:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry but off topic:
Slightly relevent?

RULES OF LAW ENFORCEMENT


Narcotics units
Immediately grow facial hair, tell everybody you were ordered to.
Start watching every episode of Monster Garage.
Buy a biker wallet with a big chain.
Make every case involve overtime $$$.
Buy bunches of boats, RV's, and motorcycles with that overtime.
Learn to play golf drunk.

SWAT units
Wear team T-shirts, Oakley sunglasses and boots everyday.
Try to fit the word breach in to every conversation.
Have a mirror handy to check hair, if you have hair.
Never say hello to anyone who is not an operator, just practice your SWAT
head nod.
Subscribe to Soldier of Fortune and Muscle and ! Fitness .
Learn to play golf wearing a gun.

Community Service units
Hate SWAT.
Work to make everybody love you.
Paint your office in pastel colors.
Think Feng Shui.
Subscribe to Psychology Today.
Learn to play miniature golf.

Traffic units
Write tickets to EVERYBODY.
Spend every weekend cleaning your bike and polishing boots.
Annoy everyone on the radio calling out your stops.
Talk about nothing but how many tickets you wrote in one day.
Ride by a building with big windows to see your reflection.
Golf is lame, motor rodeos are cool.


Administrative Units
Three-hour lunches everyday, tell everybody it's a meeting.
Upgrade department cell phone every month.
Tell everybody you are published in a national law enforcement magazine.
Update your revenge list on a weekly basis.
Golf Rules! Play lots of golf.

Patrol Units
Has nerves of steel.
In a terminal state of nausea from department politics.
Inability to keep mouth shut.
Has defining tastes in alcohol.
Is respected by peers.
Beats the crap out of his caddy on any bogeyed shot.

Detective Bureau
Solve no crime before it's overtime.
Learn to play golf while on duty.
Develop important leads for cases somewhere near home right after lunch.
See how far from city you can actually go to lunch without getting caught.

10/25/2006 10:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How come on the Academy website they have pre service Detectives training listed. Is there a secret class of detectives in class right now?

10/25/2006 10:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

it's who you know or who you blow-that's the chicago pd way everyone knows that

10/26/2006 01:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 10:10:48

E X C E L L E N T

10/26/2006 05:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hopefully the coppers from 022 with their college education were able to count to $30,000.00. The job has more fuck-ups today than my over 20 year career can recall.

10/26/2006 05:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Be careful out there! Policemen getting ambushed! Don't let this CR & TRR make you hesitate. Remember YOU WOULD RATHER BE TRIED BY TWELVE THAN CARRIED BY SIX!!!! Rest in peace my brothers.....

10/26/2006 10:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

nice going 022nd dist coppers. how the hell did u get into 022 in the first place? hope it's not true-but if it is- rot in hell with all the other dirty cops. whats going to happen to the lt, sgt, and other cops that when on the search warrant with these idiots?

10/26/2006 11:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11:44 AM

On this job in this city, I despise most of the bosses and politicians far more than the worst scumbag felons I lock up.

Liberal Democrats are the enemy within this polarized nation. You are witnessing the Great Decline of the USA.

I'd take snaring crocodiles in the Australian Outback to the CPD anytime.

I'm currently engaged to a wonderful Australian woman. Three more years and I'm "Down Under".

I can't wait to "celebrate diversity" with the kangaroos. They're more intelligent than the American electorate and media combined.

May God help the self-imploding USA!

10/26/2006 01:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some of you still don't get it about the bullshit education requirement.

There are high school grads OTJ job who possess a genius IQ while some of the so-called college educated are morons.

Generally, I'd take a rookie OTJ from a blue collar family out of Sts. Rita, Ignatius or Pat's over a 60 credit hour imbecile from a city junior college.

10/26/2006 03:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

U.S. government, take note.

Some Islamic clerics in Australia claim that their religion supercedes the laws and culture of the Commonwealth of Australia.

Prime Minister John Howard's response with overwhelming support from the Aussie electorate:

If you can't abide by the laws, language and customs of the Commonwealth, it's time to leave.

U.S. TRANSLATION: Grab the next fucking flight out, you seditious pieces of shit!

10/26/2006 03:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To the 009th District Poster at 10/25/2006 01:36:42 PM .....

Well Said!!!. Nice to see some people still get it. You made my day, Stay Safe.

10/26/2006 09:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

009th District officer,
You have yet to become jaded or cynical towards the job, but it will happen...Your belief in preserving the thin blue line is ridiculous!
Cover your ass and remember nobody will bail you out of trouble. Sorry you are lost in a fairy tale, but CPD and it's bosses will destroy your dreams. Trust me.
Seem like a decent cop? Too bad you will have your dream crushed.
You are foolish for thinking your peers in 009 will be there for you. They won't and you will suffer like the rest of us.
The city crushes officers like you all the time. You have a good outlook. Somebody will take that from you. Oh well. You will learn soon enough...especially working in 009. Tough luck kid!

Non-dreamer in 007

10/27/2006 12:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:36:42PM
Nicely put! It's almost a year now, so when are you coming back to Midnights? Officers are asking if it is your writing? I tell'um most definitely. Then I tell'um it's your way of thinking too. God Bless Ya! LOL...Glad you ditched the shades.

Love the hate and discontent line...You rock!!!!

10/27/2006 01:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

12:28
Hey Non-dreamer! No boss will ever break the spirit of this guy! Very different. Seriously.

10/27/2006 12:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My morale is great. I love the job. I don't cry and whine like most on here. I'm an adult with 4 kids. Tuitions are hard but I do it. It's worth it to keep them out of public schools wich are little more than zoos. I work a beat car in a busy Dst. I dont have any clout and dont'expect to ever have any. So what! I joined to be a policeman. Not a supervisor. Some I work for are fools and some are good. Cline's better than the last two Sups. My kids whine less than most on here, Grow up, it's a job. It pays well, it's interesting, and most on it are really fine people. Nuff said.

10/27/2006 10:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To 10/27/2006 10:38:24 PM,

Glad to here your happy with less and have little or no need to compete and advance yourself for your own self esteem, or for the economic improvement of your life and four children. For the rest of us we too enjoy our job and feel we'll be more satisfied with a much deserved promotion based on our rank order. We're pissed. Daley is responsible. Hope he chokes on his corned beef and cabbage. Oh, and I'm a boss off the list whose promotion to both dick and sgt. was deferred due to the merit system. I'm moderately happy about my station in life but your Pollyanna attitude makes me think you're in therapy and on psych drugs. This job does suck.

10/29/2006 11:22:00 AM  

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