Wednesday, October 04, 2006

From the Comments Section

This rumor posted within:
  • Effective immediately, all P.O.'s that have (20) C.R.#'s in a 5 year period will no longer be allowed to work tact/gang
OK, we know you can't believe half the crap that gets posted in our comments sections. You'd be hard pressed to believe even a third of it some days. Can someone somewhere verify that this is an actual policy change about to be implemented?

Because we know that Tact and Gang teams in certain Areas are going to be gutted by 20% or more of their manpower should this be true. And that includes a bunch of Sergeants in some of the "working" districts, not to mention specialized units.

76 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHAT DOGASS DESK JOCKEY CAME UP WITH THIS IDEA?ACTIVITY WILL TAKE A DIVE AND PEOPLE WILL BE BAILING OUT OF GANG/TACT UNITS.

10/03/2006 11:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SOS runs wild doing stick ups & home invasions and Patrol pays the price. Typical CPD logic.

10/03/2006 11:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic:
I just read an article about the police departments in Nassau County New York. Their retirees are getting and have bee getting free health insurance for life! This was negotiated by their unions. Time to dump FOP- F#$K Our Police and get one of their unions.

10/04/2006 12:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It is the new lazy rule. OPS and IAD are getting tired of the heavy case loads. Even they do not want to work any ahrder than the rest of us.

10/04/2006 12:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Back in the Day,............
I would get sometimes 5-10 CR#'s in a month or two and go 3 months w/o one. I have had over 50 CR#'s and not one has been sustained. I have made over one thousand arrests in my 15 yr plus career (10 yrs in gangs). This makes no sense, but then again this Dept. has never made sense. Maybe this is a rumor, but if it ain't who the hell are they gonna get to work Tact/Gangs ??????

10/04/2006 01:32:00 AM  
Blogger soxfan72 said...

If a copper has 20 sustained beefs over a five year period, the officer in question's commanding officer has to make an official argument to keep you in the unit or on the team

10/04/2006 02:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How about havin SUSTAINED CR's? If some shitball wants to fabricate a beef cuz you locked him/relative up, Y should this eliminate the workin copper. Werkin coppers get CR's, that's a fact of life. How many chicks on the DESK get cr's? (You know the one's that call in cars for a female search.....) LAME!

10/04/2006 03:31:00 AM  
Blogger SCC said...

If a copper has 20 SUSTAINED beefs within a year as you are saying, he or she is doing soomething wrong. Very wrong. They definitely shouldn't be the police. They are giving everyone a bad name.

They'd be missing numerous paychecks at the very least - there can't be a cop on this job that has 20 SUSTAINED beefs in their career. They'd have been launched long ago

10/04/2006 07:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Any PO in a WORKING district will automatically be excluded.

10/04/2006 08:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I know this off the beat and path but. I'm Driving to work and there are two (2) eeomc traffic aids ON GRAND AVE. directing traffic for the new WALMART what the fuck is up with that ?? is WALMART PAYING FOR THIS ?? something aint right. WALMART SHOULD PAY AND IS ALWAYS DONE THAT THE NEW MALL OR SHOPPING CENTER PAYS FOR NEW TRAFFIC LIGHTS TO BE PUT UP. wonder why WALMART IS SO BIG

10/04/2006 08:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nobody has 20 sustained cr's

10/04/2006 09:38:00 AM  
Blogger Disgusted in Area Five said...

I heard that "Phat Phil" conducted an Exempt Meeting last Friday, which started at 1800 and ended at 2100.

This was discussed at the meeting.

"Phat Phil" also accused unknown Exempt Members of being disloyal to him and if they do not get in line they will be demoted?

10/04/2006 09:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If a copper is keep on getting CR's every now and then, then he has a problem in handling or interacting with people. or maybe he has that "I FEEL THE POWER WITH IN ME" and he has that abusive trait. You make us look bad dude. And it doesn't really neccesary mean if you have more CR you work harder. It means you have to evaluate yourself.

10/04/2006 10:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i have almost 6 years on the job so by any means im not saying i know it all because i know very little if i know anything..... but i do know what works for me and believe it or not i do not have one cr in six years. and dont give me the "your not the working police because i am on tact. and get between 15-20 arrests a period. its funny because a lot of times the people i arrest walk to lock- up with a smile on their face. there is no need to make this job personal i treat everyone with respect unless they cross the line which very few do. there is no need to mother f#@% your arrestee. some of these coppers and even on my own team once they make an arrest they think they are johnny bad a%% and they want to talk to their head like he/she is a piece of shit. let me ask what do you get out of that? as long as me and my partner are going home thats all that matters.once in awhile my partner and i get worked up and start arguing with a prisoner while we are transporting them to the station and we normally stop half way there and ask ourselves ....why are we arguing with this person? there is no point ? and that is the extent of it. its a job 8 hrs? these gurus who are tackleberries carrying their guns around to a ballgame or even to mow their lawn.... who sit at a bar and talk about all there arrests. dude thats pathetic. its like a accountant or trader sitting around and telling all his buddies how bad azz he is and how many numbers he crunched. listen nobody cares about your stories. unless its a funny story something very comical and unique i do not talk about my arrests to anybody. whats the point self gratification? lets be realistic who wants to hear that? its like a basketball player that had a good game and he goes around telling everyone how many points he scored. how many times have you been on an arrest and someone comes up to you while your trying to do your paper work and ask "what you got man"? i always say treason or bigamy. get the fu%# out of my face let me do my paperwork so i dont have to sit in the station any longer than i have to and if you really wanna know so bad what i got go to your car and E>D> me on the pdt. i have worked with people who have had many cr's and working with them for ten minutes i see the reason why. just got we are the police doesnt mean we are better than people and can talk to people the way we want. yes some deserve to be treated like shit and belittled but those are far and few between. many coppers get into the mode of talking to everyone like a piece of shit. listen as far as im concerned we are little pawns for the city. we make shit money. and there is no need to make this job personal or make it our lives. so do yourself and everyone else a favor. quit bitching and look in the mirror and ask yourself how you could make this job better for you and your family. fu#@ the city fu$@ the bosses. how can you make your life easier. as long as the pay check is there the 1st and the 16th thats all that should really matter the shit in between should be gravy. why get grey hairs mother-fu#$in evryone. smile and kill em with kindness. believe me people think you are nuts when you are always smiling and that nothing bothers you. but are you nuts? or are you really the genius?

10/04/2006 10:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The rumor is true. Three dumped off the tact team in 006 on Tuesday for having 20 CR's (just complaints) over past five years. Wait till word gets out on the street. You don't think the "citizens" will use this to get gang/tact off their backs.

10/04/2006 12:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What I cant get dumped from tact I just bought a bunch of calvin klein jeans when will I get to wear them, not on the watch besides can i still arrest people on the watch or do I just 19p everything and do case reports

10/04/2006 01:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nooooooooo I can´t get dumped please Phil say it ain´t so if I am not on tact this means I won´t be able to tell any tact stories at Dugan´s to people who don´t care and think I am a total loser for not having a life

10/04/2006 01:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10:56

Very well put sir.

10/04/2006 01:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wake up people! The department is no longer backing you up. My recommendation is to used the department and get a higher education and have them paid for it. Anyone can go to tact/gang, but really how many of the tact/gang personnel have an actual skill? A unique skill that can help you find employment elsewhere. In my five years in the department I achieved an second Bachelor's, Master and now on the way to Law School. Face it if I can do a single parent and going to felony court 3 times a week so can anyone else. Time for a change! Dont rely on this job!

Female Copper always working

10/04/2006 02:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

People aren't necessarily being dumped for obtaining more than 20 CR's in a five year period, but they are being called in and counseled (supervisor will complete a Dept. counseling form). They are also being placed in the Behavior Alert System.
It's unfair, because officers who go the extra mile, stopping cars, searching bad guys, their rides, and their residences, receive the majority of beefs. You will likely see many defections from tact/gang teams, and other specialized units that frequently have contact with the more violent citizens out there. And of course, the bosses need those kinds of officers out there to get things done when they are contacted by their bosses in need of "police action." Who will be the real police now??

10/04/2006 02:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can't we bring out another list of really bad bosses again? There are so many to list.

10/04/2006 03:06:00 PM  
Blogger anon ymous said...

Hey 6 year wonder. You realize that this is a serious job you took. I'm glad I'm not your partner. IF your only working for the 1st and 16th then maybe you should have been an accountant. When the gunfire starts I'm sure we will find you running the other way. And as for the coppers wearing their guns everywhere, maybe its because they take their oath seriously and you shouldn't make look down upon them for that. I wear my gun everywhere too simply because you never know when you will need it. Shit can break out anywhere and at any time. Being the police you should realize this. I'm not saying that i'm going to be jumping out of my car waiving my gun around at a jaywalker but sometimes shit finds you. I was at an ATM machine in my neighborhood(016) and some dude walked up from behind me and started to ask me for money. He started saying the types of things that I have written on a GOCR before. I drew my coat back and showed him my badge and gun. And that ended that discussion.

10/04/2006 03:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To: 10/04/2006 10:56:50 AM says

>> its funny because a lot of times the people i arrest walk to lock- up with a smile on their face. there is no need to make this job personal i treat everyone with respect unless they cross the line which very few do.

But yet he talk about coppers....

>>how many times have you been on an arrest and someone comes up to you while your trying to do your paper work and ask "what you got man"? i always say treason or bigamy. get the fu%# out of my face let me do my paperwork so i dont have to sit in the station any longer than i have to and if you really wanna know so bad what i got go to your car and E>D> me on the pdt.<<

So does this mean you are nice to the shit heads and mean to your co-workers???

10/04/2006 04:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Female Copper always working

10/04/2006 02:03:32 PM

After reading your post, I find it hard to believe that you even have the required 60 hours to get on this job.

10/04/2006 05:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OFF TOPIC!
But I just got word that a PPO from 018(?) hung himself. Anybody know about this?

10/04/2006 05:08:00 PM  
Blogger Mr. Donut said...

I heard it only applies to units, not district gang or tact teams.

I heard this cheap ass city is actually flipping the bill and putting gps in every citywide car.

I heard that yet another incompetant female black citywide dispatcher was having one hell of a day yesterday. She wouldn't turn her volumn up the whole tour even after complaint and complaint from coppers on the street. She snapped at coppers asking for plates and namechecks. She critisized a copper for calling an emergency on the radio stating he had just witnessed a 2 car collision right in front of him and one of the vehicles flipped over "3" times and the driver was trapped. I think that justifies breaking in on the radio with an emergency. She also got flustered when coppers were chasing a dope dealer and yelled out ON THE AIR "If You Don't Have Anything To Say Regarding The Foot Chase - SHUT THE FUCK UP!" Wow, aren't we lucky to have such a fine, dedicated, professional dispatcher working on CITYWIDE 1 AFTERNOONS. Shouldn't a boss write her up and get rid of her? I heard she got dumped from another zone because of her ignorance and incompetance..

Stay Safe Out There & Watch Your Backside!!!!!

10/04/2006 05:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

in regards to 1056am.RELAX. ive only got six years on myself and i bring in some good numbers but i still look at what other people have just for the simple fact that i want to continue to learn not cause i give a fck what u do. good paper means more court dates $$$$$. at the same time ive worked in the ghetto for six years and have handled alot of crazy sht so if someone wants to see the paper and learn feel free. ps sounds like ya got some anger built up.

10/04/2006 05:30:00 PM  
Anonymous disgusted with disgusted said...

Hey Disgusted in area five ,

You must be one wired MF'r . Is there anything you don't know. Me thinks your a Fucking Moron. Is that true ? Why don't you go play with your GUN !!!!!

10/04/2006 06:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amem! I couldn't of said it any better myself.

..... but i do know what works for me and believe it or not i do not have one cr in six years. and dont give me the "your not the working police because i am on tact. and get between 15-20 arrests a period. its funny because a lot of times the people i arrest walk to lock- up with a smile on their face. there is no need to make this job personal i treat everyone with respect unless they cross the line which very few do. there is no need to mother f#@% your arrestee. some of these coppers and even on my own team once they make an arrest they think they are johnny bad a%% and they want to talk to their head like he/she is a piece of shit. let me ask what do you get out of that? as long as me and my partner are going home thats all that matters.once in awhile my partner and i get worked up and start arguing with a prisoner while we are transporting them to the station and we normally stop half way there and ask ourselves ....why are we arguing with this person? there is no point ? and that is the extent of it. its a job 8 hrs? these gurus who are tackleberries carrying their guns around to a ballgame or even to mow their lawn.... who sit at a bar and talk about all there arrests. dude thats pathetic. its like a accountant or trader sitting around and telling all his buddies how bad azz he is and how many numbers he crunched. listen nobody cares about your stories. unless its a funny story something very comical and unique i do not talk about my arrests to anybody. whats the point self gratification? lets be realistic who wants to hear that? its like a basketball player that had a good game and he goes around telling everyone how many points he scored. how many times have you been on an arrest and someone comes up to you while your trying to do your paper work and ask "what you got man"? i always say treason or bigamy. get the fu%# out of my face let me do my paperwork so i dont have to sit in the station any longer than i have to and if you really wanna know so bad what i got go to your car and E>D> me on the pdt. i have worked with people who have had many cr's and working with them for ten minutes i see the reason why. just got we are the police doesnt mean we are better than people and can talk to people the way we want. yes some deserve to be treated like shit and belittled but those are far and few between. many coppers get into the mode of talking to everyone like a piece of shit. listen as far as im concerned we are little pawns for the city. we make shit money. and there is no need to make this job personal or make it our lives. so do yourself and everyone else a favor. quit bitching and look in the mirror and ask yourself how you could make this job better for you and your family. fu#@ the city fu$@ the bosses. how can you make your life easier. as long as the pay check is there the 1st and the 16th thats all that should really matter the shit in between should be gravy. why get grey hairs mother-fu#$in evryone. smile and kill em with kindness. believe me people think you are nuts when you are always smiling and that nothing bothers you. but are you nuts? or are you really the genius?

10/04/2006 06:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WHY ISN'T THE FOP FIGHTING THIS??

10/04/2006 06:26:00 PM  
Anonymous forensics question said...

Using the DNA helix, are smegma, cerumen, phlegm, vomitus and sebum as uniquely identifiable to an individual as blood, urine, semen and feces?

10/04/2006 06:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The State Police in illinois get 80% @ 25 years plus all medical paid after retirement but then again they are not represented by FOP (Friends Of Phil) What do they do beside draw huge salaries?

10/04/2006 07:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 6 year wonder. You realize that this is a serious job you took. I'm glad I'm not your partner. IF your only working for the 1st and 16th then maybe you should have been an accountant. When the gunfire starts I'm sure we will find you running the other way. And as for the coppers wearing their guns everywhere, maybe its because they take their oath seriously and you shouldn't make look down upon them for that. I wear my gun everywhere too simply because you never know when you will need it. Shit can break out anywhere and at any time. Being the police you should realize this. I'm not saying that i'm going to be jumping out of my car waiving my gun around at a jaywalker but sometimes shit finds you. I was at an ATM machine in my neighborhood(016) and some dude walked up from behind me and started to ask me for money. He started saying the types of things that I have written on a GOCR before. I drew my coat back and showed him my badge and gun. And that ended that discussion.

10/04/2006 03:59:33 PM

and you let him move on to the next victim because all you could do is show your gun and badge, maybe someday you'll learn how to use them

10/04/2006 07:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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10/3/06 update:

We didn't get the decision we wanted out of our administrative hearing so we're going to Federal District Court Wednesday morning asking for an injunction against the City to stop them from enforcing the march route they offered. We feel strongly that it does not comply with the City's own ordinance (because it does not afford us ample avenue of expression) and it is impracticable because we are ordered to stop at Federal Plaza two hours before our permit begins, in the middle of an arts & crafts fair. We are committed to achieving a workable compromise, as we did with the City's own representatives before Friday's hearing, until it was nixed by a call “downtown.”

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10/04/2006 07:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10/03/2006 11:57:46 PM

You are a total dipshit. One team (can you count that high?) in SOS has been accused of wrongdoing. Nice, paint the whole unit with the same brush.

As for the initial rumor which is responsible for this thread...I don't who is more goofy, the bozo that came up with the rumor or the rest of the bozos that have bought into it. Man you guys are easy.

10/04/2006 08:12:00 PM  
Blogger Murphy40pct said...

10:56-Ease off on the self righteous bullshit. Wow, you don't have to yell at everyone. Good for you. The fact that your still impressed with that small talent shows your maturity. Wow, you're on tact. Wow, you don't tell your fellow officers what kind of pinch you made because you're too cool for that. You don't carry your gun off-duty because you don't take the job home with you. That means that if you're in the position to help out a fellow officer or citizen when off-duty you will be unable. Good for you. Way to show us. When you find the ability to show the same respect to your fellow officers as you do to the people you arrest, maybe you'll have grown up. Since you admit you're here for a paycheck then claim to be the real police you can understand how hard it is to take you seriously. The reason you don't have any CRs is pretty clear to me-you're a lazy, selfish, self righteous coward (yes, even possible on tact.....WOW tact...) who wouldn't be there when needed. I generally save my best insults for Lefty, but I think I'd take him at a 10-1 over your sorry ass "officer."

10/04/2006 08:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Where the @#$% are the results for the Sergeant's test???

10/04/2006 08:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FRATERNAL ORDER OF POLICE

Client Summary, 2005
A special interest’s lobbying activity may go up or down over time, depending on how much attention the federal government is giving their issues. Particularly active clients often retain multiple lobbying firms, each with a team of lobbyists, to press their case for them.


Year: 2005

Total Lobbying Expenditures: $520,000
Subtotal for Subsidiary National Fraternal Order of Police: $420,000
Subtotal for Subsidiary FOP Natl Labor Council 2: $100,000

Industry
Total

Public Sector Unions
$520,000




Lobbying Expenses Reported by Subsidiaries Firms Hired
Contract Income
Subsidiary (Lobbied For)

National Fraternal Order of Police
$420,000
National Fraternal Order of Police

Public Affairs Management
$100,000
FOP Natl Labor Council 2


Fraternal Order of Police does not include its subsidiaries' expenses in its self-filed report, so all expenditures are summed for Total Lobbying Expenditures


Center for Responsive Politics

10/04/2006 08:59:00 PM  
Blogger ispeeved said...

SCC...Just a little note to our friends in CPD that we're still trying to kick this Gov's ass!!


Union leader's letter rejected in police suit

By Susan Kuczka
Tribune staff reporter

October 4, 2006

A Lake County judge ruled Tuesday that commanding officers from the Illinois State Police may not use a union official's letter in pursuing their claim that their vacation benefits were cut because they did not endorse Gov. Rod Blagojevich in the last election.

Circuit Judge David M. Hall issued the ruling after an hourlong hearing on the contents of the June letter written by L.H. "Buddy" Parker, president of State Troopers Lodge No. 41, which represents an estimated 1,500 unionized police personnel.

In the letter, Parker bragged that the union's decision to endorse Blagojevich in the 2002 election led to a lucrative contract for rank-and-file union workers along with unprecedented access to the governor's staff.

Stanley Jakala, the attorney representing about 400 state police command officers, said the letter was proof that a "quid pro quo," an exchange, existed in the governor's office that led to a satisfactory union contract at the same time management personnel had vacation benefits cut.

Although Hall said he could sympathize with the command officers, he ruled that the letter could not be submitted as evidence in the State Police Command Officers Association's lawsuit that seeks to have vacation benefits restored. He ruled that the letter would not be relevant to the non-union command staff.

Prior to Blagojevich's election, command officers could accumulate up to 75 unused vacation days and trade them in for cash.

Kerry Peck, a special counsel for the governor's office, said Blagojevich barred the practice after he took office to help reduce the state's estimated $5 billion deficit.

10/04/2006 09:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well it's about time the CPD put it's foot in some of your law-breaking asses...slapping people around, using vulgarity, kicking in doors....it's all coming to an end and you'll have to abide by the rules...GLAD TO SEE IT !! Newbies and Rookies your days are numbered !!

10/04/2006 09:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6:28 PM

With the exception of cerumen (earwax), all of the bodily fluids and solids named can be identified to an individual to a degree of astronomical certainty.

Even in identical twins, cerumen may vary in DNA markers.

10/04/2006 09:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
OFF TOPIC!
But I just got word that a PPO from 018(?) hung himself. Anybody know about this?

10/04/2006 05:08:36 PM

Hey moron, keep this off the site!

10/04/2006 09:17:00 PM  
Blogger ispeeved said...

7:01 Correction. We get 80% after 26 years 8 months. Also we do a lot in 102 counties from South Beloit to Cairo, Quad Cities to Champaign. We work alone, got shit for equipment, spineless boss's who only care about their next promotion, and have turf wars with every county sheriff in the state. We usually dont come across the daily grind as you guys do, but we are still proud of the police work we do. Besides. Our boss is Governor Blago who only cares about his next press conference and what else he can do to suck up to the liberal fochies at the expense of law enforcement. Thanks for the time.

10/04/2006 09:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey six year wonder. Shut the fuck up. Learn the job and then tell us all how great you are.

10/04/2006 09:28:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10/04/2006 10:56:50 AM

You are wise beyond your years! I'm going on 18 years and I agree with every word you've posted! But especially the part about still being an effective police officer without getting a buttload of CR's and treating everyone like shit. There are some real insecure people that get hired on this job. They have to talk down to others and bitch slap handcuffed people to amuse themselves. Beyond pathetic.

I love seeing guys throw around the "N word" on street stops or arrest scenes and then a few weeks later they're crying about a beef...doesn't take a rocket sceintist to see what the problem is. Disrespect people and you reap what you sow.

Stay safe! Work smart!

10/04/2006 09:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey guy with 6 years....I agree with some of what you said. You don't have to motherfuck everyone you lock up and you don't and shouldn't treat people like shit. But the rest....get rid of the condescending attitude and maybe some of your post would have sunk into someone’s head. Instead you come off as an arrogant little do nothing prick. Sorry to tell you, 15 arrest a period if low activity. Not sure where you work, but it has to be north. 2nd, if a copper asks you what you have and you're too embarrassed to tell them, stop with the fucking DPW's. If it is a good pinch, you may be ale to teach the other coppers something about how you found it, got the admission, etc. I find that good police work is contagious. You bring in that UUW pinch and people see that, it makes them stop a few extra cars looking for their own. Realize that, whether you agree with it or not. As far as CR#s, when I was new, I was locking up a few people a day and was getting a boatload of CR's. I didn't think I had changed the way I do police work, but I rarely get them now. I assume it comes with experience. The animals we lock up every day can smell it like they can pussy. They know what buttons to push on which people. They may be lazy good for nothing bastards, but they aren't all stupid. They are a different kind of smart. Like I said, I agree with some of what you had to say, but the rest is bullshit. You cannot treat everyone like a shithead. I've locked up several people for 5/9-1 and only a few were stone cold jag offs but the others went along. I've also broken bones and ripped apart tendons fighting with jag offs over dope. Every person is different and it takes a good PERSON to know the difference. If you have good judgment you will make the right decision 99% of the time. And by the way, your arrestees are smiling because you pinched them for DPW and you missed the gun they had hidden in the bushes and the dope in their sock. They are smiling going, "We love these new pussy coppers. They just have no balls.....

10/04/2006 11:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

.... who sit at a bar and talk about all there arrests. dude thats pathetic. its like a accountant or trader sitting around and telling all his buddies how bad azz he is and how many numbers he crunched. listen nobody cares about your stories.

ARE YOU TALKIN ABOUT THE STOOGE FROM TRU?

10/04/2006 11:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Correct me if I am wrong....but doesn't ISP also pay into the pension 5% more than we do thus earning that retirement early.....not too many CPD coppers would be happy about that considering the mortgage payments they need to make for their overpriced city houses....they couldnt afford too.....

10/04/2006 11:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There are some real insecure people that get hired on this job. They have to talk down to others.
calling people out in the female gender

10/04/2006 11:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

With the exception of cerumen (earwax), all of the bodily fluids and solids named can be identified to an individual to a degree of astronomical certainty.

Even in identical twins, cerumen may vary in DNA markers.

10/04/2006 09:13:43 PM


So DNA is in everything except cerumen. But identical twins HAVE DNA in their cerumen?

10/04/2006 11:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i am 10:56...... I HAVE BEEN GONE ALL DAY RUNNING ERRANDS BUT I WILL HAVE TO SAY THIS......THAT I WAS EAGER TO SEE WHAT KIND OF RESPONSE I GOT FROM MY POST. I NORMALLY DO NOT WRITE ON THIS BLOG RATHER REALLY ENJOY READING IT BUT FOR SOME REASON I DID A LITTLE VENTING ... AND JUST AS I SUSPECTED I GOT RESPONSES THAT TOTALLY AGREED WITH WHAT I HAD TO SAY AND OTHERS THAT THOUGHT I WAS FULL OF MYSELF/OR FULL OF SH%$. I WANT TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT I WASNT TRYING TO BE ARROGANT IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM. JUST TRYING TO MAKE A POINT. BUT MY LITTLE TIME THAT I DO HAVE I WOULD HAVE TO SAY THAT I HAVE CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT YOU CANNOT TELL A COP ANYTHING. THEY ALL KNOW EVERYTHING AND THEIR WAY IS THE RIGHT WAY. BOTTOM LINE IS THAT I DO WHAT WORKS FOR ME. MY METHOD MAY NOT WORK FOR YOU AND YOUR METHOD MAY NOT WORK FOR ME. AS FAR AS THE COPPER THAT SAYS I WOULD RUN THE OTHER WAY AT A GUN FIGHT , I AM SORRY YOU FEEL THAT WAY BUT I DO NOT CARE TO BASH ANYONE BECAUSE THOSE ARE NOT MY INTENTIONS. I MADE MY POINT ON THE CR'S AND THATS ALL I HAVE TO SAY. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO AGREED WITH MY POST I AM GLAD THAT I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE THAT SEES THINGS
IN THAT MANNER. LIKE THEY SAY WE ARE ALL BLUE.

10/05/2006 12:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

02:32
Problem #4 comes to mind.

10/05/2006 03:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here I am five o'clock in the morning, full of dewars white label. Thirty years on the job and I don't think I have thirty cr#'s. If you have enough numbers that you are worried about being dumped from your spot, your doing something wrong.

10/05/2006 05:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This just in ... Female Copper Always Working appears nuts. That is all.

10/05/2006 05:37:00 AM  
Anonymous The View said...

Sorry to disappoint some of the posters here, but the "20 CR's in 5 years" syndrome is REAL. Officers are being called in, and counseling forms are being drawn up. Officers are being dropped into the personnel concerns program. I hear it's not pretty. As expected, some of our better brethren on the streets are taking the brunt of this. Some are voluntarily asking to be relieved of tactical assignments. Can't much blame them for that! The number one rule of a fight is to protect yourself at all times....
I have to accept some of what the 6 year wonder who previously posted here as truth. You can work tact and, TO SOME DEGREE, avoid some CR's. MFing people all the time, along with use of racially inflammatory name calling will result in beefs. Avoid it.
I know numerous officers who will not work with guys who apparently have racial issues which some continue to "work out" on the local citizenry. I can't say I blame them for refusing to work with those idiots, who make this job much harder for the rest of us.
As far as 6 yr. wonder not packing off duty, refusing to tell his co-workers what he's working on while down in the station on arrests, to each his own. My opinion, the guy's strange with regards to not wanting to discuss with co-workers what current assignment he's working on in the station. As far as not wanting to carry off duty, that's a personal preference. I have rarely left my home without some sort of firearm carried close.
Off-duty, I am far less concerned with protecting the citizens, and totally concerned with protecting ME and MINE. And if the 6 year wonder really feels he makes "shit money," then I would say by all means seek out other employment.
I've been on this job for 20+ years now, and I can honestly say I earn more than 95% of my friends in the "private" sector, so I'm not complaining. Yes, I do work some side jobs occasionally, but my kids go to private schools, and I don't owe anybody a dime to keep them there. My car isn't new, and it isn't an SUV, but it does the job, and it's PAID FOR. I only wish I could appear in court more and get paid for it, but it doesn't look good for a Sgt. to make too many trips to 26th st.
Sometimes I do get those subpoenas, and I appreciate them when they arrive. Every little bit $$ helps! Stay safe, all, and remember, your main duty is to provide for your family.

10/05/2006 05:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't think I know any P/O's with many SUSTAINED CR's. If you're afraid of getting booted from Tact/Gangs, learn to write a good TO/FROM.

10/05/2006 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Sgt. DUNKIN DONUT said...

Just a note and a word of wisdom to all in blue about carrying off duty. I didn't carry off-duty and walked into a Dunkin donut shop only to have an armed offender try to hold up the place. Thank the Gaelic Gods everything turned out okay. All my buddies chipped in for a snub revolver for me which I carry everywhere. I would end this by saying take this advice or leave it, but take it. It could save your life.

10/05/2006 01:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why are coppers on here bragging about how many CR's they have had and how many sustained etc???? KEEP YOUR PIE HOLES SHUT.... WTF??? NEWSFLASH....not everyone on here is a cop. No wonder why EVERYTHING is getting looked in to!! Go eat some STFU!

10/05/2006 02:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 10:56, I never got a CR# for any of my DOPW arrests either, as far as other arrests, that's a different story. Any defense attorney on a good arrest will have a sh@thead file one for some trumped up reason just for leverage in his trial/ prelim, so talk to me when you actually have to call an ASA with one of your 15-20 arrests you make.

10/05/2006 02:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The six year wonder's post should be read by all of the bosses so that they know that the bullshit they are feeding in the Academy is working!! What a total goof, on every level!!

10/05/2006 03:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 03:31, FYI, some of us "chicks" on the front desk are their on BIDs, surprise, we did our 20+ on the street, have worked tact and units, been FTOs, etc. Furthermore, we don't necessarily care for the clout babies that they put with us, since alot of the time they don't even know what kind of report the customer (aka citizen) needs. I have gotten just as many CRs on the desk as I did on the street. The customers just don't like to hear the truth, so they beef. Now, be a MAN and apologize to us legit desk personnel!

10/05/2006 03:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just heard last night that a Tac Team some where is going down along the same route as SOS....
Same MO "home invasions, ripping off $$$$....etc....)

10/05/2006 08:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10/04/2006 10:56:50 AM
Best post on this blog EVER!! Well put. Go to work and do your job the right way. Every copper I know that has loads of CR #'s, are the biggest bunch of jagoffs on the job.. These clowns got beat up and made fun of when the were kids now the have a star and a gun, now they act like a big tough guy. I Have 8 years on the job have work tact/Gang now work in a unit (All on the west and southside) I have 6 CR #'s. The problem with this job is Coppers wont look another copper in the face and tell him that he is acting like a jagoff. I've done it and let me tell you people looked at me crossed eyed after I did it.

10/05/2006 11:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10/04/2006 08:27:37 PM
BACK SIR!!

10/05/2006 11:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i am the 6 year wonder and i didnt want it to get to this and brag about myself but you pieces of sh#$ make stuff personal....where do i begin. first and foremost i have zero not one not two or three zero drinking arrest or pissing arrests. I have numerous dc's under my belt as well as other awards but who gives a sht about that! thats not my point. if you read my original post i said i do not like to talk about my arrests unless it is something comical or unique. at the same time i do not wish to hear your war stories either. or how bad azz of a copper you are. and as for the guy who says that he makes more than 95% of his friends.....wow. who are you hanging out with? i know first hand that i make less than most of my friends. like i said before i am carefree when i have to turn into a lion i will but in the mean time im a teddy bear im not gonna let a bunch of coppers on this blog make me feel bad by any means i do not wish that upon anyone. so im not gonna turn this into a pissing contest but i will say this. i do what works best for me cuz when its all said and done not one motha fuc#$& is gonna pay my bills or put food on my family's table or put a roof under their head and thats all that matters. im gonna do my job to make my money on the 1st and the 16th and i do not need to put people down to make myself feel any better. so for all you coppers who have cr's and are proud of them that just shows your ignorance. and if any of you pieces of sht want to compare numbers id be more than willing to let my numbers do the talking. and by the way i have 000000000000000000000 crs. HATERS!
BETCHA CANT DO IT LIKE ME! HUH!

10/06/2006 01:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Working Tac Units just don't seem to be worth it.
Want to make a difference, If you are in a Tac Unit put in for a return to uniform. They are being mis-used anyway. It doesn't seem worth it.

10/06/2006 05:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The bottom line is there are ways to avoid C.R.'s even when doing good work. It's the way you conduct yourself and if a potential for a beef arises, you attempt to quell it right then and there. Sometimes they are unavoidable. Yes, if you are really hitting the streets and making arrests, people will beef no matter what; however; if you rightfully conduct yourself within the parameters of the law and know how to cover yourself on paper by rightfully and legally explaining your actions in accordance to BOTH the Law and our department general orders, you'll be fine. Just remember C.Y.A. If someone has serioussly sustained beefs over and over again in a systematic manner, something is wrong. It definately needs to be addressed so that he can save his skin. Complaints will always come but you also have to look at the type of complaint. Is it because of a Brutality beef, money beef, City Sticker beef, inattention to duty etc...??? The magnitude and severity of the SUSTAINED beefs have to also be weighed. There are alot of factors when considering how many C.R.'s the Police get. I just don't like it when I hear P.O.'s bragging out their C.R. numbers. Now that is just outright stupidity.

10/06/2006 06:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First of all it's not bragging, it is what it is. You do thiS job like it's supposed to be done and you get CR's. PERIOD.
You start targeting players in your District and don't let up THEY WILL AND DO BEEF. IT SEEMS LIKE ALL OF YOU WHO ARE THINK THIS IS BRAGGIN ARE NOT ON THE SAME PAGE AS THOSE OF US WHO HAVE SOME TIME ON. I HAVE OVER 50 CR'S AND NOT ONE SUSTAINED BECAUSE THEY WERE BULLSHIT BEEFS COMING FROM GANGBANGERS WHO DIDN'T LIKE ME LOCKING THEM UP EVERY FUCKING DAY!!! THEY GET COACHED AND THINK THIS WILL STOP OUR ACTIONS BUT IT DOES NOT. I DO BELIEVE THAT SINCE THE AFFIDAVIT HAS BEEN ENACTED CR'S WILL GO DOWN, BUT IF YOU ARE A WORKER AND LIKE TO LOCK UP BAD GUYS THEN YOU WILL/ARE GOING TO GET CR'S, IT'S JUST THAT SIMPLE. I KNOW OF SOME TACT GUYS WHO GET VERY LITTLE CR'S AND THEY ARE THE ONES WHO PALY THE RADIO AND BRING IN FELONY SHOPLIFETERS, DRINKERS, BULLSHIT TRAFFIC, MOB ACTION. THE TACT GUYS WHO ARE DOING SEARCH WARRANTS, DOPE SURVIELLANCE, FLIPPING GANG BANGERS THEY CATCH DIRTY ARE THE ONES GETTING CR'S. THEY ARE DOING THE JOB THE WAY ITS SUPPOSED TO BE DONE. THIS IS A VERY DIRTY LINE OF WORK THAT CAN'T BE DONE W/ WHITE GLOVES. SHOW ME A TACT/GANG COPPER W/O CR'S AND YOU ARE SHOWING ME A FELONY SHOPLIFTER CAR, DRINKER CAR AND RADIO CALL CHASER. PERIOD. I BET WHEN SOME LADY GETS DRAGGED INTO THE ALLEY BE SOME SAVAGE SHE CAN FEEL REAL SAFE KNOWING YOUR OUT THERE NOT GETTING CR'S.

10/06/2006 09:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Hey 10:56, I never got a CR# for any of my DOPW arrests either, as far as other arrests, that's a different story. Any defense attorney on a good arrest will have a sh@thead file one for some trumped up reason just for leverage in his trial/ prelim, so talk to me when you actually have to call an ASA with one of your 15-20 arrests you make."


Went to a few PC hearings that all the defense would ask me was when and where I beat his client. By the way, I get CR's. None have been sustained.

10/06/2006 12:41:00 PM  
Anonymous 24TH DISTRICT COP said...

This CR debate is really about the departments "HANDLING" of CR complaints. Those cops that have 20 plus CR's have also had those CR's NOT SUSTAINED, EXONERATED OR UNFOUNDED. THAT MEANS NOT GUILTY AT THE VERY LEAST. BUT THOSE COPS ARE BEING JUDGED BY THE DEPARTMENT AS GUILTY. WTF????? Also, why do you think the CR complaints have been adjusted in the last year or so by having the complaintants fill out an affidavit along with their complaints toward police? BECAUSE SOMEONE WITH A LITTLE MORE BRAINS KNOW THAT A LOT OF THE BEEFS WERE BS AND REVENGEFUL ON COPS WHO WERE REALLY DOING THEIR JOB ON THE STREET. BUT WHAT DO I KNOW???? I JUST DO MY JOB. OH YEA, AND WHAT ABOUT THE LAZY SLUG I USED TO WORK WITH???? THAT PERSON IS A DETECTIVE GETTING HIGHER PAY THEN ME OR THE REST OF THE HARD WORKING COPS ON THE TEAM. NO, I AM NOT JEALOUS OR STUPID. IT'S JUST THE WAY THINGS ARE NOW. IT PAYS TO BE A SLUGGO ON THIS JOB, LIKE IT OR NOT. AND THATS THE FACT, JACK. HOORAH.

10/06/2006 02:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey 1:52 You are a goof!! and probably a pussy too....I bet whan shit hits the fan...you run and tell your Sgt or W/C what happened so you "Don't get a CR#" "Boss...I didn't do anything it was officer_______." You pussy ass and the "I'm a teddy bear" line is really gay!!! You are probably a fucking fruit wearing women's panties!!! bacause they make you feel like a "Man"??? Get another line of work dickhead.The only "Lion" that you see is the one attached to your boyfriend's cock while you're blowing him...fruit

10/06/2006 04:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to mr donut, 10/04/2006 05:19:14pm....re cw1 dispatcher behavior on air......fyi , you have cr#s.........oemc has ci#s....have a problem with your dispatcher? tell your sgt to get # on her ass......every bushel of apples has a few rotten ones,and we have our share in the room! We (the experienced & competent ones) are thoroughly disgusted with the crap that some get away with.....should be booted out the door. If only more or you would tell your sgt, lt, etc. to call our bosses and make your complaints known , then our mgt can start taking disciplinary actions on these ass*&#@s.

Be safe out there.

10/06/2006 11:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to 10/04/2006 05:19:14 pm

fyi, you can get ci# (same as cr#)
on a dispacther in a case like you mentioned from CW1. That's how she probably got dumped from other zone or CW. We have our share of dumb asses in the room.
More of you should complain...to get rid of these fools!

10/07/2006 12:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was fooled into believing that working in a fast district would not only benefit you as a P.O. but that it would help you later in your career. Worked my ass off for a long time, took advise from guys with time on the job (oldtimers and some not oldtimers), never spoke bad about other officers nor was I ever jealous either. I watched, learned then tried to become the best cop I could not only for myself but for other cops respect cause no one likes a dog. Now here comes the time when all that work, in the trenches and shit, is coming to slap me in the face cause I have more than 20 CR#'s. I never locked up a person that did'nt need to get locked up and I'll tell you this......if you do work you are gonna get numbers....I accepted this and dealt with it for a long time. Now I have to face the music cause some pieces of shit put #'s on me for doing my job and getting the bad guy. I wanna scream everytime I read someones comments about not ever getting a # and I've worked in the shit for years blah blah blah blah.......you are full of shit! People who work get numbers plain and simple cause thats just how it is! Anyone can put a # on you for ANYTHING! Now add the fact that u are arresting people that really are'nt the greatest citizens in the world and whatta get????????? The only way they know how to hurt you on this job is to either sue you or put a # on you. The hardest things for a working cop to do is stop working and watch other people pass u by shooting up those ranks or units. Like I've said before I've never been jealous but it sure stings and this stuff about the CR crap stings too. There are some idiots out there who are tact/gang and they will always be morons so I would hope that all tact/gang dont get lumped into that catagory. It sucks that it took almost 10years to realize that I shoulda just worked on a beat car in 18 or where ever it was slow. I love being the police but man, times are gonna be really hard and trying on those who like to work cause once again we're getting stuck up the you know again. Sorry for the rant but wanted to say my peace. Be safe everyone and always back each other up.
fromagoodhardworkingPOjustlikeyou

10/08/2006 11:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

listen mr. i have 6 years on the job, and i work on tac and i get 15-20 arrests a period and have no cr's. u dont have any cr's cause u work in a pussy ass district and arrest people 4 bullshit. try workin on a tac team in a real district for 6 years and then tell me u have no cr's.

10/13/2006 12:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wow we need to stand up to the machine and shut it down... BACK IT DOWN

10/13/2006 06:56:00 PM  

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